I would love to see an update graph

sn is the same as the forums.
I have some pretty bad tilt/steam issues or so I'm told. I take bad beats fine, I don't even notice them much with the volume I put in these days, Its just when a get a whole session or long streak of them. Alot of winnings has been lost because of it.

Tips aren't that different from general micro tips honestly just play an ABC style game, don't bluff alot and just focus on value betting. The only real adjustments I have made for rush are I play alot tighter from early position then I do non-rush because otherwise you end up playing too many hands OOP against a random which is just no fun, taking notes on your opponents is important when you hit 10NL, plenty of people that float alot. Don't really know what else to say. If you've got more specific questions I can answer them.

So would I! I've filtered to Big Blinds this time I prefer using it these days since I'm playing a mixture of 10NL and 5NL at the same time.

Update #10

Hands: 3996
Result: $12.51

Current BR: $418.92


Monthly Goals:
-GoldStar (2434/3000)

Notes:
Firstly I unlocked a $10 VIP Reward bonus (yay), nice little BR boost.

Ended up cutting the session short because Avast had an update that seemed to have flagged holdem manager and postgres (for me anyway) because it started blocking them, took me about to restart them and add them to the exclusion list for avast and then couldn't be bothered continuing with my session.

I really want to push for Goldstar and my next reward (which is the first $50 one, only requires 1000VPP to unlock), I'm also a sucker for FPP, i love having them and Goldstar will give me a nice boost in earning them.

I had two people say hello to me this session (yay!). Didn't have time to catch your names (I do 6 table zoom, cut me some slack, yeh?) But consider this a shout out to the two of you, glad your enjoying the thread!

Overall the session was pretty standard, nothing bad or exciting. I'm now looking at taking an aggressive shot at 25NL, cant wait.


Hands:

No hands, it seems when the postgres/HM were terminated they cleared any hands I had marked

Just noticed you on one of the Zoom tables ...

I have previously asked Stars to remove my chat privileges so i cannot say hi .. plus its Zoom and you would not see it anyway ..

I actually have 25 Zoom hands on you ... have you running at 4.2/4.2 and dont give me any sample size excuses

Sick graph, it's just a constant straight upwards line.
You're definitely going places.

You've figured out my secret, I actually do play at 4.2/4.2 Nice to know people following this thread are starting to recognise my yellow face on the tables!


Thanks, I hope so!

I've been slacking off on the updates lately. But I really need to get back on track. I took my aggressive shot at 25NL and had a set over set within the first dozen hands, very gross. I enjoyed playing it though, I'm going to build up to $500 this time and take a proper shot with 20BIs. I've played on and off a little since then but nothing major, time to get back to posting every session and keep myself on track.

I also managed to hit GoldStar, which was my monthly goal.

Current BR: $380.92

I have 33 hands on you now running at 15/12 now !

As bankrolls go ..we are roughly at the same place ... i have $408.

The difference is you are Gold Star whilst ive only earned 124 VPP this month .

I would have played more but im having a few problems with HEM1 and its HUD with Zoom ... im also having problems with Table Ninja ... shame really because ive never really had problems with either on the normal tables.

IVe played just under 8k hands of Zoom and up $92 and will be looking to put in a lot of hands next month..

Only one hand of note you have played with me on the table and that was when you isolated 2 EP limpers on the button only for one of them to limp / re-raise you and you called ... but folded to a shove on a T42 flop ... presume you had AK ...

Im not sure what i would do with such a hand when UTG limp raises so much ... hes just screaming a big hand and i would be tempted to just fold AK in this spot.

Your basically not going to get much value from anything upto QQ if you flop a A or K.

I will let you look over your hand history to figure out who i am .. ..PM me if you think you know.

Really interesting thread to start off, subbed!
Recently started playing zoom too, from the bottom - 2nl - that is.
Got a few questions;

I started off really well winning about 20ish BIs in 15k hands, but since then I've been on a 40k hand BE stretch playing 18/14 6% 3bet. I noticed my redline was dropping rapidly at the same time, so I figured I'm getting myself in marginal spots too much having to fold alot etc.

What's your f3b and 4bet%? And what would be a good 4bet range OOP?
Also, how would you play small PP's in EP?

GL on the challenge, looking forward to next update!

Honestly can't find the hand . I'm not very good with HEM filters but I did filter to button only and raise vs limpers looked for the flop but had no luck. I know I lost a bunch of hands with the power failure and the avast virus incident, so it was probably with them.

