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11-06-2024 , 02:49 PM
Graph of whole challenge so far:

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11-07-2024 , 09:49 AM
Starting to think maybe I'm getting too old for this. Keep miss reading the board lol. Had a hand where I rivered the second nut flush but thought I had the nut flush so jammed over a raise. Other than that thought I played quite well.

Day 43 results:


BR: $304.94

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NL Holdem 0.10(BB)
HERO ($10.96) [VPIP: 24.4% | PFR: 19.9% | AGG: 35.1% | Flop Agg: 38.3% | Turn Agg: 34.8% | River Agg: 33.6% | 3Bet: 7.6% | 4Bet: 9.9% | Hands: 50984]
HJ ($29.31) [VPIP: 23.5% | PFR: 13.7% | AGG: 20% | Flop Agg: 25% | Turn Agg: 0% | River Agg: 33.3% | 3Bet: 0% | 4Bet: 33.3% | Cold Call: 20.8% | Hands: 51]
CO ($10.25) [VPIP: 25.9% | PFR: 24.7% | AGG: 42.9% | Hands: 83]
BTN ($10) [VPIP: 26.1% | PFR: 23.6% | AGG: 49.1% | Hands: 161]
SB ($8.45) [VPIP: 20.9% | PFR: 14.4% | AGG: 28.4% | Hands: 601]
BB ($8.39) [VPIP: 58.8% | PFR: 5.9% | AGG: 23.3% | Flop Agg: 10.5% | Turn Agg: 35.7% | River Agg: 30% | 3Bet: 0% | 4Bet: 0% | Cold Call: 50% | Hands: 35]

Dealt to Hero: K Q

HERO Raises To $0.22, HJ Calls $0.22, CO Folds, BTN Folds, SB Folds, BB Calls $0.12

Hero SPR on Flop: [11.51 effective]
Flop ($0.71): 8 6 A
BB Checks, HERO Checks, HJ Checks

Turn ($0.71): 8 6 A 3
BB Bets $0.10 (Rem. Stack: $8.07), HERO Raises To $0.60 (Rem. Stack: $10.14), HJ Calls $0.60 (Rem. Stack: $28.49), BB Folds

River ($2.01): 8 6 A 3 4
HERO Bets $1.43 (Rem. Stack: $8.71), HJ Raises To $6.20 (Rem. Stack: $22.29), HERO Raises To $10.14 (allin), HJ Calls $3.94 (Rem. Stack: $18.35)

Spoiler:

HJ shows: A 5

HJ wins: $21.29
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11-08-2024 , 04:41 PM
The rungood continues

Day 44 results:


BR: $301.15

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NL Holdem 0.10(BB)
CO ($10.26) [VPIP: 43.8% | PFR: 31.3% | AGG: 60% | Flop Agg: 66.7% | Turn Agg: 100% | River Agg: 100% | 3Bet: 0% | 4Bet: 0% | Hands: 16]
HERO ($10) [VPIP: 24.4% | PFR: 19.9% | AGG: 35.1% | Flop Agg: 38.3% | Turn Agg: 34.8% | River Agg: 33.5% | 3Bet: 7.5% | Fold to 3Bet: 58.5% | 4Bet: 10.1% | Hands: 51698]
SB ($20.41) [VPIP: 22.2% | PFR: 16.7% | AGG: 11.8% | Hands: 37]
BB ($10) [VPIP: 11.1% | PFR: 7.4% | AGG: 20% | Hands: 27]
UTG ($10.01) [VPIP: 61.9% | PFR: 0% | AGG: 50% | Hands: 21]
HJ ($11.96) [VPIP: 29.6% | PFR: 26.6% | AGG: 40.5% | Hands: 171]

Dealt to Hero: A 5

UTG Folds, HJ Folds, CO Raises To $0.20, HERO Raises To $0.90, SB Folds, BB Folds, CO Calls $0.70

Hero SPR on Flop: [4.67 effective]
Flop ($1.95): J 2 A
CO Bets $9.36 (allin), HERO Calls $9.10 (allin)

Turn ($20.41): J 2 A K

River ($20.41): J 2 A K T

Spoiler:

CO shows: T Q

CO wins: $19.15


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NL Holdem 0.10(BB)
BB ($13.07) [VPIP: 24.6% | PFR: 10.1% | AGG: 34.2% | Hands: 208]
HJ ($6.18) [VPIP: 66.7% | PFR: 33.3% | AGG: 50% | Flop Agg: 150% | Turn Agg: 100% | River Agg: 0% | 3Bet: 0% | 4Bet: 0% | Hands: 7]
CO ($10.40) [VPIP: 21% | PFR: 18.8% | AGG: 20.7% | Hands: 229]
HERO ($10) [VPIP: 24.4% | PFR: 19.9% | AGG: 35.1% | Hands: 51698]
SB ($7.90) [VPIP: 36.1% | PFR: 24.6% | AGG: 35.6% | Hands: 61]

Dealt to Hero: A A

HJ Raises To $6.18 (allin), CO Folds, HERO Calls $6.18, SB Folds, BB Folds

Flop ($12.51): 3 3 Q

Turn ($12.51): 3 3 Q 6

River ($12.51): 3 3 Q 6 5

Spoiler:

HJ shows: K 8

HJ wins: $11.88


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NL Holdem 0.10(BB)
SB ($9.49) [VPIP: 51.1% | PFR: 31.1% | AGG: 38.9% | Flop Agg: 26.7% | Turn Agg: 41.7% | River Agg: 62.5% | 3Bet: 7.1% | 4Bet: 0% | Cold Call: 33.3% | Hands: 45]
BB ($17.88) [VPIP: 26% | PFR: 21.4% | AGG: 28.3% | Hands: 159]
CO ($12.66) [VPIP: 19.8% | PFR: 17.1% | AGG: 42.3% | Hands: 225]
HERO ($10) [VPIP: 24.4% | PFR: 19.9% | AGG: 35.1% | Flop Agg: 38.3% | Turn Agg: 34.8% | River Agg: 33.5% | 3Bet: 7.5% | 4Bet: 10.1% | Hands: 51698]

Dealt to Hero: 7 7

CO Folds, HERO Raises To $0.25, SB Calls $0.20, BB Folds

Hero SPR on Flop: [15.4 effective]
Flop ($0.60): 7 A 2
SB Checks, HERO Bets $0.57 (Rem. Stack: $9.18), SB Calls $0.57 (Rem. Stack: $8.67)

Turn ($1.74): 7 A 2 K
SB Checks, HERO Bets $0.83 (Rem. Stack: $8.35), SB Raises To $2.49 (Rem. Stack: $6.18), HERO Calls $1.66 (Rem. Stack: $6.69)

River ($6.72): 7 A 2 K T
SB Bets $6.18 (allin), HERO Folds

Spoiler:

SB wins: $6.38
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11-09-2024 , 08:26 AM
Had to quit session a bit early cos my connection was really slow and sitting me out on some tables.

Day 45 results:


BR: $318.9
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11-09-2024 , 08:49 AM
Locking a win, begining of a turn around! glgl
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11-09-2024 , 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by DeeKayBee
Locking a win, begining of a turn around! glgl
I normally play with all my charts out of the ranges I made but I think it might be a bit too much tbh because when I look back at some of my hand histories I'm noticing a lot of things I didn't pick up on or little mistakes I made in real time. So for a while i'm goin to play without them and see if my focus improves cos it's severely lacking lately. One other option is to take a few days off or something I guess but i'll try this first. Most of the downswing is just variance but some of it is lack of focus as well. And thanks, hope so
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11-09-2024 , 09:23 AM
Yes, you have to plan for days off, because otherwise you can get burned out and the quality of the game and the results will start to go down.

GL!
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11-13-2024 , 04:17 PM
I decided to take a few days off since I've caught a cold and wasn't feeling too well anyway so thought this would be a good time to refocus. I tried logging in to pokerstars today for the first time in a few days and it hangs forever on the update screen but eventually lets me put my pin in and log in. But something is not right cos my avatar is missing and I can't play any games, just says 'your registration could not be processed, please try again later'. Contacted support and awaiting their reply. I'll post the weekly graph anyway since it's Wednesday though I haven't played much this week.


