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Originally Posted by busticator
I might turn down a notch or two on the whole talking thing. For one, I think fundamentals are way more important. Second, it doesn't really work in bigger games. Third, I think sometimes you risk stepping on the wrong side of the ethical line; obtaining information is valuable but angling should be avoided IMO. There's already so much deception and obfuscation built into the game that you don't need to further complicate it with verbal fishing for information, ESP vs weaker opponents who don't stand a chance in the long run anyway. Just my two cents... Keep up the good work!
I agree it does little for helping me in the bigger games (except that it forces me to pay attention.) I do want to clarify that I'm not an (usually) ass about it...
I do try to make the table fun but I don't patronize players.
Never really thought if it as angling, but maybe you have a point. (And this is one if the reasons I am being brutally honest ITT, I want my opponents who read this to adjust and make my life a but more difficult.) I admit I do get a bit of a woodie when someone sniffs through my bull**** and it's game on.
But I will make a conscious effort to tone it down a notch and try to rely more on fundamentals. My goal is to make it worth the trip to MDL (or B Harbor or wherever the big games move, if they move.)
I also know my strategy of giving weaker players proper odds to draw won't work at 10/25, where it is far more likely that I would be the fish on later streets. (Same with my small ball approach, as it is doubtful I would have the edge to profitably implement that strat... At least in the beginning.)
While I don't current play to fully maximize profits (I believe a little fun is important to have even it it affects the bottom line a bit... This game can be tedious, it is hard for me to justify an extra 3 hour commute just to gain maybe a $10-20/hr increase in expected earn. It's the struggle of balancing family obligations (and laziness) with using all the tools at my disposal to improve my game (such as travelling to MDL to play the "tougher" 5/10 game. The lure of cheap, free, easy money is a hard one to resist.
(And you and I both know I'm not really going to be doing much "learning" until in ready to sacrifice some buyins at 10/25...The 5/10 game is almost as exploitable as 2/5, if you opt to stay clear of the occasional land mine or two.)
Really wish some of you 'zillas (god I hope I'm using that word right!) would stop by your old stomping grounds every so often and teach me a cheap lesson in humility.
Also, from what I have heard and read about BadBanana's game, I think I have a bit of a poker man crush on him. So wish I sat with you guys more when Inhad the chance and the price of learning was cheaper.
As always, appreciate your (and all) comments and insite ITT. Please keep 'em coming.