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05-01-2022 , 05:19 PM
I agree, think that's a perfect example of a spot you just call and don't care if you lose when you're focused on winning rather than not losing.


i think i ended up folding thinking that he's never shoving to deny my river bluffs, and i dont understand why you would do this rather than just x/r turn if you want to put pressure on AK ect.. bc im just realizing eq when you delay the raises so i dont really see this as a good exploit or anything, which made me lean towards it just being stupid value. In hindsight i do wish i called tho, i can fold other 1p hands first ofc. (also bc he could have had 54 ofc)


I really want may to be a bounce back month for me, at least in terms of effort/mindset. Results are going to come, im not a crusher but i'd literally bet my ability to walk that im winning in the games so putting in volume with a good mindset should be my priority, even higher than improving my game, at least for the moment.



Goals -

35k hands on bovada

Study/review no more than 2 hours before i play my daily hands in (this is a form of avoidance for me)

Touch some grass



Will update each sunday

Last edited by Kagome; 05-01-2022 at 05:24 PM.
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05-01-2022 , 05:23 PM
hey man, nice thread

enjoying the hands

good luck
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05-01-2022 , 07:14 PM
I think folding QQ is fine regs dont bluff DB river enough esp in these tight spots. Blockers are not ideal not blocking much value and blocking some of the bluffs.

GL
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05-01-2022 , 07:30 PM
I'd be curious to see the data that says regs don't donk bet bluff enough river
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05-01-2022 , 07:39 PM


This data for SRP, but you can extrapolate to 3bp imo.
Blue color are under bluffed spots.
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05-01-2022 , 07:44 PM
Ty for that data haizemberg that's pretty interesting.


It's not something that happens often anyway, but i think the general idea of not folding strongish hands vs random lines is prob best on an anon site bc a lot of the regs are just clicking buttons.

He like snap jammed river so not sure if J meant smt to him or he just had it already planned or w/e, if im folding too much in a vacumm his play is good ofc, i think in theory playing flushes/bluffs like this is kinda ******ed but i mean hey he won the pot so cant be that bad and with it being anon it's not like i can mark him as a clicker or anything

I just checked bc played hand yday, he had 5x5c.


If i called and he had a flush i'd be talking about how i should fold to random lines bc ppl are clicking buttons so who knows : ' )
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05-01-2022 , 08:38 PM
55 wtffff

GL in May bossman
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05-02-2022 , 12:43 AM
is it possible to isolate this data by bet size? fact that Kagome bet 1/3 turn IP changes things a lot when it comes to river donk bets, you see it a lot more in that scenario in general
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05-02-2022 , 02:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Haizemberg93


This data for SRP, but you can extrapolate to 3bp imo.
Blue color are under bluffed spots.
Were do you get this kind of spreadsheat, GTOw?
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05-02-2022 , 03:42 AM
That's data from pokerdetox course. You can't filter by turn sizing, even if you could it's impossible to get the sample for small turn cbet.

It's close spot anyway, so both folding and calling seem okish.
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05-09-2022 , 04:37 PM
Had some problems with bovada, actually ended up putting money on both ignition and bovada so i have a backup client lol. Played some on the infamous untracked sites but traffic has been kinda dead. I think when im in vegas next month ill have to move most of my volume to wsop.com, but ive done a little bit of research and it seems like the games are pretty good.


Wonder if someone can guess his hand.

iPoker - $5 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 147.6 BB
SB: 100.73 BB
Hero (BB): 110.5 BB
UTG: 100 BB
MP: 105.07 BB
CO: 349.96 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 7 A

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 3 BB, fold, Hero calls 2 BB

Flop: (6.5 BB, 2 players) 9 9 7
Hero checks, BTN bets 5 BB, Hero calls 5 BB

Turn: (16.5 BB, 2 players) K
Hero checks, BTN bets 14 BB, Hero calls 14 BB

River: (44.5 BB, 2 players) 3
Hero checks, BTN bets 43.7 BB, fold

BTN wins 43.7 BB




I think jamming turn is probably better when i dont block spades, i thought by overbetting he was polarizing his range to just 2p/sets mb AJ. Even if that were true it doesnt necessarily mean i should jam less, but it seems like when ppl take larger than std sizes they are just betting big bc theyre bluffing lol so i figured just calling down was better.



