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01-14-2013 , 07:37 PM
today's session: 3x zoom 6m 3x zoom fr. had not much time to grind so decided to stick with zoom today. ran bad all along in terms of coolers and topranges but what can you do...

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01-14-2013 , 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by PlasticElephant
Don't raise flop ever there, (what is your range in their eyes when you raise?) and if you do think about the size a bit more.
+1 x100000000000000000

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Originally Posted by blakkman08
Most importantly as I said if you do raise flop (which I don't necessarily mind if the player is meh) then you absolutely have to bet turn smaller OR bigger (=allin) so that you look bluffy/weak/spazzy and so induce bluffs/spazz/lighter value from his hands that are not AA/KK.
yyeeehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh....no. whatever you do you look like nuts. There is no bluffs/spaz/lighter value as you pretty much just folded all that otf. wp
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01-14-2013 , 07:49 PM
As for the hand: your raise on that flop vs two ppl looks incredibly strong. A flop call dink turn line looks much more wtf. Or a turn check raise. Good night ppl
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01-14-2013 , 10:13 PM
like I said, this guy doesn't care what I have, He got aces...;-)
Sure, could bet smaller turn, but half pot isn't really big now, is it? But agree 20 might be better. Anywho, just wanted to show why it might be fun to play deep.
Thx for the input tho.
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01-15-2013 , 05:47 AM
You know he has aces cuz he ended up showing them down. When he bet the flop you were merely hoping he had aces. That's my point. Don't make a play that only works vs aces when another play can be potentially much better vs his entire range.
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01-15-2013 , 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by blakkman08
You know he has aces cuz he ended up showing them down. When he bet the flop you were merely hoping he had aces. That's my point. Don't make a play that only works vs aces when another play can be potentially much better vs his entire range.
Kinda agree with both. His pf range is obv very wide, but when he calls his rcboop i'd put him on aces as well. The 5 ott makes it less like for hero to hold 55 and he therefore just goes with it imo.
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01-15-2013 , 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Burnss
yyeeehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh....no. whatever you do you look like nuts. There is no bluffs/spaz/lighter value as you pretty much just folded all that otf. wp
to you? probably. to him? lolno

obviously if we get action on the flop villain doesnt realize that we look like nutz and so i think we should either look like we re overplaying a hand like QQ by jamming turn (which obv villain is hoping for given that he still is in the hand at this point (to be able to do this we should size our flop raise bigger )) OR that we re trying to thinly valuebet that very same QQ vs JJ or TT by underbetting making him jam over the top a bunch too cuz... well...lols.

this is all assuming villain is this type of player which now we obviosly know.

if villain was some kind of reg capable of folding AA in that spot i think a call followed by another checkcall on this turn followed by either a checkjam/an underdonkbetcall/an overdonkbetjam depending on the action of villain2 is probably much better.

but as we know on the flop thru some kind of stats/tags/history that villain is a showdownhappy clowny fish i actually dont mind putting in a raise as this type of player a) isnt likely to barrel AK on blanks or overcards alike b) we can get more value from his singlepair hands below QQ that are likely checking turns c) there are a few cards we dont like villain to see OTT. to achieve our goal of getitng max value tho we should obv raise bigger as not only is there a nonzero chance of villain folding the turn (can disconnect or misclick ) but a bigger raise just makes the pot much easier to handle for us as we create a pot smaller than the effective stack size.

other lines we could take all have some issues. the problem i have with checkcall donking any kind of card is that villain is unlikely to raise that turn donk for value even with AA so if anything i think we should checkcall checkraise (which is alllllmost as bad as checkraise flop cuz we re probably getting more folds (and less net value while creating a pot of the same size) taking that line in a vacuum than checkraise flop, barrel turn). which leaves us with either donk flop (meh could potentially induce a raise but if not this is horrible) and checkcall checkcall as stated earlier.
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01-15-2013 , 09:11 AM
No money hu everyone is solid
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01-15-2013 , 09:55 AM
To the 88 hand. What abt donking flop? If CO has an overpair hes calling/raising anyway and if he has air hes prolly ch/folding... i think you forgot abt the BTN who cold called who has a TT-QQ AK range most of the time so if CO gets out of the way BTN is going nowhere with his OPs with this SPR.. just my 2c..

Imo if you ch/r flop in a 3b pot 3way only a very mediocre reg will not fold an overpair there so I think ch/r flop is too ambitious, i like ch/c and donking good turns (i think you couldntve asked for a better card) way better than ch/r in that hand at all, maybe otr, when hes going to be like meeeeeeh, lolpotodds i call..
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01-15-2013 , 10:10 AM
The hand was posted without reads but with the assumption the guy is a mediocre not exactly thinking player so I think that does fall on the meh reg category

the reason I like checking is that we gain quite a bit of insight doing so. We already know the cold callers range as TT-QQ mainly with some KK+ and maybe AK. If therefore the 3bettor cbets we can assume he has at least QQ for value(possibly AK Bluffs but unlikely) and if he doesn't bet he is out of the equation anyways and we also can assume the second guy will always call his bet OR almost always bet himself of checked to so we don't lose out. If first guy checks and second guy bets we obv call and then donk various turns or check call again. But by checking we trap the second guys money in while possibly inducing more than we do by checking
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01-16-2013 , 09:38 AM
Hi, gl with the grind.

