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Old 06-09-2010, 12:20 PM   #101
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Re: $500 to $5k this summer

calling 4bets 100bb deep is bad, and that 99 hand is spewy
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Old 06-09-2010, 12:49 PM   #102
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calling 4bets 100bb deep is bad, and that 99 hand is spewy
Yeah I completely agree, I had a lot of history with the guy that 4bet me, I almost shoved but he was never calling with worse so I just called.

The 99 hand, I really felt he had the lone A or a hand like JT/QT so I wanted to get him off it. A small raise wont work so I shipped it. Really bad in hindsight but I learn from hands like this even if I win.
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Old 06-09-2010, 01:30 PM   #103
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Re: $500 to $5k this summer

LOLDONKBETZ i LOVE your avatar, you seem to take such a good care of your fish lol
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Old 06-09-2010, 01:33 PM   #104
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Re: $500 to $5k this summer

Good Luck Bro! stick with BRM the whole time and you will be fine
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Old 06-09-2010, 03:22 PM   #105
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Good Luck Bro! stick with BRM the whole time and you will be fine
Thanks, sticking with BRM is one of my strenghts. I hate the thought of losing all my money so that will not be happening
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Old 06-09-2010, 07:00 PM   #106
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Re: $500 to $5k this summer

Played 824 hands tonight, won $21.74

Total BR now at $1095.92

Thats two $50 days in a row now, hopefully I am back on track.

Pretty sure kings are cursed for me


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Hero (BB): $53.95
BTN/SB: $9.28

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BB with K K
BTN/SB raises to $0.75, Hero raises to $2, BTN/SB raises to $9.28 all in, Hero calls $7.28

Flop: ($18.56) Q 5 3

Turn: ($18.56) A

River: ($18.56) 3

Final Pot: $18.56
Hero shows K K (two pair, Kings and Threes)
BTN/SB shows A K (two pair, Aces and Threes)
BTN/SB wins $18.06
(Rake: $0.50)


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BB: $8.75
UTG: $49.70
UTG+1: $25.00
Hero (UTG+2): $39.46
MP1: $20.06
MP2: $16.11
CO: $25.00
BTN: $25.00
SB: $25.00

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is UTG+2 with K K
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, MP1 calls $0.75, MP2 calls $0.75, 2 folds, SB calls $0.65, BB calls $0.50

Flop: ($3.75) T 4 8 (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $3, MP1 folds, MP2 calls $3, SB folds, BB folds

Turn: ($9.75) 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $35.71 all in, MP2 calls $12.36 all in

River: ($34.47) 8 (2 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: $34.47
Hero shows K K (two pair, Kings and Eights)
MP2 shows 7 6 (a straight, Ten high)
MP2 wins $32.75
(Rake: $1.72)


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BTN: $25.00
Hero (SB): $28.45
BB: $56.24
UTG: $25.00
UTG+1: $9.18
MP1: $30.06
MP2: $25.00
CO: $25.68

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with T T
2 folds, MP1 raises to $0.50, 1 fold, CO requests TIME, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.40, 1 fold

Flop: ($1.25) 6 4 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP1 checks

Turn: ($1.25) 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $1, MP1 raises to $2.50, Hero calls $1.50

River: ($6.25) T (2 players)
Hero requests TIME, Hero checks, MP1 bets $3, Hero requests TIME, Hero raises to $25.45 all in, MP1 calls $22.45

Final Pot: $57.15
Hero shows T T (a full house, Tens full of Sixes)
MP1 mucks 6 A
Hero wins $54.30
(Rake: $2.85)
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Old 06-10-2010, 05:29 PM   #107
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Re: $500 to $5k this summer

i love this thread!!! im thinking of starting grinding some FR, but i will start at the lowest stake, i have quite a bit of poker experience, but im afraid of losing, thats why i want to start grind on the lowest stakes...

so my question is, i have only played 6max before, what is the biggest difference you think? what are you doing to, for example QQ if you get 3bet pre flop? also can you play by the "rule" "players at the low stakes doesnt bluff" ?

would really apreciate some good tips, also from TwoThirtyTwo, you seem to know what you are talking about ;P
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Old 06-10-2010, 06:21 PM   #108
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i love this thread!!! im thinking of starting grinding some FR, but i will start at the lowest stake, i have quite a bit of poker experience, but im afraid of losing, thats why i want to start grind on the lowest stakes...

