Turn:($76.44, 2 players) 4 BB checks, Hero bets $46.39, BB raises to $167.60 and is all-in, Hero calls $121.21
Replies on flop/turn would be greatly appreciated.
Tbh hand1 vs tricky reg is never a fold imo.. so many two pairs and flush combos, aint that right?
Hand2 im not folding either with the flush draw out there, and you can always speculate about the backdoor flush draws aswell as the initial flush draw
Tkx a lot for that reply, akes sense, wanted to know how a top player thinks
I am halfway through reading this thread, very interesting and hoping to learn something, I am just a slightly winning player that is stuck with my game
So much winning hands when calling 3 barrels though , maybe you just win everything hehe ;P.. or manage to pick the right spots to call down :O
Note to self - Make an "unbrag" post with all these flat-flat-flat to shove where I'm absolutely crushed
LOVE this hand, you set it up perfectly with heart missing by river, did you have a river plan if heart comes? what do you think is best, and i guess we must assume that there is a chance that he hit it on river too.
Would prob check-call a heart as well. His shove was actually perceived by me as a "value" shove (meaning I think his air-hands would go for a "value" bet and not a shove), but figured I'm ahead of his "value" range.
Played today a tournament with what was probably the toughest field possible in Israel, finished 6 out of 18, felt really good with my game, especially after surviving almost 8 hours of play with 99 being the highest pocket pair that I've seen, and twice AK, one of them got small value on level 1, and the second one went all-in vs shortstack with 9bb and KK (obv flop was AKX).
SB posts SB $1.00, BB posts BB $2.00, MP posts ante $0.40, CO posts ante $0.40, Hero posts ante $0.40, SB posts ante $0.40, BB posts ante $0.40, UTG posts ante $0.40
Do you think you're ever good in h1 otr or did you believe that FE ott = otr?
First of all, I do think I'm good on the river in some weird spots like the one that actually happened, but yeah generally speaking didn't think he has too many hands that are stronger than my J, that call turn and fold to my river bet.
Finally finished my 200NL journey for this time, WoooHooo :}
Original plan was to play around 15k hands, with at least 5bb/100, and 1500$ profit. Eventually decided to stick around a bit more, to make sure I have where to go back if my current re-climb to MSNL should fail.
Today finished a great deep-table session, felt really good about my game and decision making, feels like the right time to go back to 400NL.
Current 200NL quest ended with 20k hands, 9bb/100, and 3k profit with which I'm gonna gamble a bit at 400NL :P
Graph:
Spoiler:
Played with a lot of Israeli regs like XmrWhat, GadMo, Eran4444, Hizintak, VitoC and UriPeleg, all of them are stronger than the average 200NL reg IMO.
A couple of days ago I logged into Stars to give a lesson to a student and I saw one of the most beautiful sights that PokerStars lobby ever offered - all of the 200NL deep tables were filled with 4 Israeli regs in each table, and some random fish/reg-fish... much RESPECT :}
SB posts SB $1.00, BB posts BB $2.00, Hero posts ante $0.40, SB posts ante $0.40, BB posts ante $0.40, UTG posts ante $0.40, MP posts ante $0.40, CO posts ante $0.40
Pre Flop:($5.40)Hero has J Q
UTG raises to $7.40, fold, CO calls $7.40, Hero calls $7.40, fold, fold
River:($57.28, 2 players) 6 Hero checks, BTN bets $36.00, Hero raises to $172.86 and is all-in, BTN calls $136.86
Spoiler:
Hero shows K 6 (Three of a Kind, Sixes) (Pre 27%, Flop 14%, Turn 7%) BTN shows 6 A (Three of a Kind, Sixes) (Pre 73%, Flop 86%, Turn 93%) BTN wins $400.20
Villain tank-called (not as a slow-roll) , so prob Went a bit over the top here with my river shove, thus leaving his calling range only with better hands than mine. Prob should've check-raise to ~96$ and take maximum value from all of his made hands.
