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08-28-2022 , 12:54 PM
nice to see a post like this from you ceres, gl in sep
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08-28-2022 , 02:55 PM
Looks solid, very good wwsf on both recent graphs
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08-29-2022 , 02:30 AM
Cheers guys!
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08-23-2023 , 06:44 PM
We demand an update!
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08-24-2023 , 06:59 PM
Blimey a full year....


I can't account for any of it. Christ alive
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08-25-2023 , 12:53 AM
Never quite stopped doing something every day but my mind has mostly been on other things tbh. Last winter, on the cusp of moving up, I spent my roll again just before a downswing that together combined like a swirling vortex of failure and wiped me out completely financially. Rather than grind it back immediately I naively relied on playing some £10 cash on Sky with dole money whenever I needed a bump. Not recommended. Paid some bills but ineviatbly without an actual roll the variance always smokes you out.


Stakeless, aimless and flirting with other career moves, I challenged myself to see if I could get a positive red line @ 2nlz a few months ago. My set-up was this: one tabling zoom with the actual tracker graph positioned directly underneath the table and updated in real time so you get this instantaneous feedback/intuitive sense of how those mercurial lines actually form.

Here are the results of this experiment:


Spoiler:


Turns out you CAN get a positive redline at 2nlz. A complete success with zero downsides.

...

The last 10k or so I realised this wasn't going to work out long term and have readopted my safer, older and more cowardly style. I learnt a few things though. I can let rip a lot more now. Got me some don't-know-what-to-do-but-I-know-you're-weak-lmao jams in my arsenal.

Look out 5nl.

In sum: my game feels more expansive (and, yes, fun) but my discipline is shot to bits. That's where I need to be putting my energy after this quirky quasi-hiatus.

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Perhaps also worth mentioning: got stoned one week and wondered if I could write a hand history creator program for pokertracker using ChatGPT.

Dunno if this bugs anyone else, but I always wanted to plug hand histories (from play and explains or wherever) into the actual replayer to practice as and when, just as I usually practice my tracked bad hands. But they don't have an option for this and writing them from scratch in .txt files is an absolute bitch. Lucky for me it turns out AI is so proficient these days that you only need rudimentary programming knowledge to put something like that together so I treated it as a training project and voila, after 3 weeks+ of programming grind and figuring out how to include every possible betting action on every street post, including bloody all-ins, we got there.

It doesn’t do limps, it doesn't do preflop beyond typical sizes, and it doesn't do multiway… but nonetheless.. it does do.



That's about it.
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08-25-2023 , 12:58 AM
End of 2023 poker goals:
  • build up to 6k zoom hands/day
  • get to 25nlz at last
  • finish my high tech menmonic poker information palace
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08-25-2023 , 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Ceres

Spoiler:


Turns out you CAN get a positive redline at 2nlz. A complete success with zero downsides.
ahahaha, looks like you really worked things out around the 12k hand mark.


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Originally Posted by Ceres
I learnt a few things though. I can let rip a lot more now. Got me some don't-know-what-to-do-but-I-know-you're-weak-lmao jams in my arsenal.
Ah, the Belarussian gambit. A fine move.
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09-02-2023 , 12:56 PM
Good week, put some welly in it for once.

Up to 5k/day 3-tabling zoom which I think is a more realistic daily target long term. Still love this format/intensity. Yeah it nukes the WR but psychologically it's still the perfect mix of poker action for me.

Spoiler:


A nice pair of lips! (jesus christ)

So…that is me DONE with 2nlz shenanigans now. Taking a week off to study and reload and then we're going to apply the same approach (consistency + hands > results/experimentation) at 5nlz where, god willing, it shouldn't be too long until I have a roll to take on 10nlz again. I'd reaaaaly like to get to 25nl zoom by the end the of this year, and then start diversifying and playing cash games on GG (which look soft af ) to see what hourly I can realistically make these days with a proper 'sacred' bankroll.

Got my vices under control right now. Sugar free, carb free, marijuana free, porn free, dopamine free, caffeine free, booze free, nicotine free. Crazy. Feel like ****ing ****.

Last edited by Ceres; 09-02-2023 at 01:02 PM.
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09-02-2023 , 01:08 PM
Anyone played this?




I got a free month on games pass. Wasn't expecting much but it's actually kinda brilliant. Just buzzing about google earth style but with genuinely eye watering photographic realism, weather, sky etc and proper topography. Obviously you make a bee-line for your own gaff first but then you wake up in the middle of the night and think of all the different places you've always wanted to see in god mode. Recommended (unless you have potato pc).