so my question is, i have only played 6max before, what is the biggest difference you think? what are you doing to, for example QQ if you get 3bet pre flop? also can you play by the "rule" "players at the low stakes doesnt bluff" ?

would really apreciate some good tips, also from TwoThirtyTwo, you seem to know what you are talking about ;P
I would say the bigggest difference from 6max is that you will get outkicked more often, so hands like KJ/KT/QJ, good starting hands in 6max, should be folded in FR unless you are stealing, KQ can even be a problem hand if your facing aggression with top pair. Set mining becomes more important, as you will get paid off more often. SC's can be great in multiway pots of 4 or more, but you dont get those pots often on FT at least.

As for your QQ question, usually I will just flat v a 3bet with QQ to see a flop and how my oppent reacts.
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Old 06-10-2010, 06:28 PM   #109
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Re: $500 to $5k this summer

Played 1241 hands today, won $18.89, didn't win any pots over 60BB's but didn't lose any over 50BB's so it was a fairly steady day.

Still losing with kings though

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BTN: $25.47
SB: $8.96
BB: $8.15
Hero (UTG): $29.41
UTG+1: $8.75
UTG+2: $25.00
MP1: $38.62
MP2: $31.42
CO: $18.22

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is UTG with K K
Hero raises to $1, UTG+1 calls $1, 2 folds, MP2 calls $1, 4 folds

Flop: ($3.35) 4 9 7 (3 players)
Hero bets $2.50, UTG+1 folds, MP2 calls $2.50

Turn: ($8.35) 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 checks

River: ($8.35) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets $2.25, Hero calls $2.25

Final Pot: $12.85
Hero mucks K K
MP2 shows T T (a straight, Ten high)
MP2 wins $12.21
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Old 06-10-2010, 06:48 PM   #110
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Re: $500 to $5k this summer

okay than you for the answer, lets say you flat and the flopp is 3 undercard, to a 3bet on the flop what are you doing then? lets say you dont have any info about the player... and TPTK vs a 3bet on flop/turn, what do you think you should do on the lower stakes?
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Old 06-10-2010, 08:01 PM   #111
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okay than you for the answer, lets say you flat and the flopp is 3 undercard, to a 3bet on the flop what are you doing then? lets say you dont have any info about the player... and TPTK vs a 3bet on flop/turn, what do you think you should do on the lower stakes?
With no info its really though to say, If he has a full stack I will call a flop bet but probably muck it if he fires again on the turn. After 10 hands I will have a decent read on most players though so there is usually some info. At NL2/5 getting it in is almost always right.
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Old 06-11-2010, 02:41 AM   #112
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Re: $500 to $5k this summer

okay sounds about right, why dont you play more then 6 tables? when you playing are you playing ABC poker? and aslo do you think FR game is the best way to play if you dont like big swing, i would rather win small every day, and have big swings, so what do you recommend?
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Old 06-11-2010, 09:05 AM   #113
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okay sounds about right, why dont you play more then 6 tables? when you playing are you playing ABC poker? and aslo do you think FR game is the best way to play if you dont like big swing, i would rather win small every day, and have big swings, so what do you recommend?
Yeah i'm playing on a 14 inch laptop screen so 6 is about the most i can do comfortably, have tried 8 and didn't go great so i'll stick with 6. FR is prolly the least swingy alright, but it takes more volume to make a profit obv.

Played a quick session just now and got down about $20, was playing a fish heads up then for a while as one of the tables broke and he hit every hand, no kidding, lost about $30 to him, then lost a few more pots on other tables, so down about $55. I just gave up then cos I was getting properly tilted :/
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Old 06-11-2010, 09:25 AM   #114
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okay, do you think it easier to read people on FR games compared to 6max? since there ranges are smaller... or can you explain why you think FR is smaller swings
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Old 06-11-2010, 09:41 AM   #115
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Yeah definetly easier to put people on a very small range of hands, and because you are not playing many speculative hands you wont see huge swings. For example playing heads up you are playing say 60% of hands, some days they will hit 70% of the time, other days 30% of the time, so resluts will vary based on this. In FR you are only playing 15% of hands, and you dont necessaraly need to hit to win a pot. Of course there will be swings, but the worst I have experienced in 50k hands of NL25 is less than 5 BI's, small sample of course.
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Old 06-11-2010, 10:50 AM   #116
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Of course there will be swings, but the worst I have experienced in 50k hands of NL25 is less than 5 BI's, small sample of course.
You could definitely see swings greater than 5 buy-ins in the long run, but depending on your WR, and the stakes you play, you should really never see more than 10-15. At NL25, 5 buy-in swing should be about the worst you see assuming you are a competent player.