I was wondering about the WTSD stat you use on your hud. It's not something i've ever used myself but have heard of a few people using it. What kind of sample do you look for before you start to give it weight and generally how important a role does it play in any decisions you might make.
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01-16-2013 , 09:56 AM
not using it that much but if i am at a close spot vs say a weak reg that i d consider starting a triple barrel buff against i ll check it out and make a decision based on that
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01-16-2013 , 11:26 AM
that makes sense, thanks a lot.
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01-16-2013 , 11:27 AM
Inspiring, I'm subbed and hoping to do the same in my own thread! (But ur 2012 version)
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01-16-2013 , 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by False Dawn
that makes sense, thanks a lot.
yw

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Originally Posted by ParaBellum7
Inspiring, I'm subbed and hoping to do the same in my own thread! (But ur 2012 version)
best of luck to you this year. tbh if u work hard u can do so much more than i did if you re cabable of taking some risks at appropriate times

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right so i played a nother session of zoom 25nl, this time 4x fr and 2x 6m. played pretty well and really liking the effect of having 6 tbales tiled to be able to think thru each decision as well as i can and still get in 1.1k hands an hour. results are semi meh but i ve been running pretty lol at showdowns but i feel like i m playing well and my evwinrate is good enough that i will switch out the 25nl 6max zoom tables from today with two 50nl fullring ones in my next session and if that goes well i ll grarually switch it up till i get to 4 50nl fr tables and 2 either 50nl 6max or 2 25nl fullring or a bunch of table selected 50nl fr reg tables. next session wont happen today or tomorrow tho so likely friday and then all the way over the weekend and all of the next week i will be working my way back into 50nl really looking forward, i ve made a bunch of really good plays today cuz i was able to dissect villain's ranges properly.

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maybe zoom isnt as sh*t as i originally thought afterall?


so far this year my evWR has been 10evbb/100 .

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01-16-2013 , 02:35 PM
Do you not have your RB plugged into HEM? It's not showing up on your graph. What is it now that you're SN?
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01-16-2013 , 03:01 PM
Nah don't have it in there yet. I assume it's like 40%ish? Will probly try and plug in every bonus I get manually to have it more accurate this year. Almost got enough fpps for a 600$ bonus

Edit: update ur threaddddddddddddd
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01-16-2013 , 03:49 PM
Thinking about trying full ring zoom for a cpl days. Been playing 6 max a while now.
Any cliffs on biggest differences, things to keep in mind etc?
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01-16-2013 , 04:49 PM
Hey blakk,

Jus read the OP and skimmed thru

Will b following from now on

GL
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01-16-2013 , 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by magtune
Thinking about trying full ring zoom for a cpl days. Been playing 6 max a while now.
Any cliffs on biggest differences, things to keep in mind etc?
They always have it
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01-16-2013 , 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by x_ROSH125_x
They always have it
Lol, yes that obv
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01-16-2013 , 06:20 PM
Hey Blakk, nice thread Im playing 25nl at the moment, saw you at the zoom tables a few days ago :P

Hope you achieve all your goals this year. I will be following!
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01-16-2013 , 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by x_ROSH125_x
Hey blakk,

Jus read the OP and skimmed thru

Will b following from now on

GL
Sup mister supernova
Great to have you on board bro, just had a look thru ur blog the other night. Grats on the $100k milestone!

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Originally Posted by magtune
Thinking about trying full ring zoom for a cpl days. Been playing 6 max a while now.
Any cliffs on biggest differences, things to keep in mind etc?
I m mainly a fullring guy myself and only used 6m as space fillers so I m not the best guy to ask bout dofferences but not too many differences that I can think of. Many very straight forward weak regs to exploit in both.

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Originally Posted by x_ROSH125_x
They always have it
This. But sometimes they don't


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Originally Posted by randomtom
Hey Blakk, nice thread Im playing 25nl at the moment, saw you at the zoom tables a few days ago :P

Hope you achieve all your goals this year. I will be following!

Sup man, haven't heard from you since I sweated Hicham sweating you ages ago. How u been?

Thx and Gl to you too
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01-17-2013 , 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by blakkman08
Sup mister supernova
Great to have you on board bro, just had a look thru ur blog the other night. Grats on the $100k milestone!

Cheers
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01-17-2013 , 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by blakkman08
Nah don't have it in there yet. I assume it's like 40%ish? Will probly try and plug in every bonus I get manually to have it more accurate this year. Almost got enough fpps for a 600$ bonus

Edit: update ur threaddddddddddddd
Coming soon! Just started back at the grind earlier this week.
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