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02-18-2024 , 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Regretzz
I'm going to be really blunt. You decided to quit your job to play poker based off past results in the games you are playing, correct? Texas live poker has to be one of if not the softest game on the planet. Yes, you read that right, in the entire world.

You are not good at the game, and how can you be? You never ran or looked at a sim in your life. If you're taking this seriously hire a coach ASAP. I don't coach so this isn't me trying to shill. You have a wife and kids and I'd like to see you not lose everything that you've worked for.

Blows my mind you went pro and don't even have basic preflop ranges down. Find a mentor/coach and learn how to run sims or use a sim database. Save yourself the headache in the future by putting in the work now. GL.
You're basing this off of what? I am constantly looking at sims and do a lot of work in the trainer in GTO Wizard. I have 47k practice hands in GTO Wizard trainer and before I had that I had 46k hands in the trainer in postflop+. I also run preflop sims for straddle pots, double straddle pots, and button straddle pots. I am easily spending over an over per day in solver work, maybe closer to 2 hours+. And I love it.

I have a winning sample over 61k hands at ACR blitz 5 tabling while doing one reg table. Winning 4.5 bb/100 EV adjusted. Actual BB/100 is 7.6bb and adjusted for rakeback it is 8.6bb (and if I switch to the back to the Elite program now thst my volume is higher, it would be more). Tiny sample size, sure. That is why I am grinding out some more volume right now to get a better idea of what is realistic for my win rate. Some of the preflop leaks I was having were just missing the bottoms of ranges like Q5s-Q7s, A8o and A5o, K2s-K3s, K9o from the CO. Those hands are all 0 to 0.01bb EV opens.

I'm finding that it looks like I can get in 800-1000 hands per hour doing 5 blitz 200nl tables and one reg 200nl table. Let's say I can win 5.5 bb/100 after rakeback at doing 5 tables blitz and one reg at 900 hands /hour. That's $99/hr. That is about what I have made hourly in live poker since playing full time. If you include my whole 2023 year playing live before I went pro, my hourly has been 132/hr.

Maybe I am just a losing online player on a heater. Maybe if I put in volume, study more, and hire a coach, I can do a lot better than 5.5bb/100 after rakeback. Who knows? Out of my 62k hand sample. 20k of those hands were in the last 3 days. I can't know if I don't put in the volume.

At this point I only took one day off olaying live poker to play online poker. Maybe I take a week off and see how it goes? Maybe I only play a few hours online in the evenings? Maybe I go back to being an accountant. The only thing I can tell you for sure is that I'm going to do whatever the hell I want.
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02-18-2024 , 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by bob_124
GL!

I’d be interested to know roughly where in the country you’re playing, if you’re comfortable sharing those details.
Obv missed the title of the thread
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02-18-2024 , 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by MicroDonkYT
Don’t play fast fold games. Get some coaching from Hunter Cichy on run it once. He plays deep live stack games.
Thanks, I will look into him.
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02-18-2024 , 12:47 PM
I would just focus live or online - pick a niche and become a master. The two games are vastly different and switching between the two periodically isn't the way to go imo. I also applaud you for taking a shot - too many people are conservative in life working jobs that they hate. Maybe this works out, maybe it doesn't, maybe it leads to a better avenue. Anything is better than working for someone with a ceiling esp if you hate it.
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02-18-2024 , 04:46 PM
lol just played a hand on ACR 200 NL Blitz.

Hero raises with AKo UTG to 2bb. V with no stats in HJ raises to 7.5bb. Hero jams 103bb. Villain tank calls with AJo. Villain runs it once. We scoop.

Yeah, the goal is to beat the regs for a decent amount and crush the fish. But even with a modest win rate vs regs or close to break even, can't we do pretty solid? Fish exist at all stakes.


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Originally Posted by pokerfan655
I would just focus live or online - pick a niche and become a master. The two games are vastly different and switching between the two periodically isn't the way to go imo. I also applaud you for taking a shot - too many people are conservative in life working jobs that they hate. Maybe this works out, maybe it doesn't, maybe it leads to a better avenue. Anything is better than working for someone with a ceiling esp if you hate it.
I mean, I can surely focus on the one that nets me the most money, right? But as the skills are very transferable, I don't see why I can't do both. Expecially considering there are days where I can't find stakes higher than 1/3.Granted, it is a Texas 1/3 and there are usually a few stacks of 2k+.
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02-20-2024 , 03:00 AM
Played a private game today. 5/5/10/20 Won $988 in 6 hours.



It's a start!

Lined up for private games next 3 days as well.

After the live poker session, got my son, ate dinner my wife cooked, put son to bed, and played this monstrosity of a session:



Down 1,400 and back to even in less than 2 hours. Nice.

