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07-26-2010 , 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by isac1984
Are people really this stupid? The whole reply was sarcastic. Z0mg idiots! Im gonna clarify this once and forall ive played 650k hands in the last 9 months. And thats all the hands i have in My dB!
Oh right ya sorry.

However, I don't think you should try and go pro just because you have seen durrrr turn pro and "because i saw him on tv". Thats pretty foolish. Theres alot more you have to consider and I think you're being very naive. You need a bit of a reality check I'm afraid.
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07-26-2010 , 03:17 AM
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Originally Posted by CliffLee
Oh right ya sorry.

However, I don't think you should try and go pro just because you have seen durrrr turn pro and "because i saw him on tv". Thats pretty foolish. Theres alot more you have to consider and I think you're being very naive. You need a bit of a reality check I'm afraid.
well the thing Is that the Durrrr thing was sarcastic aswell. I want to go pro because i think i got the right mindset for it and love for the game. Also to get away from my ****bag job.

I know going pro takes alot of work and good BRM. But i think if i study as hard as ive been studying the last 9 months. And play as much as i can ill get there eventually. My timeframe for getting from 30NL to 400NL is 2 years. And this has to be doable.
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07-26-2010 , 04:11 AM
Since the sarcasm seems to come to a end. Its time to get serious.

Im gonna grind 2K hands a day monday and tuesday to up my RB and hopefully win a few Bi. Going away for a wedding wed - sun so this will be the last 2 grinder days this month.

August comes 50NL shottaking and hopefully ill be moving up completely in the beginning of Aug.

This time around im gonna mix 50NL into my normal 30NL instead of just going boom im gonna play 4 tables 50NL right away. Ive done this 3 times and all times it ends with me moving back down cause of Fancy Play syndrome and regular tilt/runbad.
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07-27-2010 , 03:43 AM
Played a mixed session yesterday. First i went 4 tables of 30NL for about 2 hours. Then 2 tables 50NL for 2 hours. Didnt work out as i planned. Im having a hard time adjusting to getting 3bet each and every button open. i had noone with under 3betstat of 10. With the highest being 36.5 over 170 hands. Im gonna post my worst trouble hands here after im done working (different computer so no DB)

ended around 35$ up wich atleast is more then 5BB/100 for the session. was up more but shoved 88 into a 3b donkey who showed up with 99.
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07-27-2010 , 11:51 AM
happy time against a 75/35 shortstacker

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.30(BB) Replayer
SB ($11.33)
BB ($10.86)
UTG ($35.32)
Hero ($39.31)
BTN ($33.15)

Dealt to Hero J A

fold, Hero raises to $1.05, fold, SB calls $0.90, BB calls $0.75

FLOP ($3.15) A K 5

SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $2.40, SB calls $2.40, BB raises to $9.81 (AI), Hero calls $7.41, SB folds

TURN ($25.17) A K 5 3

RIVER ($25.17) A K 5 3 Q

Hero shows J A
(Pre 65%, Flop 82.4%, Turn 90.9%)

BB shows 7 K
(Pre 35%, Flop 17.6%, Turn 9.1%)

Hero wins $23.92
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07-27-2010 , 12:09 PM
im pro
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07-27-2010 , 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by nap
im pro
good4you
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07-27-2010 , 04:14 PM
Villain is 47 / 19. I think its a clear fold given i have no specific reads on V

Ongame Network $30.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

UTG: $27.19
CO: $28.27
BTN: $32.77
Hero (SB): $34.80
BB: $25.83

Pre Flop: ($0.45) Hero is SB with Q A
UTG calls $0.30, CO raises to $0.60, 1 fold, Hero raises to $2.40, 2 folds, CO calls $1.80

Flop: ($5.40) Q 4 T (2 players)
Hero bets $3.75, CO raises to $25.87, Hero folds

Spoiler:
Final Pot: $12.90
(Rake: $0.64)



Villain here is 40/40 with a 3b of 33,3% over 50 hands.



Ongame Network $30.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BB: $37.45
UTG: $25.84
CO: $30.00
BTN: $58.17
Hero (SB): $29.25

Pre Flop: ($0.45) Hero is SB with A K
3 folds, Hero raises to $1.05, BB raises to $3.15, Hero raises to $29.25, BB calls $26.10

Flop: ($58.50) 8 8 K (2 players)

Turn: ($58.50) 2 (2 players)

River: ($58.50) 5 (2 players)

Spoiler:
Final Pot: $58.50
BB shows Ah Qh
Hero shows Ac Kc
(Rake: $1.50)



Villain here is 26 / 22 I think his line makes absolutely no sence at all given he would 3b AK AQ AA KK QQ The only thing he could rep is a set and i didnt feel like i could give him credit for a set.

