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12-04-2011 , 09:04 PM
Update 28

32 more games and nothing interesting happened. Just ran bad on my 3 final tables 5th, 7th and 9th. Over 1k hands now so I'll post some interesting statty shiz tomorrow

Games During Session = 32
Profit for Session = -$22.16

Overall Profit = $439.49
Bankroll = $739.50
Overall ROI = 16.4%
Overall $/hour = $4.53


Graph for Session:



Overall Graph:

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12-05-2011 , 01:14 PM
1k Games Update: Stat Overload!

Well I've finished my first 1000 games and a profit of $440 is beyond my expectations. Coming into this, I wasn't even entirely sure that I was a profitable player and I know I had many faults with my game. I still do but I have definitely improved and hope that I can eclipse $440 in my next 1000 games in order to reach my $1500 profit goal. I finish uni on the 9th and plan to play 1000 games in the following week, hopefully making a bit of money before xmas

So here's my overall graph so far, first done by games and then by day:





Despite my peak profit being higher than where I am current, we can see from the daily graph that I actually have just about peaked in terms of the profit I have been on at the end of each day. So in that sense, I am currently at my peak, which feels good, especially after that monstrous downswing.

Here's my profit per day and per month:





I obviously started on a massive heater, shown by the few games in October making a massive profit. Then I had a big downswing, before a small-sloping upward curve. My biggest day is only just over $100. It would be nice to have a huuuuuuuge day where I win like $300.... I've come close a few times when I've made loads of final tables big stacked but then ran bad.

Here's my stats pre-ante and post-ante:





I am delighted with my BB/100 and EVBB/100 pre-ante. The first 3 blind levels are extraordinarily simple to manoeuvre, just playing premium hands postflop, so limping is a far bigger part of the game here.

However, post ante, when it comes to shove-folding, I am clearly not doing something right, with my EVBB/100 of 0.77. This is probably just ICM mistakes that I make. I could probably try and min-raise steal more frequently in the latter stages where I actually have over 10-15 BBs. Basically, I think I am still playing a bit too tight in the latter stages.

Here are my stats for each individual blind level:



The stat to note here is the PFR/VPIP ratio at each blind level. Generally, a good ratio is 80%, which I have on every blind level from t100 onwards. However, I feel that limping is an important part of the game in the first 3 blind levels, in order to maximise profit, minimising variance. A lot of players are generally awful postflop players, so you'd rather get it in postflop when you are a bigger favourite. Rather than iso-raising a couple of limpers with hands like KJ, you are far better off limping. Firstly, the calling station are generally only calling the raises with hands that beat us and they fold out the hands we dominate. This is bad for us. We would rather outplay them postflop. Furthermore, we can limp suited connectors and even hands like K6s on the button after limpers and only continuing if we flop big. 'Chilin_dude' talks about this in his thread and most 180 regs agree that in the $2.50 games, limping is better than iso-raising. However, I have noticed that a lot of strat videos for 180 mans warn you against limping. I simply disagree with this while there are plenty of fish around. Perhaps things are different in the higher buy-in games.

Here are my stats based on position and number of players in the hand:





Nothing much to say about my stats based on position except that they seem pretty standard stats. PFR is highest from the button. The only thing is that perhaps I am flatting from BB too often.

The stats based on number of players show my deterioration as the game gets short-handed. However the sample size for 6-handed or less is so small that it is almost irrelevant. I am fairly sure that I have just got unlucky in the few short-handed hands that I have played, which is very frustrating with the steep prize pool. NEED TO WIN SOME GAMES!!

Two more graphs: I find it quite nice that I have won the most BBs/100 with AA then KK, QQ, JJ, TT, then AK. As expected. I like it that my sample size is so big that expected results like this occur

Then I just wanted to show off my 2 straight flushes and the royal from update 1 again





So all is going good at the moment. I want to get in a lot more volume soon since term finishes on the 9th, so will be updating a lot more. Here's to an even better next 1000 games!
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12-05-2011 , 03:23 PM
Update 29

Eurghhhh just played a quick 18 games. 2 cashes 10th and 11th as well as losing a 40k pot to bubble 19th with KQ vs 99 on Q84....... I feel like I played really well though

Games During Session = 18
Profit for Session = -$35.16

Overall Profit = $404.33
Bankroll = $704.34
Overall ROI = 14.9%
Overall $/hour = $4.08
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12-10-2011 , 07:20 PM
Update 30

HEATER TIME!!! Still slightly annoyed that I couldn't win the last 2 games I was in, losing a 2:1 chip lead in both heads ups. However, I did win another game earlier on in the session!. I did get pretty lucky in all my final tables, but you have to get lucky to win these games (I won a huuuge pot QJs vs QQ ). I think I played really well and got lucky at the important stages.

