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10-30-2011 , 09:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Craigio
why do you check the turn? you should be betting for value here, only a 6 is beating you, and he would reraise the flop if he had that.

You seem to be checking a lot of the time when you are very strong, such as the AA hand earlier v jj, if he has QQ or KK in that pot, its just a cooler, you have to bet the flop and turn, and then when K hits the river, your gonna be commited, so if he has QQ or KK, you got unlucky, but least you tried to get value.

and when you shove with the AK, $5 into a $.70 pot, i dont understand that, because nothing can call you, unless they certainly have you beat, so its kinda pointless, just betting for value would be better because you will have the best hand most times anyway
Yeah turn check is a big mistake, but another opp. involved might also played slow play trips who damn knows, anyway i should have bet, still got no idea why i did check. About AA he calls 4bet usually ppl call it only with QQ KK or AA so when i so Q on the flop it stops me a bit, because he is good actually tight player with green numbers, so i decided to see what he is going to do, he might thought the same actually QQ KK or AA so ok we past the turn i bet a bit he calls and check river, he could also check his set keeping in mind that i play slow QQ, all this mess happend because it was 4bet, but still usually with AA i am ready to go all the way no matter what, but this is the reason of this mistake - 4bet Q and K on the board. And about AK shove, u r right, nothing but idiots!!! and he was an idiot so he did a call and i knew he is going to do it.
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10-30-2011 , 09:11 PM
Here is another joke with two pairs, it was a good call by me for open str8 i mean odds was good ..for the fish..me of course and against him implied odds 90% superb like, so no value bet or nuts checking, push all in qiuckly against the fish, he might think u hit just Ace and qiuckly calls, he did, if i value bet, he calls value bet, so it was right i think to push:

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

UTG: $3.66
MP: $4.93
CO: $4.53
BTN: $5.41
SB: $6.46
Hero (BB): $5.55

SB posts SB $0.02, Hero posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero has T Q

fold, fold, CO calls $0.05, BTN raises to $0.20, fold, Hero calls $0.15, CO calls $0.15

Flop: ($0.62, 3 players) J 3 K
Hero checks, CO checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($0.62, 3 players) 7
Hero checks, CO bets $0.05, BTN raises to $0.30, Hero calls $0.30, CO calls $0.25

River: ($1.52, 3 players) A
Hero bets $5.05 and is all-in, fold, BTN calls $4.91 and is all-in

Hero shows T Q (Straight, Ace High) (PreFlop 37%, Flop 30%, Turn 18%)
BTN shows K J (Two Pair, Kings and Jacks) (PreFlop 63%, Flop 70%, Turn 82%)
Hero wins $10.78

Last edited by DREAM333R; 10-30-2011 at 09:18 PM. Reason: I call it big blind special :D
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10-30-2011 , 09:14 PM
Someone mention it before, when u have the nuts, push all in ppl calling it at micros with two pairs or top pair, even damn mid pair. The thingy is you need to spot this ppl. For some value bet, for some push all in.

Just an opinion i am still learning, but i got a call on my nuts pretty often i must say..
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10-30-2011 , 09:18 PM
with AA, you just got to raise flop and he will reraise you with QQ or KK there anyway, and your just gonna have to pay it off if he has QQ, most times you will get it in good though, so make money in the long run!

last hand, dont really like the shove, because so far he hasnt showed that he has hit the hand too much, he checked the flop and only half bet the turn! so maybe a pot bet on the river, hoping he calls or reraises you with 2 pair!
but he calls it anyway, so nice pot
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10-30-2011 , 09:20 PM
yeah SOME people will pay you off when you shove way over the top! so it only needs to work like once in 3 times that you make the $5-$6, rather than the raise of $2! so its not too bad play, and it can also look a bit weird, making the donkey want to call more
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10-30-2011 , 09:24 PM
Exactly, i am catching those bluffers over the pot bets or a pot bet on the flop as well, usually when i am on bb vs sm.b. It's always look weird when someone shoves, bets big, is like someone punch you in a face and you wanna punch him back lol, so thats why too many donks caaaall...... Some ppl trying to bluff this way, but they got no idea how should the board look to bluff someone off. I did few times as well, but it's matter of time to learn for me, i'm only play cash games about 3 month like, still learning though
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10-30-2011 , 09:26 PM
Here is good example he hit a a top pair bets over the pot see what happens:

