I assume you are looking at it from the moral point of view of giving back etc?
I mean I won't lie it is pretty selfish, but I just don't see the point of making the games tougher for myself over the next few years. Fair enough if you are make cardunners/coach, that is also selfish as it is -EV for the playing pool but +EV for yourself. However me giving out free info that isn't obviously available on 2+2 is obviously not +EV except maybe for my ego ha.
So... had a fun night, plus posted some drunken-sshhiiittt at the Isreali 2+2, so felt the best thing to do before going to sleep for 5 hours will be playing a bit of poker
Obv I'm a realistic guy, and considering my status () I made even more strict stop-losses for the session before starting it - maximum down 2BI after 0.5 hours, maximum down 2.5BI after 1 hour.
Obv I meant EV-Expected-wise, right..?
As always in these situations I found myself after 10 minutes and 200 hands in a 6BI hole effective (-3K), 1BI expected (-0.5K), with the following hands, among others:
fold, MP raises to $10.00, fold, BTN raises to $42.50, fold, Hero raises to $105.00, fold, BTN raises to $500.00 and is all-in, Hero calls $395.00 and is all-in
Flop:($1012.50, 2 players) K 5 K
Turn:($1012.50, 2 players) 8
River:($1012.50, 2 players) 6
Spoiler:
Hero shows A K (Three of a Kind, Kings) (Pre 69%, Flop 71%, Turn 82%) BTN shows 2 A (Flush, Ace High) (Pre 31%, Flop 29%, Turn 18%) BTN wins $1,009.70
Turn:($369.28, 2 players) 8 SB bets $130.11, Hero raises to $327.64 and is all-in, SB calls $197.53
River:($1024.56, 2 players) Q
Spoiler:
SB shows Q A (Two Pair, Aces and Queens) (Pre 29%, Flop 13%, Turn 16%) Hero shows A K (One Pair, Aces) (Pre 71%, Flop 87%, Turn 84%) SB wins $1,021.76
Pondered should I quit now and go to sleep sad & hurt, but decided I was playing to well to do this, and that tomorrow I will forget that I played well and blame myself for playing in a not-so-fit condition, so OBV carried on...
1. How many tables do you play when not playing zoom?
2. How many hands per day do you play?
3. How long are you sessions normally?
thanks, great thread.
Kinda disagree, and IMO that's the problem when you start thinking about poker exclusively that way (value combos/bluff combos etc.). Range is totally dependant on villain, again, you rep OTR 66/AJ/A6... I prob have much wider range than this... as a small example, I totally have there 86.
I am trying to get to thinking combos in-game. Not able to do that yet. Your value range may have anything from 11 to 50 combos. Good villain who is able to use combos in-game makes an estimate of do you have 6 to 25 bluff combos in your range. Ofc there is more to it, but combos
I am trying to get to thinking combos in-game. Not able to do that yet. Your value range may have anything from 11 to 50 combos. Good villain who is able to use combos in-game makes an estimate of do you have 6 to 25 bluff combos in your range. Ofc there is more to it, but combos
Not saying you shouldn't think about combos etc. just saying that from a certain limit, combo-thinking = the new ABC. Missing a lot of meta-game issues IMO..
1. How many tables do you play when not playing zoom?
2. How many hands per day do you play?
3. How long are you sessions normally?
thanks, great thread.
Generally speaking I play around 2 hours per day, so around 1500 hands I think. Used to play between 8-14 tables, currently trying to play no more than 8 regular tables, and only 3 (as opposed to most of the regs who play 4) Zoom tables.
4 tables of Zoom feels to me a bit like I'm on a race, and VPPs is its destination... Not that I can't handle the volume, just now sure how much of my thought process gets expressed when I'm literally clicking buttons every second...
I think my WR speaks for itself, as the main difference between me and most of the reg pool is the amount of volume. For example, I played 450k hands this year, prob at least half than the average reg on MSNL at PokerStars.
Seems to me that 2X WR >> 2X hands played, from all relevant aspects.
Hey Stas! Great thread, keep it going... Registered on 2+2 to say it lol
Regarding K4cc hand - I dont know, man. Having T blocker equivalents having both A+T blockers, cause the only nut-flush you play like this is ATcc. So you rep very thin, K-high flushes only, he may consider calling with his Tc in the first place. Secondly, I think pulling off a huge bluff like this with a blocker is prob better when you have more flushes in your range, than just 2nd nuts ONLY... So its a spew on his side imo. If he is capable of spewing around - then call, otherwise fold.