Anyway, main reason I mention it is one day I thought flying a plane is a pretty gud metaphor for a poker session. You load everything up ridiculously carefully, you check your mentals, your flight plan and you set off. You have **** all control over the weather/turbulence etc; your only task is to fly the plane as per the predetermined strategy and not worry about anything else. Any stupid lapses in concentration are far too costly to entertain so the only viable mental state is a kind of subtle but intense and pleasurable zen of dignity, fortitude and self-control.

Take-off and landings are particular danger zones to pay special attention to as well; complacency = certain death and a really bad day for your crew. Plus, it's ultimately quite fun…and you should be enjoying the view/mental challenge of all this effort. Otherwise, what is the point?
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09-04-2023 , 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Ceres
How is the 16nl pool? I'd always assumed to skip it.

Presumably you mean it's a decent half-way point skill wise between 10-25?

only splashed about there a bit in past but was great few times played it cause pool is small it can have a real regular table feel which i prefer and more game flow if play few long sessions, the smaller pool helps noted the same with 16nl regular tables smaller pool but good pool cause its random stake
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09-04-2023 , 12:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Ceres
Right

we're back to 10nlz!



Back where we started? Yes. But I'm better now. Way better I think. Plus nice to know I'm there on merit.

Ended with a 6bb/100 which is fine. impossible to tell over a small sample, confident I'm there or thereabouts.

.....

Not sure how to approach the next stage. On the one hand I want to get to 25nlz asap to test my skill level if nothing else, but... on the other, slightly more realistic hand, I need to learn how to 4-table zoom and hit consistent winrates @ 1k hands/hr - pretty sure that's the format I'll end up doing day to day if this ever goes pro. I've tried grinding 4x cash and 1x zoom and I'm not sure I like... dunno.

Nevertheless, I don't think I'll bother moving down or any of that bollocks from here. I can cover the swings financially and I'm reasonably confident I'm not losing at 10nlz. Will want at least 50BI to grind 25nlz comfortably as a day job probably although I admit if I get to 20BIs I might take shots and/or grind 25nl cash for the extra buffer.
wouldnt recommend 4tabling zoom, too little time to think too many misclicks timeouts, hell even 5tables regular and one of 888 kinda too much if playing a loose or focused game, think stick to 2-3 for zoom or 4-5 for regular and just try move up thats personally what im gonna hopefully try do.

as for bankroll management f*ck knows ive literally never stuck to any rules ive ever tried to make for that, always end up playing next stake soon as can sit and basically never move down just go bust.

i think if want money play pokerstars to like 50nl then go another site for higher stakes after that 100-500nl party or ipoker or something (id go ipoker if didnt random internet drop outs disconnections as ive casually looked the tables there more reg tables there 100 than on pokerstars, but cause do im scared playing higher than 50 at regular tables or zoom cause dont wanna disconnect deep randomly with 400-600bb stack or something in middle of pot with hand im likely winning, also like having more than 4 bet sizings on pokerstars with the hotkeys etc ipoker i dunno what software have get for that).
Pokerstars or PartyPoker or 888 probably best for 50 and below though oh and sky though i got no clue if games still run there but they were great few years ago, think 888 good too if trust getting money off on site and cool the deposit withdrawal fees.

notice names a migraine medication try not take them, fry brain.
as for migraine help no clue, i have chronic daily ones of varying intensities myself not fun, mind fog, cant enjoy music think straight process stuff just feel like ****** with them when bad bad.
but yh try get off that med if still on its probably shite longterm i stopped them ages ago mainly as did jackshit to help them anyways, now i mainly suffer and ignore occasionally if bad bad cant tolerate try knock it on head bit with codeine sudafed or whatever or ibruprofen but not too often cause as said i basically never get let up of migraines just intensity varies but the thing temple eye always there, and yh know that med bad too and often dont work either at all ha.
yh i dont have good advice migraines suck and drs know **** all bout em anyways just throw drugs at it willy nilly.

if your in it for longhaul poker can follow bankroll management omaha definitely 1000% has higher winrate ceilings theres utter madmen in them games and games get fun as table or you get deep.
just a thought if fancied it but you will swing and alot both ways though.
but the winrate ceiling is higher i honestly think by about 2-3x holdem winrates even, need patience though slower pace hand an hr also play 2-3 tables tops you need to think think every street and size things right as your multiway often.
it is a better game if rolled disciplined with bankroll management you dont really have bumhunt either in omaha gamblers like omaha there just there chilling.
i dunno what right bankroll management is for holdem but you probably want double for omaha whatever you use for holdem.
also if you like sweats and gambling cause your all in turn or pre and flops more you actually get the fun or sweating it (or not fun if your not a gambler, i am a gambler though so i like it and get why gamblers drawn to omaha it is more fun gets heart pumping them deep all in sweats multiway whether ahead or not its a sweat way more than holdem is, holdems just a long chug along chip away by comparison hard to get a sweat rush with it now unless put all your money on few tables lol)
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09-04-2023 , 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Ceres
Anyone played this?




