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Old 11-12-2011, 08:27 PM   #276
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Re: BEATING DAMN MICROS!!! Thats a goal i believe..

Ty, i crashed that table where 87s hand was, same villain and completly destroyed him, he paid me $15 ...
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Old 11-12-2011, 08:52 PM   #277
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Re: BEATING DAMN MICROS!!! Thats a goal i believe..

If villain is very loose (40%+) on the button, I would 3-bet 88 for value. I would also 3-bet if he is a calling station in 3-bet pots. Else I would flat.
87s is ok as a 3-bet bluff. Perso, I would fold it pre.
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Old 11-12-2011, 10:26 PM   #278
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I swear this **** never ends, same villain 1st hand made me angry, 2nd hand killed me completly, i decided to put pressure on him with the bets knowing he is calling any 2, i would never expect this oh oh oh micros stupid micros, how many more of this idiots will be in hand with me...

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Hero (CO): $6.85
BTN: $3.37
SB: $2.16
BB: $5.00
UTG: $2.77

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero has K K

UTG raises to $0.10, Hero raises to $0.35, BTN raises to $0.60, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $6.85 and is all-in, BTN calls $2.77 and is all-in

Flop: ($6.91, 2 players) 2 7 Q

Turn: ($6.91, 2 players) A

River: ($6.91, 2 players) 4

Hero shows K K (One Pair, Kings) (PreFlop 72%, Flop 93%, Turn 25%)
BTN shows 8 A (One Pair, Aces) (PreFlop 28%, Flop 7%, Turn 75%)
BTN wins $6.57


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PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Hero (SB): $7.43
BB: $6.83
UTG: $2.14
CO: $5.00
BTN: $3.03

Hero posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero has Q K

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.15, BB calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.30, 2 players) Q 3 9
Hero bets $0.29, BB calls $0.29

Turn: ($0.88, 2 players) 4
Hero bets $0.84, BB calls $0.84

River: ($2.56, 2 players) 8
Hero bets $2.44, BB calls $2.44

Hero shows Q K (One Pair, Queens) (PreFlop 13%, Flop 19%, Turn 11%)
BB shows A A (One Pair, Aces) (PreFlop 87%, Flop 81%, Turn 89%)
BB wins $7.08

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Old 11-12-2011, 10:38 PM   #279
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I swear this **** never ends, same villain 1st hand made me angry, 2nd hand killed me completly, i decided to put pressure on him with the bets knowing he is calling any 2, i would never expect this oh oh oh micros stupid micros, how many more of this idiots will be in hand with me...

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Hero (CO): $6.85
BTN: $3.37
SB: $2.16
BB: $5.00
UTG: $2.77

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero has K K

UTG raises to $0.10, Hero raises to $0.35, BTN raises to $0.60, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $6.85 and is all-in, BTN calls $2.77 and is all-in

Flop: ($6.91, 2 players) 2 7 Q

Turn: ($6.91, 2 players) A

River: ($6.91, 2 players) 4

Hero shows K K (One Pair, Kings) (PreFlop 72%, Flop 93%, Turn 25%)
BTN shows 8 A (One Pair, Aces) (PreFlop 28%, Flop 7%, Turn 75%)
BTN wins $6.57


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PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Hero (SB): $7.43
BB: $6.83
UTG: $2.14
CO: $5.00
BTN: $3.03

Hero posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero has Q K

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.15, BB calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.30, 2 players) Q 3 9
Hero bets $0.29, BB calls $0.29

Turn: ($0.88, 2 players) 4
Hero bets $0.84, BB calls $0.84

River: ($2.56, 2 players) 8
Hero bets $2.44, BB calls $2.44

Hero shows Q K (One Pair, Queens) (PreFlop 13%, Flop 19%, Turn 11%)
BB shows A A (One Pair, Aces) (PreFlop 87%, Flop 81%, Turn 89%)
BB wins $7.08

