I would too.

I'm a bit confused why so many reviews of MJ's book have been much less endorsing then Ben's.

Pretty sure he commented in the official Janda thread, so you may want to look there

Very inspiring thread

Link?

Read through most of this thread and there are some really useful posts here - thanks.

Did you start reading books and analyzing your game when you started playing poker? How did you do this?

I've read my first pdf now (Ryan Fee's ebook, which you suggested) and it feels like way too much for now (playing nl25 about break even after 10k hands). I plan on reading it again every few thousand hands until I feel that I got most of the content and will move on to the next ebook. Is this the right approach or should I try looking for simpler ebooks first?

Also, a screenshot of your hud would be too much insight I guess? 27 different (probably more by now) stats per playing must take a lot of space.

Hey man,

Awesome thread!
I love that you play the HS because it is about money but not all, it must be awesome to play with and against the best online players and I really respect that!

You will be crushing the HS soon!!

What stats do you use in your Hud?

Thx and gl

Hey Baron, what kinda stuff you suggest you do on crev? I'm aspiring to get to higher stakes one day also and really put in lots of work so any feedback would be much appreciated! Btw, i'm reading MJ"s book atm and like it so that's the reason this caught my interest.

Thanks and gllglgl

Thx, avatar was just googling red baron and picking the best one.


I dislike the book mostly because his overall approach (making worst hands indifferent between betting and openfolding) for approximating gto lines for preflop, flop and turn is wrong, and not just a little bit.
And there is the use of 3.5x ing pre. Either provide some theoretical argumentation for why 3.5x is better than 2.5x or 3x, or use the sizing everyone at SSNL+ is using. Using 3.5x looks really bad, really lazy, as if he's yet another author who's completely out of touch with modern games.


Hud screenshot seems a bad idea, no need to let my opponents know to which stats I'm paying attention eh
I think your other question were already answered somehwere deep in this thread


It's obv easy to say you dont care about money when you're losing, maybe it's just some lame excuse to make myself feel better eh


The stuff crev is made for, take a certain spot, and try to find the best lines for your and your opponents ranges and be prepared to spend a ****load of time if you want decent results.

i was just randomly wondering..what do you think your WR could be at NL10 zoom over like a 30k hand sample? no info to start with so almost all hands would be played in a vacuum

And there is the use of 3.5x ing pre. Either provide some theoretical argumentation for why 3.5x is better than 2.5x or 3x, or use the sizing everyone at SSNL+ is using.


what? the variables are irrelevant, the formulas are indifferent to these changes...

winrate over 30k hands... weird/useless question

yes maybe to you it is. but then again, nobody asked you

well he's saying its useless becasue his wr over 30k hands could be anywhere between -10bb/100 and like +30bb/100 (these and just random numbers i choose to make a point) cause 30k hands is such a small sample and variance plays a huge part

so take the median and czech is satisfied with that answer

dude...im aware of that. but std dev for OP would be pretty small compared to the field. i just chose 30k hands randomly, we can make it 100k if that makes you guys happy. was just wondering if OP played the game for a few days what WR he thinks hed achieve, hence the 30k hands

Why do you think this approach is wrong, and which approach do you think is best?

I've seen a few other good players criticize Janda's approach. But then there are other really strong players (namely Sauce) who fully endorse Janda. I'd be interested to know what you think a better approach to trying to solve poker is.

As for preflop, I too would have preferred the examples to be 2.5x or 3x, but Janda stated in his thread that he started writing the book 2+ years ago when larger sizes were more standard (which they were), and that he could not just go back and constantly rewrite the book to keep up with every change in this constantly evolving game. This is reasonable IMO, and the larger size also allows the examples to have some relevance to live, where PF raise sizes are larger than online.

Poker Stars $10/$20 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

Hero (BTN): $2450
SB: $2700
BB: $2000
UTG: $2000
MP: $2000
CO: $2000

Pre Flop: ($30) Hero is BTN with A 6
3 folds, Hero raises to $40, SB raises to $160, 1 fold, Hero calls $120

Flop: ($340.00) A 2 2 (2 players)
SB bets $200, Hero calls $200

Turn: ($740) 5 (2 players)
SB bets $440, Hero calls $440

River: ($1620) K (2 players)
SB bets $1450, Hero calls $1450

Final Pot:
Hero shows A 6
SB shows K J


Saw this hand at NL2k 30 minutes ago between u and ac1dd, he had KJ. I talked with some friends and we are not sure is his shove for value or bluff? What do u think?

value imo

bluff/end of derail

Want more updates

value makes more sense imo but both are weird

to fold out.... what exactly?

its pretty optimistic to think you can value bet kj there!

Makes no sense as value or bluff to be honest.

villain reps ak+ we are perceived to be capped at ax
seems a bit meh to bluff with kx when he can bluff with ax (which chops with most of hero's bluffcatchers, rather than loses) though

not saying i like the bluff, but it definitely makes sense*