iPoker - $5 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: 108.52 BB
CO: 189.3 BB
Hero (BTN): 100 BB
SB: 100.5 BB
BB: 122.18 BB
UTG: 108.54 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A J

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.5 BB, fold, BB calls 1.5 BB

Flop: (5.5 BB, 2 players) 2 6 J
BB checks, Hero bets 1.72 BB, BB raises to 6.45 BB, Hero calls 4.72 BB

Turn: (18.4 BB, 2 players) T
BB bets 26.39 BB, Hero calls 26.39 BB

River: (71.18 BB, 2 players) 8
BB bets 86.84 BB, Hero calls 64.66 BB

Hero mucks A J (One Pair, Jacks)
(Pre 62%, Flop 85%, Turn 75%)
BB shows 9 Q (Straight, Queen High)
(Pre 38%, Flop 15%, Turn 25%)
BB wins 199.7 BB



Imagine having such an uneventful week you post a hand flexing calling with 2np pair.

iPoker - $5 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 102.5 BB
BTN: 46 BB
Hero (SB): 100 BB
BB: 100 BB
UTG: 102.2 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T Q

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (6 BB, 2 players) 5 J 3
Hero bets 2.85 BB, BB calls 2.85 BB

Turn: (11.7 BB, 2 players) T
Hero checks, BB bets 8.34 BB, Hero calls 8.34 BB

River: (28.38 BB, 2 players) 8
Hero checks, BB bets 39.6 BB, Hero calls 39.6 BB

Hero shows T Q (One Pair, Tens)
(Pre 43%, Flop 27%, Turn 93%)
BB shows A 9 (High Card, Ace)
(Pre 57%, Flop 73%, Turn 7%)
Hero wins 106.98 BB



CO is a whale, think i may have missplayed this hand. Call flop to keep whale in, turn i figured i dc what BU has but i dont think a whale is folding any A to the jam. Felt kinda bad in game tho. 4b pre seems like an option bc all teh dead money and bu will be wide, but i think keeping the whale in is high prio.

iPoker - $5 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 249.79 BB
UTG: 102.78 BB
Hero (MP): 100 BB
CO: 143.34 BB
BTN: 114.13 BB
SB: 90.5 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 9 9

fold, Hero raises to 2.2 BB, CO calls 2.2 BB, BTN raises to 12.3 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 10.1 BB, CO calls 10.1 BB

Flop: (38.4 BB, 3 players) J 9 A
Hero checks, CO checks, BTN bets 13.2 BB, Hero calls 13.2 BB, CO calls 13.2 BB

Turn: (78 BB, 3 players) A
Hero checks, CO checks, BTN bets 18 BB, Hero raises to 74.5 BB, fold, BTN calls 56.5 BB

River: (227 BB, 2 players) 3

BTN shows 9 A (Full House, Aces full of Nines)
(Pre 30%, Flop 9%, Turn 100%)
Hero mucks 9 9 (Full House, Nines full of Aces)
(Pre 70%, Flop 91%, Turn 0%)
BTN wins 226.2 BB



I need to get some new preflop charts

iPoker - $5 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 100 BB
BTN: 100 BB
Hero (SB): 99 BB
BB: 101.5 BB
UTG: 98.28 BB
MP: 32.64 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A Q

UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 12 BB, fold, UTG calls 9 BB

Flop: (25 BB, 2 players) T J 9
Hero bets 7.99 BB, UTG calls 7.99 BB

Turn: (40.97 BB, 2 players) 9
Hero bets 20.09 BB, UTG calls 20.09 BB

River: (81.14 BB, 2 players) 4
Hero bets 58.93 BB, UTG calls 58.21 BB

UTG shows J 9 (Full House, Nines full of Jacks)
(Pre 40%, Flop 65%, Turn 100%)
Hero mucks A Q (One Pair, Nines)
(Pre 60%, Flop 35%, Turn 0%)
UTG wins 196.77 BB




I get kinda suspicious when ppl max tank these river spots

iPoker - $5 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (CO): 106.4 BB
BTN: 133.25 BB
SB: 85.59 BB
BB: 101.5 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A 4