Wtf are u crying about? That call in hand 1 is exactly the calls you are looking for. Hand 2 bet less turn, check call/fold river..What u expect getting value from here? You also kill hes chances to bluff any fd or missed stright draws on river.
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Old 11-12-2011, 10:58 PM   #280
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Wtf are u crying about? That call in hand 1 is exactly the calls you are looking for. Hand 2 bet less turn, check call/fold river..What u expect getting value from here? You also kill hes chances to bluff any fd or missed stright draws on river.
I am not crying, it just sick to 4bet with A8o, and like you said u always looking for ppl like him with this hands, but on pokerstars there is always ace from space and i am out. Hand 2 yes you are right, all i was doing is putting pressure on him, damn his VP was 83% and i wanted my KK money back thats why i bet pot pot pot
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Old 11-12-2011, 10:59 PM   #281
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Here is a nice hand, not happens often though...

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Hero (CO): $6.24
BTN: $5.08
SB: $12.31
BB: $2.04
UTG: $4.90
MP: $4.18

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero has T T

fold, MP raises to $0.10, Hero raises to $0.30, fold, fold, fold, MP calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.67, 2 players) K T T
MP checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($0.67, 2 players) A
MP bets $0.20, Hero raises to $0.40, MP raises to $0.70, Hero calls $0.30

River: ($2.07, 2 players) 4
MP bets $1.00, Hero raises to $5.24 and is all-in, MP calls $2.18 and is all-in

Hero shows T T (Four of a Kind, Tens) (PreFlop 55%, Flop 100%, Turn 100%)
MP shows Q J (Straight, Ace High) (PreFlop 45%, Flop 0%, Turn 0%)
Hero wins $8.02
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Old 11-14-2011, 02:34 AM   #282
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Few hands to update with...

This villain played very aggrro, it was between us 2 this time, i watched him carefully on the table, was sure 90% bluffing preflop and postflop...

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

CO: $10.15
BTN: $7.11
Hero (SB): $12.98
BB: $5.22
UTG: $5.00
MP: $5.00

Hero posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero has 9 A

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.15, BB raises to $0.35, Hero calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.70, 2 players) J Q J
Hero checks, BB checks

Turn: ($0.70, 2 players) 3
Hero checks, BB bets $0.40, Hero calls $0.40

River: ($1.50, 2 players) 3
Hero checks, BB bets $1.40, Hero calls $1.40

BB shows 5 K (Two Pair, Jacks and Threes) (PreFlop 37%, Flop 23%, Turn 14%)
Hero shows 9 A (Two Pair, Jacks and Threes) (PreFlop 63%, Flop 77%, Turn 86%)
Hero wins $4.09

...

I believe he had aces and raises minimum to invite more ppl or a 3bet, since it's a minimum i decided to see a flop, strange bet on the river though, and even more strange is his fold

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Hero (BB): $7.17
UTG: $12.97
MP: $3.85
CO: $5.00
BTN: $5.10
SB: $5.49

SB posts SB $0.02, Hero posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero has J 8

UTG raises to $0.10, MP calls $0.10, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.05

Flop: ($0.32, 3 players) J 2 J
Hero checks, UTG bets $0.15, MP raises to $0.30, Hero calls $0.30, UTG raises to $0.45, MP calls $0.15, Hero calls $0.15

Turn: ($1.67, 3 players) 3
Hero checks, UTG bets $1.15, fold, Hero calls $1.15

River: ($3.97, 2 players) T
Hero checks, UTG bets $4.10, Hero raises to $5.47 and is all-in, fold

Hero wins $11.58
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Old 11-14-2011, 02:44 AM   #283
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PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BTN: $5.00
SB: $6.03
BB: $10.85
Hero (UTG): $12.43
MP: $2.81
CO: $2.50

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero has 3 3

Hero raises to $0.15, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to $0.45, fold, Hero calls $0.30

Flop: ($0.95, 2 players) 3 3 T
SB bets $0.63, Hero calls $0.63

Turn: ($2.21, 2 players) 7
SB bets $1.40, Hero calls $1.40

River: ($5.01, 2 players) A
SB checks, Hero bets $3.57, SB calls $3.55 and is all-in

Hero shows 3 3 (Four of a Kind, Threes) (PreFlop 19%, Flop 100%, Turn 100%)
SB mucks Q Q (Two Pair, Queens and Threes) (PreFlop 81%, Flop 0%, Turn 0%)
Hero wins $11.52

...

