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05-01-2023 , 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by wereallgonnamakeit


April Results, decent month, but need to focus a bit more and put in volume. Playing 200b on ACR now

Nice month!

How's 200b game? Isn't it really tough? Wonder what kinda winrate is possible there.
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05-01-2023 , 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Tamsa
Nice month!

How's 200b game? Isn't it really tough? Wonder what kinda winrate is possible there.

I actually think it’s quite soft past the hours of 6-7 EST. That being said my winrate over 10k hands is ~0bb/100 AIEV, but I’ve played most hours without pool selecting due to laziness and lack of time (Exams). In Costa Rica I’ll probably hop on Ignition for evening hours and see if I can play another site during earlier hours, maybe GG or Stars
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05-05-2023 , 01:17 PM
Results at 200b on ACR...



Really having a tough time at these games and my roll has dropped to ~32k. I think I can beat the games but it's a tiring grind and I'm not mashing rakeback so I'm going to stop playing on ACR, and move back to GG. Once I'm in Costa Rica I'll be able to play Ignition and hopefully will mash those games. Been feeling **** lately as well bc it's exam week and I'm stuck in my room studying or grinding poker, and not even winning.



On the bright side, really enjoy this guys content as of late ^
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05-05-2023 , 01:31 PM
I lurk this thread from the beginning and what's noticeable for me is that you keep switching sites over and over. If I can give you my humble opinion and advice: Make a plan to play 1 site or multiple site (if not enough traffic) and stick to that for a while (build some sample etc.). Now you are constantly having to get used to different meta and pool tendencies etc. Having some sample and being able to exploit pool/individuals will give your overall win rate a great boost.

I'm not saying stick to acr 200b btw, from my own experience 200blitz is a waste of time if we compare it to other options.

Gl mate! And keep us updated about Costa Rica, I'm planning on visiting it aswell!
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05-05-2023 , 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by KidCudi147
I lurk this thread from the beginning and what's noticeable for me is that you keep switching sites over and over. If I can give you my humble opinion and advice: Make a plan to play 1 site or multiple site (if not enough traffic) and stick to that for a while (build some sample etc.). Now you are constantly having to get used to different meta and pool tendencies etc. Having some sample and being able to exploit pool/individuals will give your overall win rate a great boost.

I'm not saying stick to acr 200b btw, from my own experience 200blitz is a waste of time if we compare it to other options.

Gl mate! And keep us updated about Costa Rica, I'm planning on visiting it aswell!
You are 100% right I need to just set a plan and stick with it bc the short term variance convinces me either way. I was comfortable playing GG and I had 80k hands there so I will just play there and there is a lot of volume there anyway.

TY, very helpful, and I can't wait to post CR stuff
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05-08-2023 , 03:46 AM
hah OP took the advice to not constantly switch sites and picked a new site to switch to~
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05-22-2023 , 06:03 PM
May Results so far are pretty lack luster



Lost a bunch at 200b and been winning a bit on GG, but feeling confident about my game.

Bright side is I have landed in beautiful Costa Rica!

My set up with a great view of uptown



Some local eats!






Really excited to take poker and life seriously, going to be doing a consistent work out plan again, meditating, reading, learning, and aiming to play ~40-45 hours of poker a week. I'm going to continue playing on GG for the main volume but scope out other sites.

Unfortunately, my plan is to grind for the first couple weeks I'm here to establish the lifestyle I want, but soon I will try to travel and explore the city more and definitely update the thread!
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05-22-2023 , 08:38 PM
Nice pics man, hope you enjoy Costa Rica and excited to read more about it
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05-27-2023 , 08:16 PM
Quick note - A few people have messaged me recently asking if I still coach, I have this tag remaining from a while back I don't coach anymore, sorry , it was only for fun anyway

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Originally Posted by KidCudi147
Nice pics man, hope you enjoy Costa Rica and excited to read more about it
Thanks man, I'm really enjoying it.







Beautiful country, great food, fun nightlife, it's just tough to stay focused on poker

May so far -



and Year so far



As you can see, I really haven't won anything in the past 100k hands. Of course, GG is structured in a way that this "breakeven" stretch is really ~2.5bb/100 after rakeback, but it's definitely a confidence killer compared to what I was winning previously. I realize that although I have a decent winrate in these games, there's a lot more I can do to surpass the guys I play against and start moving up the stakes again.

I've explored CR a bunch, but for the next couple weeks I need to bunker down and immerse myself in poker and studying to achieve what I want to achieve.

