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11-03-2012 , 01:16 AM
Yea, easy turn bet for value
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11-03-2012 , 12:51 PM
Yea, I agree about the turn bet guys.
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11-03-2012 , 05:25 PM
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Good effort, keep going!
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Good luck Sean, very impressive approach you have.
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Good luck man. Subbed and will be following.
Thanks guys!
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11-03-2012 , 06:54 PM
Good luck Skraper, hope you crush.
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11-03-2012 , 07:59 PM
Just got beat up at the tables. I don't think I played badly but I'm gonna give myself a few minutes to unwind before I do my spew review. Had to close all the tables at the end. I was over my planned session length and I was starting to feel some real tilt coming on. Been a few weeks since I felt the rage creeping in.
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11-03-2012 , 08:49 PM
How do you think your mental game has improved since the start of the challenge Sean? I have the book and maybe read 1st 2/3 chapters and left it im going to restart reading.

Im going to give the cooldown idea a try as i dont evaluate my play no where near enough as i should and it important part of the learning process and fixing mistakes.

Early on you talk about the inch worm concept wondering what steps you have taken to improve your C game.
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11-03-2012 , 10:03 PM
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How do you think your mental game has improved since the start of the challenge Sean? I have the book and maybe read 1st 2/3 chapters and left it im going to restart reading.
I think I've come a long way. Before I started I think tilt/frustration was a factor in nearly every session I played. Now I go through most sessions without it coming up.

What I'm working on now is being able to play longer sessions without autopiloting. I'd say my average session is between 1.5-2 hours now instead of 1-1.5 hours. And sometimes I play longer.

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Im going to give the cooldown idea a try as i dont evaluate my play no where near enough as i should and it important part of the learning process and fixing mistakes.
I think this has been helpful for me. To help me see what I'm good and bad in each session. It also helps prevent the residual tilt that was building up before. When I have a losing session and I do a spew review and find 1-2 buy ins of mistakes its really hard to get mad about running bad. I just try not to make the same type of mistakes the next session.

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Early on you talk about the inch worm concept wondering what steps you have taken to improve your C game.
I think I've improved in this area too. I've basically eliminated what would have been my C game at the start of the thread (when I was tilting). My new C game is when I am:
- a little frustrated due to a few poor runouts or semi-coolers. This is a lot different than when I was tilting before. Now I notice that I'm starting to get annoyed and I just have to take a deep breath and sort of reset myself. Sometimes I use what Tendler called 'injecting logic'. I have a few phrases that I may say to myself or out loud when I notice the frustration. It only affects my game in that I take some of my focus away from technical decisions.
- anxious. Not sure if this is the best word to describe it, but sometimes I start sessions off playing way too fast. Fast as in a bit looser than normal and also as in my decision making speed. I've only just started to notice this, but I think its been a part of my game for a while. I've been noticing it and stopping it relatively early on lately, but I'm sure that its cost me a few dollars over time.
- tired/zoned out. This comes into play during my longer sessions. I am trying to push my session length to about 2.5 hours on average and I will find myself unfocused towards the end of sessions sometimes, but this is improving pretty steadily.
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11-04-2012 , 01:55 AM
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Originally Posted by skraper
Just got beat up at the tables. I don't think I played badly but I'm gonna give myself a few minutes to unwind before I do my spew review. Had to close all the tables at the end. I was over my planned session length and I was starting to feel some real tilt coming on. Been a few weeks since I felt the rage creeping in.


This session was painful to review but I think what has helped me up till this point has been my honesty when reviewing my sessions so i'm including even the really terrible hands here.