However, I do feel that I need to work on my heads up game. I'm starting to get very hesitant about how to play heads up and my stats of 4 1sts and 13 2nds. I have won 24% of my heads ups

Games During Session = 49
Profit for Session = $198.89

Overall Profit = $603.22
Bankroll = $903.23
Overall ROI = 21.2%
Overall $/hour = $5.83


Graph for Session:



Overall Graph:

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12-11-2011 , 09:21 AM
Just started my 24 hour session Sooo this is my thread for the next 24 hours:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/17.../#post30319264
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12-11-2011 , 11:29 PM
Wooooo still going - haven't fallen asleep and I'm up! Not much, but at least I'm up!
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12-12-2011 , 04:47 PM
Update 31

This was a 24 hour session of non-stop poker. Literally had 6-12 tables up from 1pm Sunday to 2pm Monday. Highlight of the session was hitting 2 ROYAL FLUSHES and winning 4 games!! For more information on how my 24 hour session went, see this thread :

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/17...-mans-1137794/

But for this thread, here's my standard stats and graphs for the session:

Games During Session = 327
Profit for Session = $165.57

Overall Profit = $768.79
Bankroll = $1068.80
Overall ROI = 21.0%
Overall $/hour = $5.98


Graph for Session:



Overall Graph:



So I'm now into 4 figures! Wooooooop





You may notice my low number of FPPs. Obviously, I have earned over 3k. However I used them on playing the hyper turbo 235 FPP buy-in satellites to the Sunday Storm and then unregistering to get the $11 tournament money. 2 people get the $11 prize out of 6.

I played 14 of these satellites and won 8!! Pretty sick imo. I used one of the entries to play the Storm last night, which failed, and withdrew the other $77 for personal use
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12-12-2011 , 05:40 PM
nice thread, am currently thinking of making the switch from grinding 27 mans to the 180s as have shipped a few so found this very rellevant

gl
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12-13-2011 , 09:13 PM
Update 32

Session started off pretty awful and I was down like $70 with my last 12 games left and not much going for me. But then I seemed to become INVINCIBLE!! I started winning every single all-in and flew to 4 final tables. However I did finish 19th in one game losing a 30k pot AA to KQ .

I ran like god on one of the final tables winning it after having 1BB with 6 people left. The first hand heads up was dealt KK vs K7. I limped he shoved, I call, I win. Another FT was pretty standard with me finishing 3rd. I came 5th in one where I had 80k at the start - lost AK to AQ and ran 33 into 88 in blind battle. And I came 8th in the other losing JJ to TT

However, a very good session, which (including the 24 hour session) means I have had 3 +$100 sessions in a row!

Games During Session = 49
Profit for Session = $101.62

Overall Profit = $870.41
Bankroll = $1170.42
Overall ROI = 23.0%
Overall $/hour = $6.57


Graph for Session:



Overall Graph:

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12-13-2011 , 09:44 PM
u r da sik
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12-14-2011 , 02:57 AM
Subbed. GL
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12-17-2011 , 09:45 PM
Update 33

Just played a quick session. Got pretty frustrated early on as I was down about $70 but ended up making 3 final tables, getting 3rd, 5th and 7th. The 3rd was very annoying due to the top heavy prize pool, but such is poker.

I need to play 418 more games before the end of the year in order to complete the 10k VPPS $50 Stellar Reward. After completing this, I have an exam to revise for for the 9th January, so won't be playing any poker until after then

Games During Session = 44
Profit for Session = -$5.38

Overall Profit = $865.03
Bankroll = $1165.04
Overall ROI = 22.2%
Overall $/hour = $6.34


Graph for Session:



Overall Graph:

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12-23-2011 , 08:44 PM
Hi bazza!

Only browse the forums and very rarely comment. Found your posts really interesting though and thought i needed to comment. i will be starting a challenge like this myself in the new year, with a starting roll of $500 though. Sorry if i have missed this in the previous posts but when do you plan on moving up stakes?, if at all, and if you are, what stakes will you move to?. Do you always 12 table and add on or have you increased this amount session by session?

thanks, JP
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12-24-2011 , 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Johnny Boy
Hi bazza!

Only browse the forums and very rarely comment. Found your posts really interesting though and thought i needed to comment. i will be starting a challenge like this myself in the new year, with a starting roll of $500 though. Sorry if i have missed this in the previous posts but when do you plan on moving up stakes?, if at all, and if you are, what stakes will you move to?. Do you always 12 table and add on or have you increased this amount session by session?

thanks, JP
Thanks for your interest! I've heard a lot saying that you do need about 200 buy-ins to cope with the 180-man variance so a $500 bankroll is a much better start than my $300. I knew I was taking a risk, but it was all I could afford to put in. My biggest downswing was in fact $321 as you can see on my overall graph. If that had happened at the start, I would have simply gone busto but fortunately it didn't

I have not set anything in stone, but my rough idea of a plan is to make my $1500 profit from the $2.50's and then take a shot at the $8 180-mans. This means I will have a BR of 225 buy-ins so it should be fine. However, if I lose say $500 at the start of playing the $8 ones, I will probably drop back down, rinse and repeat until I finally have success at the $8 games. I guess the big long term plan is much the same as other threads... work my way up to the $35 games, get to a BR of $20-30k and then start playing MTTs. But obviously this is a loooooooong way in the future and I doubt that I am a good enough player to even achieve these kind of profits.