I got a free month on games pass. Wasn't expecting much but it's actually kinda brilliant. Just buzzing about google earth style but with genuinely eye watering photographic realism, weather, sky etc and proper topography. Obviously you make a bee-line for your own gaff first but then you wake up in the middle of the night and think of all the different places you've always wanted to see in god mode. Recommended (unless you have potato pc).

Anyway, main reason I mention it is one day I thought flying a plane is a pretty gud metaphor for a poker session. You load everything up ridiculously carefully, you check your mentals, your flight plan and you set off. You have **** all control over the weather/turbulence etc; your only task is to fly the plane as per the predetermined strategy and not worry about anything else. Any stupid lapses in concentration are far too costly to entertain so the only viable mental state is a kind of subtle but intense and pleasurable zen of dignity, fortitude and self-control.

Take-off and landings are particular danger zones to pay special attention to as well; complacency = certain death and a really bad day for your crew. Plus, it's ultimately quite fun…and you should be enjoying the view/mental challenge of all this effort. Otherwise, what is the point?


Love that game. Really fun flying through storms. There's a new version coming out that's going to have a lot more features.
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09-05-2023 , 01:02 PM
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i dont have good advice migraines suck and drs know **** all bout em anyways just throw drugs at it willy nilly.
Very true. I've tried >12 things now from desperate 'just get out of my office unhealable person' practitioners over the years, nearly all total rubbish. But I stand by the preventative I currently take (1.5mg Pizotifen daily) given every time I try and come off it the headaches invariably switch back into unbearable hell mode and the side effects are quite mild (drowsiness at night is whatev).

Pizotifen, that Cefaly device, and as good a diet as i can muster are how I maintain currently although i'm still only at part time work capacity so far. But it sure beats the daily chronic/suicidal state I was at 5yrs ago. Plus cannabis of course.

[Nothing, not even heroin, comes remotely close to cannabis to treat migraines for me (not hyperbole) - butttt.... like anything that relieves pain so emphatically if you end up using daily it starts to mask other problems that you should feel pain for, physical and mental, and it becomes its own issue. So's not my solution either.]

I'll keep posting any progress but I'm convinced the final answer for me is: a fairly strict and consistent keto-esque diet, moderate marijuana use + all the usual healthstyle shite: yoga, meditation, exercise blah. The trouble with making such dramatic changes to diet is, I have discovered way too late in life, it can cause various eating disorder symptoms/landmines to erupt that didn't even exist before, which have collectively held me back from following through completely with zero sugar/carbs and really knowing either way. So I've adopted a more inching forward approach (I count sugar free days per month now rather than 'perfection' and measure progress by quarters to allow for extensive but recoverable mishaps), and that seems to be working whereas every other approach tanked. Time will tell.


RE Omah: tempted but really wanna master hold 'em first and don't really have the brain capacity. Still very much enjoy 6max somehow. Love the learning/improving aspect > buzz. But also love the mastering of emotions > variance factor too so sure one day whynot. Ultimately I'll follow the fish and the $$$
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09-05-2023 , 01:07 PM
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Love that game. Really fun flying through storms. There's a new version coming out that's going to have a lot more features.
Barely started with 2020 but 2024 and proper missions looks immense. Someone said there's a career mode type mod but I haven't gotten that far. Been watching real flight instruction vids on yt for 'tips' heh
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09-05-2023 , 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Ceres
Got my vices under control right now. Sugar free, carb free, marijuana free, porn free, dopamine free, caffeine free, booze free, nicotine free. Crazy. Feel like ****ing ****.
Those are definitely the worst for me, especially being Type 2 Diabetic.

I can live without completely cutting out carbs as long as I stick to ones that don't completely spike my blood sugar.