1. Spew Review
- Had AA on a shallow table (50bb max). I 2brl on Jxx and a tweener fish makes a slightly larger than minraise. I shipped it in and he had a set. Pretty sure he's gonna show me a set here every time. 40bb
- I overbet bluffed a river on 23456 and got snap jammed on. I think my river play is reasonable but I very much dislike cbetting the flop. 5bb
- floated flop, turned oesd and called again. I much prefer a turn raise here. A9 on Q678
- Took a weird/stupid line with A5 on AT5J3 by checking turn. Its a barrel and its not close. 15bb
- Called flop and turn donks with 68o on 478mtQ3. I think my play is good vs some players but this guy had 6% donk over a large enough sample that his range is just too strong and I should fold flop. 30bb
- BVB vs a guy with a very high f3b I flat JJ. His flop cbet is 63, his turn barrel is 62. He cbets 788 and c/c turn 3 . River is 9 , I bet 72 into 120. He quickly (but not instantly) jams for 340. Given his high barrel i think its unlikely that he has a FD or 99. I think he may c/c turn with 77/88/33 sometimes, but even those barrel sometimes. I dunno on this one. Seems hard for him to be nutted but maybe this guy just isnt spazzy enough to show me 55 or AQ .blah potentially 60bb?
- 3 bluffed a reg with high 3b and got cold called by a fish, reg over calls. Made a marginal cbet, but I thought it might be slightly better than checking. Fish minraises, I call with my OESD. Then realize that the flop was 245 and not 345 and my A6 is not open ended but a gutshot. :/ Which makes my cbet and call both spewy. 65bb
- 30/16 40bb stack 4x otb. I make it 12bb with AQ, he mini 4bets me. Guess its just a fold when he makes this sizing, even tho my plan was to get stacks in. Its just always the nuts when they mini 4b 2/3 of their stack. 28bb
- I open KJo otb. fishy villain flats in SB and donks 9T5. He has 10% donk and only 50bb so i opt not to raise and just float. turn is brick and he barrels 1/2p. Its prob just a fold here. I think I overestimated my equity by a little bit and also overestimate my ability to play brick rivers but this was prob only a very slightly -ev call. 2bb
- For this hand I was clearly on tilt and is the main reason i stopped playing. I open AJ bvb vs an unknown. I cbet QJ6. He calls. I c/c 2 turn and c/c T river. Its just a hugely spewy play. I don't think I've played a hand this badly since I was struggling to win at 50nl. Its just so awful and the only logic i had in the play was f u I'm sick of folding. 30bb
- I iso a fish w 89s. He makes the limp/3b and I snap call bc I am mad. I flop air and fold to his cbet. 9bb preflop but potentially more if I had flopped equity.

2. Evaluate your play (Mental and Technical)
Technical Game: 6/10 - I made a lot of poor decisions that started to get worse as the session went on. I made several questionable barrels and was 3betting a bit too often. I think most of the mistakes above are just mistakes, but towards the end of the spew review the decisions become more and more motivated by frustration and less and less by logic.
Mental Game: 4/10 - I started off playing too fast and started running poorly which caused me to get frustrated. In game I didn't think I was off my game by much, but looking back through the hands I see a lot more mistakes than I normally make. Then I followed this up with 2 super spewy pure tilt hands. I thankfully was able to quit once I realized I was not in control in anymore.

3. Take note of anything you did particularly well
I completely detroyed a reg who 3bets me way too much and doesnt respect my 4bets or 3bets. And by destroyed him I mean I just went for wide value and didn't level myself and let him get spewy.

4. Take notes on how the regulars played
Same as above basically. Guy thinks I am crazy for some reason. Or he is just this spazzy vs everyone?
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11-04-2012 , 02:14 AM
I think its interesting that I was just saying to bigmick how I have really gotten over the tiltfactor for the most part and then I manage to tilt pretty hard at the end of my session. I wasn't tilting until the very end and I only had 2 pots that occurred in the last few minutes of the session where I actually spewwed bc of the tilt.