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

SB: $5.00
Hero (BB): $5.00
UTG: $1.93
MP: $1.67
CO: $6.15
BTN: $4.19

SB posts SB $0.02, Hero posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero has 6 A

fold, MP calls $0.05, fold, fold, fold, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.12, 2 players) 6 4 K
Hero checks, MP bets $0.15, Hero raises to $0.45, MP raises to $1.62 and is all-in, Hero calls $1.17

Turn: ($3.36, 2 players) 5

River: ($3.36, 2 players) 7

Hero shows 6 A (Flush, Ace High) (PreFlop 62%, Flop 52%, Turn 100%)
MP shows 8 K (Straight, Eight High) (PreFlop 38%, Flop 48%, Turn 0%)
Hero wins $3.20

My thoughts, i got nut flush draw + mid pair which can improve as well plus ace from space is kinda likely, + he is low stack, i took him on all in.. he got a str8 though
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10-30-2011 , 09:31 PM
that hand just played it self once the flop hit! he is short stacked, so he isnt gonna fold his top pair there ever!! so the money was going all in anyway! nothing special about that hand, other than the donkey is limping k8 from mp for reasons i do not know
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10-30-2011 , 09:40 PM
Lets discuss this hand, my thought:

BTN is low stack, SB might had JT or KJ or what ever with the J, so because i was an opener i reraise the flop with top pair no matter there was a flush draw and see what happens, so both calls, both fishhing, look the flop SB bets, so he defo had a Jack, BTN fish calls prob a flush draw but he is small stack i dont mind about him, lets see how SB behave he call reraise, so next is an Ace from space nice card!!! i decided to bluff with big kinda bet to isolate SB or BTN who ever had a pair, obvious nobody got ace, or may be btn got it? he just calls..no! so he is 100% a flush draw+a str8 draw actually as well, SB folds, yeah he fold his Jack could be even the best hand or may be same as mine or may be i am all wrong here, but i think i outplayed perfectly well and got a bit lucky BTN never hit what he need to, here is a full hand:

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

SB: $4.14
BB: $6.07
UTG: $2.87
Hero (CO): $8.58
BTN: $2.81

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero has Q J

fold, Hero raises to $0.15, BTN calls $0.15, SB calls $0.13, BB calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.60, 4 players) J 3 2
SB bets $0.20, fold, Hero raises to $0.92, BTN calls $0.92, SB calls $0.72

Turn: ($3.36, 3 players) A
SB checks, Hero bets $2.40, BTN calls $1.74 and is all-in, fold

River: ($6.84, 2 players) 4

Hero shows Q J (One Pair, Jacks) (PreFlop 60%, Flop 53%, Turn 73%)
BTN shows 6 4 (One Pair, Fours) (PreFlop 40%, Flop 47%, Turn 27%)
Hero wins $6.51
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10-30-2011 , 09:44 PM
PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

SB: $5.00
BB: $5.07
UTG: $6.13
CO: $4.04
Hero (BTN): $7.01

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero has K J

fold, CO raises to $0.15, Hero raises to $0.45, fold, fold, fold

Hero wins $0.37

All depends who is on CO
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10-30-2011 , 09:46 PM
How about this one, i was like wtf when i saw the showdown oO

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

CO: $1.54
BTN: $11.69
SB: $2.31
Hero (BB): $4.93
UTG: $6.11

SB posts SB $0.02, Hero posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero has 8 K

fold, fold, fold, SB calls $0.03, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.10, 2 players) 4 3 8
SB bets $0.10, Hero calls $0.10

