yeah i see that shoving is the best plan to induce a hero call but i'd just be a bit worried that he's trapping, you've got such good odds preflop and on the flop that he might well expect you to have a lot of floats that he doesn't want to fold out with his premiums by betting the turn, but as you say i suppose it comes dwon to the specific villain.

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Let's say that if you plan to check turn with the intention to check-down-river or fold to a bet, then I'm not sure you should call pre/flop. Prob folding pre would be the more common move (prob even not 4bet cold if I think about it ), and it's totally fine, but if you take the uncommon line then you have to give it your best shot

I Used to be a math-poker-guy, nowadays I feel that once you know the basic stuff, you shouldn't let exact-calculations to interfere with your decision making on various board textures and vs various opponents...

Let's take the 33 hand as a good example. You asked what's my "3bet raising range on this flop", and I can honestly answer that I don't have a "range". It's way more dependant on sizing tells, timing tells, and different opponent types. For exaple - If Schmeff opens from UTG, LostToRiver calls from LP, the same flop comes, the same action happens, then I would prob 3bet-raise my A9dd for value with the intention to get it in vs either one of them (and prob get it in GOOD ). Hope I succeeded in explaining myself...

wow nl1k and nl2k are both bitching around :S best of luck with the move up bro!
love your hand histories, very educational stuff!

It is funny cause I don't consider myself a math guy at all. I have trouble with all the basic stuff to begin with. I try to get better at it because I think it would help my game alot. Like combinatorics. It helps in abcense of solid reads. Vs unknowns. First level thinking is that the villain can have 99/88/33/89 for value when he craises the flop. Second level is how many combos is that ? Combos help in various situations. While bluff catching. Thinking about your own range if you want/need to be balanced etc.

Top of that comes the reads. If you have very solid ones then you can add A9dd to your cr flop value range. I think you always have a range. First you start what with your std one and then you can expand your value range further. Your range is just wider for value now

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Some nice hands from today...

Hand 1: Vs Sccmefff


PokerStars - $4 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

UTG: $185.74
CO: $400.00
BTN: $756.36
Hero (SB): $400.00
BB: $567.04

Hero posts SB $2.00, BB posts BB $4.00

Pre Flop: ($6.00) Hero has T T

fold, fold, BTN raises to $12.00, Hero calls $10.00, BB raises to $48.00, BTN calls $36.00, Hero calls $36.00

Flop: ($144.00, 3 players) 5 3 3
Hero checks, BB checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($144.00, 3 players) 9
Hero bets $87.54, BB calls $87.54, fold

River: ($319.08, 2 players) Q
Hero bets $264.46 and is all-in, BB calls $264.46



Thought about coming over the top pre-flop, but seemed a shame to kick-out the fish on the BU.


Hand 2: VS aggro-reg, with plenty of dynamics


PokerStars - $4 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

SB: $560.50
Hero (BB): $822.03
UTG: $400.00
BTN: $430.90

SB posts SB $2.00, Hero posts BB $4.00

Pre Flop: ($6.00) Hero has Q J

fold, fold, SB raises to $12.00, Hero calls $8.00

Flop: ($24.00, 2 players) A K 5
SB bets $16.00, Hero calls $16.00

Turn: ($56.00, 2 players) J
SB checks, Hero bets $36.79, SB raises to $128.00, Hero calls $91.21

River: ($312.00, 2 players) 3
SB checks, Hero bets $192.51


Qs blocker to 2nd nut flush etc.


Hand 3: VS a fishy-fish


PokerStars - $6 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BB: $627.20
UTG: $2,158.74
MP: $724.95
CO: $556.67
Hero (BTN): $600.00
SB: $1,046.38

SB posts SB $3.00, BB posts BB $6.00

Pre Flop: ($9.00) Hero has J A

fold, MP raises to $18.00, CO calls $18.00, Hero calls $18.00, fold, BB calls $12.00

Flop: ($75.00, 4 players) 6 A 3
BB checks, MP checks, CO bets $72.00, Hero calls $72.00, fold, fold

Turn: ($219.00, 2 players) 9
CO bets $466.67 and is all-in, Hero calls $466.67

River: ($1152.34, 2 players) 5



W/E


Hand 4: Favourite hand of the day, vs agrro-reg

PokerStars - $4 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

MP: $400.00
Hero (CO): $854.57
BTN: $400.00
SB: $615.35
BB: $203.89
UTG: $787.90

SB posts SB $2.00, BB posts BB $4.00

Pre Flop: ($6.00) Hero has 7 9

UTG raises to $10.00, MP calls $10.00, Hero calls $10.00, fold, fold, fold

Flop: ($36.00, 3 players) A 3 8
UTG checks, MP bets $24.00, Hero raises to $71.07, fold, MP raises to $118.14, Hero calls $47.07