Perhaps a bit of bloated confidence in my progress. Or maybe I am that much better but today was the first day that I reached my new limit. Looking at my graph, its pretty clear, judging by my redline that I was getting run over in non showdown pots for the entire last half of the session. Then I proceeded to get coolered in a few big pots (see my greenline around hand 2k). And it just hit. I havent felt that particular emotion in a while. I am glad that I was able to quit after only a few tilt induced spews.
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11-04-2012 , 02:43 AM
I didn't quite make my volume goal for the day so i am gonna play another 1-2 hours now but I think I am gonna stay away from 400nl unless I can find extremely favorable tables, for this session at least. I've had several hours to let the anger out but I can still feel it a little bit so I am going to use this session to actively focus on playing when still frustrated. Will post my cooldown when done.
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11-04-2012 , 03:40 AM
GL Sean! I've always enjoyed talking hands with you and I enjoy this thread maybe even more. Subbed.
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11-04-2012 , 05:30 AM


Glad I went and played some more. I feel like I play way better this time. Also ran pretty well, which helped.

1. Spew Review
- I squeeze JJ. Unknown but presumed reg flats, 80/4 fish flats. 235s flop. I cbet 2/3, reggish guy snap raises big (for a 3b pot). Megafish tanks and cold calls. Felt unsure. Reg maybe can have sets and set mine pre bc he knows big fish is calling, but he is pretty new to table and may not know how big the fish is. Fish can have almost anything from 64 (nuts) to A8 with the dackdoor fd. I decided that I wasn't quite sure what the best play was but that there was a ton of money out there and the the reg could have some draws so I just stuck it in. Reg ended up with a set and the fish had K6o for the naked gutshot. Still mostly happy with this play. 0bb
- Weird spazzy guy opens to 25 bvb. 25 was his standard open size, tho he had limped before as well. I was torn between 3betting and flatting AQ. Decided to flat. 238 flop he cbets 2/3, I call. Turn 9o he bets 1/3p, I call. River 9o he bets 100 even, slightly over 1/2p. It prob a fold here, but he was just so weird/spazzy that I thought there was a decent chance he'd just show me like J5o or something. Not gonna really call this pure spew, but I'll say its like 1/2 spew on the river. 13bb
- Reg minraises BTN, reg flats SB, I overcall K7. 864 flop. BTN cbets, SB flats, I c/r 3.5x. BTN flats, SB folds. A turn, I barrel 1/2p. Villain snap jams. I was really torn on this one. I need a bit better than 30% equity to call. Seems hard for villain to have a set or a straight. I guess he could have A8 or AA for a turned monster. Even vs just those hands i have about 25% equity. I dunno, icky spot. Seems crazzy for him to jam any hand on that turn. I was pretty worried he might be spazzing with AT type hands. That seems more likely than him shipping that turn with JJ. So i ended up folding, but it felt super dirty. 0bb
- cbet AJ 3handed on KT4. Got c/r and floated. I think in some other spots its a fine float, but I had opened utg and cbet into 2 other ppl so I think he is way less likely to be bluffing. I realized my mistake and folded the turn tho. 12bb
- Made a bad cbet 4handed to the flop. Thought it was 3 handed. Had I known it was 4 handed I would have c/f. 10bb


2. Evaluate your play (Mental and Technical)
Technical Game: 8/10 - Still made a few small mistakes but a big improvement over last session.
Mental Game: 9/10 - I had the one hand where I floated a c/r too lite early in the session and once I did that I really doubled down on focusing and making good solid decisions.

3. Take note of anything you did particularly well
Definitely came back strong after such a disaster earlier today. Also made some good thin vbets and good laydowns.

4. Take notes on how the regulars played
Was 250bb deep with a reg. He small 3bets OOP, I call A2s. flop is KQ7. he cbets. I raise with the backdoor NFD, he super snap calls. I give up when I turn no equity. He shows AK. I don't think his flop call is wrong really. I just thought it was crazy to snap call OOP so deep. He should be considering how f'ed up this hand is gonna be if I barrel. So I noted that he prob thinks about absolute strength in the moment and doesn't really think multiple streets ahead.
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11-04-2012 , 05:59 AM
I suffer from a few of the issue you mention where you play a little loose early on maybe open a few to many wide BTN/CO when then active 3bs behind. Also auto pilot and clicking fast and thinking more decisions are standard when they aren't. I have also noticed get frustrated easier recently as result having been great so maybe that's tilt that I haven't got rid of from the last session.

