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05-24-2023 , 06:54 PM
yeah not sure what your br is but I would just go for 25nl shot mate, set some buy in loss limit, like 10/15 bi (thats what I usually do but then I ignore it and refuse to move down ) and just do the same thing you've been doing on previous stakes and you will be fine. And if you feel like you are getting crushed work a little harder outside the tables, regrind at lower limits and try again. You got this man
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05-25-2023 , 03:57 AM
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Originally Posted by KidCudi147
yeah not sure what your br is but I would just go for 25nl shot mate, set some buy in loss limit, like 10/15 bi (thats what I usually do but then I ignore it and refuse to move down ) and just do the same thing you've been doing on previous stakes and you will be fine. And if you feel like you are getting crushed work a little harder outside the tables, regrind at lower limits and try again. You got this man
Thanks yea I can try that, just when I loose 10 buyins at 25nl I feel like moving to 50nl to make it back sooner haha
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05-25-2023 , 07:00 AM
Just replace one table 10z with one table 25z and when you feel ok with it, do the same with 2nd table. Dont set stoplosses, flow with your level of confidence and with your level of energy (if u feel tired, play lower or less tables or skip the session altogether). Given your results you beat 25, so you just need to put in volume, play your a game and not tilt. Thats all you need and one good way to do it is what I described above, its much more tilt free process than waiting for hitting a stoploss.
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06-03-2023 , 05:36 AM
BTN: $28.19 (112.8 bb)
Hero (SB): $25.70 (102.8 bb)
BB: $28.72 (114.9 bb)
UTG: $45.32 (181.3 bb)
MP: $32.43 (129.7 bb)
CO: $102.57 (410.3 bb)

Hero posts SB $0.10, BB posts $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has 8 8
3 folds, BTN raises to $0.75, Hero raises to $2.50, fold, BTN calls $1.75

Flop: ($5.25, 2 players) 8 7 4
Hero checks, BTN bets $5.01, Hero raises to $23.20 and is all-in, BTN calls $18.19

Turn: ($51.65, 2 players) 7

River: ($51.65, 2 players) J

Results: $51.65 pot ($2.00 rake)
Final Board: 8 7 4 7 J

Hero shows 8 8: (Full House, Eights full of Sevens)
(Pre 18%, Flop 63%, Turn 95%)

BTN shows 9 9: (Flush, Jack High)
(Pre 82%, Flop 37%, Turn 5%)

Hero wins $49.65
[/hand_history][/converted_hand]

    PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
    Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3

    BTN: $62.94 (251.8 bb)
    SB: $68.31 (273.2 bb)
    Hero (BB): $26.21 (104.8 bb)
    UTG: $25.29 (101.2 bb)
    MP: $25.76 (103 bb)
    CO: $45.55 (182.2 bb)

    SB posts $0.10, Hero posts BB $0.25

    Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has Q Q
    3 folds, BTN raises to $0.55, SB raises to $2.12, Hero raises to $6.75, fold, SB calls $4.63

    Flop: ($14.05, 2 players) J 8 6
    SB checks, Hero checks

    Turn: ($14.05, 2 players) 9
    SB checks, Hero checks

    River: ($14.05, 2 players) 7
    SB bets $20.13, Hero calls $19.46 and is all-in

    Results: $52.97 pot ($2.00 rake)
    Final Board: J 8 6 9 7

    SB shows K A: (High Card, Ace)
    (Pre 46%, Flop 23%, Turn 14%)

    Hero shows Q Q: (One Pair, Queens)
    (Pre 54%, Flop 77%, Turn 86%)

    Hero wins $50.97


      PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3

      BTN: $12.90 (51.6 bb)
      SB: $25.80 (103.2 bb)
      BB: $25.00 (100 bb)
      UTG: $28.60 (114.4 bb)
      MP: $27.10 (108.4 bb)
      Hero (CO): $26.00 (104 bb)

      SB posts $0.10, BB posts $0.25

      Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has K A
      fold, MP raises to $0.62, Hero raises to $2.50, 3 folds, MP calls $1.88

      Flop: ($5.35, 2 players) 5 2 9
      MP checks, Hero checks

      Turn: ($5.35, 2 players) 4
      MP bets $2.00, Hero raises to $5.75, MP calls $3.75

      River: ($16.85, 2 players) 4
      MP checks, Hero bets $17.75 and is all-in, MP calls $17.75