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

CO: $12.05
BTN: $6.09
SB: $5.87
BB: $1.93
Hero (UTG): $4.93
MP: $14.29

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero has A J

Hero raises to $0.15, fold, fold, BTN calls $0.15, fold, fold

Flop: ($0.37, 2 players) 3 7 4
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.20, Hero raises to $0.60, BTN calls $0.40

Turn: ($1.57, 2 players) J
Hero bets $1.12, BTN calls $1.12

River: ($3.81, 2 players) 6
Hero checks, BTN bets $1.70, Hero calls $1.70

BTN shows 2 2 (One Pair, Twos) (PreFlop 52%, Flop 73%, Turn 5%)
Hero shows A J (One Pair, Jacks) (PreFlop 48%, Flop 27%, Turn 95%)
Hero wins $6.86
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Old 11-14-2011, 07:15 AM   #284
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How can you be -$350 playing 5NL O.o
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Old 11-14-2011, 07:40 AM   #285
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How can you be -$350 playing 5NL O.o
Yeah thats total, because + around $150 at NL10, i was taking shots without any BR management before and not much experience, then i bought a book "Harrington on 6max online" read that, deposit again played a bit of annoying NL2 while reading and decied to start from scratch at NL5 with 20 BI, still u see some crazy swings happend to me, i need to fix tilt issue, this is my biggest leak, anyway i am grinding back 2nd crazy swing i had, i was really throwing money away on tilt. Anyway i think i am still doing pretty well so far BB/100 is ok looking 4.74, problem is i am not playing many hands and when i start losing a bit i start losing more because tilt is developing, some1 recommends me a book here so i am gonna get it and read it as well, coz i really need to fix tilt, also, i think i can beat micros if i take it more serious, playing more hands, and be calm, i mean very very calm take more risks, be more aggressive and again be calm when losing, i am also having alot of problems in my life besides poker so this kind of stuff stops me a bit from been at my A game as well, but i hope i do best i can really to damn grow and grow at poker, because i really see it as my main income in future and this is what i am really enjoyed to do. Here is my total graph since i restart when created this thread, at which i am arguing alot lol, it just the way i am, but i'm also listening to what other ppl said and even if i am not agree at first place, after discussion i "fold" and take advise. Look for the red line past 1.5k hands, after that swing i decided to gave up on fear and be more aggressive as i always like to be and this is how i should be playing and i think in higher stakes my game will only improve, at least i hope so. The one thing i know for sure, no matter how long it takes, i will never give up on it


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Old 11-14-2011, 07:57 AM   #286
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Had exactly the same thing as you have now. It is sooo hard to have a climbing redline aswell as a STEADY blue line. I am now in the process of getting my redline to decline and as a result my blueline is becoming more and more steady and I don't have to make as much hard decisions as before. Getting the bet-fold game right is imo much more valuable at the micro's than being agressive at 5nl
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Old 11-14-2011, 08:07 AM   #287
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Had exactly the same thing as you have now. It is sooo hard to have a climbing redline aswell as a STEADY blue line. I am now in the process of getting my redline to decline and as a result my blueline is becoming more and more steady and I don't have to make as much hard decisions as before. Getting the bet-fold game right is imo much more valuable at the micro's than being agressive at 5nl
I partly agree with you, but been playing as a tight-passive player with only monster hands need alot of damn patience and alot of hands and tables to play, also tight-passive players easy to read and hard to lose money to them as well, also when you move up you will need to become a TAG or a LAG, and after been playing 10s of thousands of hands at micros as a tight-passive it's gonna be hard to change. And in my opinion and same says in harrington book it's hard to be a winner with passive style, even at micros.
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I partly agree with you, but been playing as a tight-passive player with only monster hands need alot of damn patience and alot of hands and tables to play, also tight-passive players easy to read and hard to lose money to them as well, also when you move up you will need to become a TAG or a LAG, and after been playing 10s of thousands of hands at micros as a tight-passive it's gonna be hard to change. And in my opinion and same says in harrington book it's hard to be a winner with passive style, even at micros.
I agree with you on that, but the micro's are stakes where people call to much: why would you want to push them off their hands early then? I'm not saying it isn't profitable, and I respect (winning)players with positive redlines at these stakes, but imo a steady blue-line is easier to achieve.
At higher stakes you are right about the agression etc, but why should you play a 50NL game-style when playing 10NL?