Interesting read Sean keep it up, looking forward to the 50k updates
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11-05-2012 , 04:32 AM


Good session this morning. My brain is a little fried. Gonna come back and do the review after I catch up on Homeland and maybe Dexter too.

I will leave this HH tho.

Winning Poker Network - $4 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: $598.90
Hero (UTG): $516.90
CO: $578.50
BTN: $1,051.80
SB: $400.00

SB posts SB $2.00, BB posts BB $4.00

Pre Flop: (pot: $6.00) Hero has J J

Hero raises to $12.00, fold, fold, SB calls $10.00, fold

Flop: ($28.00, 2 players) 5 5 6
SB bets $17.40, Hero raises to $52.20, SB calls $34.80

Turn: ($132.40, 2 players) T
SB bets $64.95, Hero calls $64.95

River: ($262.30, 2 players) A
SB bets $270.85 and is all-in, Hero calls $270.85

Hero shows J J (Two Pair, Jacks and Fives) (Pre 79%, Flop 86%, Turn 95%)
SB shows 4 6 (Two Pair, Sixes and Fives) (Pre 21%, Flop 14%, Turn 5%)
Hero wins $801.50

Last edited by skraper; 11-05-2012 at 04:44 AM.
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11-05-2012 , 06:01 AM
Sick call. Don't think I could call there since he just looks like he'd end up button clicking me with the 3 or something haha
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11-05-2012 , 06:24 AM
Very sick call, could you explain your thought process here? I'm assuming you have a decent amount of history or some solid read on villain?

Spoons.
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11-05-2012 , 06:47 AM
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Sick call. Don't think I could call there since he just looks like he'd end up button clicking me with the 3 or something haha
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Very sick call, could you explain your thought process here? I'm assuming you have a decent amount of history or some solid read on villain?

Spoons.
Villain is pretty loose preflop but not a maniac. His range is probably something like any pair, any broadways and all the pretty hands like suited connector and suited Ax.

He donks flops often but isn't the type to float my raise with nothing. So when he call he is going to have 5x, 6x, PP from 22-TT/JJ, FDs and straight draws. I don't think he is the type to play offsuit connectors.

My history with villain made me believe that when he chooses to donk again on the this turn that he is FOS nearly 100% of the time. It's just not the type of line he would take for value.