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11-13-2024 , 07:02 PM
Nice one mate
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11-15-2024 , 03:15 PM
Bit of an update. Moved half my role to party to give me more options when the stars tables are bad. Played first session this morning. Finding it hard to win a single hand at the moment.

Day 46 results:



BR: $280.02


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AA Squeezed pot:
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NL Holdem 0.10(BB)
CO ($8.82) [VPIP: 31.7% | PFR: 17.7% | AGG: 37.2% | Flop Agg: 36.6% | Turn Agg: 35.2% | River Agg: 43.2% | 3Bet: 0% | 4Bet: 15.4% | Hands: 334]
BTN ($15.24) [VPIP: 36.9% | PFR: 13.4% | AGG: 32.7% | Hands: 328]
SB ($32.65) [VPIP: 40.2% | PFR: 12.1% | AGG: 31.6% | Flop Agg: 32.7% | Turn Agg: 28.4% | River Agg: 39.7% | 3Bet: 7.3% | 4Bet: 0% | Cold Call: 23.5% | Hands: 348]
HERO ($10) [VPIP: 20.6% | PFR: 18.5% | AGG: 29.6% | Flop Agg: 33.3% | Turn Agg: 25.4% | River Agg: 31.1% | 3Bet: 6.6% | Fold to 3Bet: 61.1% | 4Bet: 0% | Hands: 475]

Dealt to Hero: A:diamond: A:spade:

CO Raises To $0.35, BTN Folds, SB Calls $0.30, HERO Raises To $1.50, CO Calls $1.15, SB Calls $1.15

Hero SPR on Flop: [1.63 effective]
Flop ($4.50): 5:diamond: 9:diamond: K:club:
SB Checks, HERO Bets $2.14 (Rem. Stack: $6.36), CO Folds, SB Calls $2.14 (Rem. Stack: $29.01)

Turn ($8.78): 5:diamond: 9:diamond: K:club: 7:heart:
SB Checks, HERO Bets $6.36 (allin), SB Calls $6.36 (Rem. Stack: $22.65)

River ($21.50): 5:diamond: 9:diamond: K:club: 7:heart: T:club:

Players agreed to run it 2 times.

River #2($21.50): 5:diamond: 9:diamond: K:club: 7:heart: 7:spade:


Spoiler:

SB shows: 9:heart: 9:spade:

SB wins: $20.50


Should have folded river given his sizing i think. New site, not playing my A game yet:

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NL Holdem 0.10(BB)
SB ($10) [VPIP: 40.2% | PFR: 12.1% | AGG: 31.6% | Hands: 348]
BB ($6.95) [VPIP: 30.6% | PFR: 8.3% | AGG: 23.2% | Hands: 332]
UTG ($13.72) [VPIP: 31.7% | PFR: 17.7% | AGG: 37.2% | Hands: 334]
HJ ($55.28) [VPIP: 36.9% | PFR: 13.4% | AGG: 32.7% | Flop Agg: 33% | Turn Agg: 37.3% | River Agg: 30.6% | 3Bet: 5.7% | 4Bet: 0% | Hands: 328]
CO ($5.04) [VPIP: 33.3% | PFR: 16.8% | AGG: 31.6% | Hands: 291]
HERO ($10.99) [VPIP: 20.6% | PFR: 18.5% | AGG: 29.6% | Flop Agg: 33.3% | Turn Agg: 25.4% | River Agg: 31.1% | 3Bet: 6.6% | Fold to 3Bet: 61.1% | 4Bet: 0% | Hands: 475]

Dealt to Hero: K:heart: K:spade:

UTG Folds, HJ Raises To $0.30, CO Folds, HERO Raises To $0.90, SB Folds, BB Folds, HJ Calls $0.60

Hero SPR on Flop: [5.17 effective]
Flop ($1.95): 2:club: 8:club: J:spade:
HJ Checks, HERO Bets $0.93 (Rem. Stack: $9.16), HJ Calls $0.93 (Rem. Stack: $53.45)