Yeh 15/12 is about what I am playing, I'm going to have to watch out for you :P I don't plan to maintain GoldStar, I just had the free time to earn it this month.

I have only one problem with them HEM2 HUD which is sometimes it miscounts number of hands or hours played. No issues with Table Ninja apart from one that disables auto rebuy, what is your issue with it?

I could have had AK, but I try to avoid flatting against an early limp re-raise, its always QQ+ and generally AA/KK. Its actually more likely I had 88-JJ in that spot and I'm looking to play the hand heads-up in position, after he re-raises I probably just called to set mine.


Glad to have you subbed!

I never played 2NL Zoom, so i'm not really sure how things play down there, but I imagine its similar to 5NL so this advice should still apply.

Zoom can be very much like that but considering its 2NL I feel like your breakeven patch is alittle big, you might be bleeding chips somewhere or just be in a downswing but because your beating the game so well it just means BE/slight profit (I've had that before).

I don't see anything wrong with your stats, definitely not a losing style of play. Red line can mean many things and I recently noticed mine dipping slightly, I did some reading that really helped me figure out what was going on, a negative red line isn't necessarily bad though. I recommend reading these two threads, they helped me alot:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/78...t-ever-791734/
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/78...h-baah-637589/

My fold to 3bet is 42% with my 4bet being 11%, not sure if these are good or bad, haven't really looked into those stats yet. Not sure if these stats are worth comparing for micro zoom either.

Are we talking blind vs late position raiser? If I am 4 betting OOP against mid-early opener then im only doing it with hands I want to get all in with, at 2NL i'd be willing to do it with QQ+, but as we get into 150bb+ I start playing these hands more carefully. Feel free to PM me some examples, one of my biggest problems is not being able to think about hands without seeing them in front of me (big reason why I started this thread).

As far as PPs go, I stuck with the same philosophy through all of 5NL (I don't do this at 10NL) and it seemed to work. I open raise all pocket pairs from any position because people pay off sets way too lightly. If I get called by one person I'll lead 100% of the time on your 1 high card boards, sometimes double barrelling (I wouldn't bother at 2NL though). If they 3bet me preflop I call if they have 15:1 (or so) behind them, I feel thats the right odds for you to flop a set and them to pay you off (all they need is top pair or an overpair), it could be lower or higher but I haven't actually looked into it. I will often call for less against players I know are bad (will pay me off) and only 3bet AA/KK because set guarantees getting paid and its only about 8:1.

To summarise: Set mine the crap out of it and just size your bets (hopefully even raises) to get it all in on the river. I'm not sure what 2NL is like but if you have alot of people not buying in for the full (or close to) buyin I would just fold anything lower than 5s or 7s from EP. Problem with short stacks is you don't have the odds to set mine if they call (especially since your most likely OOP) and its easy for them to shove over the top and you get forced into calling for lots of races or folding alot.

I hope not .. calling 19bb preflop when stack sizes are 100bb is not profitable .... but you know this because you just said this after ..

hehehe ... anyways, ill PM you villian's name in the hand mentioned ...should be easy to find if its in your database.

Will deff read those. So pretty much setmining flops without getting too deep pf seems key. Think I'm too afraid to commit too much since I fold against 3bet 67% and only 4bet 5,7%. I also seem to bluff too much, as you mentioned before, for most 2nl villains second pair is enough to call down all streets, so my double/triple barrells hardly ever seem to work.

Anyway, I don't want to hijack your thread Do you have skype by chance?
Would be nice to have someone to talk zoomstrategy with every now and then

Ah ha! I found the hand, turns out I had pocket 8s, It was a bad call preflop looking at stack sizes now, I think I just barely had the odds to flop a set, looks like I was getting roughly 7:1, maybe. But I've got 500 hands on villian and hes marked as very weak (hes also got limp, re-raise on his notes now!), so I knew set meant pay day and he proved it by opening shoving on the flop.

Just one of those mistakes you make when you 6 table zoom, got to stop them!

Still no idea who you are, I'm guessing if you watched the hand you might have been in the blinds or the other limper.


Yeh bluffing is generally pointless at 2 and 5NL, they don't let go of a pair so you want to basically cbet and shutdown more often than not. The few times they let it go to a 2nd barrell is no where near the number of times they just call you down. Money is made by big fat value.

