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12-21-2016 , 02:27 PM
That hand where you have Q3s and fold rivered trips... why? There's no flush/straight possibilities, and I doubt he leads out on the flop with bottom pair, so he's basically just repping 88 or 99, neither of which are all that likely. Everything missed so there's a lot of bluffs in his range. I guess if you have some info that he's a super nit that never bluffs then you can fold, but your hand beats everything but full houses, unless he's leading that flop with K3... In which case he would probably lead the flop with any 3 and would shove any 3 so you outkick him 90% of the time.

Also, hand #6 from your previous post (10Js) wasn't a bluff, you were good. If he's a fish there's no way you got him to fold top pair. You have a ton of showdown value, why not just call and save money when he does actually run into a hand?
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12-21-2016 , 06:16 PM
Subbed and gl.

I play a mix of 25nl and 50nl zoom on stars so no doubt play with you.

Noticing some really lite call downs versus you above from the regs - do you have aggressive betting stats and that is why this is happening or are they just random call downs - the TJ being an example. I don't think I could make that call against you unless I had a decent read.

CO's turn raise with the AA is awful in hand 8. He is relying on either oversetting you or hoping you have the case A and have two pair, so hes got lucky here in that you called his awful overraise.

Hand 9 - valuebet for me here is villain dependant but would likely be a bet fold. You have to think about what your going to get value from - if you have an aggressive image then it's a no brainer vb because villains will often talk themselves into calling you. You might get check raise shoved on here and I guess if you are going to value bet you need to make up your mind if you are calling a shove or not.
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12-21-2016 , 09:11 PM
tgiggity:

Q3 - I just don't see people bluffing rivers too much. In order to bluffcatch sb otr I must have a reason to believe he's capable of making a big bluff there. Otherwise I prefer to fold as they always turn out to have the least probable hand there. Had it been a reg that bluffs the rivers, I'd have made a call.

JT - imo his betsizing suggests that he's valuebeting a jack, my kicker sucks so I guess that I just prefer to bluff him off than call and lose to a better kicker. Fish bets the king ott so I'm not trying to bluff him off a TP.

NoSurprises

tbh I don't know what's going on with their sick calldowns. My cb river is about 50, at nl25 they didn't call me down that light. At nl50 I've got the impression they'd call me down with a freaking 22 if there was a single busted draw out there.

Thanks for your inputs on these hands, I mostly agree with all what you've said.
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Last 2 days I've been losing every single stackoff. Don't even want to see the graph. Thank God some regs are so freaking crazy (look below), if it wasn't for them I'd be busto with my run



    Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37552041

    Hero (BTN): $50.75 (101.5 bb)
    SB: $50.75 (101.5 bb)
    BB: $51.50 (103 bb)
    UTG: $95.72 (191.4 bb)
    MP: $46.21 (92.4 bb)
    CO: $54.54 (109.1 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BTN with A A
    UTG folds, MP calls $0.50, CO folds, Hero raises to $2.50, SB folds, BB raises to $8, MP folds, Hero raises to $17.50, BB calls $9.50

    Flop: ($35.75) 5 T 4 (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $6.50, BB raises to $34 and is all-in, Hero calls $26.75 and is all-in

    Turn: ($102.25) 5 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
    River: ($102.25) 3 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

    Spoiler:
    Results: $102.25 pot ($2 rake)
    Final Board: 5 T 4 5 3
    Hero showed A A and won $100.25 ($49.50 net)
    BB showed 8 7 and lost (-$50.75 net)



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    Crushing zoom nl50+ Quote
    12-21-2016 , 09:50 PM
    For the Q3 hand I just don't see villian checking the turn with a set or A3 with two flush draws out there, so he's not really repping anything on the river when he shoves. I also don't think you're just bluff catching because you beat most 3x hands that he's shoving for value. (although that's only if he would bet bottom pair on the flop, which seems unlikely, but it is possible considering it was heads up and he checked turn)
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    12-27-2016 , 09:04 PM
    You may be right bro, that could have been a call.
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    Ok guys, have had a family emergency, thank God it's all over. That and Christmas as well - I haven't played for almost a week.

    I have prepared a goal for the next year and a plan of work. My intention is to be the hardest zoom grinder of 2017. It's going to be 80% play, 20% study. I also want to establish a habit of planning each day. Checklists are prepared and I'm going to print them and put them on the wall.

    I think about starting a thread somewhere on the forum to look for a hardworking reg from 50-100 to motivate each other and push one another.
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    12-29-2016 , 06:51 PM
    Today's lesson - don't ever bluff anyone on nl50. Either these regs are psychopats or I'm to weak to feel the dynamics yet.





      Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37558889

      BTN: $61.01 (122 bb)
      Hero (SB): $52.50 (105 bb)
      BB: $66.86 (133.7 bb)
      UTG: $196.52 (393 bb)
      MP: $120.86 (241.7 bb)
      CO: $252.43 (504.9 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is SB with 7 A
      3 folds, BTN raises to $1.12, Hero raises to $4.50, BB folds, BTN calls $3.38

      Flop: ($9.50) Q 7 A (2 players)
      Hero bets $4.96, BTN calls $4.96

      Turn: ($19.42) J (2 players)
      Hero bets $12.92, BTN calls $12.92

      River: ($45.26) 6 (2 players)
      Hero bets $30.12 and is all-in, BTN calls $30.12

      Spoiler:
      Results: $105.50 pot ($2.00 rake)
      Final Board: Q 7 A J 6
      BTN showed A K and lost (-$52.50 net)
      Hero showed 7 A and won $103.50 ($51 net)



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        Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
        Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37558890

        BTN: $30.26 (60.5 bb)
        Hero (SB): $50.25 (100.5 bb)
        BB: $52.06 (104.1 bb)
        UTG: $50 (100 bb)
        MP: $56.69 (113.4 bb)
        CO: $79.61 (159.2 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is SB with 6 A
        4 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, BB calls $1

        Flop: ($3) 2 K 8 (2 players)
        Hero checks, BB bets $1.88, Hero calls $1.88

        Turn: ($6.76) T (2 players)
        Hero checks, BB bets $6.44, Hero raises to $18.75, BB folds

        Spoiler:
        Results: $19.64 pot ($0.98 rake)
        Final Board: 2 K 8 T
        Hero mucked 6 A and won $18.66 ($8.84 net)
        BB mucked and lost (-$9.82 net)



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          Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
          Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37558891

          BTN: $36.63 (73.3 bb)
          SB: $72.43 (144.9 bb)
          BB: $55.78 (111.6 bb)
          Hero (UTG): $51 (102 bb)
          MP: $54.93 (109.9 bb)
          CO: $28.77 (57.5 bb)

          Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q T
          Hero raises to $1.50, 2 folds, BTN calls $1.50, 2 folds

          Flop: ($3.75) J 5 T (2 players)
          Hero checks, BTN bets $1.78, Hero calls $1.78

          Turn: ($7.31) 2 (2 players)
          Hero checks, BTN bets $4.50, Hero calls $4.50

          River: ($16.31) 7 (2 players)
          Hero checks, BTN bets $7.75, Hero calls $7.75

          Spoiler:
          Results: $31.81 pot ($1.59 rake)
          Final Board: J 5 T 2 7
          BTN showed K J and won $30.22 ($14.69 net)
          Hero mucked Q T and lost (-$15.53 net)



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          He snapped it
            Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
            Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37558892

            Hero (BTN): $53.12 (106.2 bb)
            SB: $51.50 (103 bb)
            BB: $114.50 (229 bb)
            UTG: $50 (100 bb)
            MP: $62.14 (124.3 bb)
            CO: $49.25 (98.5 bb)

            Preflop: Hero is BTN with J J
            2 folds, CO raises to $1.50, Hero raises to $4, 2 folds, CO calls $2.50

            Flop: ($8.75) 9 8 4 (2 players)
            CO checks, Hero bets $4.57, CO calls $4.57

            Turn: ($17.89) 2 (2 players)
            CO checks, Hero bets $11.90, CO calls $11.90

            River: ($41.69) 3 (2 players)
            CO checks, Hero bets $32.65 and is all-in, CO calls $28.78 and is all-in

            Spoiler:
            Results: $99.25 pot ($2 rake)
            Final Board: 9 8 4 2 3
            Hero showed J J and won $97.25 ($48 net)
            CO showed 7 7 and lost (-$49.25 net)



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            Another snapcall
              Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
              Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37558893

              BTN: $45.41 (90.8 bb)
              SB: $52.19 (104.4 bb)
              Hero (BB): $56.22 (112.4 bb)
              UTG: $68.79 (137.6 bb)
              MP: $94.83 (189.7 bb)
              CO: $52.75 (105.5 bb)

              Preflop: Hero is BB with 6 6
              3 folds, BTN raises to $1.50, SB folds, Hero calls $1

              Flop: ($3.25) 6 7 J (2 players)
              Hero checks, BTN bets $1.50, Hero raises to $5.76, BTN calls $4.26

              Turn: ($14.77) Q (2 players)
              Hero bets $9.82, BTN calls $9.82

              River: ($34.41) 8 (2 players)
              Hero bets $28.50, BTN calls $28.33 and is all-in

              Spoiler:
              Results: $91.07 pot ($2 rake)
              Final Board: 6 7 J Q 8
              BTN showed T J and lost (-$45.41 net)
              Hero showed 6 6 and won $89.07 ($43.66 net)



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              Meeeh. BU - reg, SB- fish

                Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
                Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37558894

                BTN: $52.63 (105.3 bb)
                SB: $55.64 (111.3 bb)
                BB: $67.65 (135.3 bb)
                UTG: $76.61 (153.2 bb)
                MP: $66.43 (132.9 bb)
                Hero (CO): $50 (100 bb)

                Preflop: Hero is CO with J A
                2 folds, Hero raises to $1.13, BTN calls $1.13, SB raises to $5.76, BB folds, Hero calls $4.63, BTN calls $4.63