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Old 11-14-2011, 10:17 AM   #289
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PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

CO: $5.17
BTN: $2.52
SB: $3.74
BB: $5.03
Hero (UTG): $4.80
MP: $5.00

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero has J A

Hero raises to $0.15, fold, fold, fold, SB calls $0.13, fold

Flop: ($0.35, 2 players) 5 2 A
SB checks, Hero bets $0.17, SB calls $0.17

Turn: ($0.69, 2 players) 7
SB checks, Hero bets $0.33, SB calls $0.33

River: ($1.35, 2 players) A
SB checks, Hero bets $0.96, SB raises to $3.09 and is all-in, Hero calls $2.13

SB shows A 2 (Full House, Aces full of Twos) (PreFlop 28%, Flop 71%, Turn 80%)
Hero shows J A (Three of a Kind, Aces) (PreFlop 72%, Flop 29%, Turn 20%)
SB wins $7.16

River is a clear fold to a shove. What are you hoping to see here? AT?
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PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BB: $4.14
UTG: $5.46
Hero (CO): $4.86
BTN: $2.30
SB: $5.00

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero has A A

fold, Hero raises to $0.15, BTN calls $0.15, fold, fold

Flop: ($0.37, 2 players) K 7 2
Hero bets $0.27, BTN raises to $0.54, Hero raises to $4.71 and is all-in, BTN calls $1.61 and is all-in

Turn: ($4.67, 2 players) 2

River: ($4.67, 2 players) K

Hero shows A A (Two Pair, Aces and Kings) (PreFlop 93%, Flop 91%, Turn 95%)
BTN shows K A (Full House, Kings full of Twos) (PreFlop 7%, Flop 9%, Turn 5%)
BTN wins $4.44
Well done. Got the money in as a 91% favorite.

Remember, you cannot control what cards come. You are mathematically guaranteed to lose this hand 8.5% of the time and this was one of those times.
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Old 11-14-2011, 10:27 AM   #291
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Nah check all big players at pokertablerankings and you will see them stats they all played few hands only at micros and come up with nothing, ok i am at full tilt now, look what i've done.

We were arguing too much at a table so i decided try to make him shut da fock up, shame focking river:

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

CO: $5.00
BTN: $15.90
SB: $5.71
BB: $12.06
UTG: $8.28
Hero (MP): $12.50

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero has 3 6

fold, Hero raises to $0.15, fold, BTN calls $0.15, SB calls $0.13, fold

Flop: ($0.50, 3 players) Q 7 3
SB checks, Hero bets $0.36, BTN raises to $0.72, fold, Hero calls $0.36

Turn: ($1.94, 2 players) 6
Hero checks, BTN bets $1.90, Hero raises to $7.55, BTN calls $5.65

River: ($17.04, 2 players) 7
Hero bets $4.08 and is all-in, BTN calls $4.08

Hero shows 3 6 (Two Pair, Sevens and Sixes) (PreFlop 36%, Flop 24%, Turn 82%)
BTN shows J Q (Two Pair, Queens and Sevens) (PreFlop 64%, Flop 76%, Turn 18%)
BTN wins $23.99
I don't like opening 36s in MP.

I don't like cbetting this draw heavy board with bottom pair OOP. For me, this is a check/fold on the flop. What card are you hoping to see on the turn other than a non-spade 3 or 6? (Which a 6 btw gives 45 a straight)

Even though you had the best hand when the money when in, stacking off for 250BB with bottom 2 here is just...well bad here imo.

I'm guess you feel you got unlucky here, but I avoid this situation by not playing this pot and then just check/folding the flop.