      Results: $52.35 pot ($0.00 rake)
      Final Board: 5 2 9 4 4

      Hero shows K A: (One Pair, Fours)
      (Pre 48%, Flop 52%, Turn 50%)

      MP shows K A: (One Pair, Fours)
      (Pre 52%, Flop 48%, Turn 50%)

      MP wins $25.18
      Hero wins $25.17
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      06-03-2023 , 05:38 AM
      Nice one mate, shot going well?
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      06-03-2023 , 05:53 AM
      Few things I've come across so far

      -Need to recognise where ranges are capped and people overfold.
      -Need a better understanding of which hands I can call 3bets with and how to continue when faced bets on flop/turn/river
      -Red line still negative

      Also I'm bad defending against aggro players like you haha. I get it in my head that they cant have it all the time and end up calling down light

      small sample so far:
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      06-03-2023 , 06:08 AM
      Nice mate! Redline seems fine tbh. There is not necessarily a right or wrong imo (unless it's going like almost vertical straight down)
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      06-03-2023 , 06:15 AM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by KidCudi147
      Nice mate! Redline seems fine tbh. There is not necessarily a right or wrong imo (unless it's going like almost vertical straight down)
      thanks bro! How did you become aware of when to put the aggression on? some specific studying?

      Also on 25nl more ''regs'' are playing 50bb stacks and Im not aware of what the ranges are there
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      06-03-2023 , 06:19 AM
      You can add me on discord I can give you some advice there: Joost#9738
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      06-05-2023 , 03:39 AM
      Last week I had my first shot at 25nl, I think it went well, I had my best week results wise so far in the challenge.

      What I do notice is that when I'm all in I have this scared feeling of please don't go wrong
      At one point I lost 2 all ins in 1 minute from both I had like 90%win chance and it made me feel a bit sick to my stomach hehe.
      So I don't know I think its better to grind a bit more of 10nl and get more comfortable there.
      Talked a but with KidCudi147 and that really motivated me to take this more seriously
      My goal now is to make 500 a month asap




      Plan:
      -Study more to feel more confident in my play.
      -Play 10nl till I'm totally used to winning and losing all ins
      -Shot 25nl when I feel good and confident

      I'm now playing the 10 free practise hands on gtowiz, is there a free alternative to practise more hands?
      Best way to create a really simple strategy?
      I'm planning to watch the free gtowiz videos on YouTube and the ceegee mastering 6max series
      Also I'm watching the from the ground up series

      This week:
      - Play 21k hands
      - study 3hours
      - play 10 free study hands daily before my session
      - note hands and review them
      - post hands in study group
      -read 70 pages of MGOP
      -Gym 3x
      -Meditate 30ms daily
      -Cold shower min 21m

      I will report next sunday on these
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      06-11-2023 , 12:11 PM
      Quick update:

      Studied for about 3hrs this week, in my play I feel slightly more confident.
      Still have to get better at fighting for small pots and knowing what to do when facing aggression.
      Practised some lines and exploits on smaller stakes.




      My brother is visiting this week so will play less poker

      Goal:
      -Play at least 10k hands
      -make the 2x 40% weekly cashback (2x22)
      -practise 200 hands in gto trainer
      -a +500 month

      If there are people who wanne discuss hands feel free to drop your discord
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      07-01-2023 , 09:05 AM
      quick update:

      The new beginning
      Lost my database so today start a new one.

      Last month played like 20k hands on 25nl breakevenish, for me the hardest part isn't the players but mentally I'm not used to $50+ pots.
      I was just playing what I thought was my own exploitative style but now I want to focus on starting from scratch and building a new solid strategy. (or stealing it from ginge poker )
      But because I feel like I need to start over now with a new strategy I don't know If I should first play 2/5nl or just move back to 10nl

      mental game: So I noticed I have this destructive pattern: I feel the need to fail so then I can start over again. I think subconsciously I like it cuss then I can start new and ''do it right this time''
      Also it relieves some pressure cuss I would start from the familiar beginning. I also noticed I do this with fitness, for example today I can eat whatever I want so that's out of my system and tomorrow I will start a strict diet. It basically comes back in every area of life just in slightly different forms. Also I think it's so I can feel like a victim. With poker when I play my worst I call down people when I know they have it, just so I can ''see'' that I got ''unlucky'' again, to reinforce how big of a victim I am.