                Flop: ($17.78) 9 T 3 (3 players)
                SB checks, Hero bets $8.25, BTN calls $8.25, SB folds

                Turn: ($34.28) 7 (2 players)
                Hero bets $35.99 and is all-in, BTN calls $35.99

                River: ($106.26) 2 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

                Spoiler:
                Results: $106.26 pot ($2.00 rake)
                Final Board: 9 T 3 7 2
                BTN showed J T and won $104.26 ($54.26 net)
                Hero showed J A and lost (-$50 net)



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                Crushing zoom nl50+ Quote
                12-29-2016 , 11:23 PM


                The regs tilt me a lot and I've made many mistakes today, but still it's been fun. Can't wait tomorrow, hope to play even more hands.
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                12-30-2016 , 11:40 AM
                Hahah, these regs are just nuts

                  Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
                  Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37559508

                  Hero (BTN): $55.25 (110.5 bb)
                  SB: $111.49 (223 bb)
                  BB: $50 (100 bb)
                  UTG: $50.84 (101.7 bb)
                  MP: $52.46 (104.9 bb)
                  CO: $7.59 (15.2 bb)

                  Preflop: Hero is BTN with A K
                  UTG raises to $1.25, 2 folds, Hero raises to $4.50, 2 folds, UTG raises to $12, Hero calls $7.50

                  Flop: ($24.75) 2 6 3 (2 players)
                  UTG bets $5.88, Hero calls $5.88

                  Turn: ($36.51) K (2 players)
                  UTG checks, Hero checks

                  River: ($36.51) 9 (2 players)
                  UTG checks, Hero bets $37.37 and is all-in, UTG calls $32.96 and is all-in

                  Spoiler:
                  Results: $102.43 pot ($2 rake)
                  Final Board: 2 6 3 K 9
                  Hero showed A K and won $100.43 ($49.59 net)
                  UTG showed 3 A and lost (-$50.84 net)



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                  12-30-2016 , 12:20 PM
                  Quote:
                  Results: $102.43 pot ($2 rake)
                  Final Board: 2 6 3 K 9
                  Hero showed A K and won $100.43 ($49.59 net)
                  UTG showed 3 A and lost (-$50.84 net)

                  LOL what an awful call, I don't even find a hand that you could turn into bluff on river that the so called "re" would win against
                  Crushing zoom nl50+ Quote
                  12-31-2016 , 12:04 AM
                  TheVision, I guess he imagined some AQ?



                  The day started off really well. Thanks to the forum I have got in touch with a great guy that plays the zoom pool as well and we've had a sweat session that's gone really well. If you're reading that, thanks again Steve

                  Then I played and ran really really bad. But ain't gonna focus on that. My focus could have been much better. Why wasn't it? Well, because I surfed the internet and whined on skype....

                  So from now on I'm blocking my skype and browsers for the session time.

                  I've wasted like 2 hours for some stupid argument and thanks to that I haven't even played 6k hands.
                  Crushing zoom nl50+ Quote
                  01-03-2017 , 12:06 AM
                  2.01.17


                  6h play + 2h coaching given + 2h session review = 10h workday =me happy

                  Another optimistic reg, snap called it.
                    Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
                    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37562409

                    Hero (BTN): $50 (100 bb)
                    SB: $70.09 (140.2 bb)
                    BB: $46.33 (92.7 bb)
                    UTG: $56.15 (112.3 bb)
                    MP: $90.27 (180.5 bb)
                    CO: $56 (112 bb)

                    Preflop: Hero is BTN with J J
                    2 folds, CO raises to $1, Hero raises to $4, 2 folds, CO raises to $11.50, Hero calls $7.50

                    Flop: ($23.75) 6 J 8 (2 players)
                    CO checks, Hero checks

                    Turn: ($23.75) A (2 players)
                    CO bets $18, Hero raises to $38.50 and is all-in, CO calls $20.50

                    River: ($100.75) 5 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

                    Spoiler:
                    Results: $100.75 pot ($2 rake)
                    Final Board: 6 J 8 A 5
                    Hero showed J J and won $98.75 ($48.75 net)
                    CO showed T Q and lost (-$50 net)



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                    The hand converter has just stopped responding, so just one more, funny one. I'm flabbergasted with the fact that these guys are able to even b/e on nl50 - another reg:

                    http://www.handconverter.com/hands/3007289
                    Crushing zoom nl50+ Quote
                    01-03-2017 , 12:29 AM
                    great volume!!

                    And shut down skype and chrome while playing is a good way for mental game and more focus in game , good advice!!!
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                    01-03-2017 , 10:31 PM


                    Very disappointing volume. This +2h of hands review, must be better tomorrow, that's going to be tough though as I'm taking coaching and have some private things to do.
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                    01-08-2017 , 08:56 AM
                    Grinding and being tired, will post some screens and hh in some time
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                    02-11-2017 , 09:58 AM
                    any updates
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