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Old 11-01-2011, 03:04 PM   #76
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Re: BEATING DAMN MICROS!!! Thats a goal i believe..

the QQ hand, i think its ok to call or fold....unlikely he is doing this with AA or KK, so probably AK or JJ, but i dont mind a call or fold, depending on the opponent!
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Old 11-01-2011, 03:58 PM   #77
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Re: BEATING DAMN MICROS!!! Thats a goal i believe..

its never a fold with QQ there
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Old 11-01-2011, 04:08 PM   #78
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Re: BEATING DAMN MICROS!!! Thats a goal i believe..

fair enough, most likely a call, because he has just shoved way over the top into just a raise preflop! but i dont mind a fold, he only has 3bb invested on the 2nd hand, so he can fold and not feel too bad about it. i myself have open shoved AA and KK at these stakes when i know people will call, because its sometimes better than getting into a pot against like 5 opponents, but with QQ he not gonna be behind most times
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Old 11-01-2011, 04:12 PM   #79
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Re: BEATING DAMN MICROS!!! Thats a goal i believe..

folding is awful, if people are stupid enough to 3b jam there stupid enough to do it with 22
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Old 11-01-2011, 04:16 PM   #80
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Re: BEATING DAMN MICROS!!! Thats a goal i believe..

not really, because your only gonna get called by something way ahead of you with A10! just from my own experiences at 10nl/5nl, i dont mind folding in a cash game with just 3bb invested, and just outplay the opponents! like i said though, its unlikely he his behind there most times, so most likely a call! but i dont mind i fold
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Old 11-01-2011, 06:49 PM   #81
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not really, because your only gonna get called by something way ahead of you with A10! just from my own experiences at 10nl/5nl, i dont mind folding in a cash game with just 3bb invested, and just outplay the opponents! like i said though, its unlikely he his behind there most times, so most likely a call! but i dont mind i fold
In a vacuum, QQ is a very standard 4-bet/call. Folding a hand that is in the top 1.5% of your range is extremely -EV, even if once in a while he will have AA/KK or outdraw us.
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Old 11-01-2011, 09:06 PM   #82
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Re: BEATING DAMN MICROS!!! Thats a goal i believe..

VPIP/PFR pretty low, over 20 hands, 3bet 0%.. i got confused when he checks the flop and folds the turn..

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

SB: $3.02
BB: $2.07
Hero (UTG): $5.24
MP: $5.96
CO: $4.25
BTN: $14.71

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero has A K

Hero raises to $0.15, MP raises to $0.50, CO calls $0.50, fold, fold, BB calls $0.45, Hero calls $0.35

Flop: ($2.02, 4 players) 6 3 6
BB checks, Hero checks, MP checks, CO checks

Turn: ($2.02, 4 players) A
BB checks, Hero bets $1.44, fold, CO calls $1.44, fold

River: ($4.90, 2 players) 7
Hero bets $3.30 and is all-in, CO calls $2.31 and is all-in

Hero shows A K (Two Pair, Aces and Sixes) (PreFlop 74%, Flop 77%, Turn 90%)
CO shows Q A (Two Pair, Aces and Sixes) (PreFlop 26%, Flop 23%, Turn 10%)
Hero wins $9.06
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Old 11-01-2011, 09:08 PM   #83
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Re: BEATING DAMN MICROS!!! Thats a goal i believe..

Standart:

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

SB: $4.47
Hero (BB): $5.00
UTG: $3.42
MP: $7.94
CO: $14.50
BTN: $9.87

SB posts SB $0.02, Hero posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero has 6 6

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to $0.15, fold, Hero calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.32, 2 players) J 3 J
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.15, Hero raises to $0.45, fold

Hero wins $0.59
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Old 11-01-2011, 09:18 PM   #84
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Re: BEATING DAMN MICROS!!! Thats a goal i believe..