Some people say being very stuck and getting unstuck is the best feeling. It's okay. Winning 15k in one day is much better imo. Would love to have one of those days again soon.
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02-20-2024 , 10:52 PM


Won 2,800 in 6 hours playing a 5/5/10/20 private game. I have seats at private games the next two days. Feeling hopeful.
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02-21-2024 , 12:08 AM
focus more on process instead of results, and practice more disciplined bankroll management IMO. good luck.
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02-21-2024 , 12:37 AM
I'm curious what you think about private games, seems like that's the direction higher stakes has gone. Do you change your play to get an invite back or are they okay with you playing well if you're not a miserable reg?

Nice results at 200blitz btw, low sample but you're obviously not getting destroyed which is an accomplishment. No clue how you handle 5 (+1) tables without autopiloting or timing out.
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02-21-2024 , 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by TripleBerryJam
I'm curious what you think about private games, seems like that's the direction higher stakes has gone. Do you change your play to get an invite back or are they okay with you playing well if you're not a miserable reg?

Nice results at 200blitz btw, low sample but you're obviously not getting destroyed which is an accomplishment. No clue how you handle 5 (+1) tables without autopiloting or timing out.
I try to be splashier sometimes if it is a VIP table where it is more expected, but other times when the recs are more guaranteed I will try to play more reasonable ranges. Honestly after losing 25k in 2 weeks and showing everyone I can lose a **** ton, I don't feel like I need to artificially inflate my splashyness. At times when I have been crushing the game I will get very splashy to avoid a nut peddling image.

I don't love that all the 5/5 games lately around me are private games. Public games used to run more often and the private games used to be less exclusive. They are more of a necessity if you want to play those stakes. The games won't run without getting at least 5-6 people to be there at the starting time.

Autopiloting and timing out happens at times. Timing out not so much, but autopiloting can definitely be a thing. Why didn't I cbet this flop that should be a range bet and now I'm in a weird spot, etc. I should probably watch my fatigue when playing and take some breaks to keep fresh. It's more of a side project for me. I will still explore it and maybe hire a coach at some point. If nothing else I do think playing 200NL and mixing in solver work helps to keep me sharp.
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02-21-2024 , 08:51 PM


Won 5,100 in 6 hours today playing 5/5/10/25.

Hand of the session:

5/5/10/25 with 50 straddle, 9 handed, hero first to act raises to 125 with 9d9c, fold, tourney reg on 1k stack flats from CO, folds to reg BB on 2.5k stack who flats, folds to straddle rec on 2.3k stack who calls. Hero covers.

Flop $915:

Ad9h2d

Checks to hero who bets $150. CO calls, BB raises to $600, straddle flats $600, hero jams 2,375 effective. CO folds, BB tank calls, straddle calls.

BB says he has diamonds and is only running it once (you can run it multiple times multiway in this game). Hero flips over hand and BB flips over set of deuces. It is apparent that CO probably folded an ace, he later says he folded AQ (rare flat pre). So I love that we have a diamond but don't love that a lot of the boat redraws are dead. We are still about 68% though.

Runout comes 3,4, bringing one liner to a 5. BB mucks and we scoop.

Another private game tomorrow, excited.
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02-22-2024 , 01:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Mlark


Won 5,100 in 6 hours today playing 5/5/10/25.

Hand of the session:

5/5/10/25 with 50 straddle, 9 handed, hero first to act raises to 125 with 9d9c, fold, tourney reg on 1k stack flats from CO, folds to reg BB on 2.5k stack who flats, folds to straddle rec on 2.3k stack who calls. Hero covers.

Flop $915:

Ad9h2d

Checks to hero who bets $150. CO calls, BB raises to $600, straddle flats $600, hero jams 2,375 effective. CO folds, BB tank calls, straddle calls.

BB says he has diamonds and is only running it once (you can run it multiple times multiway in this game). Hero flips over hand and BB flips over set of deuces. It is apparent that CO probably folded an ace, he later says he folded AQ (rare flat pre). So I love that we have a diamond but don't love that a lot of the boat redraws are dead. We are still about 68% though.

Runout comes 3,4, bringing one liner to a 5. BB mucks and we scoop.

Another private game tomorrow, excited.
Flop pot size is actually 540.
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02-22-2024 , 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Mlark
I mean, I can surely focus on the one that nets me the most money, right? But as the skills are very transferable, I don't see why I can't do both. Expecially considering there are days where I can't find stakes higher than 1/3.Granted, it is a Texas 1/3 and there are usually a few stacks of 2k+.
Grunching,

I think if I had a shot taking roll like you probably have atm relative to playing live 10/25 w/straddle, I would stay clear of playing tougher online games like ACR 200 until the roll is in a more comfortable zone to play whatever. Admittedly I know little about the current state of online play in general but pretty sure ACR 200 is serious bizness vs almost anything live.