Bankroll ~26k btw after setting aside money for food/rent etc. playing on WPTglobal a bit as well + a local cGG app

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06-03-2023 , 02:04 PM


Interesting post from stefan I saw in a Uri video, wondering if anyone has thoughts? I'm planning on moving back up to 500nl on GG in the near future and kind of wonder if "battling" 200z/200nl on Stars would be helpful, for many of the reasons he mentioned.
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06-03-2023 , 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by wereallgonnamakeit


Interesting post from stefan I saw in a Uri video, wondering if anyone has thoughts? I'm planning on moving back up to 500nl on GG in the near future and kind of wonder if "battling" 200z/200nl on Stars would be helpful, for many of the reasons he mentioned.
As someone who's started playing 200z, most of the regs are playing nowhere near GTO and very exploitable all over the place, despite the games reputation of being tough. I'd be surprised if 500nl GG regs are worse so would advise just playing there if you have the bankroll.
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06-04-2023 , 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Fishreg1
As someone who's started playing 200z, most of the regs are playing nowhere near GTO and very exploitable all over the place, despite the games reputation of being tough. I'd be surprised if 500nl GG regs are worse so would advise just playing there if you have the bankroll.
makes sense man, reg on 500nl GG range from shockingly bad to really good who mix 500/1k, so it's an interesting pool. I do feel my game lacks creativity at times though and I'm not sure what the solution is to fixing that, ideally I would play some 500z on Stars if it ran
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06-04-2023 , 05:52 PM
1) Stick to the same site whilst building up your roll, players pools are significantly different across sites and if you constantly jump between sites it is going to hurt your win rate.

2) In the small amount of hands I have seen you play , some of the play is somewhat questionable, I would suggest moving down and focusing on volume,

3) Your lack of volume is quite concerning when you’re a pro.

4) Acr 200z is probably too tough for you to beat at the moment.

Last month I grinded 200z on acr and also mix in a bunch of high stakes on acr and the 200z pool I think I was winning at 2bb/100 until the last 3k hands or so until sun run was activated and it was the hardest grind I think I have had to endure in a long time.

If you’re not grinding 200z on acr for rakeback I would highly recommend figuring out how to put in more volume until you can move up again.

My results for last month(not a sick brag) just being real with an opinion that isn’t some random on a forum giving out advice that isn’t in any of the pools.



Also in regards to Stefan’s comment, he is referring to table starting and battling it out holding the lobbies. You could take his advice is a somewhat different way, you could implement his strategy by sticking to one pool and becoming the best player in that pool. Otherwise you’re just going to be eaten up by rake essentially and that’s what I think I am seeing in your graphs.

In summary, Smash out your volume on one site, play lower and figure out population tendencies. Get on bovada and earn $. Play 50z on acr until you get very good at learning above population tendencies and focus on volume volume volume.

Good luck sir!
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06-04-2023 , 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Koshko
1) Stick to the same site whilst building up your roll, players pools are significantly different across sites and if you constantly jump between sites it is going to hurt your win rate.

2) In the small amount of hands I have seen you play , some of the play is somewhat questionable, I would suggest moving down and focusing on volume,

3) Your lack of volume is quite concerning when you’re a pro.

4) Acr 200z is probably too tough for you to beat at the moment.

Last month I grinded 200z on acr and also mix in a bunch of high stakes on acr and the 200z pool I think I was winning at 2bb/100 until the last 3k hands or so until sun run was activated and it was the hardest grind I think I have had to endure in a long time.

If you’re not grinding 200z on acr for rakeback I would highly recommend figuring out how to put in more volume until you can move up again.

My results for last month(not a sick brag) just being real with an opinion that isn’t some random on a forum giving out advice that isn’t in any of the pools.



Also in regards to Stefan’s comment, he is referring to table starting and battling it out holding the lobbies. You could take his advice is a somewhat different way, you could implement his strategy by sticking to one pool and becoming the best player in that pool. Otherwise you’re just going to be eaten up by rake essentially and that’s what I think I am seeing in your graphs.

In summary, Smash out your volume on one site, play lower and figure out population tendencies. Get on bovada and earn $. Play 50z on acr until you get very good at learning above population tendencies and focus on volume volume volume.

Good luck sir!
Thanks for the advice, I'm definitely sticking to GG atm.

These are my results on GG at 200/500nl, and I additionally get 2-3bb/100 in rakeback



I post some of the more questionable hands because I want feedback, but in reality I am still crushing 200 and able to move up to 500 (although I don't think I am a top reg there), so moving down would make zero sense.

I definitely need to put in more volume though, I appreciate the feedback and I am looking into getting some private coaching in the near future

(these results dont include fast fold formats in which I am breaking even in)
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06-04-2023 , 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by wereallgonnamakeit
Thanks for the advice, I'm definitely sticking to GG atm.

These are my results on GG at 200/500nl, and I additionally get 2-3bb/100 in rakeback



I post some of the more questionable hands because I want feedback, but in reality I am still crushing 200 and able to move up to 500 (although I don't think I am a top reg there), so moving down would make zero sense.

