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11-30-2012 , 12:13 PM
cant wait to see that final push !
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12-01-2012 , 01:43 AM
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/hijackingthreadforaznlove





Stop being so lazy lol, that's one ****ing tough December ahead for you. GL!
Gotta be honest and say I'm not of a white girl person, although these gifs are cute

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wat?

gl with december grind, you can do it!
Thanks

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Add another vote for terrible.

Stop procrasturbating and get on with it.
Hahah, will try.. will try.

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hf in december i hope that u are too lazy and have to grind christmas and new year`s eve etc. because of that
My family never really celebrated Christmas and New Years, so no big deal. That being said would love to spend some more time with friends, especially for New Years. I think the first half of New Years NZ time is still December 31st in PokerStars clock, but I think it's close to 100% that I'll be done by then. Still hoping for a finish before December 25th though.

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How do you react to people's reactions that you earn as much money as you do at your age playing poker? few examples?
Hey, interesting question.. In general I try to stay fairly low-key and don't really like people outside of poker knowing about my finances. My close friends mostly know that I'm generally doing well but even then I don't really go into numbers unless they specifically ask. It's kind of obvious to most people I know (from school etc) that I'm doing reasonably well, I guess I posted quite a lot of travelling photos/updates on Facebook for example.

In general most people are a bit envious/jealous as you can imagine, but my closest friends are mostly doing very well academically and will likely have pretty secure and fairly high paying jobs eventually (maybe not in comparison to poker, but say low 6-figures eventually etc), they are doing fairly well in law, med school and so on, so it's not that big of a deal. They are pretty intelligent and like me realize there are upsides and downsides to poker in the long-run. I don't spend too much in general, with the exception of travelling I guess. I also eat out quite a lot and like semi-fine or fine dining, but really enjoy talking my closer friends out once in a while to a nice place.

I'm not really sure what else to say but people I don't know so well who are envious kinda imply comments like "must be nice" (not in a spiteful way or anything), etc.. As mentioned above I don't really talk about how much I made this year, or my hourly or things like that. People I don't know so well (people I've met in travels, couchsurfed with and so on) have sometimes commented on it being cool that I'm playing poker for a living or whatever but I'd imagine their estimation would be quite a bit lower, or they just don't think about it.

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I'll donate $50 to a charity if you clear this. Disgusting grind.

GL man. Enjoy your vids, too.
Hey thanks a lot, appreciate that. Obviously it's not binding but that would be pretty cool, I think I'm going to end up donating a bit for DotA/Deserts then offer to donate a bit more (with a cap) if people ITT donate some, so basically I'll pay X and then match up to Y, will talk about that later though. I will be upfront now to not be misleading and say I'm probably not going to donate a really massive amount, so maybe something like $500 total, maybe a bit more.

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Originally Posted by flybine_03
cant wait to see that final push !
Thanks, it will be interesting.

Played a little today (not enough..!) but hoping to start doing 10K VPP+ days again soon. During peak was getting quite good volumes, managed to only load 200s and still get nearly 20 tables some of the time which was nice for VPPs.

Getting into Summer in New Zealand, so starting to get a little hot. I know most people are the opposite but personally I prefer a mild, somewhat chilly climate to how sunny days in general, but not going to complain about nice weather I guess, lol.

Sample size is really small for now, still, but curious how my finish distribution will end up in the long-run. I know from decent samples in the past (in 6m regular or turbos, 9mans or even 180s etc) that I generally have a fairly top heavy style (that is to say significantly more 1sts than 2nds, as opposed to evenish 1sts and 2nds), but not sure about the rest. Most people will be aware of this, but just to clarify, if someone has a lot more 1sts than 2nds, it doesn't mean their ROI is higher than someone who has similar 1sts to 2nds, necessarily. For example someone could win 20%, come second 10%, or come 1st and 2nd both 15% etc. Don't really care I guess, and all that really matters is actual winnings, but I guess I get interested at that kind of stuff. I wouldn't be too surprised if my 4-5th stay a little higher than my 3rd though as I tend to play a bit looser in general than a lot of regs, so that forces more all-ins earlier (and therefore busts), in exchange for bigger stacks more often and eventually firsts maybe.



Got a little over 700K VPP now

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12-01-2012 , 03:01 AM
GL homie
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12-01-2012 , 03:27 AM
Not sure exactly what you said in reply to me, but it must be because your head is buzzing from the solid grind ahead. GL
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12-01-2012 , 03:35 AM
Oops, not much of a white girl person*
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12-01-2012 , 03:50 AM
how many vpps next year?


