Don't think coaching in general is a waste of time/money, but in my case it definitely was and prob many people experienced the same. The skill difference between me and my coach was just too small (if there was a skill difference at all) I was playing mostly 200NL and he was a supposed MSNL crusher but he prolly wasnt, now 1.5 years later he's searching for a stake fwiw. When I get to the point I'm not improving anymore I def would look after an absolute topcoach. (not self proclamed, but a known nosebleed reg)
fwiw I slightly disagree with this: "EDIT I should add to above that every single nosebleed player attributes a ton of their success to the people THEY TALKED POKER WITH. " I think most nosebleed players rank playing and studying the game by yourself higher most of the time.
downswinging atm
-16 BI, - 10 EV BI
Sooo many setups, and people always having the 3-4 combo's they rep over and over again. Only 16 AA in the last 6.3k hands, which also sucks pretty hard vs all these people who don't fold
Preflop: Hero is BTN with A K
UTG raises to $15, MP calls $15, CO folds, Hero raises to $55, 2 folds, UTG raises to $100, MP calls $85, Hero raises to $500 and is all-in, UTG folds, MP calls $400
Flop: ($1,107.50) 6 J T (2 players, 1 is all-in) Turn: ($1,107.50) T (2 players, 1 is all-in) River: ($1,107.50) J (2 players, 1 is all-in)
Spoiler:
Results: $1,107.50 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 6 J T T J
Hero showed A K and won $1,104.70 ($604.70 net)
MP showed 4 7 and lost (-$500 net)
Yea i understand. I only had 2 coaches both only like 2 sessions and same thing. Not nearly a big gap in skill if any.
As for my EDIT, I think thats obv a huge part, maybe the biggest part, but I don't ever seen an interview with someone who doesn't say that it was a big part. Not the most important, but definitely a big part.
I just think discussing poker with competent people who will challenge your through process is just another filter. If you don't have those friends, a coach is the only person who can do that for you. In that matter, do you want to be a poker friend of mine than? :P
^that hand makes 0 sense, would be interested to hear thought process/gameflow/stats on villain, looks as if the only hands you really beat are like AJ/KQ
Villain was 3betting 20%+ BTN vs CO and hardly folding to 4bets. And hardly folding post.
If I triple he will pretty much fold all worse and call all better (don't expect the donk to fold a pair), and if I cbet c/c c/c I get value from all worse (AJ, AT, A3, A2, broadways) and only lose my whole stack vs his 9x+ (dont expect him to shove like 2nd pair for value)
Sucks he was even too bad to 5b AKo
Prob still too marginal but apart from c/f prob the best line.
fwiw playing bad (spewing pre, stationing the river), running bad, playing a lot though, already 32k+ Zoom hands + some tourneys + some 1kNL in October eventhough I didnt play everyday.
since villian is 3betting 20%+ otb and calling almost every 4bet, do you widen your 4betting value range or widen your 3bet calling range? should you betsize your 4bets bigger? what do you make of it when he just calls your raise otb instead of 3betting?
Very nice play, do you have a lot of regs that flat 4bets IP at 500NL? Any regs that do it properly (like balancing it with AA)?
Most play 5bshove or fold (some mini5bet too)
I'm still not sure wether it's good or bad 100bb deep.
In a way you could say 4b flatters are somewhat "polarized": the fish, the bad regs and the absolute sicko's (you see it all the time at the nosebleeds) flat a lot, while the average 'solid' regs play more 5b/fold
Grinded a lot last 3-4 days but ran really bad EV wise, (7 set under set vs one set over set now for October and ridic amount of KK vs AA) didnt played too well either. Lots of B-game. Still flipping good though.
Seems like I won't hit my 6EV bb/100
Experimenting now with bigger openraisers (trend seems to be smaller and smaller but now that everyone knows how to play vs like 2.2bb openraises and with no stacks smaller then 50bb at the table I feel like 3x+ is better again)
Some hands from yesterday:
This was the most unreal 500NL table I've ever seen, 4 confirmed fish (not counting Hero) and 1 unknown
Preflop: Hero is BTN with K A
UTG folds, MP raises to $15, CO folds, Hero raises to $45, SB calls $42.50, BB raises to $125, MP folds, Hero raises to $516.50 and is all-in, SB folds, BB calls $391.50
Flop: ($1,093) 3 3 4 (2 players, 1 is all-in) Turn: ($1,093) 2 (2 players, 1 is all-in) River: ($1,093) J (2 players, 1 is all-in)
Spoiler:
Results: $1,093 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 3 3 4 2 J
Hero showed K A and won $1,090.20 ($573.70 net)
BB showed K Q and lost (-$516.50 net)
Next hand I crai tpgk on the river in a 5b pot (hand is a little lamer than it sounds though )
Any chance you could say who you think are top 5 regs at 500NL zoom? And maybe mention a couple of the horrible ones? Don't worry if you'd rather not, I understand. I'm playing 200NL zoom atm fwiw, so play with some of the sickos who play 200 & 500, and hoping to move up at some point in the future. + watched alot of videos from 500zoom guys, so just interested
Not gonna name the horrible ones, seem like a bad idea.
Top 5, obv highly subjective and biased etc...
Only including people with Zoom as their main game and atleast 5k hands in my db
In no particular order:
Razed&Confused (lool tilting everyone with his hud blocking & back in the days, overall solid hard to play against)
mynameiskarl (know him rl, lately discussing some hhs, saw some of his graphs, just solid agro and wins a lot pots both pre and post)
orlovgraf (inconspicous reg but cant really find leaks, and cant recall seeing him spewing ever)
Brightstripe (same as orlo, just one of those regs where you have no clue about how you're gonna make money vs them)
and couldnt really find a 5th
Binked one red 88 (split pot lol but it qualified) and stacked one red 88 trying to hit his bonus. Nice promo imo.
Lol you sir are just sick. Nice challenge so far. Would like to ask you which ebooks would you recommend for micro player like myself since you mentioned ebooks as part of your learning curve. The problem I have is I don't really know how to tackle the whole trying to improve my game. I used to watch some videos or read random forum threads, analyze my hands but all that doesn't really ammount to much improvement. I should maybe take a step back and try to understand the concepts more. GL in this challenge in the future!
I'm not familiar with the more recent books (and they prob will be better suited for todays games) But 2-3 years ago I thought Ryan Fee's ebook (free pdf) Verneers (movingup through unl in 2010, free pdf) one was good too. The Poker Blueprint was ok. And Small Stakes Holdem by Ed Miller was also ok.
For understanding the concepts of poker, Mathematics of Poker is a great book, but no really a beginner book, and not always too easy too apply.
Seems like I found back my Mojo!
unfortunately a bit too late for my challenge though
Kinda remarkable how as soon as my redline starts declining my EV upswing ended and last 17k hands when I got my redline back to break even my EV starts upswinging again.
95k hands 5.98bb/100 3.63 EV bb/100
Spewing hard but lot of villains spew harder, and I run better atm.