How do you like it on 500NLZ? How tough is the field comparing to regular 200, 400-600, and 1k? since you played all these stakes in short period of time?
Hey Stas! Great thread, keep it going... Registered on 2+2 to say it lol
Regarding K4cc hand - I dont know, man. Having T blocker equivalents having both A+T blockers, cause the only nut-flush you play like this is ATcc. So you rep very thin, K-high flushes only, he may consider calling with his Tc in the first place. Secondly, I think pulling off a huge bluff like this with a blocker is prob better when you have more flushes in your range, than just 2nd nuts ONLY... So its a spew on his side imo. If he is capable of spewing around - then call, otherwise fold.
Spoiler:
Thanks a lot! (Dima? If not the reveal yourself! ).
My river CR in this spot is not only K-flush, so not sure how spewy it would be for him here to shove river as a blocker-bluff (if he got no SD equity here from calling), on the other hand shoving made straight here might enter the "spew" definition, esp with our aggro dynamics and my Israel-Call-Mode.
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Originally Posted by LiLiPutin
How do you like it on 500NLZ? How tough is the field comparing to regular 200, 400-600, and 1k? since you played all these stakes in short period of time?
Bahazlaha gever!
Spoiler:
Generally speaking it seems like the level at 500NLZ is somewhere in between 400nl and 600nl ([400+600] / 2 = 500 DUH hihi) , prob leaning towards the 400nl.
Not sure I'm right though, cause been playing 400nl+600nl several months ago, and think I improved my game (mostly from the mental aspect) a lot during last 3-4 months, when I played mostly 100nl+200nl.
1KNL seems a lot tougher in my mind than the 500NLZ, but maybe I'm still tilted from my 10k hands there, prob should give it another try in 2013...
Last edited by stasia4242; 12-14-2012 at 09:44 AM.
Not sure about exact number but I took the total MGR of current month, multiplied it by 0.3 (I think Supernove get around 30% rakeback through VIP store, when buying the highest cash available?), multiplied by 100, and devided by the bb.
fold, fold, CO raises to $11.25, fold, Hero raises to $45.00, fold, CO calls $33.75
Flop:($95.00, 2 players) T 4 5 Hero bets $66.38, CO calls $66.38
Turn:($227.76, 2 players) 7 Hero bets $154.97, CO calls $154.97
River:($537.70, 2 players) T Hero bets $497.52 and is all-in, CO calls $497.52
Spoiler:
Hero shows A A (Two Pair, Aces and Tens) (Pre 81%, Flop 92%, Turn 95%) CO shows J J (Two Pair, Jacks and Tens) (Pre 19%, Flop 8%, Turn 5%) Hero wins $1,529.94
Although prob one of the worst rivers I could ask for, check-calling vs this type os not an option (he will sometimes check-behind even T-weak-kicker), and check-check is soooo sad so.... Value-shove it is WoooHoooo.
Hero shows 8 8 (Three of a Kind, Eights) (Pre 18%, Flop 4%, Turn 2%) MP shows J J (Three of a Kind, Jacks) (Pre 82%, Flop 96%, Turn 98%) MP wins $713.94
Thank you for check-calling flop... Never understood those aggro-donks, they go for cbet-3bet-stackoff on this flop with 97o given enough dynamics, but when they hit the absolute nuts, 200bb deep? check-call...
Turn:($88.12, 2 players) 3 Hero bets $57.75, CO calls $57.75
River:($203.62, 2 players) 3 Hero bets $126.51, CO raises to $378.00, Hero calls $251.49
Spoiler:
CO shows 2 2 (Full House, Twos full of Threes) (Pre 63%, Flop 94%, Turn 95%) Hero shows 2 3 (Full House, Threes full of Twos) (Pre 37%, Flop 6%, Turn 5%) Hero wins $956.82
I was bet-folding river in theory (most of his raise-river range consists of Full-houses), but then "accidentaly" pressed the call button insted. Was lucky enough to hit his bottom-of-the-bottom-raise-river-range, plus had blockers vs this particular hand.. Def a fold on the river, though a must-value-bet IMO.
Flop:($33.00, 3 players) 8 7 T
SB bets $20.00, BB calls $20.00, Hero raises to $85.89, fold, BB raises to $185.00, Hero raises to $2,447.07 and is all-in, BB calls $126.50 and is all-in