2m?
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12-01-2012 , 06:27 AM
Hmm undecided, I have a lot of options but haven't really thought about them all in detail yet. I'll probably go into more detail after making SNE this year, but basically 1M is the minimum, not sure about more.
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12-01-2012 , 11:24 PM
Ugh internet is being a piece of crap, had a few minutes where I disconnected then had lag, luckily I have my iPhone as a backup wireless connection and it was pretty fast to connect (still takes maybe 30-45 seconds, which isn't insignificant)..

Session went kinda bad today but started way worse, made a slight comeback towards the end. At some point I was down $5K, ended 'only' down $1.4K so feels good.
Might play a bit more today but we will see!

Since starting the challenge my sample size of hands is starting to get somewhat decent, so I might eventually run some filters to see how some of my plays in specific situations are doing and adjust if something seems particularly unprofitable etc.. Will be interesting, but hate study, heh.

Results with SNE rakeback (60%) since starting the challenge, VPP count and lifetime 60-200s pre-rakeback.


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12-01-2012 , 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Zima421
how many vpps next year?


2m?
To expand my answer a bit, basically next year I am 99% going to get SNE again (assuming I finish it this year, which I think is close to 100%) because 2nd time onwards you get an extra 1.5 (FPP multiplier) x 5.5 (VPP/$) x 1.6 (FPP/Cent value) = 13.2% extra rakeback, so that's like an extra $24K compared to the first time. Zima I know you're aware of this but just clarifying for others who might not be. Anyway, I have a few options, and will decide depending on what I work out with my backer, how my results are by the end of this year for hypers and a few other factors.

I have the option to just play fairly relaxed, not too many tables/being able to game select a bit more (never really done that lol) etc, and probably/hopefully do reasonably well pre-rakeback, and just get 1M. I might play 4 tables "only" of Zoom, focus and work on my game, get coaching etc and just try crush. I might also play some regular tables at mid-stakes up to 5/10 and maybe look at playing some higher if/when it goes well etc.

Eitherway I'm planning to hopefully play some Sunday MTT sessions and some series like TCOOP, SCOOP, WCOOP and I guess FTOPs. Might miss most of TCOOP because it's the same time as Aussie Millions though..

The other option is to play hypers, and play quite a bit of tables and get SNE/1M really easy, then re-evaluate from there how many more to get. I might decide to just continue playing hypers and get heaps of VPPs like 2M or something, or maybe after getting SNE I'll do what I mentioned above (like few tables, game select and try crush pre-RB). Just not sure.

I've said this to a few people but I'm quite happy that my skill set is pretty diverse, it allows a huge room for maneuverability in general and moving games etc to not get too drained/tired from playing one game too much etc. That being said I still don't consider myself close to a top player at one particular format (like MTT, SNG etc), at the higher stakes so working on my game and focusing on something might be cool.
I think in general it looks like my hourly will be better playing hypers but as I mentioned in a previous thread I feel in the long run playing cash games will be better for me as a poker player because in general it's much more complex, deep and competitive. Being better at cash will also mean you get better at MTTs (especially deeper structures, i.e. most higher buy-ins both online and live) etc. I dunno, they both have a big list of disadvantages and advantages compared to each other..

On that note I am #1 in average profit for 100 game stretch for 15-35 180s this year (what a random achievement) on SharkScope, so hopefully I'll hold my diamond star! (No Jinx ) I played 35s with my MTTs in a few Sundays in a row and ran really good, won at least one for a few weeks in a row I think. Will post a graph of that later if I hold for 1st! Average was 94.20 over 100 games heh.
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12-02-2012 , 12:01 AM
your gonna propbet all your FPP on yourself with new stars vip system?
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12-02-2012 , 12:16 AM
Lol, will see what exactly it's about but I imagine it won't be anything too big. Sounds like it could be fun though, and maybe +EV so we'll see
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12-02-2012 , 03:27 AM
I've already officially confirmed your taste in women is... odd. Threadsavers mostly suck, too.

Maybe hire someone to post them?
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12-02-2012 , 03:57 AM
Why do you play backed? Is it just a psychological thing?
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12-02-2012 , 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Camzace
I've already officially confirmed your taste in women is... odd. Threadsavers mostly suck, too.

Maybe hire someone to post them?
Lol most 2p2 ones suck harder imo

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Why do you play backed? Is it just a psychological thing?
Quite a few reasons, in general psychological/mindset is part of it for sure, but specifically this year I wanted to play quite a few higher buy in games to reach elite as well as get better by getting the experience most of which I wouldn't really be comfortable playing on my own roll.
I do realise playing small on my own roll could net a similar hourly with lower variance/stress, or even higher, but factored these things into consideration and preferred getting backed.