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Old 06-11-2010, 11:47 AM   #117
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Re: $500 to $5k this summer

okay thank for those advice, and you all recommend cash game s the most profitable with the smallest swings compared to sitngos?
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Old 06-11-2010, 02:17 PM   #118
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okay thank for those advice, and you all recommend cash game s the most profitable with the smallest swings compared to sitngos?
tbh S&G's might have even less variance if your playing single tables (mainly bacause you have less money in one S&G than you have on one cash table). A lot of people have very solid winrates at S&G's and that is where I started playing/building my roll. Back a couple of years ago I had a 40% roi on $5 10 man S&G's on a euro site, those games were so soft!
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Old 06-11-2010, 03:32 PM   #119
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Re: $500 to $5k this summer

okay, but you dont think there are alot mot fishes at cash tables then sitngos? and were do you think a solid player has the biggest edge? if i start with trying out sitngos, how many games do you think i need to have a pretty good sample of where i stand?
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Old 06-11-2010, 04:25 PM   #120
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Re: $500 to $5k this summer

Lately cash game seems to be more popular, so theres a good chance more fish are in sng's.

Though, lowstakes cash game(I'd say 2nl, 5nl, maybe further) will always have fishes of course. But hard to maintain a great hourly at that level unless you are mass multitabling, or just crushing it.

You'd need to play a few thousand sng's to have a good feel of how you're doing there.

In my opinion(I play sngs), if you have a good preflop game(push/fold game), are good with your shove/call ranges, then sng's are the way to go.
If you like postflop play, cash game.
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Old 06-11-2010, 06:43 PM   #121
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Re: $500 to $5k this summer

Ok I made a nice comeback today, finished the day up $17 so not bad considering I was down $55 earlier


Biggest losses for the day

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BTN: $25.25
Hero (SB): $26.11
BB: $17.65
UTG: $28.38
UTG+1: $25.00
MP1: $25.00
MP2: $10.70
CO: $26.97

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with 6 6
2 folds, MP1 raises to $0.84, 1 fold, CO calls $0.84, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.74, BB calls $0.59

Flop: ($3.36) 6 8 J (4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, MP1 bets $2.28, CO folds, Hero raises to $6.50, BB calls $6.50, MP1 requests TIME, MP1 folds

Turn: ($18.64) J (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $10.31 all in, Hero calls $10.31

River: ($39.26) 2 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $39.26
Hero shows 6 6 (a full house, Sixes full of Jacks)
BB shows 8 8 (a full house, Eights full of Jacks)
BB wins $37.30
(Rake: $1.96)


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BTN: $14.50
Hero (SB): $29.19
BB: $13.54
UTG: $25.85
UTG+1: $25.60
MP: $31.70
CO: $35.94

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with A A
5 folds, Hero raises to $0.65, BB calls $0.40

Flop: ($1.30) 6 9 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.85, BB calls $0.85

Turn: ($3.00) 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $1.75, BB raises to $3.50, Hero calls $1.75

River: ($10.00) 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $5, Hero requests TIME, Hero calls $5

Final Pot: $20.00
Hero mucks A A
BB shows 6 T (three of a kind, Sixes)
BB wins $19.00
(Rake: $1.00)


Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 7 players
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Hero (BB): $25.00
UTG: $45.46
UTG+1: $8.97
MP: $25.67
CO: $35.32
BTN: $28.21
SB: $16.87

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BB with A T
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.25, 4 folds, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.60) T 3 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $0.50, Hero raises to $1.50, UTG+1 calls $1

Turn: ($3.60) 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $3, Hero raises to $12.60, UTG+1 calls $4.22 all in