GL
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02-22-2024 , 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by No_Limit_Joker
sounds like u have a great approach and doing better than half the people reading your post

The "flip" for 5k being the only exception ..but... it is a slight possibility that i have made more than 1 ill-advised bet myself before
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are you adding in lowstakes online volume for reps?
Flipping is part of customer service when you are a winning pro.
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02-22-2024 , 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by timmay28
Grunching,

I think if I had a shot taking roll like you probably have atm relative to playing live 10/25 w/straddle, I would stay clear of playing tougher online games like ACR 200 until the roll is in a more comfortable zone to play whatever. Admittedly I know little about the current state of online play in general but pretty sure ACR 200 is serious bizness vs almost anything live.

GL
What you call serious bizness is good training for OP in much tougher pools for a lot less money compared to live, seems smart to grind Blitz on the side.

Good luck on your journey OP
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02-22-2024 , 09:50 PM


Won 12.9k in 7 hours playing 5/5/10/25, game last few hours game changed to 10/25/50.

Hand of the day:

4 handed, 10/25/50, hero in the 50 straddle. Reg raises to 200 (covers hero 7,630 effective), retired old time poker player (7.5k stack) calls 200 in SB, BB folds, hero raises to 800 with QhQc. Button calls, SB folds.

Flop 1,825 KsQs7c, hero bets 600, villain calls

Turn 3,025 KsQs7c4c, hero bets 1,700, villain calls.

River KsQs7c4c3h $6,425, hero goes all in for $4,530. Villain tanks for several minutes and eventually calls and we're good.

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Originally Posted by KatoKrazy
Flipping is part of customer service when you are a winning pro.
This is my thinking. But I am pretty sick of flips and I am doing them a lot less now. I limited it to one 500 flip at the end of the session and $100 zero EV prop bets every 30 minutes on the bomb pot.

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Originally Posted by Rakkazzar
What you call serious bizness is good training for OP in much tougher pools for a lot less money compared to live, seems smart to grind Blitz on the side.

Good luck on your journey OP
This is my thinking. After losing 12k in one day and going on a 25k downswing, it is nice to play a game where a 10 buy in down swing is 1 live buy in or less. Great practice. I hope to continue to improve and not rule out at some point playing more online poker. My goal as far as that goes would be to increase my winrate at 200 blitz, show a positive win rate over a much larger hand sample, hire a poker coach at least to do a database review of my hands and a few sessions, and one day be able to play at higher stakes. But that is very much a back burner long-term thing.

More important than anything online poker-related as a goal for me right now is to build my role large enough to be comfortable with playing 25/50, buying in for 5k, and not feeling like I am shot taking. Also, continuing to grind private games and build relationships with players that may be able to open doors in the future.
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02-22-2024 , 10:49 PM
Now that I think about it, V may have opened 150, not 200.
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02-24-2024 , 01:17 AM


Lost 1,900 in 9.5 hours today, started at 1/2, then 1/3, and finally 10/25/50 for the last few hours. 2,500 bullets, in for 9k, at one point down 7k. Played stand up game and at one point was all in with AJ 3 times within 3 or 5 hands, twice back to back, ran AJ into AK first two times and got stacked. Third time I doubled up vs KJs. Roller coaster day.

This is my most winning week since playing full time, up 20k this week. Crazy month with my biggest losing week losing 18k. Still 5k more to go until I get out of the 25k downswing. 99 hours into the dowswing.
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02-29-2024 , 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Mlark

I have a winning sample over 61k hands at ACR blitz 5 tabling while doing one reg table. Winning 4.5 bb/100 EV adjusted. Actual BB/100 is 7.6bb and adjusted for rakeback it is 8.6bb (and if I switch to the back to the Elite program now thst my volume is higher, it would be more). Tiny sample size, sure. That is why I am grinding out some more volume right now to get a better idea of what is realistic for my win rate. Some of the preflop leaks I was having were just missing the bottoms of ranges like Q5s-Q7s, A8o and A5o, K2s-K3s, K9o from the CO. Those hands are all 0 to 0.01bb EV opens.

I'm finding that it looks like I can get in 800-1000 hands per hour doing 5 blitz 200nl tables and one reg 200nl table. Let's say I can win 5.5 bb/100 after rakeback at doing 5 tables blitz and one reg at 900 hands /hour. That's $99/hr. That is about what I have made hourly in live poker since playing full time. If you include my whole 2023 year playing live before I went pro, my hourly has been 132/hr.