Hero raises to 2.5 BB, fold, fold, BB calls 1.5 BB

Flop: (5.5 BB, 2 players) 3 5 Q
BB checks, Hero bets 3.45 BB, BB calls 3.45 BB

Turn: (12.4 BB, 2 players) 3
BB checks, Hero bets 13.57 BB, BB calls 13.57 BB

River: (39.54 BB, 2 players) 7
BB checks, Hero bets 86.88 BB, fold

Hero mucks A 4 (One Pair, Threes)

Hero wins 38.94 BB



I meant to go 1bb larger but was bad at math. Was trying to tilt AK lol.

iPoker - $5 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 50.79 BB
MP: 212.83 BB
Hero (CO): 126 BB
BTN: 107.52 BB
SB: 145.94 BB
BB: 121.7 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 9 9

fold, MP raises to 2.8 BB, Hero raises to 9 BB, fold, fold, fold, MP raises to 26.4 BB, Hero calls 17.4 BB

Flop: (54.3 BB, 2 players) 7 3 7
MP bets 13 BB, Hero calls 13 BB

Turn: (80.3 BB, 2 players) 4
MP checks, Hero bets 15.9 BB, MP calls 15.9 BB

River: (112.1 BB, 2 players) 2
MP checks, Hero checks

MP shows A K (One Pair, Sevens)
(Pre 45%, Flop 24%, Turn 14%)
Hero shows 9 9 (Two Pair, Nines and Sevens)
(Pre 55%, Flop 76%, Turn 86%)
Hero wins 111.3 BB




Think this summer will be a lot of fun. Have vegas next month, will just be playing online but want to get out of my room (and into a different room) for awhile. Hard rock seminole also has some series in August or smt, maybe punt some mtts if i can sell some, maybe meet some ppl if any of the discord folks are in town ect..

Last edited by Kagome; 05-09-2022 at 04:51 PM.
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05-10-2022 , 05:42 PM
GL Kagome.
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05-16-2022 , 05:35 PM
Thanks Ponty.


Everything has been pretty good, booked everything for vegas, gonna head down June 13th - July 17th. Meet up with some discord degenerates ect.. Going to mix some live cash in, ordered a tablet so I can play at the table as well.


Mental game has been much better, if you've worked through it recently i think it's much easier the next time around, so honestly i think it was probably a good thing for me early on. Checking results after each session now, just as a way to normalize daily swings in my mind. Logically i understand the math, but ofc it's different experiencing it, but even just in the last 2 weeks i see tons of improvement with my mindset when im playing regardless of winning/losing.


Think im finally starting to catch on how to approach an anon site. I noticed a few things in common with big winners on the network and have adopted a lot of how they approach the games. Some stuff just massively overperforms and also some stuff is pretty unnecessary as long as it doesnt isnt one of the main pool leaks ppl try to exploit, that's obvious i guess, but it took awhile for me to really internalize it and accept it. Opens up the game quite a bit more, even if it takes away some of the more nuanced/cool stuff about the game on stat sites (imo).



UL M8

iPoker - $5 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: 109.4 BB
CO: 30 BB
Hero (BTN): 165.37 BB
SB: 75.59 BB
BB: 129.3 BB
UTG: 26.22 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB, CO posts penalty blind 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.5 BB) Hero has Q A

UTG calls 1 BB, fold, CO checks, Hero raises to 6 BB, fold, BB calls 5 BB, UTG raises to 26.22 BB, fold, Hero calls 20.22 BB, BB calls 20.22 BB

Flop: (80.17 BB, 3 players) 8 A Q
BB checks, Hero bets 23.81 BB, BB calls 23.81 BB

Turn: (127.8 BB, 3 players) 9
BB checks, Hero bets 115.33 BB, BB calls 79.26 BB

River: (286.32 BB, 3 players) 9

BB shows 7 A (Two Pair, Aces and Nines)

Main Pot [80.17 BB]: (Pre 13%, Flop 1%, Turn 0%)
Side Pot#1 [206.14 BB]: (Pre 31%, Flop 1%, Turn 0%)

UTG shows K K (Two Pair, Kings and Nines)

Main Pot [80.17 BB]: (Pre 70%, Flop 11%, Turn 5%)

Hero shows Q A (Two Pair, Aces and Queens)