Why is it standart?
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Old 11-01-2011, 09:24 PM   #85
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20 hands is nothing don't look at stats for 20 hands. 4b the ak and call if he shoves
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Old 11-01-2011, 10:08 PM   #86
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20 hands is nothing don't look at stats for 20 hands. 4b the ak and call if he shoves
ty for advice, here is bad beat i got finally was running pretty bad hand after hand on this table decided to leave and pick ups 7s, when i so the flop and donk checks i was pretty sure he got the Js, but when he bets big on th turn i thought hopefully he got Aces or Qeens there, imight raised a bit hard there, but still, i cant fold this after the turn it would be all in anyway:

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Hero (UTG): $7.00
MP: $3.37
CO: $3.24
BTN: $4.89
SB: $5.00
BB: $2.31

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero has 7 7

Hero raises to $0.15, MP raises to $0.30, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.15

Flop: ($0.67, 2 players) J 8 5
Hero checks, MP checks

Turn: ($0.67, 2 players) 7
Hero checks, MP bets $0.70, Hero raises to $2.25, MP raises to $3.07 and is all-in, Hero calls $0.82

River: ($6.81, 2 players) K

Hero shows 7 7 (Three of a Kind, Sevens) (PreFlop 19%, Flop 5%, Turn 2%)
MP shows J J (Three of a Kind, Jacks) (PreFlop 81%, Flop 95%, Turn 98%)
MP wins $6.48
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Old 11-01-2011, 10:12 PM   #87
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Why is it standart?
Why not?
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Old 11-01-2011, 11:14 PM   #88
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Re: BEATING DAMN MICROS!!! Thats a goal i believe..

Why don't you just call the flop on the 66 hand? You have good showdown value and you're turning it into a bluff, you're not repping much on this board and it's unnecessary.
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Old 11-01-2011, 11:31 PM   #89
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Why don't you just call the flop on the 66 hand? You have good showdown value and you're turning it into a bluff, you're not repping much on this board and it's unnecessary.
1st, the guy was passive and he defo had A, K or Q in his hand, the reason i turn it on to a bluff as i dont want him to hit and commit myself to the pot which i could lose after, because if he hit the turn i have to check and lose anyway, or turn it in to a bluff on the turn and there is less chances he is going to fold, so i think i played it well enough in my own way
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Old 11-01-2011, 11:32 PM   #90
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PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BB: $4.00
UTG: $7.64
MP: $3.47
Hero (CO): $4.99
BTN: $3.13
SB: $12.96

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero has K A

fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.15, BTN raises to $3.13 and is all-in, fold, fold, Hero calls $2.98

Flop: ($6.33, 2 players) J K 8

Turn: ($6.33, 2 players) 4

River: ($6.33, 2 players) 3

Hero shows K A (One Pair, Kings) (PreFlop 64%, Flop 82%, Turn 91%)
BTN shows 9 7 (High Card, King) (PreFlop 36%, Flop 18%, Turn 9%)
Hero wins $6.02
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Old 11-01-2011, 11:34 PM   #91
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PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Hero (CO): $5.05
BTN: $3.97
SB: $4.02
BB: $4.51
UTG: $2.62
MP: $6.08

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero has A A

fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.15, BTN calls $0.15, SB raises to $0.30, fold, Hero raises to $1.00, fold, SB raises to $2.00, Hero raises to $5.05 and is all-in, SB calls $2.02 and is all-in

Flop: ($8.24, 2 players) 5 T 6

Turn: ($8.24, 2 players) 3

River: ($8.24, 2 players) J

SB shows Q Q (One Pair, Queens) (PreFlop 18%, Flop 8%, Turn 5%)
Hero shows A A (One Pair, Aces) (PreFlop 82%, Flop 92%, Turn 95%)
Hero wins $7.83
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Old 11-01-2011, 11:52 PM   #92
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Re: BEATING DAMN MICROS!!! Thats a goal i believe..

He can also have worse PP's in his range. And even if you just call flop he only has like 16% chance to hit a K/Q/A on future streets. I'd much more prefer to give him the opportunity to bluff on the turn or the river with his high cards and random stuff. If you're gonna raise these flops (which is stupid) you should use better hands to do it with, you're only drawing to 2 outs whenever he calls, and you're only isolating yourself against a range that beats you.
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Old 11-02-2011, 12:00 AM   #93
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He can also have worse PP's in his range. And even if you just call flop he only has like 16% chance to hit a K/Q/A on future streets. I'd much more prefer to give him the opportunity to bluff on the turn or the river with his high cards and random stuff. If you're gonna raise these flops (which is stupid) you should use better hands to do it with, you're only drawing to 2 outs whenever he calls, and you're only isolating yourself against a range that beats you.
Thanks for yr opinion m8, but i was sure i am going to lose with this if i dont check/raise, so result is good from bb for me. And if you think it's stupid, play it clever then yrself ok? Everyone playing diffrent poker in diffrent situations no need to say stupid, unless you owned wsop at least ones..