Turn: ($272.28, 2 players) 6
MP bets $80.00, Hero calls $80.00

River: ($432.28, 2 players) K
MP checks,

He had less than half pot left behind, Hihi :P

I reading this thread, one of my favourites on 2+2, love your play style, i'm also playing 6-max on Stars, moving back up the stakes, hopefully (actually hopefully not ) see you at the tables soonish GL

TX for feedback, used to play a lot at lower stakes, what's your SN..?

Nice HH!

I have one question.
For the first hand, why didn't you 3-bet 10s for value against Fish's button open?
Do you usually flat 77-10s from SB against reg's button open? cuz I found them kinda hard to play oop without initiative...

Thanks!

Where is the value in the turn bet ? Bluff ? You have to bet twice to get Kx to fold. And overbet the river to get Ax fold . When he craises what kind of range do you put him on ? Personally I don't have that line in me at all. I cbet all my good hands OTT. Probably should ch some strong hands and cr some aswell vs regs

Should be an easy one to guess It's the same as on here, same avatar too. Not sure if your on Skype but if you ever want to discuss some lines/hands or w/e would be cool.

Don't remeber fish' range exactly, but seemed like his stats were unprofitable for 3bet with TT OOP, and thought schmeff might flat a lot from BB with the knowledge that fish will call third..

I have no problem flatting good hands from blinds, because u will have many chances of taking initiative post-flop when your range is about 7% of hands and their range is around 40% and they miss flop so much..

I bet turn 4 value cause I have tons of fold equity (had the guy on 9 out of 9 fold turn after cbetting flop and checking turn..), and plenty of value to the river (Q,J,T,spade, about 30% to win river). I have no problem checking behind river when I miss and let him have it, for all the tines he folds turn/hero calls river.

two weird spots from today...

Hand 1: VS an agrro fish


PokerStars - $10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

CO: $1,050.50
BTN: $2,358.32
Hero (SB): $3,060.24
BB: $1,594.00
UTG: $3,389.47

Hero posts SB $5.00, BB posts BB $10.00, CO posts ante $2.00, BTN posts ante $2.00, Hero posts ante $2.00, BB posts ante $2.00, UTG posts ante $2.00

Pre Flop: ($25.00) Hero has 7 7

fold, fold, BTN raises to $20.00, Hero calls $15.00, fold

Flop: ($60.00, 2 players) K 5 2
Hero checks, BTN bets $40.00, Hero calls $40.00

Turn: ($140.00, 2 players) 7
Hero checks, BTN bets $100.00, Hero raises to $398.94, BTN calls $298.94

River: ($937.88, 2 players) A
Hero checks, BTN bets $1,897.38 and is all-in, Hero calls $1,897.38


Thoughts about the line on the turn / river...?


Hand 2: VS very good and loose reg

PokerStars - $4 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

SB: $1,068.50
BB: $400.00
UTG: $406.44
MP: $410.80
CO: $410.80
Hero (BTN): $618.11

SB posts SB $2.00, BB posts BB $4.00, SB posts ante $0.80, BB posts ante $0.80, UTG posts ante $0.80, MP posts ante $0.80, CO posts ante $0.80, Hero posts ante $0.80

Pre Flop: ($10.80) Hero has 4 J

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $8.80, fold, BB calls $4.80

Flop: ($24.40, 2 players) A K A
BB checks, Hero bets $14.44, BB raises to $28.88, Hero raises to $77.84, BB calls $48.96

Turn: ($180.08, 2 players) 7
BB checks, Hero bets $89.95, BB calls $89.95

River: ($359.98, 2 players) 4
BB checks, Hero checks



Seemed to me he def had weak ace, and that he's not gonna fold river shove.. Interesting spot of I-Know-What-You-Have from both prespectives.. Thoughts?

if you know that he has weak A and you think he won't fold why did you bet turn?

I thought he'll fold but after insta-calling turn bet, I was kinda forced to review my thinking

Big hands from late-night-sess...

