I think he doesn't actually. Imo he thinks he's a tiny bit bad which pales in comparison with party being rigged and "idiot regs" just getting lucky. Sample size doesn't matter in his mind - running bad over 100 hands = running bad over 200000 or 2000000000 hands. I think he is that delusional, but at the same time a part of me doesn't understand how that is possible, and that mystery is part of what makes him so fascinating. Who wouldn't love to see him stream? I think we could all learn something from someone who lost 16k at 2nl.

TBH I've learned a lot from this thread, I actually wouldn't even believe its real if it weren't for some of the people I've met IRL- I finally have some insight into what they were thinking when they went all in blind for 40 hands in a row, I just always assumed that people who did that were balling out of control and $1000 to them was like $1 to me (in which case that could be fun). Now I realize that was not the case.

Hopefully OP learns something from this thread! Specifically, hope he learns "Being unlucky is NOT the main reason I am losing over 350k+ hand sample size"

What was he thinking? It seems like he just turns his mind and thought process's off and shoves as some type of irrational "retribution" that is actually a gift to all the other players at the table.

^ I started to answer this question a few times, but honestly I feel it doesn't make much sense to give my personal (very non-professional) interpretation when he's already written pages of what he was thinking in this thread. This is a useful tool to filter

Now here goes man, this looks like troll thread, its absurd to lose so much, logical part of my brain thinks this is trolling. But i decided to open a account on 2p2 to offer you help.

You said that you need ranges , and other stuff, i will give you for free, ranges for open/3bet/call, from all positions first, man you need it. And if you promise you will not be monkey tilter i will give you 1hour rev of a session every 10 000 hands you play.

Do what you want, i opened this account for this, i will just say this , ranges in excel sheet you can have. If you listen to me 100% and stop being monkey tilter and do everything i tell you, you will play nl50 by december of this year.

First tip is for free, get out of party poker first , and then if you want we can start. If you dont want its fine, and if you are a troll, keep it up.

The moment you ship something preflop random 100bb its over, if you truly want to get back your money you can do it. It is not worth telling you to quit and find a job. So next best thing i can do as a human being is offer different kind of help, no one did it here. So if you want you can contact me, and give me your database, let me see your game, monkey tilt ship game you stop right ****ing now, i mean instant. And ask yourself what do you really want, do you want to learn and play. Well than, it will be hard, forget about what you lost, start fresh .

And i busted few rolls in my time , when i gambled on plo, and my game was nl holdem, i would grind nl50 online and bust a roll on live 5/10 omaha, so i know how things can go, and what does it mean, to lose 5k in one night and then play a game in which for months you can not get back what you lost.

And i will say something to you, i always had friends who were crushing poker online and live, and i always knew how to play, but my degen gen would destroy me, so i think there is some hope for you if you really think about what you want and then understand that poker path is full of missed rivers and bed beats, you just breath and think how happy the other guy is , positive happines, the other day i played live cash and lost 250bb pot with set over set, i just thought how happy and pumped other guy was, i enjoyed for a moment his happines, that is a key of poker, and key of happy life, enjoy others happines.

You will be part of group of eastern european players that play online from nl100 to nl1k online. Me myself now i play on untracked site that is local, translated in $ my main game is nl400, but depending on action i play lower or higher, you would also play on that site to build your roll of course, as you are EU citizen you can play.

Preflop you can have for free and without anything. Solved spots for 100bb play, and evertyhing else if you are up for it. Preflop i will give, and complete ease to navigate and ease to use, rest if you are up for it. And you really feel ready. First tilt monkey shove its finished.

Just to say, this offer is not limited for paisting only, if someone reading this thread has problems on micros and has data to prove we will consider to make him a winner in 3 months. Which for someone who is willing to listen will be enough.

I promise ranges and some rules for micros first and than who shows that can follow the rules, that will instantly if followed make him 15 to 20bb/100 on nl2, probably 10 to 15bb on nl5, and 5 to 10 on nl10 only by simple rules, simples nothing to it.

OP is a degenerate who needs help.

Oh, I've read all his posts in this thread and the other one because it's all just lol. I just mean I don't think he's ever listed what his thoughts were for open shoving 100+ bigs besides some vague type of retribution for having his blinds stolen "too often" or losing a pot.

When then we will help someone else , i would like it to be paisting, as human being, i would like him to get 30% of what he lost, first month he makes 1k of poker he will see things differently, im sure 100% i can make anyone do it. Online and within 3 months, but listen and do 100% what is said, or written, as its written in local language i would translate it, rule by rule, chapter by chapter, example by example. And would look at a game every 10k hands.