      So with poker this is a new start lol. Had to cash out a bunch. I will start at 5nl and play at least 30k hands, only allowed to move up when I'm winning 5bb/100.
      If I manage to win 5bb/100 at 10nl for at least 100k hands I will shot take 25nl again. My goal now is to treat poker more seriously and more like a job. I will have the time for it this month so better use it well

      This week:
      -30k hands NL5 hopefully at 5bb/100 so I can move up
      -Only check results when I post them here next sunday
      -Watch ginge course second time
      -30 pages mgop


      For mental health:
      daily: meditation, Cold showers, exercise , wim hof method, follow a daily schedule
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      07-02-2023 , 04:51 AM
      Quote:
      mental game: So I noticed I have this destructive pattern: I feel the need to fail so then I can start over again. I think subconsciously I like it cuss then I can start new and ''do it right this time''
      I can relate to this man, so many times I've created new db's to "finally have some puntfree sample" but the truth is it's just part of my actual game. Same with that its important to become comfortable with failure like you describe (and I struggle with too) because you will fail and make mistakes and end up losing or playing cgame too much at periods of time. That's poker. It's just a matter of being fine with it, and dealing with it well and try to minimize the damage in the moment.

      I feel like by starting over again you are seeking controll over something you can't controll. I'm saying this in general and not about this specific instance (so I'm not saying what you are doing rn is bad). And I also don't want to talk like I know it all. Because I don't, and also partly speaking to myself.
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      07-28-2023 , 12:25 PM
      Played mostly 10nl and that's going fine, feeling really comfortable there and with the pot sizes. At the end I tried a 4 buyin 25nl shot but that was gone in one hour lol.

      what I notice is that now I'm studying more its basically me learning how much I don't know. In a way it's making me feel like the biggest noob ever and that effects my play a bit. When I was just clicking buttons I assumed more. When you dont know how much there is to Know in a way thats also a blessing haha. Think this is just a transitional phase of learning more and implementing the basics. I don't think I should be studying crazy spots till I feel very solid in just the most common things. Feeling a bit overwhelmed about the concept of having a strategy on every spot and remembering everything



      Next month I will still play 10nl till I feel like I know what I'm doing and I can actually make an argument why I do what I do. Think unconsciously I know stuff but I wouldn't really be able to explain why it works. Think after that I will just completely move up to 25nl and only go back if br makes me.
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      07-28-2023 , 01:39 PM
      Nice update and great results for this month!

      Quote:
      what I notice is that now I'm studying more its basically me learning how much I don't know. In a way it's making me feel like the biggest noob ever and that effects my play a bit. When I was just clicking buttons I assumed more. When you dont know how much there is to Know in a way thats also a blessing haha. Think this is just a transitional phase of learning more and implementing the basics
      I can highly relate "the more you know the less you know" kind of concept. When my study/play ratio is very high I feel like a complete fish in almost every node and I'm overthinking standard spots completely Also so many questions come up and not only do I tag 1 every 3 hands postflop for review, but also playing requires more energy. But it's part of the improvement cycle and it's good to give up some short term ev for improvement! keep it up

      Quote:
      Next month I will still play 10nl till I feel like I know what I'm doing and I can actually make an argument why I do what I do. Think unconsciously I know stuff but I wouldn't really be able to explain why it works. Think after that I will just completely move up to 25nl and only go back if br makes me.
      This is good, but you should expect small steps and I would advise you to not let in infinitely hold you back to move up. Because understanding your own strategy is harder than it may seem. Like even now after showing good results on NL200 (not that this is some sort of genius stake haha) and spending x crazy hours in pio I"m still gaining understanding of my own strategy everyday. And there are still infinite nodes where I might know my sizings and (roughly) my frequencies, but I still feel like a fish there because I don't understand what I'm doing on a deeper level and/or I just do it because solver telling me to.

      Long story short this is a long process that grows overtime if you keep progressing and asking yourself the right questions + putting in the hours studying. Maybe you can start with something like understanding your flop strategies. In general I'm a fan of a structural approach when it comes to studying but maybe this is something personal and that is doesn't have to work for everyone.

      Gl next month!
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      07-28-2023 , 02:48 PM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by KidCudi147
      Nice update and great results for this month!