Main Pot [80.17 BB]: (Pre 17%, Flop 89%, Turn 95%)
Side Pot#1 [206.14 BB]: (Pre 69%, Flop 99%, Turn 100%)

Hero wins 285.52 BB




I really wanted to get the double x/r in for the memes, his turn sizing kinda bothered me tho. It's the classic well i cant be dead jam :thinking:

iPoker - $5 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 101.5 BB
UTG: 100 BB
Hero (MP): 110.75 BB
CO: 33.47 BB
BTN: 104.83 BB
SB: 168.07 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J K

fold, Hero raises to 2.2 BB, fold, BTN raises to 7 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 4.8 BB

Flop: (15.5 BB, 2 players) 3 J 4
Hero checks, BTN bets 5 BB, Hero raises to 21.32 BB, BTN calls 16.32 BB

Turn: (58.14 BB, 2 players) T
Hero checks, BTN bets 28.67 BB, Hero raises to 82.43 BB, BTN calls 47.84 BB

River: (211.15 BB, 2 players) A

Hero shows J K (Flush, Ace High)
(Pre 46%, Flop 93%, Turn 18%)
BTN shows T T (Three of a Kind, Tens)
(Pre 54%, Flop 7%, Turn 82%)
Hero wins 210.35 BB




My kryptonite

iPoker - $5 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 164.99 BB
UTG: 155.2 BB
Hero (MP): 101.6 BB
CO: 200.64 BB
BTN: 107.78 BB
SB: 202.16 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J Q

UTG raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 10 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, UTG calls 7 BB

Flop: (21.5 BB, 2 players) 6 5 2
UTG checks, Hero bets 13.66 BB, UTG calls 13.66 BB

Turn: (48.82 BB, 2 players) 6
UTG checks, Hero bets 24.01 BB, UTG calls 24.01 BB

River: (96.85 BB, 2 players) 5
UTG bets 107.53 BB, fold

UTG wins 96.05 BB



Posting bc I respect the heart trying to get someone to fold a real hand. A weaker flush or a 2 is in a shitty spot, not really sure i'd xr weak fd otf tho so dunno how great it actually is, but i mean when you have the As i guess im capped to a low ev call so makes sense.


iPoker - $5 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 147.31 BB
Hero (BB): 102.5 BB
UTG: 119.49 BB
CO: 34.43 BB
BTN: 121.56 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB, CO posts penalty blind 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.5 BB) Hero has 6 Q

UTG raises to 3 BB, CO calls 2 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 2 BB

Flop: (9.5 BB, 3 players) J 2 2
Hero checks, UTG bets 2.44 BB, fold, Hero raises to 9.39 BB, UTG calls 6.95 BB

Turn: (28.28 BB, 2 players) 7
Hero bets 9.13 BB, UTG raises to 24.3 BB, Hero calls 15.16 BB

River: (76.87 BB, 2 players) Q
Hero checks, UTG bets 82.81 BB, Hero calls 65.82 BB

UTG shows A K (One Pair, Twos)
(Pre 64%, Flop 54%, Turn 16%)
Hero shows 6 Q (Flush, Queen High)
(Pre 36%, Flop 46%, Turn 84%)
Hero wins 207.9 BB

Last edited by Kagome; 05-16-2022 at 05:41 PM.
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05-21-2022 , 06:21 PM
Bovada has been so ****ing frustrating the past 3 days...havent been able to keep a table up for more than like 50 hands and my table buyins arent being refunded until hours after i leave the table. Been at my computer for over 10 hours a day and can barely get 1k hands............................................. ...............



i can get a couple tables elsewhere but it's tilting AF to not be able to get tables/rebuy when you're running/feeling good... Currently waiting a couple hours until my buyins are refunded so i can try playing again LOL.


I swear when tables are breaking im 80% to lose a stack waiting for my sb/bb.

iPoker - $5 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 100 BB
Hero (SB): 215.25 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K J

Hero raises to 2.1 BB, BB calls 1.1 BB

Flop: (4.2 BB, 2 players) 9 T 3
BB checks, Hero bets 3 BB, BB calls 3 BB

Turn: (10.2 BB, 2 players) 8
BB checks, Hero bets 11.5 BB, BB calls 11.5 BB

River: (33.2 BB, 2 players) 3
BB checks, Hero bets 198.65 BB, BB calls 83.4 BB

Hero mucks K J (One Pair, Threes)
(Pre 63%, Flop 35%, Turn 18%)
BB shows 8 3 (Full House, Threes full of Eights)
(Pre 37%, Flop 65%, Turn 82%)
BB wins 199.8 BB

Didn't even take his sb, just left.