Maybe I am just a losing online player on a heater. Maybe if I put in volume, study more, and hire a coach, I can do a lot better than 5.5bb/100 after rakeback. Who knows?
You seem like strategically you have what it takes to be a winner in poker, but your delusion regarding results is off the charts. You are 100.000000% losing in 200nl blitz including rb. Absolutely guaranteed. Would happily crossbook you 10x (dm for details). The fact that your (claimed) results are pure run good should be totally obvious to you. Same story with your astronomical winrate over a 0 hand sample playing live. If you just take an objective look around you can really set yourself up for success, but on your current path you will likely go broke due to stupid mistakes.
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02-29-2024 , 02:01 PM
Mlark, why not just stick to live poker? The games are softer, the security concerns are negligible, and you'll likely make way more money. ROI on time/money/fulfillment compared to online is second to none unless you get to the highest stakes available. If you're worried about the potential swings in live, you should move down in stakes until you have a roll big enough for 10/25.

You should hire a coach if you're planning to take online seriously because online is exponentially harder than live and IMO takes a bigger toll on the mental game. Maybe consider hiring a coach now anyways who can help give you perspective on the situation.
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02-29-2024 , 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Mlark
You're basing this off of what? I am constantly looking at sims and do a lot of work in the trainer in GTO Wizard. I have 47k practice hands in GTO Wizard trainer and before I had that I had 46k hands in the trainer in postflop+. I also run preflop sims for straddle pots, double straddle pots, and button straddle pots. I am easily spending over an over per day in solver work, maybe closer to 2 hours+. And I love it.

I have a winning sample over 61k hands at ACR blitz 5 tabling while doing one reg table. Winning 4.5 bb/100 EV adjusted. Actual BB/100 is 7.6bb and adjusted for rakeback it is 8.6bb (and if I switch to the back to the Elite program now thst my volume is higher, it would be more). Tiny sample size, sure. That is why I am grinding out some more volume right now to get a better idea of what is realistic for my win rate. Some of the preflop leaks I was having were just missing the bottoms of ranges like Q5s-Q7s, A8o and A5o, K2s-K3s, K9o from the CO. Those hands are all 0 to 0.01bb EV opens.

I'm finding that it looks like I can get in 800-1000 hands per hour doing 5 blitz 200nl tables and one reg 200nl table. Let's say I can win 5.5 bb/100 after rakeback at doing 5 tables blitz and one reg at 900 hands /hour. That's $99/hr. That is about what I have made hourly in live poker since playing full time. If you include my whole 2023 year playing live before I went pro, my hourly has been 132/hr.

Maybe I am just a losing online player on a heater. Maybe if I put in volume, study more, and hire a coach, I can do a lot better than 5.5bb/100 after rakeback. Who knows? Out of my 62k hand sample. 20k of those hands were in the last 3 days. I can't know if I don't put in the volume.

At this point I only took one day off olaying live poker to play online poker. Maybe I take a week off and see how it goes? Maybe I only play a few hours online in the evenings? Maybe I go back to being an accountant. The only thing I can tell you for sure is that I'm going to do whatever the hell I want.

If your goal is to play online to keep your skills sharp and improve, then playing 5 blitz tables isn't the way.
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03-02-2024 , 03:59 AM
Thanks guys. I play 30-40 hours of live poker every week. I play a few hours of online poker a week and it's a glorified hobby. I understand variance.



Booked another losing week. This time 6k in 39 hours. Booked a losing month in February, which was the start of the downswing. Going on 30 days of downswing, 138 hours of live poker, 11k down. Sucks, but could be worse. A friend of mine who plays similar stakes is going on a ~50-60k downswing since the beginning of the year.

It feels good to be closer to 0 than the bottom of the 25k downswing though (in dollar terms).

It also feels good that I have been able to get a seat in 4 private games per week the last several weeks.
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03-02-2024 , 12:07 PM
The private games are in a card room, right? Not someone's house?
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03-02-2024 , 12:16 PM
That's correct.
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03-05-2024 , 09:27 PM


Lost 7k today in 6.5 hours. I was up about 500 until the last 30 minutes. Double board PLO bomb pot where I got it in with KK top set vs QQ top set. We had gutters and FDs on the each other's set board. All in on turn, he binks gutter. 3.5k down.

Then lost 3k as 3bettor vs same guy, boat vs quads.

Also I bluffed and lost 1.5k on one hand, bluffing with the best hand until the river. I had 3c3h. Flop is Ac9c8h. I am preflop raiser vs SB rec cold caller. 25% pot flop. Turn 7h, 75% pot. River Jc. 150% pot. I get called by KhTs. He floated an ace high flop with a back door straight draw, no flush draw, with K high on an ace high board. My God.

151 hours, 34 days 14k down, up from -25k bottom. Feels bad man.

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