Of course for levels up nl20, we dont need to learn anything complex, and i know we dont, as i played today nl20 zoom/speed whatever, and nl10 , its tested , rules work, im Willy ****ing Wonka and im offering a golden ticket.

I wrote my reasons for why this post is troll, then I saw someone actually posted your lifetime graph a few pages back, so I’m editing.

Poker stars should honestly ban you, it’s unethical from their side, and you absolutely need to seek help before playing another hand or depositing another dollar. Reach out to whatever support base you have; mom, friends, siblings, and ask them to help. It won’t be fun. Gl

donkwithout$ your assuming paisting has the executive functioning to follow through with these rules which simply isnt the case. he cant even avoid going all in with any two cards out of tilt. what makes you think he can follow all these rules of playing certain cards / a certain way in the face of bad beats, in the face of different types of opponets and probability variance. if he literally cant play an hour session without tilt shoving (presuming he actually isnt a troll) i dont think hes going to be able to follow an even more nuanced set of rules.

ajmf5 i doubt they would ever do that. not even casinos ban players for losing money when the casino knows very well through the grapevine that these people are ruining them their families income. i doubt some random internet site is going to care enough about someone losing 16k over a long period at the micros hell they probably have had players lose 60k in a month at higher stakes games and probably didnt really feel concern for them. its part of being an adult of the legal age to play you know your actions you know your consequences.

It´s party I think. It would be the right thing to do in his case, but I pretty much doubt any poker site (or casino or whatever) would ban someone like him. The gambling industry is not known for setting any high moral standards in this world.

I disagree with the assertion that not allowing a man to do whatever he chooses with his own money is in any way "moral". It's the exact opposite of what's moral. That said, I have zero interest in debating this issue, especially here. I just like to speak up and make it known when I vehemently disagree about something that is said so that people might not think I implicitly agree if I stay silent.

Btw, I´m not a saint, not even close to being one, and got my fair share of $ on the tables due to stupid fish doing the same thing op does. Didn´t ask any questions or thought about their problems, if they have mental problems etc. And even if poker sites and casinos agreed that a ban would be the right thing to do, it´s not practical to implement, so, let´s just forget it.

OP at least you are doing this at nl2 and not at nl50+. Otherwise u would be down 1milionl at this point for sure <3
Always positive mindset

It doesn’t have to be some moral high ground that the sites take, just tell OP to burn his money on someone else’s property. It might be best for OP <3

People have been offering him similar help in finnish forums for years. He always refuses.

OP, I feel like you somehow believe that you can win this money back as quickly as you lost it.

Let me just break it down for you. Even if you somehow became a 5bb/100h winner overnight, you’d need to play 16 million hands of 2NL in order to win back your 16k.

Please, for your own sanity, just uninstall all poker clients, delete your account on all poker forums and find something else to do with your time.

Becoming a professional roulette player would literally be a better career move for you.

To put this into perspective 5bb/100 is like 0.1$/ hour per table. You make more money frying burgers @ mcdonalds. Ppl play micro stakes to become better and move up, not to make money. Even if u play 5 tables 10 hours a day its only 5$. Doing this 25 days a month = 125$. I dont know if you get where Im going with this, but it would take over a decade to win 16k$ back on those limits.
This is of course with a sensible strategy. Shoving 100bb cause your pissed even once will throw a whole days work at that table out the window.

Yep, complete waste of time for him to grind it back at 2nl. He obviously won't figure that out though. Rational thought appears to elude him entirely. I'm amazed he hasn't played higher to try to recover losses, like maybe 50nl or 100nl. He's just remained at 2nl for all these years.

Well, if he became decent, he would be able to maintain 15bb/100 while playing 1k+ hands per hour. That's like $3-4/hr.

If he's motivated he can make 16k in ~3 years. If he's allowed to move up, even faster.

He plays on party, where 95% of the player pool is a semi solid eastern european reg, at least at 10nl-25nl. I doubt even the best 2nl reg can get over 10 evbb in such an environment. This is all assuming OP magically stopped tilting like he has done for apparently a decade and improved cognitively, to put it mildly.

I'm sure anyone at his tables can get 10bb/100

loool.

edit : basicly what they're trying to say OP is : " It's impossible for you to gain it back playing poker " <3

OP should quit poker and join Gambler's Anonymous. It's ruining his life. Offering him coaching will just make it worse and you should try offering it to someone who will take advantage of it.