Ongame Network $30.00 No Limit Hold'em - 4 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BB: $25.35
Hero (CO): $32.90
BTN: $25.12
SB: $31.64

Pre Flop: ($0.45) Hero is CO with A Q
Hero raises to $1.05, BTN calls $1.05, 2 folds

Flop: ($2.55) A 5 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $1.80, BTN raises to $4.95, Hero calls $3.15

Turn: ($12.45) 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $6.45, Hero calls $6.45

River: ($25.35) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $12.67, Hero calls $12.67

Spoiler:
Final Pot: $50.69
Hero shows Ac Qs
BTN shows Jd Ks
(Rake: $1.50)
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07-27-2010 , 04:15 PM
Btw session ended 12$ up only in 960 hands. So that puts the roll to 1045$
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07-27-2010 , 04:38 PM
I think your 4 bet sizing sucks. Need to 4 bet a lot smaller so you can 4 bet bluff the constant 3 betters imo.
Example:
You raise to 3x
Villain 3 bets to 9x
Good 4 bet size here would be 24-27x
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07-27-2010 , 05:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Black Fish
I think your 4 bet sizing sucks. Need to 4 bet a lot smaller so you can 4 bet bluff the constant 3 betters imo.
Example:
You raise to 3x
Villain 3 bets to 9x
Good 4 bet size here would be 24-27x
yup its really bad to get it in vs someone who your sure will call you with worse no matter what your 4betsize is right ?
(he called 4bet jams before in the 50 hands with 88 & TT against regs)

He wold call me all in here with AA KK QQ JJ AK AQ TT 99 88 and everything else would fold to a 4bet no matter size. And against this 3betdonk i would call a 5bet jam over my 4bet with AKs so no my 4bet sizing doesnt suck.
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07-29-2010 , 03:23 PM


Played this lol of a session today.

Total roll is now 1048$
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07-29-2010 , 05:19 PM
with all respect but if you are beating 30NL with only 3bb/100hands you shouldn't be thinking about playing fulltime yet
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08-15-2010 , 05:39 AM
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Originally Posted by isac1984
yup its really bad to get it in vs someone who your sure will call you with worse no matter what your 4betsize is right ?
(he called 4bet jams before in the 50 hands with 88 & TT against regs)

He wold call me all in here with AA KK QQ JJ AK AQ TT 99 88 and everything else would fold to a 4bet no matter size. And against this 3betdonk i would call a 5bet jam over my 4bet with AKs so no my 4bet sizing doesnt suck.
Wouldn't he try to 5b shove bluff if you 4bet him smaller some of the time if he is that laggy? Against his allin calling range you are ~50%. Why risk that much on a coin flip? If he calls your smaller 4b you are OOP but even when you don't hit the flop you can still put pressure on him on most Q high flops where you have at least 40~45% equity. With the fold equity your shove is obv ev+ but is this the most optimal play? Only considering other options. If I'm totally wrong here please explain it to me.
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08-15-2010 , 09:45 AM
I don't think it would be a great idea to go pro when you have only played 40k hands total.
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08-15-2010 , 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by isac1984
Yeah i played 40K lifetime and i want To be à pro like durrrr cause i saw him on tv one time omg poker is so cool anyone can make billions only playing 40k lifetime. Stupid ****in Dick! This is why i dont post much. Make one mistake in a thread and the *******s are gonna **** you for the rest of your thread! Omg ******. I estimate Anywere between 2 mil and 4,5 mil i dont know because i dont have ha dB of the last 6 years! How many hands have you played lifetime? 0,0 im just in here trying to be à Dick to everyone Who makes a wrong estimation or is trying to have à good time in the forum.
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Originally Posted by CliffLee
40k hands! I think you should play more before deciding to turn pro.
Quote:
Originally Posted by isac1984
Are people really this stupid? The whole reply was sarcastic. Z0mg idiots! Im gonna clarify this once and forall ive played 650k hands in the last 9 months. And thats all the hands i have in My dB!

Havent played this weekend cause of partying. Gonna go atleast 5K hands monday - wednesday. Then im going away for the weekend. August Will be game on month. Gonna beat 50NL in August so i can play 100 in september.
I'm not saying this to be rude, but I think tilt control might be your biggest issue in turning pro. Someone says something slightly stupid in here (which is very standard), you tilt big time and write some message with lots of '*' in it. People understand how pissed off you are and write something sarcastic. You get even more pissed off. (Yes, they understand that your message was sarcastic)

Here's some advice: When someones insults you, just ignore it and be nice. People will respect you more and give you some actual advice in the thread. Use that same strategy at the poker tables. When someone insults it means that they are close to going on tilt. Take advantage of that, instead of going on tilt yourself.
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08-15-2010 , 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by guutara
Wouldn't he try to 5b shove bluff if you 4bet him smaller some of the time if he is that laggy? Against his allin calling range you are ~50%. Why risk that much on a coin flip? If he calls your smaller 4b you are OOP but even when you don't hit the flop you can still put pressure on him on most Q high flops where you have at least 40~45% equity. With the fold equity your shove is obv ev+ but is this the most optimal play? Only considering other options. If I'm totally wrong here please explain it to me.
Hi OP, this is good advice, no need to shove Ak, 4 bet smaller and smile when he shoves his junk. He might decide to shove a5 but when you shove he will fold all his blufs.

I play at ongame myself and know this playertype very well, ongame is filled with them. Inducing them to shove is great advice IMO
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08-18-2010 , 12:59 PM
Im back. Have Been playing alot of poker and have been moving up to 50NL. That didnt work out so good. Im gonna play 30NL until rakeback gets in. Then ill probebly have like 30bi for 50NL.
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08-18-2010 , 01:08 PM
gl with this
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