River is troubling at first glance. But given my read that he doesn't float flop with air (KT for example) and that he was extremely unlikely to play a turned flush this way, he has very few hearts for even getting to this river this way. His only hearts are hands like 88, but I felt very strongly that he would check his middling hearts rather than jam them out of desperation/confusion. I think there is some chance that a hand like 22 may still bluff jam the river (bc he feels it has less SD value), but even a heart that weak I think he would check some of the time. So basically his range consisted of a whole lot of pairs turned into bluffs and busted straight draws without hearts.
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11-05-2012 , 09:03 AM
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Good session this morning. My brain is a little fried. Gonna come back and do the review after I catch up on Homeland and maybe Dexter too.
1. Spew Review
- I Open KJo from CO. Tight/Passive reg calls oop. QT9 flop, she c/r, I 3b, she flats. I played live poker with this player in Punta Cana. She is unbelievably passive postflop. I think the legit right play is to just shove the flop after she c/r. She always has a set+ and is never folding it. Turn is another Q. She checks. There is appx 1psb left. I jam, she calls with TT. I really think flop is a jam vs this player, and as played turn is probably just a check and then make the sick hero fold on river when she bets. Although knowing her, she probably bets like 1/4 pot and I wont ever make the fold with those odds. 75bb
- I open AA from MP. fishy SB call, BB overcalls. AKQ flop. I cbet, fish flats, BB c/r, everyone calls. Turn 9. BB barrels, I call, fish folds. River bricks. Villain barrels again and I fold. I think there is basically no chance villain has worse for value here (he wouldnt play any set or most 2 pair this way preflop, and his 2 pair hands prob wouldn't play this strongly) and its an insane spot for him to c/r bluff (with like KJ or KT) and then barrel off. He just has to have JT. Pretty happy with my play in this hand. 0bb
- I flat 44 OOP v BTN. QT2 flop checks through. I lead 9 turn. Villain call, River is a brick and I small overbet. I hate this line. I should just c/f river. 17bb
- I sq KK OOP. 3 ways to 689r flop. I cbet. Reg in middle calls. Tighter reg otb snap jams. Puke. I fold. After running a few stoves I just can't find any range that I am getting the right odds against unless he is insane or misclicking. Add to that there is another player left to act and I think its an easy fold. 0bb
- I open A8o bvb v a 32/12 fish. AK5r flop. this fish has a very high fcbet so I opt to check flop to induce some light turn and river calls (this has worked in the past v him). He bets flop IP after I chk. I call. Turn bricks and he barrels. I just don't think he's the type to really bluff me much. Should be a fold. I call. river completes backdoor flush and he bets just under 1/2p and I fold. Found the fold 1 street too late imo. 9bb
- I cbet A35 and face a c/r from an aggro reg with 18% rcbet. I have air and float. I think I was starting to get a little frustrated bc he was 3betting me a lot preflop and he doesn't like to fold postflop. The problem with my float is that he isn't shutting down after I call. So I either need to 3b the flop or just fold. 7bb
- BVB v a diff aggro reg. I have AdQx and cbet on T46dd. Reg makes a small raise. I call. turn is Ko, he barrels smallish. I fold. i think given my history with this reg and his flop sizing that he is extremely likely to have a hand like AT otf and I should just be folding. Another case of mild frustration causing me to make a mistake early in the hand. Luckily I fold turn bc I kind of already knew I made a mistake on flop. 5bb
- Playing hu vs a villain who seemed to be a little aggro fishy but could have been a TAG overadjusting to hu (a lot of 6m regs do). He opens, i flat JTo. J76 flop. I c/c. Turn T . I c/c again. I talked this one through with a friend of mine and I agree with him that leading turn is better because villain will take free equity a lot here. River A and he bets 1/2pot. I call, he shows AK . But I still prefer leading turn and river myself. 20bb of potentially missed value
- I minopen AK otb, reg 3bets to 7bb, I 4b to 17bb, he flats. 226 flop. 35bb in pot, 75bb effective stacks. I cbet 1/3pot. I'm vbetting. I think I getting floated by every worse A high here as well as some other worse hands. 1/3 is my standard size in this spot. My plan was to cbet flop, chk most turns and possibly catch a river bluff from his hero floats. I cbet, he calls. Turn is 9 . Thought this was an interesting card. We have a bit over 1psb left. I could change my plan here and b/c 1/3p. Or I can continue with my original plan. I check, River is 7 . Villain checks, I check back. I win (network doesn;t let us see his hand). I can't help but feel like I missed value in my play here somewhere. I dont think he calls a turn jam with worse Ax. But I still think I should do something different in this spot. Maybe bet flop a bit larger so I can value jam turns with a smaller bet? ???bb
- Fish limps the button. I check 78s from BB bc I have no info on fish at all except that he limped button and bs raising 78 there can put me in some tricky spots that I want reads/history to navigate thru. AK9 . I lead, he minraises, i call. 3 turn. He bets 2/3, I call. (should c/r here) River 3 . I check and he tanks and bets 2/3p again. I was trying to think to myself if the average button limper could have hands like AK or A9 and play them this way and then call a river raise. I was torn between flatting and raise/folding. I end up flatting, expecting the average button limper to be pretty polarized. He shows 24 which sucked a little, bc he def isnt folding to my raise. But I don't dislike my river player. I dislike my flat on the turn rather than raising there and betting river myself. Villain is going to check back a lot of rivers, and even if he does bet rivers, it will be in a much smaller pot than i want. potentially 50bb worth of missed value
- Made a thin 5b shove with AQ. Villain minopens utg, fish flats otb, I sq from BB. Villain 4bets. Fish folds. I jam. Gameflow across several tables just kind of told me this villain was ready to play back at me. And I think he correctly assumes that I would value 3b here very wide to isolate the fish so he would have a wider than usual 4bet bluffing range here. I would really have to do the math here to know if this jam is +ev or not. He has to be folding a lot, that I know for sure. ???bb