      I can highly relate "the more you know the less you know" kind of concept. When my study/play ratio is very high I feel like a complete fish in almost every node and I'm overthinking standard spots completely Also so many questions come up and not only do I tag 1 every 3 hands postflop for review, but also playing requires more energy. But it's part of the improvement cycle and it's good to give up some short term ev for improvement! keep it up



      This is good, but you should expect small steps and I would advise you to not let in infinitely hold you back to move up. Because understanding your own strategy is harder than it may seem. Like even now after showing good results on NL200 (not that this is some sort of genius stake haha) and spending x crazy hours in pio I"m still gaining understanding of my own strategy everyday. And there are still infinite nodes where I might know my sizings and (roughly) my frequencies, but I still feel like a fish there because I don't understand what I'm doing on a deeper level and/or I just do it because solver telling me to.

      Long story short this is a long process that grows overtime if you keep progressing and asking yourself the right questions + putting in the hours studying. Maybe you can start with something like understanding your flop strategies. In general I'm a fan of a structural approach when it comes to studying but maybe this is something personal and that is doesn't have to work for everyone.

      Gl next month!
      Thnx for the great feedback! your insights are always much appreciated
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      08-16-2023 , 12:51 PM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by Stixxem2
      Quick update:

      Studied for about 3hrs this week, in my play I feel slightly more confident.
      Still have to get better at fighting for small pots and knowing what to do when facing aggression.
      Practised some lines and exploits on smaller stakes.




      My brother is visiting this week so will play less poker

      Goal:
      -Play at least 10k hands
      -make the 2x 40% weekly cashback (2x22)
      -practise 200 hands in gto trainer
      -a +500 month

      If there are people who wanne discuss hands feel free to drop your discord
      Bro could you please post your overall results in terms of EVbb/100? It's always closer to reality than the more random bb/100. I also play microstakes zoom and would like to see how the different stakes differ in terms of winrate.

      <3

      Great progress though.
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      08-27-2023 , 05:05 AM
      Just a quick update to whine about my last week

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      08-27-2023 , 10:15 AM
      Looks like a good week to me.
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      08-29-2023 , 06:12 AM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by GranAutismo
      Looks like a good week to me.
      I'n not used to running this much under Ev
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      08-31-2023 , 03:27 PM
      Month update:

      So I mostly played 10nl and this stake feels like home lol. Think my game is quite nitty but the fundamentals are decent for the stake I play. When playing I've noticed I have some kind of tilt and most of the time its related to when I'm not sure If I made the right decision when I lost a pot. I have played some 25nl but there I don't feel confident at all, even though its not crazy different just the money difference and more solid regs still scare me

      goals next month:
      -play more
      -work on biggest leaks
      -find study peeps
      -read Mindset 2
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      09-01-2023 , 12:29 PM
      New month, wanted to start well with playing a lot

      I dont only wanne post the positives so here ya go:



      Lessons; At the end I moved up to 16nl and lost one more buy in there, this was a dumb idea. Also I should take more breaks whenever I play many hands. The positive thing is that now I will probably make my rakeback chest ($48) whoohwooow
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      09-18-2023 , 06:18 AM


      Can someone tell me how to win all ins?
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      10-01-2023 , 07:05 AM
      Monthly update:

      So this month was really challenging for me, the first half of the month I felt like I was losing every pre flop all in. It exposed some metal game issues and I think ive grown as a poker player and as a person. The last 3 days I had a heater and I'm happy I could end the month well.

      Some leaks I have to fix:
      -How to play medium strenght hands, I waaayy overfold them against any type of agression
      -Open more hands from button, sb
      -Learn 3b spots
      -Slow play more
      Noticed when pots get bigger I just want to get the money in before they outdraw me




      Goals next month:
      - 100k hands
      - finish from the ground up
      - Mental game of poker 2
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      10-01-2023 , 10:05 AM
      Quote:
      -How to play medium strenght hands, I waaayy overfold them against any type of agression
      -Open more hands from button, sb
      -Learn 3b spots
      -Slow play more
      Noticed when pots get bigger I just want to get the money in before they outdraw me
      Think overfolding is not super bad adjustment vs pool, just learn the thresholds and understand where and why you are deviating and you good. Think same with fast-playing, it's a decent adjustment (obv spot depended) vs pool but good to understand why you are doing it and where it's better to slowplay - vs which villains better to slowplay etc.
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