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I swear this **** never ends, same villain 1st hand made me angry, 2nd hand killed me completly, i decided to put pressure on him with the bets knowing he is calling any 2, i would never expect this oh oh oh micros stupid micros, how many more of this idiots will be in hand with me...

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Hero (CO): $6.85
BTN: $3.37
SB: $2.16
BB: $5.00
UTG: $2.77

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero has K K

UTG raises to $0.10, Hero raises to $0.35, BTN raises to $0.60, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $6.85 and is all-in, BTN calls $2.77 and is all-in

Flop: ($6.91, 2 players) 2 7 Q

Turn: ($6.91, 2 players) A

River: ($6.91, 2 players) 4

Hero shows K K (One Pair, Kings) (PreFlop 72%, Flop 93%, Turn 25%)
BTN shows 8 A (One Pair, Aces) (PreFlop 28%, Flop 7%, Turn 75%)
BTN wins $6.57


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PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Hero (SB): $7.43
BB: $6.83
UTG: $2.14
CO: $5.00
BTN: $3.03

Hero posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero has Q K

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.15, BB calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.30, 2 players) Q 3 9
Hero bets $0.29, BB calls $0.29

Turn: ($0.88, 2 players) 4
Hero bets $0.84, BB calls $0.84

River: ($2.56, 2 players) 8
Hero bets $2.44, BB calls $2.44

Hero shows Q K (One Pair, Queens) (PreFlop 13%, Flop 19%, Turn 11%)
BB shows A A (One Pair, Aces) (PreFlop 87%, Flop 81%, Turn 89%)
BB wins $7.08

Hand 1: Money went in as 71% favorite. Well done.

Hand 2: Why are you building a big pot OOP? I'm probably check calling the flop and reacting to what villain does. If he bets flop, I check call turn. If he checks behind flop, I lead non-scary turns for a little over half pot and fold to any legitimate raise. His betting sizing would help me decide what I do. If he is trying to build a huge pot, I just call the flop bet and give up on the turn even with my top pair. I hate playing OOP and I hate playing BIG pots oop even more.

I wish you wouldn't show results. It is hard sometimes to get proper advice when we know what villain has.

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Old 11-14-2011, 11:07 AM   #293
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Had exactly the same thing as you have now. It is sooo hard to have a climbing redline aswell as a STEADY blue line. I am now in the process of getting my redline to decline and as a result my blueline is becoming more and more steady and I don't have to make as much hard decisions as before. Getting the bet-fold game right is imo much more valuable at the micro's than being agressive at 5nl
I am beating 5NL at about 8bb/100 and my red line is pretty terrible
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Old 11-14-2011, 11:09 AM   #294
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Evagaba u r right in every comment about those hands, but some of them was a tilt, some of them kind of tilt vs specific villains, like KQ vs AA, i usually never do that, about AJ, well yes like u said AT or similar, hard to fold those hands when u are on the losing run and this is what i must learn, stop being angry to a person who beat me with weak hand and tilting, i need to calm down and be like "whatever"..
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Old 11-14-2011, 11:23 AM   #295
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I agree with you on that, but the micro's are stakes where people call to much: why would you want to push them off their hands early then? I'm not saying it isn't profitable, and I respect (winning)players with positive redlines at these stakes, but imo a steady blue-line is easier to achieve.
At higher stakes you are right about the agression etc, but why should you play a 50NL game-style when playing 10NL?

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Also one thing i noticed when looking on stats of some players, say aggro at NL10 is less aggro at NL25 and looking further to NL50 is half aggressive compare to NL10, this is what happening with alot of players i believe, me personally when was taking few shots at NL25 was passive really, but with reason, no BR, fear to lose etc., thats why i am passive on BR management and trying to be aggressive in game itself, because i feel more comfy with more BI's and got no fear when i play, but if i keep losing 1 2 ...5 bi's then i face another problem - tilt...
I agree about the blue line though, it is easier to achive at micros, but it's nice when them both are running up well..
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Old 11-14-2011, 11:29 AM   #296
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One of the first things I applied to avoiding tilt was to cut the number of tables I played to 2. Going from 6 tables to 2 was not easy and also a blow to the ego (after all, I can easily play 6 tables, right?) but it accomplishes a number of things.