2. Evaluate your play (Mental and Technical)
Technical Game: 7/10 - I made many plays that were less than optimal. Specifically, I need to work on my betsizing. I have been playing more tables than I normally do and I get a bit lazy and just click the 2/3 button a lot. There is much room for improvement here.
Mental Game: 7/10 - I was extremely focused all the way through. I do think that I gave in to a bit of winners tilt at some point and made a few loose preflop calls that are -ev. But I don't think I got too far out of line.

3. Take note of anything you did particularly well
I made the one big hero call. Those always feel nice. I also kept myself in check at the beginning of the session where I tend to come in 'guns blazing' too often. I also was very on point with my range analysis on a few regs and I made many very solid plays that included good bluff catches, good bluffs, and even a few good check backs rather than bluff.

4. Take notes on how the regulars played
Made several notes on one reg that I held over quite a bit today. He has a tendency to try to rep big hands on turns when he would have played those hands differently otf.
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11-05-2012 , 09:03 AM
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This is a very recent development for me. I've generally considered by ability not to tilt one of my greater strengths in poker. But for some reason it's been one of my biggest weaknesses lately.
This is a relatively new stake you are playing no?(if its not then ignore me)

Some of the issue can be because you are not certain you can beat this new game(I mean everyone that knows you knows you can, and probably 95% of you deep down knows it too). This uncertainty leads to anxiety whenever you have a close decision and lose the pot.

I only mention this because you say tilt is new for you. So there has to be a reason why its happening now. As you know I have similar issues atm, reading Jareds book helped me to pinpoint this.

Dealing with it is a whole other matter, GLGL.
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11-05-2012 , 09:05 AM
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- Reg minraises BTN, reg flats SB, I overcall K7. 864 flop. BTN cbets, SB flats, I c/r 3.5x. BTN flats, SB folds. A turn, I barrel 1/2p.
Interested to know if 1/2 pot is your standard sizing to barrel on the turn after x/r? I swear it doesn't let you jam river 100bb deep.
I tend to nearly always go 75%+ pot but it gets a ridiculous amount of folds so maybe I should adjust it exploitably.
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11-05-2012 , 09:09 AM
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This is a relatively new stake you are playing no?(if its not then ignore me)

Some of the issue can be because you are not certain you can beat this new game(I mean everyone that knows you knows you can, and probably 95% of you deep down knows it too). This uncertainty leads to anxiety whenever you have a close decision and lose the pot.

I only mention this because you say tilt is new for you. So there has to be a reason why its happening now. As you know I have similar issues atm, reading Jareds book helped me to pinpoint this.

Dealing with it is a whole other matter, GLGL.
Keep reading past the first few posts and I start to pin down some of the reasons for the tilt. I'm definitely better about it than I was at the start of this thread. Still work to do on it tho. As well as improving other aspects of my mental game.

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Interested to know if 1/2 pot is your standard sizing to barrel on the turn after x/r? I swear it doesn't let you jam river 100bb deep.
I tend to nearly always go 75%+ pot but it gets a ridiculous amount of folds so maybe I should adjust it exploitably.
Well I would normally bet a larger amount but the pot was a bit inflated by his cbet sizing and the caller in the middle. So if I had bet any larger I end up with a 1/2p river bet left instead of a 2/3p river bet like I wanted.
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11-05-2012 , 09:50 AM
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Keep reading past the first few posts and I start to pin down some of the reasons for the tilt. I'm definitely better about it than I was at the start of this thread. Still work to do on it tho. As well as improving other aspects of my mental game.