Turn: ($0.30, 2 players) 9
SB bets $0.10, Hero calls $0.10

River: ($0.50, 2 players) K
SB bets $0.10, Hero raises to $0.61, SB calls $0.51

Hero shows 8 K (Two Pair, Kings and Eights) (PreFlop 27%, Flop 20%, Turn 11%)
SB mucks J J (One Pair, Jacks) (PreFlop 73%, Flop 80%, Turn 89%)
Hero wins $1.64
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10-30-2011 , 09:54 PM
KJs hand, who is CO?
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10-30-2011 , 10:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Back off Kiddo
KJs hand, who is CO?
I mean what kind of stats CO-cutoff has. In Harrington book about 6max online it says about how you can 3bet CO on BTN with any 2 as in 75% he is going to fold his hand, that means in long term you will make money only if blinds are fold as well! so need to be carefull here who is on blinds and who is on CO. I am still not doing it with any two, but with sc i do sometimes, coz its also gives u a chance to hit even if he calls..
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10-30-2011 , 10:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DREAM333R
I mean what kind of stats CO-cutoff has. In Harrington book about 6max online it says about how you can 3bet CO on BTN with any 2 as in 75% he is going to fold his hand, that means in long term you will make money only if blinds are fold as well! so need to be carefull here who is on blinds and who is on CO. I am still not doing it with any two, but with sc i do sometimes, coz its also gives u a chance to hit even if he calls..
This is good j
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10-31-2011 , 02:28 PM
Is this ok to call?

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BB: $3.24
Hero (UTG): $5.30
MP: $3.73
CO: $3.96
BTN: $6.42
SB: $5.00

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero has Q Q

Hero raises to $0.15, fold, fold, fold, fold, BB raises to $3.24 and is all-in, Hero calls $3.09

Flop: ($6.50, 2 players) A K 6

Turn: ($6.50, 2 players) A

River: ($6.50, 2 players) 7

BB shows A K (Full House, Aces full of Kings) (PreFlop 44%, Flop 90%, Turn 100%)
Hero shows Q Q (Two Pair, Aces and Queens) (PreFlop 56%, Flop 10%, Turn 0%)
BB wins $6.18
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10-31-2011 , 02:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DREAM333R
Sometimes it's working the slowplaying, against specific opponent.. And about fancy moves, when you got a nuts and push all they call you amazingly well at this stakes...
slowplay never ever works at micros. end of story. stop slowplaying if you want to move past micros.

glgl
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10-31-2011 , 03:10 PM
Ty, micros is for ppl with good nerves...
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10-31-2011 , 03:13 PM
you can do it! takes decipline
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10-31-2011 , 04:32 PM
Should have fold 3bet but vs BB mmm nope, i dont, flop = flush draw, turn = flush and str8 draw=just call, river = check the nuts. He played his set bad i think, if i check/raise the flop i would put myself in to trouble, coz his stack was ok as well, so i just call, smooth fish calls paid off anyway:

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BTN: $4.54
Hero (SB): $13.47
BB: $11.43
UTG: $5.13
CO: $3.93

Hero posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero has J 8

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.15, BB raises to $0.45, Hero calls $0.30

Flop: ($0.90, 2 players) A 6 T
Hero checks, BB bets $0.43, Hero calls $0.43

Turn: ($1.76, 2 players) 7
Hero checks, BB bets $1.26, Hero calls $1.26

River: ($4.28, 2 players) Q
Hero checks, BB bets $2.03, Hero raises to $11.33 and is all-in, BB calls $7.26 and is all-in

Hero shows J 8 (Flush, Ace High) (PreFlop 20%, Flop 27%, Turn 23%)
BB shows A A (Three of a Kind, Aces) (PreFlop 80%, Flop 73%, Turn 77%)
Hero wins $21.73
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10-31-2011 , 04:50 PM
Other than his betsizing being a little small, and his river call, I think villain in last hand with set of aces played the hand perfectly. Why do you think he played it bad??