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Won like 4buyins in 100 hands on smaller site to kinda save the weekend if bovada doesnt sort itself out, hopefully it's back by tonight, or at least tomorrow.



lil juicer

Merge - $5 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 221.97 BB
BB: 100 BB
UTG: 40 BB
Hero (CO): 269.82 BB
BTN: 137.12 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 4 4

UTG raises to 2 BB, Hero calls 2 BB, fold, SB raises to 12 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 10 BB

Flop: (27 BB, 2 players) A 4 9
SB bets 18 BB, Hero calls 18 BB

Turn: (63 BB, 2 players) 9
SB checks, Hero bets 42 BB, SB calls 42 BB

River: (147 BB, 2 players) 8
SB checks, Hero bets 197.82 BB and is all-in, SB calls 149.97 BB and is all-in

Hero shows 4 4 (Full House, Fours full of Nines)
(Pre 54%, Flop 94%, Turn 91%)
SB shows K A (Two Pair, Aces and Nines)
(Pre 46%, Flop 6%, Turn 9%)
Hero wins 445.95 BB

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05-21-2022 , 08:53 PM
H1- Js seems like bad blocker.
H2- I don't think call pre vs 40bb stack is good.

Gl
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05-21-2022 , 09:38 PM
Thanks Haizemberg

h1 - don't think the Js is too bad, think you def want a J>Q bc his best bluffcatchers overall contain more JX than Qx bc i have more straights with the J than the queen bc J7 so blocking 1-2 fd seems insignificant compared to that

but regardless im mostly banking on ppl overfolding pair+blocker which they tend to do vs the shove. Should def be careful selecting bluffs when putting so many bbs in tho and my read could be wrong.


h2- there are big fish involved

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05-27-2022 , 03:14 PM
Merge is a hidden gem. Not a lot of action, but easy money.
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05-29-2022 , 12:35 AM
Yeah I agree, sometimes no games run at all, but when they do they're great.


Had a nice heater on carbon past few days. There's some 200 mixed in there so not up as much as the graph would indicate. I think after vegas i'm going to be more regular on the network, im pretty sure i could hold the tables if i wanted, but merge doesn't force you to play 3h so the value is kinda low when ppl can just camp your table anyway.





Bovada was unplayable for me until yesterday so i lost a decent chunk of the month, but I think I made decent use of the time. I still managed to play when i could, ended up making a lot of adjustments to my game as well. I'm fortunate to know some 1k/2k crushers on the network so i gained a lot of insight about the games and got some affirmation about my own game which always feels good.

I think i'll come in just below 25k hands for the month, but considering I missed 10+ days of my main site and did tons of off the table work i think we've managed to salvage it. I'll say that the biggest lie i've heard is that 500 is an aggro pool. I torched so much EV taking check / block lines because everyone on 2p2/twitch was talking about how 500 on bovada plays super aggro. I haven't found this to be the case at all, even after reviewing all the hole cards. There's a small subset of very aggro players overdoing some stuff (hard to punish overly aggro players when tables break so fast and the pool on avg is very nitty so ppl default to playing vs that player type) but in general i think it's way overblown.

I went for a walk last night and had a realization that im actually in a really good position. I have a lot to look forward to in terms of future opportunities and i've put in the work to have the capacity to realize that potential, at this point it's just a matter of consistency.


I want to set a short term goal and accomplish it before leaving for vegas to get some momentum on my side. I'd like to play 20k hands on bovada before I leave for vegas on the 13th.


Gonna post my daily sessions starting tomorrow and until June 13th. (i will not be playing on monday tho)

Last edited by Kagome; 05-29-2022 at 01:02 AM.
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05-29-2022 , 04:48 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kagome

I'm fortunate to know some 1k/2k crushers on the network so i gained a lot of insight about the games and got some affirmation about my own game which always feels good.
You must be friends with Marc Goone or something
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05-30-2022 , 01:05 AM
on my 20bi downswing all i could do was think that if i were as good as gethen, it wouldnt have made it past 16







First day done, i played a bit on two other sites but those combined to be like b/e +-20bb.