Playing just 2 tables, dramatically slowed the action down and allowed me too think out each decision and spot and determine the correct move. I could now takes notes much easier as well. It allowed me to watch hands I was not playing in which is also very important. It also prevents many auto-pilot moves that we all make when playing a gizzilion tables because your thinking each move out.

It takes some getting used too because your used to playing so many hands, but focusing on the correct decisions is WAY more +EV than getting volume in. After all, if your not a winning player or constantly making costly mistakes, why on earth would you want to put in more hands? For some reason, I was also able to laugh off bad beats much much easier and forget about them sooner.

Only after I felt I improved my game and had my tilt under control did I add a 3rd then 4th table. I now would never play more than 4, ever.
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Old 11-15-2011, 02:52 AM   #297
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Yeah i start with two tables, playing around 10-15 min, then i add another 2, and then another 1 or 2, 6 to the max. What are you usually do when you lost your buy in, reload it or leave the table?
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Yeah i start with two tables, playing around 10-15 min, then i add another 2, and then another 1 or 2, 6 to the max. What are you usually do when you lost your buy in, reload it or leave the table?
well if you know you have problems and gonna tilt and start play back at who stacked you you can leave the table doh

this thing with starting with few tables is a winner, i used to start with at least 12 tables and i get f ucked and lose 3 buy ins and start from there
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Old 11-15-2011, 10:00 AM   #299
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Yeah i start with two tables, playing around 10-15 min, then i add another 2, and then another 1 or 2, 6 to the max. What are you usually do when you lost your buy in, reload it or leave the table?
I'm not talking about adding tables during your session. I am suggesting playing entire sessions at just 2 tables until you have your tilt issues under control. Adding tables during the session solves nothing if you have tilt issues.

Lets say you start with 2 tables and everything is going fine after 10-15 minutes or so. So you add a third table and then a 4th 15 minutes later and then boom, you get bad beat. Then you get bad beat again in a matter of 30 seconds. Now all of a sudden you have 4 tables open and you are in severe danger of tilt. What happens when you have your max 6 tables open and go on tilt? Bankroll disaster, that's what.

Side note: 6 tables is too many imo. You can't focus on your opponents enough. The action is too fast and the bad beats can come fast and furious. Don't bite off more than you can chew. I never play more than 4 tables anymore. Ever.

You are never going to run your bankroll up if you have tilt issues. Never. You will win, win, win, win, win and then lose it all and then some in one bad tilt session. I had rinsed and repeated this cycle for almost 3 years before I finally admitted I had tilt issues.

I seriously solved tilt by playing entire sessions of just 2 tables. (Among other things, mindset mindset mindset). You will be amazed at how calm and collected you can stay when you only have 2 tables to focus on. You pay attention more. You see all the action. You make better decisions. I played 2 table sessions for an entire month before I added a 3rd table and then another month before I added a fourth. And you know what? I won more in one month playing 2 tables than when I played 6. I kid you not.

You can not and should not worry about putting volume in until you have tilt completely under control.

As for how I deal with buy-ins at the table, I always set up the poker client to auto top my stack off. So if I buy in for $5.00 and lose .35, then next hand I start with $5.00 again and not $4.65. You always want at least 100 bbs in your stack. I would instead set a stop loss of 3 buy-ins for yourself, so when you lose $15 at 5NL in total from all your tables, then it is time to quit. (Regardless if you have been playing for 5 minutes or 5 hours).

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As for how I deal with buy-ins at the table, I always set up the poker client to auto top my stack off. So if I buy in for $5.00 and lose .35, then next hand I start with $5.00 again and not $4.65. You always want at least 100 bbs in your stack. I would instead set a stop loss of 3 buy-ins for yourself, so when you lose $15 at 5NL in total from all your tables, then it is time to quit. (Regardless if you have been playing for 5 minutes or 5 hours).
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Also do you have a recent graph of winnings?
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