But sweets....I really struggle with that. I'll sometimes manage to go 3-4 days without any, but then I go to the store and see a bag of skittles. Black out...buy them and eat the whole bag.
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09-06-2023 , 08:30 AM
;)) oh I hear you


People don't realise the second you have to restrict it turns into crack. And it's really cheap, and it's literally EVERYWHERE

Happy Birthday have a cake. Merry Christmas stuff your face. It's even in hospitals ffs

Managed to quit most things in life but refined glucose is the mf GOAT. When aliens say take me to your leader they mean take me to the Wonka factory
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10-01-2023 , 05:40 PM
(quick) SEpTemBer UpDate

Average month overall. 5nlz is an aquarium so no complaints, i'm just not playing enough again.





As you can see, my line is very solid. But, woe (!) a pififul number of hands. Food-wise I did stumble mid month and the most frustrating thing about EDs is the one-step forward two steps back nature of perpetual detox. So even if you're crazy good 98% of the time that one slip can hold you back for a fortnight.

Nevermind. Back on/in the saddle and, as I say, my understanding of good micros play is clicking, my mental game is practically sublime compared to even a year ago, so it's really all about getting that hands/day ratio up to where it should be.

All goes well I would like to reach 15k hands/week by the end of October




Goals:
  • 15k hands/week by the end of October
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10-05-2023 , 08:22 PM
That's a big jump in volume. Don't be too hard if you don't manage to hit it. But 15K per week, considering you playing zoom, is within reach no doubt.
GL GL hero.
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10-06-2023 , 06:54 AM
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) oh I hear you


People don't realise the second you have to restrict it turns into crack. And it's really cheap, and it's literally EVERYWHERE

Happy Birthday have a cake. Merry Christmas stuff your face. It's even in hospitals ffs

Managed to quit most things in life but refined glucose is the mf GOAT. When aliens say take me to your leader they mean take me to the Wonka factory
I think my addiction was even worse than yours, up to 10 years ago I would drink a 2L Coca Cola bottle every single day at work. Even when I (obviously) knew what I was doing was extremely unhealthy, I was overweight, everyone was telling me etc), I had to see some parts of my body getting darker (a pre-diabetic sign) and my hands starting to tremble which had never happened before, to get scared as **** and make the change.

The change was instant btw, and I didn´t even face any withdrawal at all, just couldn´t think of drinking that garbage anymore. Getting fit and staying fit up to nowadays (and a few more healthy habits obv) was a very nice byproduct.
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10-07-2023 , 01:57 PM
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That's a big jump in volume. Don't be too hard if you don't manage to hit it. But 15K per week, considering you playing zoom, is within reach no doubt.
GL GL hero.
Gracias SkullKid :) Not sure I'll ever reach your lofty 8k/day levels but we booked 14k this week so going in the right ^^^
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10-07-2023 , 02:00 PM
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I had to see some parts of my body getting darker (a pre-diabetic sign) and my hands starting to tremble which had never happened before, to get scared as **** and make the change.
Indeed, the ‘signs’ can be quite shocking when you finally wake up. Glad you made it out. Sadly for me withdrawals are long and grueling. Feels like my whole body is being reformatted from zero.

Gets a little bit easier every time though. You get better at getting better.
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10-15-2023 , 06:20 PM
A smooth fortnight's grind. 5nlz was a satisfying whir of limp and obnoxious mind games laced with discount EV.



(Finally) some rakeback takes me back up to 10nlz. Good start. Don’t see much point in playing lower beyond this stage really. As in, at all. Ever. My real opponent right now is the last remaining holes of ABCDEFG poker. 10nlz should have the right ratio of competency and fish to iron most (EDIT: 'some') of that out.

No offence to the pool either but it feels like the challenge hasn’t started yet.

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Aren’t yellow lines brilliant? No? No. No, I’ve never thought so. Until now!




I’ve fallen head over heels for the all-in BB/100 stat. Phwoaar. Lose a flip and yet still enjoy the dopamorphic thrill of improving your winrate all-in, neutralising buckets of tilt in a single perceptual swipe. Tangible joy in the lopsided tedium of QQ v AK whichever side luck lands. Can we do this for… all spots please?

More importantly, I’ve discovered this revolutionary technique of stretching the windows of poker tracker software so that when you take a screenshot of an upswing it looks even more impressive.

I should start coaching. $3/hr


To aspect ratios, everywhere
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10-16-2023 , 10:11 PM
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More importantly, I’ve discovered this revolutionary technique of stretching the windows of poker tracker software so that when you take a screenshot of an upswing it looks even more impressive.

I should start coaching. $3/hr
$3 in the post
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11-05-2023 , 01:46 PM
Fold to 3bet 80% wtf?
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