Will probably try to play a bit tmw as well, i forgot it's a holiday so games might be good, have plans at night tho so will just update after tuesdays session.





iPoker - $5 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 210.69 BB
Hero (CO): 100 BB
BTN: 131.98 BB
SB: 100 BB
BB: 106.11 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K Q

fold, Hero raises to 2.5 BB, fold, fold, BB raises to 12 BB, Hero calls 9.5 BB

Flop: (24.5 BB, 2 players) A 9 J
BB bets 7.89 BB, Hero calls 7.89 BB

Turn: (40.28 BB, 2 players) Q
BB bets 26.19 BB, fold

BB wins 39.68 BB


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05-30-2022 , 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Kagome
I went for a walk last night and had a realization that im actually in a really good position. I have a lot to look forward to in terms of future opportunities and i've put in the work to have the capacity to realize that potential, at this point it's just a matter of consistency.
That's great. There's definitely still plenty of money to be made in poker these days. The ceiling on profit in poker is pretty low compared to other things one could do, but it's definitely not a 'bad position' to be a very skilled poker player in 2022. In my experience, the biggest obstacle to my success is and always has been my own mind. The better I get relative to my pool, the more this is true. I can't recall a month where I didn't feel I left significant money on the table wasting energy doubting, worrying, daydreaming, or whatever. I've gotten a lot better over time, but my primary focus atm is reducing this energy drain and opportunity cost (could be grinding, or sleeping or anything actually productive).

I can remember very clearly many moments where it just hit me that if I had a shift in perspective on my situation that everything is quite good and I just need to calm down and be consistent. Sometimes that moment of insight propels me into a few months of grinding and printing, and other times the insight vanishes in an instant and I'm back to wandering my house at 2am trying to figure out what I need to change about myself/situation lol.

Don't mean to hijack at all - a lot of your experience resonates w me quite a bit. Good luck.
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05-30-2022 , 04:52 PM
I actually think as the US becomes more regulated over the next 3-5 years, the ceiling may be increasing for ppl luckily enough to be able to play in the games. Regulated sites requiring tax id's ect.. would probably lock out most of RoW players, even if a few crushers manage to get accounts it'll be pretty insulated. Considering how far behind the us regs/recs are i think the weakness of the player pool+segregation will counteract any increase in the efficiency of cheating over the same time period.

Ppl that are able to play in the interstate network or w/e you want to call it right now have pretty insane ev's. If CA ever opens up the better US regs would printing, really only limited by whatever the highest stake that regularly runs is.

It's possible this is overly optimistic, butwhether or not that is a likely outcome it defs gives me more drive/motivation to pursue the game so i'll just roll with it. Throughout my life i've always had a game be the main focus of my free time, in the past i had just played poker it was free money back then but i never really studied or anything, i usually just made enough money to **** off for awhile do do something else. Now it's really more of a drive like i've had for games in the past, so im kinda lucky it ended up like this.
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Yeah, at this point i think there is so much material out there re: strategy that getting good is hardly the issue anymore, anyone who is capable and who puts in the work will probably succeed in becoming technically proficient enough to beat at least msnl. The hardest part is just going to be conquering soft skills imo, including just being mentally resilient. When I first started playing again i did an absolutely **** job with this, i table select well ect.. but the second i hit my first rough patch i immediately fell into that pattern of self doubt and avoidance.


I think self confidence can be a tough thing to manage, on one hand you need to believe in the work you've done, you should feel like you have a pretty good edge if you're choosing to sit those games, but when things are going wrong it's easy to wonder if that confidence is actually just arrogance and you're oblivious to it.


Poker is just a tough game, you have the least direct work/skill gap:reward ratio of any other game in the short term, and unless we manage expectations it can cause some problems bc our brains have strong responses to things it perceives as injustice.

i try to just think of the game as a model that im running, for me at least it has been helping me conceptualize the importance of consistency/volume more than immediate results.

The price is random, but the drift is upwards.