Turn ($3.81): 2:club: 8:club: J:spade: Q:club:
HJ Checks, HERO Checks

River ($3.81): 2:club: 8:club: J:spade: Q:club: J:diamond:
HJ Bets $3.60 (Rem. Stack: $49.85), HERO Calls $3.60 (Rem. Stack: $5.56)

Spoiler:

HJ shows: J:heart: Q:heart:

HJ wins: $10.46



Was looking to x/r somewhere depending on his sizing etc. But just got that feeling you know:

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NL Holdem 0.10(BB)
BB ($12.02) [VPIP: 30.6% | PFR: 8.3% | AGG: 23.2% | Flop Agg: 15.4% | Turn Agg: 31% | River Agg: 29.3% | 3Bet: 6% | 4Bet: 0% | Cold Call: 32.4% | Hands: 332]
BTN ($16.16) [VPIP: 31.7% | PFR: 17.7% | AGG: 37.2% | Hands: 334]
HERO ($10.38) [VPIP: 20.6% | PFR: 18.5% | AGG: 29.6% | Flop Agg: 33.3% | Turn Agg: 25.4% | River Agg: 31.1% | 3Bet: 6.6% | 4Bet: 0% | Hands: 475]

Dealt to Hero: A:diamond: A:club:

BTN Folds, HERO Raises To $0.30, BB Calls $0.20

Hero SPR on Flop: [16.8 effective]
Flop ($0.60): 2:heart: 4:spade: 3:club:
HERO Checks, BB Bets $0.28 (Rem. Stack: $11.44), HERO Calls $0.28 (Rem. Stack: $9.80)

Turn ($1.16): 2:heart: 4:spade: 3:club: 2:diamond:
HERO Checks, BB Bets $0.85 (Rem. Stack: $10.59), HERO Calls $0.85 (Rem. Stack: $8.95)

River ($2.86): 2:heart: 4:spade: 3:club: 2:diamond: Q:diamond:
HERO Checks, BB Bets $2.35 (Rem. Stack: $8.24), HERO Calls $2.35 (Rem. Stack: $6.60)

Spoiler:

BB shows: 5:club: 6:club:

BB wins: $7.19



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NL Holdem 0.10(BB)
HJ ($3.77) [VPIP: 31.7% | PFR: 17.7% | AGG: 37.2% | Flop Agg: 36.6% | Turn Agg: 35.2% | River Agg: 43.2% | 3Bet: 0% | 4Bet: 15.4% | Hands: 334]
CO ($13.60) [VPIP: 36.9% | PFR: 13.4% | AGG: 32.7% | Hands: 328]
BTN ($12.73) [VPIP: 33.3% | PFR: 16.8% | AGG: 31.6% | Hands: 291]
SB ($22.19) [VPIP: 40.2% | PFR: 12.1% | AGG: 31.6% | Hands: 348]
HERO ($10.21) [VPIP: 20.6% | PFR: 18.5% | AGG: 29.6% | Hands: 475]

Dealt to Hero: Q:heart: A:spade:

HJ Calls $0.10, CO Folds, BTN Folds, SB Folds, HERO Raises To $0.50, HJ Raises To $3.77 (allin), HERO Calls $3.27

Flop ($7.59): 2:heart: A:diamond: 7:spade:

Turn ($7.59): 2:heart: A:diamond: 7:spade: K:diamond:

River ($7.59): 2:heart: A:diamond: 7:spade: K:diamond: 6:diamond:

Spoiler:

HJ shows: 2:spade: A:club:

HJ wins: $7.22

Last edited by andymc1; 11-15-2024 at 03:23 PM.
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11-16-2024 , 02:57 PM
I think I might have to stop playing for a while. I've hit the motherload of runbad and now I'm starting to play bad because of it.