Next year it's quite similar really, I wanna play some higher stuff like COOP, FTOPs, 200 hypers, higher stake SNG 6m turbos and stuff like that, most of which I wouldn't comfortably play even with say 50K bankroll. I wanna set aside some money for a potential stable etc as well, and overall think it's the most +EV decision for me, at the moment at least. It also helps I'll get a better than standard cut (probably won't go into too much detail about this for now at least), since being SNE just makes it so hard for backer to lose money when the player is +EV pre rakeback overall.

Gonna play some today, as far as I know hypers aren't great on Sundays cause a lot of fish play MTTs and stuff but whateverrrrrrr.
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12-02-2012 , 09:43 PM
Wee, had a nice little heater today



Started around -$2000, ended up +5820.19
Leading the high orbit for BOP too, my score woulda got 3rd last week so hoping for a 500+ bonus at the end of the week.
I'm running really good at 200s it seems, up like 16.7K at 200s since starting the challenge, down 900 at 60s (but only 250 games) and down 2k in 100s.
EV is still above zero which is cool too.

716677VPPs

Hopefully will play a little more today and reach at least 72K, maybe 72.5..
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12-02-2012 , 11:26 PM
Congrats on the rungoods! May it continue for another 23 days or so

Still an lol sample but I find it pretty impressive you are maintaining a positive EV roi playing the amount of games you are without a ton of experience in these specific games. GL to you!
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12-03-2012 , 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by LTT777
Congrats on the rungoods! May it continue for another 23 days or so

Still an lol sample but I find it pretty impressive you are maintaining a positive EV roi playing the amount of games you are without a ton of experience in these specific games. GL to you!
Thanks man, I'm pleased with it but will see how it goes. You're right that I didn't have a tonne of experience going into them, but I had played a decent amount before (like 2K+, and 3K or so at 30$), as well as a lot of SNGs, some CAP and MTTs too so I just kinda had to piece the skillsets together heh.

Had a really short session just now, up a few hundred I think.

718385VPP hoping to play one more hour later to get to 720, and if traffic picks up (it sucks really bad around this hour) maybe a little more.
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12-03-2012 , 03:26 AM
gl op, been lurking this thread for a while

How do you find the motivation to keep grinding through out the day? I get really bored after 3hours+ of play
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12-03-2012 , 03:30 AM
Thanks,

Tbh I don't really have a great amount of motivation which is why for the last few days I've mostly played 4 hours or less. It's really tiring to play hypers with so many decisions within a short amount of time, and clicking that many buttons that fast sometimes makes it's a bit harder too. But overall I guess the answer is I know it needs to be done, and it would be foolish to give up so much money, so I have to do it lol. Given the approximate/EV hourly I am making at the moment, I have a much lower net worth/life roll than other people with similar hourlies or even lower so I guess the money is a bigger motivation to me than some.

That being said I still sometimes wish I appreciated my fortune/situation/opportunity a bit more, because I know there are people in the world (again, not even talking about people in poverty) who would make way more out of it and grind like 80 hours+ a week or something lol.
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12-03-2012 , 04:31 AM
Thanks for answering.

GL the rest of the way.
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12-03-2012 , 04:09 PM
Best of luck omg.
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12-03-2012 , 06:29 PM
Gl
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12-04-2012 , 12:42 AM
Gogogooo
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12-04-2012 , 08:52 PM
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Thanks for answering.

GL the rest of the way.
Np. Happy to answer any questions from anyone (within reason, like for example I won't go into heaps of detail about my strategy or something probably)

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Best of luck omg.
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Gl
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Gogogooo
Thanks guys

Played not that much in the last couple of days but got 732850VPPs now. Trying to aim for an absolute minimum of 10K VPPs each day, and gonna get more when possible to compensate for the days where I slack off, and also so I can try finish early!

I dropped like 4k back yesterday and won 1.2k in the last hour.. Probably going to go out and play a bit more later. But that rakeback really adds up, pretty sick. I guess you can look at it two ways, and say that paying so much rake to begin with is even sicker lol.

A bunch of reg fish keep chatting to me but I sadly can't reply a lot of the time because I've usually got 20 or more tables at the moment since I'm playing during peakish times, mostly..
I do highly encourage any regs reading this to be friendly with fish, replying to their questions, saying gl, gg and stuff like that HU and so on. I might be over-estimating how important it is but I really do feel if they are more likely to play more if they have an enjoyable experience etc, and part of that is a few words of interaction between other players they might recognize etc.
I remember when I was playing on Christmas (Boxing day, 26th Dec in New Zealand) a big fish kept regging every 300 or 500 and it was always him, one random and 4 regs, and he was like "same people every game, love it" etc.

Gl all~

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12-04-2012 , 08:58 PM
gg, gl and stuff like that, man
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