SB posts SB $1.00, BB posts BB $2.00, UTG posts ante $0.40, Hero posts ante $0.40, CO posts ante $0.40, BTN posts ante $0.40, SB posts ante $0.40, BB posts ante $0.40
Pre Flop:($5.40)Hero has K K
fold, Hero raises to $5.00, CO raises to $12.00, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $36.00, CO calls $24.00
Flop:($77.40, 2 players) J K 7 Hero bets $46.99, CO raises to $107.98, Hero raises to $372.40 and is all-in, CO calls $264.42
Turn:($822.20, 2 players) 5
River:($822.20, 2 players) 4
Spoiler:
Hero shows K K (Flush, King High) (Pre 80%, Flop 97%, Turn 100%) CO shows 7 9 (One Pair, Sevens) (Pre 20%, Flop 3%, Turn 0%) Hero wins $819.40
SB posts SB $1.00, BB posts BB $2.00, Hero posts ante $0.40, SB posts ante $0.40, BB posts ante $0.40, UTG posts ante $0.40, MP posts ante $0.40, CO posts ante $0.40
Pre Flop:($5.40)Hero has J Q
UTG raises to $7.40, fold, CO calls $7.40, Hero calls $7.40, fold, fold
14 combos of ATs/KTs/T9s/T8s he could have. We need to be right 25% of the time. We need to find 5 bluff combos and we will print money. If he bluffs A7/A6/A5/A4/A3 of everytime we have a winner. Probably bluffs some other hands aswell
This prob have been asked before, but how many tables do you play on average? And do you have periods where you just focus to grind a lot/lots of tables?
Or do you always play fewer tables and think how to exploit the most and play your A-game?
14 combos of ATs/KTs/T9s/T8s he could have. We need to be right 25% of the time. We need to find 5 bluff combos and we will print money. If he bluffs A7/A6/A5/A4/A3 of everytime we have a winner. Probably bluffs some other hands aswell
This is less a combo-math situation IMO, and more dynamics situation, main point being should u shove turn or go for a call-call line.
This prob have been asked before, but how many tables do you play on average? And do you have periods where you just focus to grind a lot/lots of tables?
Or do you always play fewer tables and think how to exploit the most and play your A-game?
How strict is your table selection?
Anything you want to add? Thanks!
Used to play 8 tables, then started crushing, then added tables up until 14 (in July I played 400NL-2000NL as one single lobby), then stopped crushing, then moved down to 10 tables, then to 8, currently feeling that 8 is the maximum ammount of tables that I can play and think of unorthodox lines.
Prob if/when I reach back 1000NL, will play it exclusively, and no more than 6 tables.
I don't believe in the *grinding* concept, feels like being employed by PokerStars + seems to me like the opposite of maximizing your hourly (bb/100 hands-wise).
Don't really table select because if a table is running, a fish is involved.. Plus, most of the regs are kinda fishy IMO, at least at 200NL-600NL.
Best advice IMO to anyone who plays poker would be, start from 2 tables, add tables while you're winning, remove tables if u reach a BE strech, and find your optimal no. of tables balance according to $$/hour.
Hey Stasia can you post up a year to date graph so i can see the swings from when you added tables then removed and dropped down please? love reading this thread, glad you moved away from the 100nl tables
Hey Stasia can you post up a year to date graph so i can see the swings from when you added tables then removed and dropped down please? love reading this thread, glad you moved away from the 100nl tables
Haha Did we play together? What's your screen-name?
Yea nice graph Stasia, we played a bit but v.little tbh, probably less than 100 hands, i try to avoid the 600nl regs playing 100nl for fun and stick to just beating up on the normal terrible 100nl ones GL
Last edited by Glanza_Mike; 10-12-2012 at 08:51 AM.
Reason: SN is glanza_mike
Used to play 8 tables, then started crushing, then added tables up until 14 (in July I played 400NL-2000NL as one single lobby), then stopped crushing, then moved down to 10 tables, then to 8, currently feeling that 8 is the maximum ammount of tables that I can play and think of unorthodox lines.
Prob if/when I reach back 1000NL, will play it exclusively, and no more than 6 tables.
I don't believe in the *grinding* concept, feels like being employed by PokerStars + seems to me like the opposite of maximizing your hourly (bb/100 hands-wise).
Don't really table select because if a table is running, a fish is involved.. Plus, most of the regs are kinda fishy IMO, at least at 200NL-600NL.
Best advice IMO to anyone who plays poker would be, start from 2 tables, add tables while you're winning, remove tables if u reach a BE strech, and find your optimal no. of tables balance according to $$/hour.
if hes not so aggro why arent you betfolding?
I think u can never fold there, even not so aggro fish like to bet when you go bet OTT en check OTR OOP, he could also valuebet worse
Last edited by Mattgrindin'; 10-17-2012 at 12:07 PM.