Hand 1: Vs Mysterrss_YY, still not sure if he's a good reg or not


PokerStars - $10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

SB: $1,000.00
BB: $1,000.00
UTG: $2,006.28
MP: $1,992.00
CO: $2,074.00
Hero (BTN): $1,878.51

SB posts SB $5.00, BB posts BB $10.00

Pre Flop: ($15.00) Hero has 4 4

UTG raises to $30.00, MP calls $30.00, fold, Hero calls $30.00, fold, fold

Flop: ($105.00, 3 players) 2 A 4
UTG bets $79.56, fold, Hero raises to $221.45, UTG calls $141.89

Turn: ($547.90, 2 players) 8
UTG checks, Hero bets $397.83, UTG calls $397.83

River: ($1343.56, 2 players) K
UTG checks, Hero bets $1,229.23 and is all-in, UTG calls $1,229.23




Hand 2: vs good agg reg with lot's of folding dynamics by me in 3bet-pots

PokerStars - $6 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

CO: $899.68
BTN: $1,523.92
SB: $924.35
BB: $1,749.58
UTG: $2,146.63
Hero (MP): $1,000.00

SB posts SB $3.00, BB posts BB $6.00, CO posts ante $1.20, BTN posts ante $1.20, SB posts ante $1.20, BB posts ante $1.20, UTG posts ante $1.20, Hero posts ante $1.20

Pre Flop: ($16.20) Hero has T T

fold, Hero raises to $15.00, CO raises to $60.00, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls $45.00

Flop: ($136.20, 2 players) 2 3 8
Hero checks, CO bets $97.72, Hero calls $97.72

Turn: ($331.64, 2 players) 6
Hero checks, CO bets $209.30, Hero calls $209.30

River: ($750.24, 2 players) J
Hero checks, CO bets $531.46 and is all-in, Hero calls $531.46





Hand 3: Vs Laggish reg, hihi

PokerStars - $10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

MP: $1,015.00
Hero (CO): $1,189.18
BTN: $450.00
SB: $994.05
BB: $872.15
UTG: $1,248.70

SB posts SB $5.00, BB posts BB $10.00

Pre Flop: ($15.00) Hero has A A

fold, fold, Hero raises to $22.00, fold, fold, BB calls $12.00

Flop: ($49.00, 2 players) 4 9 A
BB checks, Hero bets $29.01, BB raises to $100.00, Hero raises to $243.01, BB calls $143.01

Turn: ($535.02, 2 players) 2
BB checks, Hero bets $231.97, BB calls $231.97

River: ($998.96, 2 players) 6
BB checks, Hero bets $692.20 and is all-in, BB calls $375.17 and is all-in

in a hand where you had set of 44's, if you are villian, would you play A2s hand same as villian did if you would be playing vs someone that plays same as you. So you have A2s on that board and cbet flop and someone with stats as you have raise you, what is your plan?

Bet or shove yourself. More combinations of two pair/one pair hands in his range than missed draws that you want to induce from.

Review after flop allready. I have never seen a HH where someone has folded trips there OTT. On the river one reg out of few million might fold. Turn bet is pointless. Unless you have some sick read that he has QJ or that he has total air and is floating. Without it think he has Ax and is never folding.

Prob call flop raise, fold turn. I mean, villain in BU ( ) raise on 2 guys, he can have for value : 35, 22, 44, A4, 42 .

he can have as a semi-bluff: 43ss, 54cc, KQcc, KJcc, KTcc, 56cc, 57cc, 46cc, 43cc etc.

Most of his value hands are crushing our hand.

Most of his semi-bluff hands have at least 30% equity vs our hand + position (which means he can always either check-behind turn and take a free card, or he can bet small turn like I did , and check-behind river when he misses / shove PSB on river when he hits).

Just don't think a call-call-call line here is profitable.

Another way you can play it is to 3bet flop, with the intention to fold to a 4bet , and bet turn/ check-call river if villain just flats our 3bet on flop.

Thought about this hand a lot, and had a big discussion on it at the Israeli forum, my final conclusion is:

Check-Shove >> Bet small to induce-call >> Over-Bet-Shove >> bet 64% .

It seems to me that most of his calling range on turn consists of big draws. It's easy to say he has two-pair with the ace now, but I just never see him call turn with A5/A2/A7 , and AK always bets river here.

Anyway, I think by betting/shoving we make all of his hands to fold (air + weak made hands) and get calls from (AK, AA, KK, 55, 22, 34) of which 3 are stronger than us, and 3 are weaker than us, and all 6 always bet river when checked to, and prob always raise river tinish bet.

Yeah, prob giving up on turn is the best... I thought he will give me the credit because I practically NEVER go for this line with air, but W/E...

Great thread, graph of this month plz?