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05-30-2022 , 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Kagome
i try to just think of the game as a model that im running, for me at least it has been helping me conceptualize the importance of consistency/volume more than immediate results.
Yea this is how I try to think about my behavior throughout my entire day, not just at the tables. I've found it useful for being more disciplined w my spending, nutrition, exercise, etc. Basically I find it a useful mental framework for anything where my actions are geared toward achieving long term desires (goals), but short term it might not exactly be what you feel like doing (sacrifice). It's especially useful in poker bc the short term outcomes can be so brutal and out of your control.
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05-31-2022 , 09:23 AM
idk why but that chess meme made me lol real hard

Some great introspection by you and Hokie. I basically have gone through exactly all of the things you both mentioned. Don't have much to add just that is nice to see you guys explain it so vividly.

GL in Vegas kid.
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06-01-2022 , 01:15 AM
Had a pretty brutal ending to the month unfortunately. Had to go walk around outside for like 10 min because i could feel the frustration boiling over.


I had moved most of my bovada BR to ignition bc it had been more reliable lately. Today ignition isn't working tonight but bovada is, within the first hour i bust the bovada account in pretty tilting fashion. Then as im trying to redeposit on bovada while playing my other 2 tables, i get stacked like 3 times in 50 hands and one of the tables breaks. I'm kinda just GG for the day tbh.



Think i lost like 8 buyins total in 600 hands and i just decided i'll come back fresh tomorrow.


20k hands is going to be pretty tough at this point before the 13th, i understand this isn't how goals should work, but i'm dropping it to 15k. That still puts me close to 1500 hands a day which is my goal on average anyway.




Bovada session was pretty tilting.



Maybe too thin vs fish? vs reg i'd normally just x/c, but i dont think fish find 45 or pp+diamond bluffs and also probably call more TP down.


iPoker - $5 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 99 BB
SB: 111.85 BB
Hero (BB): 106.5 BB
UTG: 100 BB
MP: 96.87 BB
CO: 110.63 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K A

fold, fold, CO raises to 2 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 12 BB, CO calls 10 BB

Flop: (24.5 BB, 2 players) 4 K 2
Hero bets 7.82 BB, CO calls 7.82 BB

Turn: (40.14 BB, 2 players) 7
Hero bets 25.5 BB, CO calls 25.5 BB

River: (91.15 BB, 2 players) 3
Hero bets 61.18 BB, CO calls 61.18 BB

Hero mucks K A (One Pair, Kings)
(Pre 59%, Flop 91%, Turn 80%)
CO shows T J (Flush, King High)
(Pre 41%, Flop 9%, Turn 20%)
CO wins 212.7 BB



No idea what he is doing. I almost typed up a paragraph explaining why i think this is bad but it just makes me look salty so instead ill just use gifs.


iPoker - $5 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 106.34 BB
BTN: 88.5 BB
Hero (SB): 100 BB
BB: 219.21 BB
UTG: 236.66 BB
MP: 140.22 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A 3

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (6 BB, 2 players) 2 4 8
Hero bets 2.85 BB, BB calls 2.85 BB

Turn: (11.7 BB, 2 players) 3
Hero checks, BB bets 8.34 BB, Hero calls 8.34 BB

River: (28.38 BB, 2 players) 4
Hero checks, BB bets 20.68 BB, Hero calls 20.68 BB

Hero mucks A 3 (Two Pair, Fours and Threes)
(Pre 34%, Flop 47%, Turn 27%)
BB shows 5 5 (Two Pair, Fives and Fours)
(Pre 66%, Flop 53%, Turn 73%)
BB wins 68.94 BB


IP












Me, thinking i played the hand better even tho i dont have the bb's









I did absolutely butcher a 4bp though tbf, i managed to have TP + NFD and still misplay it, that's the only hand im really upset about, the AK hand i think is just whatever. I don't have the HH but it's just me calling a SB c4b with A5s otb, Ahi board + NFD. I bet small flop and jammed dbl FD turn, it's a super brain dead play from me, im just letting him pretty much play perfectly by betting big there but if i'm being honest this was near the end of the session and i was already starting to steam a bit.






Sucks to have to give a negative update but sometimes it just be like that. I'll be back at it tomorrow


Day 2/14 , 1700ish / 15000



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