Day 47 results:


Some hands:
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This was the hand I played where I decided it was time I took a long break:
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This happened just before the KQ hand. Was going to get it in on safe turns.
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I was on the fence otr whether to raise but had him tagged as a fish so thought it was ok:
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One of the first few hands of the session this morning. Villain showed KQo. Guess I should have jammed turn:
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Last edited by andymc1; 11-16-2024 at 03:05 PM.
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11-16-2024 , 07:45 PM
Better to take a break, the variance in this game is hard to cope with (*) and it's not worth being sad because of a game. You can also review your hands, see how they should be played in a GTO context and how you think this strategy should change playing vs 10NL population etc etc...
If you play all the time and don't study enough, it's very hard to progress. Especially when you are in a downswing and use the hands you lost for studying, you at least have the feeling you get something good from a bad period.

Not sure about folding KJ in the squeezed pot above!

(*) sometimes we experience positive variance also, I just finished a miraculous session where I was up 10 BIs after 1 500 hands, even though I'm a very average microtakes player.
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11-17-2024 , 06:07 AM
'...or die trying'

Don't die playing poker.
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11-17-2024 , 06:46 AM
I watched your development a bit and noticed a clear difference when you switched to a bigger level. Would it be worth it to go back and pick up speed from a lower level?

Of course, that 20k hand can also be a variance, but since it's a Bumhunt tactic where in practice you play against beginners where you choose the best position etc etc you should win more.

That's why I don't play with the Bumhunt strategy at all, because it only focuses on fish and hunting them, and at the same time personal development remains low. It will also die near future coz all the Gto stategy etc etc..


+ I recommend the Rush & cash tables because there you get opponents of all levels and a lot of hands played in a quick time. Gl HF
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11-17-2024 , 07:44 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by boulgakov
Better to take a break, the variance in this game is hard to cope with (*) and it's not worth being sad because of a game. You can also review your hands, see how they should be played in a GTO context and how you think this strategy should change playing vs 10NL population etc etc...
If you play all the time and don't study enough, it's very hard to progress. Especially when you are in a downswing and use the hands you lost for studying, you at least have the feeling you get something good from a bad period.

Not sure about folding KJ in the squeezed pot above!

(*) sometimes we experience positive variance also, I just finished a miraculous session where I was up 10 BIs after 1 500 hands, even though I'm a very average microtakes player.
Yeah I've been studying a lot. Way more than I play. It doesn't really help much, feel like I was a better player before I went on a study marathon.

The KJ hand was limped. High variance low EV spot either way I think.
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11-17-2024 , 07:45 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ceres
'...or die trying'

Don't die playing poker.
I'm dying here Ceres!
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11-17-2024 , 07:48 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BiLLAllas
I watched your development a bit and noticed a clear difference when you switched to a bigger level. Would it be worth it to go back and pick up speed from a lower level?

Of course, that 20k hand can also be a variance, but since it's a Bumhunt tactic where in practice you play against beginners where you choose the best position etc etc you should win more.

That's why I don't play with the Bumhunt strategy at all, because it only focuses on fish and hunting them, and at the same time personal development remains low. It will also die near future coz all the Gto stategy etc etc..


+ I recommend the Rush & cash tables because there you get opponents of all levels and a lot of hands played in a quick time. Gl HF
Move down if bankroll reaches 200.

I think once you get to a certain level, like solid preflop and postflop game with no major and consistent mistakes anything else skillwise is just a very very thin layer of frosting on the XXXL cake of variance.

I think if fish become a thing of the past like you say they will need to drastically lower the rake or 99.999% of players will be losing.
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11-17-2024 , 08:18 AM
Fish will never become a thing of the past while humans are playing.
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11-17-2024 , 08:22 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by andymc1
I think once you get to a certain level, like solid preflop and postflop game with no major and consistent mistakes anything else skillwise is just a very very thin layer of frosting on the XXXL cake of variance.

I think if fish become a thing of the past like you say they will need to drastically lower the rake or 99.999% of players will be losing.

1st argument I disagree, Poker is such a complex and deep game that there are always ways to improve (Understanding of game/psychology/player reading/ Position at tables/etc.) Very fluent game and the one that is able to adjust the best will win the most. Also the higher the win rate the less variance impacts you (check primedope.com for yourself).