You played the hand very passively though
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10-31-2011 , 05:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Petey 5thStreet
Other than his betsizing being a little small, and his river call, I think villain in last hand with set of aces played the hand perfectly. Why do you think he played it bad??

You played the hand very passively though
i did played passivly because his stack and a set would reraise me if i reraise him i think, but he also might slow play with a call and fire nice bet on the turn, he played it bad because flop bet was small only half a pot like the when i check the river he continue firering half pot again, i even thought he is not going to call alll in compare to his river bet, he should have check behind with flush and str8 board, thats why he played it bad i think..
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10-31-2011 , 05:19 PM
I am sure fish thought i missed the flush draw and my all in was a bluff like, sure he calls with mid pair:

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

UTG: $5.07
CO: $4.92
BTN: $5.52
SB: $5.02
Hero (BB): $5.57

SB posts SB $0.02, Hero posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero has 5 4

fold, fold, BTN raises to $0.12, fold, Hero calls $0.07

Flop: ($0.26, 2 players) 6 7 3
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.15, Hero raises to $0.45, BTN calls $0.30

Turn: ($1.16, 2 players) J
Hero bets $0.75, BTN calls $0.75

River: ($2.66, 2 players) 9
Hero bets $4.25 and is all-in, BTN calls $4.20 and is all-in

Hero shows 5 4 (Straight, Seven High) (PreFlop 18%, Flop 92%, Turn 100%)
BTN shows T T (One Pair, Tens) (PreFlop 82%, Flop 8%, Turn 0%)
Hero wins $10.52
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10-31-2011 , 05:22 PM
Lucky me...

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

MP: $2.56
Hero (CO): $4.83
BTN: $12.50
SB: $8.34
BB: $6.64
UTG: $5.00

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero has 7 7

fold, MP raises to $0.20, Hero calls $0.20, fold, fold, fold

Flop: ($0.47, 2 players) T 9 8
MP bets $0.40, Hero raises to $1.33, MP calls $0.93

Turn: ($3.13, 2 players) 7
MP checks, Hero bets $2.23, MP calls $1.03 and is all-in

River: ($5.19, 2 players) 4

MP shows Q Q (One Pair, Queens) (PreFlop 81%, Flop 74%, Turn 18%)
Hero shows 7 7 (Three of a Kind, Sevens) (PreFlop 19%, Flop 26%, Turn 82%)
Hero wins $4.94
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10-31-2011 , 05:25 PM
Donk bet vs small stack big hand fish:

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

CO: $5.00
BTN: $1.36
SB: $5.52
Hero (BB): $8.31
UTG: $12.70
MP: $3.04

SB posts SB $0.02, Hero posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero has 7 6

UTG calls $0.05, MP raises to $0.15, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.10, UTG calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.47, 3 players) 5 3 4
Hero bets $1.30, fold, MP raises to $2.60, Hero raises to $8.16 and is all-in, MP calls $0.29 and is all-in

Turn: ($6.25, 2 players) 3

River: ($6.25, 2 players) 4

Hero shows 7 6 (Straight, Seven High) (PreFlop 22%, Flop 97%, Turn 91%)
MP shows A A (Two Pair, Aces and Fours) (PreFlop 78%, Flop 3%, Turn 9%)
Hero wins $5.94
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10-31-2011 , 06:58 PM
why donk bet ? in my opinion donk betting is the most ******ed move in poker.. though i cant deny it is a good weapon sometimes to have.... why did you donk bet ? what range didd you give him? what could he call with when you donk bet ? whats the history ? could he believe you bluffed or actually donk betting with a monster?

my advice is you need a really good reason to donk bet and that you dont do it often as you move up in stakes.
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