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LOL at Stars caring. You're joking right?

The games on Stars are generally tougher. My winrate is certainly lower there over big samples compared to softer sites.

PokerStars has a sportsbook and an online casino that they're glad to get you addicted to. Lots of their rakeback prizes are for both in the hopes that you place a few bets and start losing your money faster rather than at poker.

They are forced to care because they are very strictly regulated. You can self-exclude from sportsbook and casino and never get any related challenges fwiw.

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02-25-2022 , 12:58 PM

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SpinMeRightRound

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Originally Posted by ddn

They are forced to care because they are very strictly regulated. You can self-exclude from sportsbook and casino and never get any related challenges fwiw.

Key word in bold. The individual has to do it themselves. If the individual doesn't want to, the poker site can't do anything other than continue to let them play and accept their money.

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02-25-2022 , 03:07 PM

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LivingOffEV

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Originally Posted by SpinMeRightRound

Key word in bold. The individual has to do it themselves. If the individual doesn't want to, the poker site can't do anything other than continue to let them play and accept their money.

Of course the poker site can stop accepting the business of a player they deem to have a gambling issue.

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02-25-2022 , 03:33 PM

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NJPW

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If they're a regulated site, they have a duty to stop accepting business from people they suspect are harming themselves by gambling.

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02-25-2022 , 03:35 PM

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SpinMeRightRound

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Originally Posted by LivingOffEV

Of course the poker site can stop accepting the business of a player they deem to have a gambling issue.

But how can they know? That's my point. To them, it just looks like a guy who has a decent amount of disposable income who enjoys spending it playing poker.

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02-25-2022 , 03:53 PM

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Dubnjoy000

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Originally Posted by SpinMeRightRound

But how can they know? That's my point. To them, it just looks like a guy who has a decent amount of disposable income who enjoys spending it playing poker.

Easy. Like when several people from this thread sent 888 some emails of concern over OP's gambling issues, and still did not do a f**king thing

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02-25-2022 , 03:58 PM

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VeniceMerchant

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Originally Posted by NJPW

If they're a regulated site, they have a duty to stop accepting business from people they suspect are harming themselves by gambling.

Is this some idealistic thing you're imagining exists? How would that even be quantified? They aren't looking at credit scores, or how much you owe to bookies or have a second mortgage etc.

Almost everything online is regulated in places like Malta and Kahnawake which aren't looking for ways to reduce their profit margins.

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02-25-2022 , 04:07 PM

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QWUT?

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Originally Posted by VeniceMerchant

It depends on the country and the gambling regulations I think..

I know in the UK some people on Sky Poker have had issues with 'safer gambling' and affordability stuff, with at least one person I know having their account permanently closed.

I have had mine suspended pending a 'responsible gambling' phonecall and they restricted my deposit limit.

I don't know if/how these regulations have affected UK players on other sites.

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02-25-2022 , 04:58 PM

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szander

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Originally Posted by QWUT?

I don't know if/how these regulations have affected UK players on other sites.

I know of players (student age) facing KYC conversations in person when entering casinos, having to go through ludicrous KYC processes online also for well-known sites. ACR no problem though they don't give a ****

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02-25-2022 , 04:59 PM

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szander

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Originally Posted by SpinMeRightRound

But how can they know? That's my point. To them, it just looks like a guy who has a decent amount of disposable income who enjoys spending it playing poker.

I refer you to the original post

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Originally Posted by Paisting

I've lost literally all my money including all my life savings to online poker.

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02-25-2022 , 05:28 PM

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SpinMeRightRound

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Originally Posted by szander

I refer you to the original post

People have messaged the poker sites with this and got no response. The poker sites literally could not give two ****s, they will continue accepting his deposits and there is nothing you will ever be able to do to stop that. The poker sites would be screwing themselves over financially if they declined his deposits.

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02-25-2022 , 06:01 PM

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VeniceMerchant

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Originally Posted by QWUT?

The UK makes sense. UK sites are regulated right in the country right? If so, then the gov't actually has their population to consider with these rules.

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02-26-2022 , 06:57 AM

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ddn

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Originally Posted by SpinMeRightRound

But how can they know? That's my point. To them, it just looks like a guy who has a decent amount of disposable income who enjoys spending it playing poker.

I know people who are winning players, up 5-6 figures lifetime, and after losing a few grand Stars asked them to verify their source of income to ensure they can actually afford to lose that money.

Meanwhile Paisting is punting off thousands per month and tens of thousands per year. You think that wouldn't draw any suspicion? My guess is he's either banned from Stars already, or knows that he will get banned if he tries to play there. No other explanation makes sense.

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02-26-2022 , 08:40 AM

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szander

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Originally Posted by ddn

The narrative seems to be one of two things:

He won't play on stars or on partypoker because they are stricter with KYC, whilst 888 and WPN are more lax, we'll say
He's banned for failing KYC

Either way, don't think we'll see Paisting blinking the Big $1.10 any time soon

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02-26-2022 , 11:45 AM

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VeniceMerchant

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Originally Posted by ddn

I know people who are winning players, up 5-6 figures lifetime, and after losing a few grand Stars asked them to verify their source of income to ensure they can actually afford to lose that money.

Meanwhile Paisting is punting off thousands per month and tens of thousands per year. You think that wouldn't draw any suspicion? My guess is he's either banned from Stars already, or knows that he will get banned if he tries to play there. No other explanation makes sense.

What if they are poker pros with poker as their sole source of income?

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02-27-2022 , 08:49 AM

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Avataren

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My God, is it actually confirmed paistings graphs and stuff is real? A couple of years ago I saw this thread and thought it was a joke with how paisting was acting like a child and everything.... Holy....

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02-27-2022 , 01:19 PM

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szander

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Originally Posted by VeniceMerchant

What if they are poker pros with poker as their sole source of income?

Deposit/withdrawals from other websites are accepted, if the company sends the details over, and not the player. This has occurred before. Also, if the player has a history of being a winning player on the website, they may take that into account.

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02-27-2022 , 04:26 PM

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Kendoo

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Originally Posted by Avataren

Paisting is a confirmed mentally ill person who does not want to get help.
So yes - this is real (as sad as it sounds)

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02-28-2022 , 09:39 AM

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szander

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Monthly update please?

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03-01-2022 , 02:41 PM

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BRm34eva

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Originally Posted by szander

Monthly update please?

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03-02-2022 , 07:23 PM

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Paisting

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Volume was really low on February but overall we got some ev back. Sessions was mostly frustrating, 2 buy ins up, 3 down, 1 up and then couple of suckouts. Tables are full of 12/10 donkeys but they play really poorly on postflop. Most buy ins comes from them. And I play better and better against stealers and not folders. I bluff them really hard post flop and that has cut down my losses. Their strategy goes weaker year after year.