As for my number of tables, I have 2 monitors with 6 games on each. I am fully comfortable playing 12 games although it can get a bit hectic if I am on 3 or 4 final tables at the same time. Nevertheless, I plan to move up to 16 tables soon. Maybe even my next session! When I first played poker, I only ever single-tabled MTTs, but over the past year I learnt to multi-table 9-man SnGs, playing 17 of the $3.50 and $7 games, but I only ever broke even from doing so. For this 180-man challenge so far, I have only ever 12-tabled.

Good luck to you
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12-24-2011 , 07:39 PM
Thanks for the reply Bazza!

And thanks for answering all the questions! Im sure you will move up pretty soon, your results seem fairly good to me. Will carry on following your progress, and hope to replicate this success hopefully in the new year. Hope the exam goes well at uni! Im just about to finish my last year at The University of Gloucestershire, studying Business Management.

Look forward to the next update,

JP
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12-24-2011 , 08:43 PM
Update 34

Just realised that I haven't updated on here the 24 hour session I played earlier! You'll find the details of my 2nd 24 hour session here :

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/17...again-1143376/

Was a pretty disgusting session luck-wise. After 21 hours, my EVBB/100 was 10 and my actual was 4.... and I was down $220!!!

Then the last 3 hours, everything started hitting. I hit 3 straight flushes in the session and made $250 from my last 20ish games! Bringing the session into profit. So...

Games During Session = 319
Profit for Session = $33.49

Overall Profit = $898.52
Bankroll = $1198.53
Overall ROI = 19.1%
Overall $/hour = $5.58


Graph for Session: Pretty Sick!



Overall Graph: Much nicer looking!

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12-24-2011 , 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Johnny Boy
Thanks for the reply Bazza!

And thanks for answering all the questions! Im sure you will move up pretty soon, your results seem fairly good to me. Will carry on following your progress, and hope to replicate this success hopefully in the new year. Hope the exam goes well at uni! Im just about to finish my last year at The University of Gloucestershire, studying Business Management.

Look forward to the next update,

JP
Went to park mate did law still living in chelt, you ever go bham or bristol to the casinos there? I play online a lot too, playing 10nl atm to get last stellar. Pm me if you wanna talk strat or w/e

/derail, sorry baz carry on
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12-25-2011 , 03:51 AM
impressive i believe you worked hard and did a lot of research -------i decided
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12-25-2011 , 11:14 AM
Ha Ha small world!

Yeah im at Park still now. Wanna finish soon sooooooooo bad though Yeah will definitely keep in touch, wont be starting til the new year though!

JP
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12-25-2011 , 07:14 PM
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impressive i believe you worked hard and did a lot of research -------i decided
good deciding :]
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12-26-2011 , 03:17 PM
Just starting a session. Gonna try and up the number of tables. Bizarrely I'm gonna up to 17 instead of 16 because my monitor's size means that it comfortably tiles 9 while my laptop screen nicely tiles 8.

8+9=17!

You can tell I'm a maths student
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12-26-2011 , 03:56 PM
point on adding tables?
did you smh improved your game and now you can put autopilot for the decisions.
gl
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12-26-2011 , 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by keegoing
point on adding tables?
did you smh improved your game and now you can put autopilot for the decisions.
gl
Point of adding tables is hopefully to increase hourly and get in more volume to complete bonuses. I do basically autopilot these games because 95% of decisions are just shove-fold, so I don't think adding a few more tables should affect my play too much.

Only played 50 games in this session and it's gone pretty badly... although I assure you it has nothing to do with the extra tables. I final table bubbled two games A6 vs 55 (blind battle on t1600 for 10k so his call is good) and AT vs QJ (he min raised button on t1600 both with 20k each and he calls my shove from BB so awful call) as well as coming 11th losing AT to 85 (on t3000 and I had 11k so his call from BB with a 40k stack is fine), all for 20k+ pots.

I'm down $76.15 with one game left where I am 19th of 26. Pretty frustrated though

Ooooooooooh just got back from break and I have AA on the button! Let's see how this goes!

Edit: on t800 I have 6.8k, some folds, MP limps (stack 11.2k), I make it 1999, SB folds, BB calls (stack 9.8k), MP calls,

Flop Tc8c2c (I have Ac)

Check, Check, I check

Turn Qh

Check, MP all-in, I call, BB fold

BB shows Qd9c

River 5d

I double to 16k and am 6th of 26. Let's win this!

Last edited by Bazza2103; 12-26-2011 at 06:09 PM.
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12-26-2011 , 06:08 PM
Gogogo! Hero another session!!!!
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12-26-2011 , 06:31 PM
nice work op. Would you be interested in getting staked in the future?
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