I wouldn't worry about your fold to 3bet, I flat alot of 3bets with PPs because people at 5/10NL are mostly very deep (I rarely see someone under 100bb), provided they have my 15:1 requirement of course. Also alot of that 4betting is generally from late position against a blind 3bet, I've got a bunch of people marked that 3bet alot out of the blinds against late position. In 2NL I don't see people doing that, so you want to only be 4betting your top QQ+. Where as in 10NL i'll 4bet bluff alot against the right opponent.

I don't use Skype, but i'm always happy to receive PMs. I also discuss plenty of strategy here and I also recommend checking out the Zoom poker thread, it gains a few pages everyday with plenty of zoom strategy. (link is in my very first post of this thread).

Good stuff! Might just send you some HHs in future. GLGL!

You accusing me of limping in EP ??? ... I dont think ive limped in when its folded to me in a hand for as long as i can remember.

I only saw this hand after checking your name in my database ....i was indeed a folder ... but what can you do with 73o ?

Ok .. a few obvious problems here and i presume this is full ring ?..

One thing to not worry about at 2nl or 5nl is 3 betting and 4 betting ,falling red lines and fold to 3bet / 4 bets.

I would also stop trying to run over the tables and trying to get players that never fold to well ...... FOLD

You have already realised one other problem and that your playing too loose preflop and not quite knowing what to do post flop ... so tighten up your range and keep the tough post flop situations to a minimal.

Here is a quote from a COTW thread that you should find interesting.

Here are links to two threads about 3 betting.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/78...etting-436868/

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/78...3-bets-483541/

Ah that makes sense, I thought you may have recognised me and decided to watch the hand play out after I raised the limpers. Didn't figure you were going to be limping from EP lol.

You can do lots of things with 73o

Yeah, I'm pretty sure I'm just leveling myself most of the time. Gotta focus on beating the players rather than the game I guess
Will read through the threads, and that quote pretty much sums it up too.
Thanks for the feedback!
/Hijack off
*Edit: Full Ring indeed.

mate how much VPP/hand do u get from nl5 and nl10 ZOOM?

HEM2 tells me its 0.04

Update #11

Hands: 2671
Result: -$0.92

Current BR: $380


Notes:
Bankroll at an exact number, thats a sign of something surely? Session was pretty straight forward, few hands to discuss. I ended up stopping because Zoom was extremely laggy (whether it was zoom or me, im not sure), but it was barely playable, it would freeze for about 10-15seconds then everything would start beeping at me, just not fun and very frustrating to try and play.

I noticed that PS has a 50% reload bonus, im thinking of taking advantage of it (any opinions?). I'll probably deposit around $300 or something which comes with a $150 bonus. It clears at 200VPP/$10 which is about 1-1.5 sessions for me. I'd keep the deposit separate to my BR and withdraw it at some stage (leaving the bonus), it will be a nice boost.


Hands:

I've been trying to work on getting more value for my hands and this one was a fail, I feel I should be re-raising here, but not sure. I mean it was in 5NL so people might call with a weaker flush/over pair. at higher though whats gonig to call me here?



Just another hand where I probably should have bet again. Its hard when the pot gets so big though and I could be beat, but its 5NL, I feel more often than not I'm prob good.




I felt leading here was the best way to build a pot and get paid, opinions?





The only 10NL hand for this session that I have to show, you'd swear it was 5NL.



Sorry hand comments were alittle rushed, low on time.

playing Nl5 zoom myself. gl at the tables

Im contemplating putting $500 into Stars which i think is roughly £310 and going for the full $250 bonus.

I have 30 days to clear it and reach 5000 VPP's ... im not sure how many hands of $10nl FR Zoom that is ..

Considering my record ever is 35k hands in a month ... i feel a one off challenge coming on !

Yeh I calculated it roughly based on the volume I planned to put in and $300 was the max I could pull off. I should probably just do the $500 though, i'll just need to find the money lol. I reckon its about 100-125k hands, I'm getting 0.04VPP a hand with 2 5NL tables, so only playing 10NL would be slightly higher, maybe 0.05

Update #11

Hands: 3589
Result: -$25.50

Current BR: $354.40


Notes:
Been a while since I've had a bad session, so I guess I was due, EV was $2 positive I stopped the session early because it seems all of PokerStars went down, rush just froze up, could still talk to the people on the table though. Couldn't get into cashier and stuff though, spose I'll find out the story tomorrow on that.


Hands:

Unsure about this hand, we are both very deep. I definitely feel I have to lead the flop here when he flats, he's probably either set mining, or has JJ/QQ/KK and will fold, or hes got AK/AA. I feel like if i check, hes going to bet nearly all the time and force me to fold.




Just cause I'm annoyed at my session, i'll share.