2nd argument I agree, even tho there are game with very small rake where Regs can battle like ACR or PS highstakes. Thinking Reg is not gonna play other Reg HU if the rake 10bb/100h.
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11-17-2024 , 09:03 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DeeKayBee
1st argument I disagree, Poker is such a complex and deep game that there are always ways to improve (Understanding of game/psychology/player reading/ Position at tables/etc.) Very fluent game and the one that is able to adjust the best will win the most. Also the higher the win rate the less variance impacts you (check primedope.com for yourself).

2nd argument I agree, even tho there are game with very small rake where Regs can battle like ACR or PS highstakes. Thinking Reg is not gonna play other Reg HU if the rake 10bb/100h.
Yeah there are always way to improve. Just saying all those concepts put together and applied properly add a relatively very small amount to your winrate over someone who simply has a solid strategy compared to a fish. Yeah ofc, but I bet if you took one of the biggest crushers from high stakes and put them in micros they would still go on 15+/20+ buy in down swings eventually, which demonstrates my point I think.

[7bb/100]Poker genius>>[5bb/100]Solid player>>>>>>>>>>>>>>[-30bb/100]Fish
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11-17-2024 , 09:07 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by andymc1
Yeah I've been studying a lot. Way more than I play. It doesn't really help much, feel like I was a better player before I went on a study marathon.

The KJ hand was limped. High variance low EV spot either way I think.
Studying is always worthwhile, and then there will be a lot of mistakes. Fortunately, you usually learn from them and the bigger the mistake, the better it is remembered. I noticed that my results dropped when I started to learn gto strategy more deeply and I started to play too much like gto at first until I moved more to my old playing style, but understanding gto has made my bluffs more accurate and I can theoretically explain many situations to myself better. Reading the game has improved a lot since gto
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11-17-2024 , 09:40 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by andymc1
Move down if bankroll reaches 200.

I think once you get to a certain level, like solid preflop and postflop game with no major and consistent mistakes anything else skillwise is just a very very thin layer of frosting on the XXXL cake of variance.

I think if fish become a thing of the past like you say they will need to drastically lower the rake or 99.999% of players will be losing.
that's true and that's why it's important to find exploits other than gto and be able to influence the winrate in different ways. for example a table image. by playing almost gto good players are able to exploit you if their gto knowledge is almost the same but their sense of the real situation is better. Still playing straight forward to GTO you can win +20bb/100 before rake in microstakes
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11-17-2024 , 10:03 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by andymc1
Yeah there are always way to improve. Just saying all those concepts put together and applied properly add a relatively very small amount to your winrate over someone who simply has a solid strategy compared to a fish. Yeah ofc, but I bet if you took one of the biggest crushers from high stakes and put them in micros they would still go on 15+/20+ buy in down swings eventually, which demonstrates my point I think.
I think its safe to assume HS crusher would have +20bb/100h winrate at micros (This is if played 100k hands)

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11-17-2024 , 10:27 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DeeKayBee
I think its safe to assume HS crusher would have +20bb/100h winrate at micros (This is if played 100k hands)


most of the time I have at least 1 10-20bi downswing in 100,000k hands and I have over 20+bb/100 after rake. I play NL5 so its not rare but a good comparison nonetheless
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11-17-2024 , 10:31 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BiLLAllas
that's true and that's why it's important to find exploits other than gto and be able to influence the winrate in different ways. for example a table image. by playing almost gto good players are able to exploit you if their gto knowledge is almost the same but their sense of the real situation is better. Still playing straight forward to GTO you can win +20bb/100 before rake in microstakes
From million players maybe only few can achieve such winrates, we can count those players on 5 fingers maybe, ofc volume not less than 100k, especially on sites like GG where rake is ridiculously high, general population of regs have tiny winrates

Quote:
Originally Posted by DeeKayBee
I think its safe to assume HS crusher would have +20bb/100h winrate at micros (This is if played 100k hands)

Lately i was thinking Rake cap is big thing, HS crushers have rake cap so low on their stake like 0.75BB or even less while micros have 10BB+ this means if we shove pre with AK/QQ and get into coinflips we lose 10BB to rake per shove if gets called while its standard for HS crusher to get allin with such hands because he loses only 1.5BB or less per shove at his stake, if crusher plays micros without big big adjustments he wont be able to have such winrate imo
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