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Old 11-02-2011, 08:49 AM   #94
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Standart:

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

SB: $4.47
Hero (BB): $5.00
UTG: $3.42
MP: $7.94
CO: $14.50
BTN: $9.87

SB posts SB $0.02, Hero posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero has 6 6

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to $0.15, fold, Hero calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.32, 2 players) J 3 J
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.15, Hero raises to $0.45, fold

Hero wins $0.59
Interesting hand.

Would you c/r with any pocket pair?
Would you c/r with A high?
Would you c/r with Jx?

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Old 11-02-2011, 12:29 PM   #95
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Interesting hand.

Would you c/r with any pocket pair?
Would you c/r with A high?
Would you c/r with Jx?

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Would you c/r with any pocket pair? YES
Would you c/r with A high? Yes if kicker is good enough e.g. AQ but i think i would 3bet BTN with AQ so YES only say if Axs with flush draw.
Would you c/r with Jx? NO I wouldnt call with Jx only call J8s,J9s,JTo,QJo,KJo,AJo

The orther thing, it was raise from BTN, i wouldn't c/r with UTG or MP, just call and see what happens next, also depends on what HUD is showing..

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Old 11-02-2011, 01:01 PM   #96
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Re: BEATING DAMN MICROS!!! Thats a goal i believe..

Good stuff, thanks, that's very useful to know.
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Old 11-02-2011, 09:27 PM   #97
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Good stuff, thanks, that's very useful to know.
Thanks if you think it's useful
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Old 11-02-2011, 11:55 PM   #98
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PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BTN: $3.93
Hero (SB): $9.08
BB: $2.57
UTG: $4.34
CO: $5.90

Hero posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero has 2 2

UTG raises to $0.15, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.13, BB calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.45, 3 players) 7 9 A
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks

Turn: ($0.45, 3 players) 2
Hero checks, BB bets $0.15, UTG calls $0.15, Hero raises to $0.81, BB calls $0.66, UTG calls $0.66

River: ($2.88, 3 players) 7
Hero bets $8.12 and is all-in, BB calls $1.61 and is all-in, fold

Hero shows 2 2 (Full House, Twos full of Sevens) (PreFlop 53%, Flop 9%, Turn 100%)
BB shows A K (Two Pair, Aces and Sevens) (PreFlop 47%, Flop 91%, Turn 0%)
Hero wins $5.81

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

MP: $2.85
Hero (CO): $8.63
BTN: $6.02
SB: $5.00
BB: $5.18
UTG: $7.07

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero has 2 2

fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.15, BTN calls $0.15, fold, BB calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.47, 3 players) K A 5
BB checks, Hero bets $0.35, fold, BB calls $0.35

Turn: ($1.17, 2 players) 2
BB checks, Hero bets $0.80, BB calls $0.80

River: ($2.77, 2 players) 3
BB checks, Hero bets $2.00, BB calls $2.00

Hero shows 2 2 (Three of a Kind, Twos) (PreFlop 52%, Flop 10%, Turn 100%)
BB mucks Q A (One Pair, Aces) (PreFlop 48%, Flop 90%, Turn 0%)
Hero wins $6.44
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Old 11-03-2011, 07:30 PM   #99
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YO YO YO!!! Anyone around still? Will update later today BR and graphs...

No milestone hand yet though
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Todays special:

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

SB: $4.08
BB: $7.42
UTG: $4.98
Hero (CO): $11.35
BTN: $4.18

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero has K A

UTG raises to $0.15, Hero raises to $0.45, fold, SB calls $0.43, fold, fold

Flop: ($1.10, 2 players) 4 K 5
SB checks, Hero bets $0.75, SB calls $0.75

Turn: ($2.60, 2 players) 9
SB bets $2.88 and is all-in, Hero calls $2.88

River: ($8.36, 2 players) 3

SB shows 3 4 (Two Pair, Fours and Threes) (PreFlop 39%, Flop 25%, Turn 11%)
Hero shows K A (One Pair, Kings) (PreFlop 61%, Flop 75%, Turn 89%)
SB wins $7.95

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