I definitely need to put in more volume though, I appreciate the feedback and I am looking into getting some private coaching in the near future

(these results dont include fast fold formats in which I am breaking even in)
Oh okay makes sense. I would recommend Donk Orlene as a coach. He’s quite cheap and in my opinion should be charging double. (Not a plug, just someone I would recommend )
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06-04-2023 , 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by wereallgonnamakeit
Results at 200b on ACR...



Really having a tough time at these games and my roll has dropped to ~32k. I think I can beat the games but it's a tiring grind and I'm not mashing rakeback so I'm going to stop playing on ACR, and move back to GG. Once I'm in Costa Rica I'll be able to play Ignition and hopefully will mash those games. Been feeling **** lately as well bc it's exam week and I'm stuck in my room studying or grinding poker, and not even winning.



On the bright side, really enjoy this guys content as of late ^
ACR is one of the tougher sites. At least compared to sites like ignition or global. Ive done data analysis from 2nl to 50nl and at least preflop players are playing pretty close to GTO
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06-05-2023 , 02:08 AM
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Originally Posted by wereallgonnamakeit
Thanks for the advice, I'm definitely sticking to GG atm.

These are my results on GG at 200/500nl, and I additionally get 2-3bb/100 in rakeback



I post some of the more questionable hands because I want feedback, but in reality I am still crushing 200 and able to move up to 500 (although I don't think I am a top reg there), so moving down would make zero sense.

I definitely need to put in more volume though, I appreciate the feedback and I am looking into getting some private coaching in the near future

(these results dont include fast fold formats in which I am breaking even in)

Very nice results considering high rake environment. I agree moving down would be punting xd
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06-05-2023 , 03:33 AM
How do you receive rb on gg? There’s fishBuffet, daily 100k flipouts, how much more do you get on the side?
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06-05-2023 , 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by KidCudi147
Very nice results considering high rake environment. I agree moving down would be punting xd
tyty

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Originally Posted by dude45
ACR is one of the tougher sites. At least compared to sites like ignition or global. Ive done data analysis from 2nl to 50nl and at least preflop players are playing pretty close to GTO
Yeah that's what I noticed as well, GG the players are much worse, the rake is the problem

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How do you receive rb on gg? There’s fishBuffet, daily 100k flipouts, how much more do you get on the side?
I play ~6 hours a day which typically gets me 50-100$ on the 200nl leaderboard which is an extra 1bb/100, apart from that there's affiliate rakeback, not really sure how much that is but somewhere like 10-15% depending on pvi
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06-05-2023 , 08:43 PM
I also started shotting 500 on GG again, going well atm
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06-06-2023 , 04:29 AM
Cool. So you’re basically earning around 3k per month on leaderboard, and with flip out & fishbuffet included you’re earning about 5-8k rakeback not counting the affiliate piece.

That’s pretty nice, if you beat the games as well, it’s a nice 6figure annual job.

Railing the 500games, I’ve noticed quite a bit of aggression pre and Regs being fairly sticky post as well. Not easy to win. GL!
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06-06-2023 , 05:12 AM
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Originally Posted by unit18
Cool. So you’re basically earning around 3k per month on leaderboard, and with flip out & fishbuffet included you’re earning about 5-8k rakeback not counting the affiliate piece.

That’s pretty nice, if you beat the games as well, it’s a nice 6figure annual job.

Railing the 500games, I’ve noticed quite a bit of aggression pre and Regs being fairly sticky post as well. Not easy to win. GL!
Yep, the rake on GG I don't think is really THAT bad when you factor all the rakeback, maybe 50% worse than other sites haha. As I said booked some private coaching and will be studying a bit, but think I should be at least breaking even prerb at 500 and looking forward to challenging myself.

I've also been playing a bunch of live poker, mainly 2/5 at the local casino, on days I am not playing 6-7 hours online (~2 days a week). The income there is pretty steady so should be able to take some swings regardless.
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06-06-2023 , 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by wereallgonnamakeit
tyty



Yeah that's what I noticed as well, GG the players are much worse, the rake is the problem



I play ~6 hours a day which typically gets me 50-100$ on the 200nl leaderboard which is an extra 1bb/100, apart from that there's affiliate rakeback, not really sure how much that is but somewhere like 10-15% depending on pvi
Is that the standart deal you have, 15% extra ? Seems ridiculously low

Gl ,nice blog

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06-06-2023 , 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by DoyleandIvey
Is that the standart deal you have, 15% extra ? Seems ridiculously low

Gl ,nice blog
at face value its higher, but there is PVI so in total its like 15 I think
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06-06-2023 , 05:24 PM
Yea just looking over it for my own sake, the two higher volume months I had on GG was March and May

March I won at 5.7bb/100 over 42k hands and got ~10% affl rakeback

May I won at 2.6bb/100 over 24k hands and got ~13% affl rakeback
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