Yea, read up now, lol
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11-05-2012 , 03:58 PM
Ηi skraper, nice thread.

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- I open AA from MP. fishy SB call, BB overcalls. AKQ flop. I cbet, fish flats, BB c/r, everyone calls. Turn 9. BB barrels, I call, fish folds. River bricks. Villain barrels again and I fold. I think there is basically no chance villain has worse for value here (he wouldnt play any set or most 2 pair this way preflop, and his 2 pair hands prob wouldn't play this strongly) and its an insane spot for him to c/r bluff (with like KJ or KT) and then barrel off. He just has to have JT. Pretty happy with my play in this hand. 0bb
Villain bb is obv unknown but I think that if he's a bit passive pre, there are enuff combos of KQ and AQ that can easily play that way to make the river call profitable. I haven't played higher than 100nl tho, maybe in your games ppl on bb rarely flat pre there with strong hands.
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11-05-2012 , 04:19 PM
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Ηi skraper, nice thread.



Villain bb is obv unknown but I think that if he's a bit passive pre, there are enuff combos of KQ and AQ that can easily play that way to make the river call profitable. I haven't played higher than 100nl tho, maybe in your games ppl on bb rarely flat pre there with strong hands.
i'd be inclined to say that it is more likely he plays TT this way than KQ, and i shouldn't have to tell you that "never" happens.
AQ is a pretty unlikely holding as hero holds AA, but i guess that it could be in villain's range. hardly enough to warrant a call, though.
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11-06-2012 , 11:17 PM


Another solid session moneywise. I feel like I played too loose overall this session tho. Spew review should be interesting.

1. Spew Review
- I 3b/5b KQ vs a reg. He snapped with AK. I need him to be folding to my jam about half the time to make my jam breakeven. I think he will be 4b bluffing here quite often but he only open 18% from the CO over the sample I have on him. So he'd need to be turning a large portion of his opening range into 4b bluffs which is tough given that a lot of his hands are strong enough to flat the 3b. I think he probably folds something like 40% of the time in reality. Making my shove -19bb ev which is a pretty large mistake. i think this mistake is somewhat mitigated by the fact that this reg will now think i am crazy and play more face-up but with widened value ranges vs me in these spots in the future. So I will adjust by just showing him the nuts and let him think its a 'cooler' every time I show him JJ+/AK when we get it all in.
- 100nl vs a complete unknow, but preseumed reg based on his stack size and preflop sizing. I flat a 3b IP w AA assuming that on avg when an unknown 3bets an unknown its a bluff way more often than a stackable hand. flop is K83 I have no diamond. he cbets 1/2pot. tI opted to just jam as I think I get called by any Kx with a diamond any Ad and potentially worse PP with a diamond. In retrospect, I can probably just call flop and play turns really well IP. I dont think my play is spew at all but prob it isn't optimal. 15bb??
- This hand requires some history to explain. The hand immediately previos to this I open 89 otb. Bad reg flats BB. I cbet J74 , he calls. Turn 3 I barrel and he c/r small. Given my history with villain I think he is bluffing here an incredibly high frequency. I decide that the best play is to float his c/r and either bet if he checks river or jam over a river bet if he bets. So I float. River T so I bink my gutshot. He bet 2/3p and I opt to flat thinking he is pretty polarized here and doesn't have hands that can call a jam (since i expected to be able to bluff jam rivers succesfully). He shows 22 and berated me heavily in chat.
- The hand in question is the very next hand. Villain has not topped off (happens sometimes with this software) and starts with about 70bb. He minraise bvb, I flat IP J5. He cbets J85 , I raise 3.5x his cbet. he snap call. Turn is 4 and he snap jams for 2.5x pot. I call. He shows 67 . I'm not sure about this hand tbh. He was clearly tilting given the speed of his actions and the way he talked in chat and how he played this hand, but it possible that I should still be folding turn. Interested to here some ppl's thoughts on this hand. possibly 50bb?
- I open jam vs a 25bb stake bvb w 33. I think this is obviously +ev, but I sometimes run into fish who refuse to rebuy HU and dwindle down to thise stack size and I was curious to see what jamming range was going to be +ev vs them. If I assign them a calling range of the top 30% of hands (all pairs, all Ax, all broadways, some SCs and K9s types), I can be jamming the top 26% of hands profitably. But Some of those jams are only profitable before rake, with rake taken into account it's probably closer to the top 21% of hands.
- Reg has been getting clearly frystrated with me as i have been running him over thru a combination of good play and a good run of cards. He has been 3betting me over and over very wide and I have been doing a good job of navigating postflop spots against him. I open QT otb, he 3bets from the BB and I flat. This is significantly looser than I would normally peel here, but he was getting very out of line and I think QT dominates a fair bit of his 3betting range. 894 flop. Villain snap checks. I check back bc this check is extremely out of character for him and it smells like he is c/jamming a ton. Turn 5 . He snap checks again. My gut still says to take the free card here, but i decide to stab anyway with all the equity I have. Villain snap calls. River bricks off and we both check. Villain shows JJ . Which mean my instinct was pretty dead on here. 10bb
- I minopen the button which has been my standard at this particular table. Villain 3bets for the 5th or 6th time in as many orbits. I opt to flat with AQ to trap. 4betting is definitely reasonable but given my minopen and his 3b being only to 7bb I am a bit uncomfortable getting stacks in with AQ. 784r flop. Villain cbets. I float. Turn 3o. Villain barrels. I fold. I dislike my flop float without a plan to either double float or raise turn or something. This villain is basically never going to check the turn. Not sure exactly what is the best play. But the way I played it is def not good.