River: ($18.04) 8 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $18.04
Hero shows A T (a pair of Tens)
UTG+1 shows 3 3 (three of a kind, Threes)
UTG+1 wins $17.14
(Rake: $0.90)

And biggest wins

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UTG+2: $25.13
MP1: $29.25
MP2: $24.65
CO: $21.81
BTN: $4.55
Hero (SB): $28.74
BB: $25.00
UTG: $15.00
UTG+1: $21.31

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with K A
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.25, 3 folds, CO calls $0.25, BTN calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.50, 2 folds, CO calls $1.25, BTN raises to $4.55 all in, Hero raises to $28.74 all in, CO requests TIME, CO calls $20.31 all in

Flop: ($48.67) 6 Q 9

Turn: ($48.67) 6

River: ($48.67) A

Final Pot: $48.67
CO shows 7 7 (two pair, Sevens and Sixes)
BTN shows 7 J (a pair of Sixes)
Hero shows K A (two pair, Aces and Sixes)
Hero wins $32.79
Hero wins $13.45
(Rake: $2.43)


Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
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UTG+2: $8.40
MP1: $25.00
Hero (MP2): $25.00
CO: $7.31
BTN: $29.00
SB: $25.87
BB: $34.82
UTG: $25.00
UTG+1: $24.35

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is MP2 with T T
UTG raises to $1, 3 folds, Hero calls $1, 4 folds

Flop: ($2.35) 7 A T (2 players)
UTG bets $1.50, Hero raises to $4.50, UTG calls $3

Turn: ($11.35) K (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $6.25, UTG calls $6.25

River: ($23.85) 9 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $13.25 all in, UTG calls $13.25 all in

Final Pot: $50.35
Hero shows T T (three of a kind, Tens)
UTG mucks A Q
Hero wins $47.84
(Rake: $2.51)


Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
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MP1: $29.84
MP2: $19.24
CO: $25.85
Hero (BTN): $25.00
SB: $39.62
BB: $28.80
UTG: $15.08
UTG+1: $12.19
UTG+2: $25.77

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with Q A
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.25, 2 folds, MP2 calls $0.25, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1.25, 1 fold, BB calls $1, 2 folds

Flop: ($3.10) A 2 6 (2 players)
BB bets $2.25, Hero calls $2.25

Turn: ($7.60) 7 (2 players)
BB bets $3, Hero raises to $7.50, BB raises to $14, Hero requests TIME, Hero raises to $21.50 all in, BB calls $7.50

River: ($50.60) 7 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $50.60
Hero shows Q A (two pair, Aces and Sevens)
BB shows 8 8 (two pair, Eights and Sevens)
Hero wins $48.07
(Rake: $2.53)

My overall graph for 22 days


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Old 06-11-2010, 06:46 PM   #122
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Re: $500 to $5k this summer

okay, thanks alot Christophersen =) when you play sitngo, do you play 6max or FR? and also what stats are you playing? VPIP/PFR/AF, and if playing FR, can you tell me some tricky hands, in different situation, like small pocket pairs in early pos etc.
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Old 06-11-2010, 06:48 PM   #123
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Lately cash game seems to be more popular, so theres a good chance more fish are in sng's.

Though, lowstakes cash game(I'd say 2nl, 5nl, maybe further) will always have fishes of course. But hard to maintain a great hourly at that level unless you are mass multitabling, or just crushing it.

You'd need to play a few thousand sng's to have a good feel of how you're doing there.

In my opinion(I play sngs), if you have a good preflop game(push/fold game), are good with your shove/call ranges, then sng's are the way to go.
If you like postflop play, cash game.
Yeah I agree, if you like the pre flop/math aspect of the game S&G's are the way to go. So many people at low stakes S&G's havent a clue what ICM is so learn that and your sorted. There is less though decisions also (basically push or fold after a while) meaning you can multitable more tables.
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Old 06-11-2010, 06:56 PM   #124
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okay i will try that out, but how do you guys play in the early stage?
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Old 06-11-2010, 07:40 PM   #125
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Re: $500 to $5k this summer

and also what kind of sitngos do you think is the easiest and most profitable, 6max or 10, or 20 or even 30 players?

and i have sitngo wizard, and when i ran the quiz and make a wrong move, i can click up "opponent handrang vs diff" chart, how do you read a chart like that?
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