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Originally Posted by Burnss
yyeeehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh....no. whatever you do you look like nuts. There is no bluffs/spaz/lighter value as you pretty much just folded all that otf. wp
to you? probably. to him? lolno
obviously if we get action on the flop villain doesnt realize that we look like nutz and so i think we should either look like we re overplaying a hand like QQ by jamming turn (which obv villain is hoping for given that he still is in the hand at this point (to be able to do this we should size our flop raise bigger )) OR that we re trying to thinly valuebet that very same QQ vs JJ or TT by underbetting making him jam over the top a bunch too cuz... well...lols.
this is all assuming villain is this type of player which now we obviosly know.
if villain was some kind of reg capable of folding AA in that spot i think a call followed by another checkcall on this turn followed by either a checkjam/an underdonkbetcall/an overdonkbetjam depending on the action of villain2 is probably much better.
but as we know on the flop thru some kind of stats/tags/history that villain is a showdownhappy clowny fish i actually dont mind putting in a raise as this type of player a) isnt likely to barrel AK on blanks or overcards alike b) we can get more value from his singlepair hands below QQ that are likely checking turns c) there are a few cards we dont like villain to see OTT. to achieve our goal of getitng max value tho we should obv raise bigger as not only is there a nonzero chance of villain folding the turn (can disconnect or misclick
) but a bigger raise just makes the pot much easier to handle for us as we create a pot smaller than the effective stack size.
other lines we could take all have some issues. the problem i have with checkcall donking any kind of card is that villain is unlikely to raise that turn donk for value even with AA so if anything i think we should checkcall checkraise (which is alllllmost as bad as checkraise flop cuz we re probably getting more folds (and less net value while creating a pot of the same size) taking that line in a vacuum than checkraise flop, barrel turn). which leaves us with either donk flop (meh could potentially induce a raise but if not this is horrible) and checkcall checkcall as stated earlier.