2. Evaluate your play (Mental and Technical)
Technical Game: 8/10 - Made some mistakes here and there but I think I played very well overall.
Mental Game: 7/10 - I was focused and my instincts were pretty dead on throughout the whole session. I do think that in both this session and the last session I suffered from just a bit of winners tilt and made sveral too loose peels preflop both to 3bets and to open raises. I will have to work on this.

3. Take note of anything you did particularly well
I played a very aggro reg HU. He was 3betting about 30% and when he flatted he was check raising about 50% of flops. He got out to an early lead vs me but I was able to adjust rather quickly. I started limping buttons and he would just raise OOP with a wide range (prob the same range that he was 3betting with). This allowed me to keep the pots a bit smaller and more manageable. Once I started limping I was able to run over him for the next few hundred hands until the table started filling. I spoke to a good friend who plays a lot of HU and he thinks another way to adjust would be to tighten up opening range otb (ldo) and never fold to any 3bets at all and start raising a lot of turns. I think this a very reasonable strategy as well but would be extremely high variance and goes very much against the type of game I am comfortable playing. This reg is comfortable slinging stacks around and if I were to adjust by trying to out aggro him, I remove my self from my comfort zone and put myself into his. I think its very likely he would have an edge over me if I tried to play this style vs him. (At least for several hundred, possibly thousand hands while I attempted to re-acclimate myself).

4. Take notes on how the regulars played
Took several notes on some regulars who showed up with interesting hands that I would not have put in their ranges. A very tight 3bettor 3bet me and ended up at showdown with K4s which means that he is very likely to be 3betting only the super nuts and bluffs and almost never 3betting extended value hands like AQ/AJ/KQ/TT etc. Definitely worth noting.
Also I have noticed many regs c/r on turn to rep turned flushes and I have to be shown a flush when they do raise the turn. It's still a small sample, but i think its kind of obv now that I think about it. Many of these guys have high flop raises and would raise nearly all their FDs on the flop so when they raise the turn on the flush card its going to be a made hand turned into a bluff an extremely high % of the time.
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