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09-29-2014 , 12:36 PM
If you're losing at .05 and .10 levels, youll get slaughtered at $1/2. You were doing well at the lower levels. If you take away anything from this is should be a lesson in discipline.
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09-29-2014 , 12:45 PM
I think you need to focus more on your mental game bro( its half the battle in poker). If you move up everytime you lose then you will go broke. I've also done that before, I remember tilting once on a site which had an online casino...ended up losing 70 dollars on blackjack in like 2 minutes.

But yeah, there will be days when you lose but if you dont have the discipline to overcome losing sessions then you will probably go busto

Hope you don't though- been a fun thread to follow
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09-29-2014 , 03:05 PM
Hey guys thanks for the kind words of advice. Yeah, I've been reading the mental game of poker and I do actually think it's helping.

You know today I played fine. Probably my best I've ever been playing, so I decided to move up to 5NL... even though I'm under rolled, and I continued playing my A game.

Last interesting hand was against a very bad bluffer, his line wasn't convincing to me at all - do you guys reckon a call here is good?



    Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #31127551

    BTN: $8.18 (163.6 bb)
    SB: $5 (100 bb)
    BB: $5.05 (101 bb)
    UTG+1: $4.33 (86.6 bb)
    UTG+2: $5.35 (107 bb)
    MP1: $15.68 (313.6 bb)
    Hero (MP2): $14.57 (291.4 bb)
    MP3: $5.07 (101.4 bb)
    CO: $4.76 (95.2 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K A
    UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 raises to $0.10, MP1 folds, Hero calls $0.10, 4 folds, BB calls $0.05

    Flop: ($0.32) T 2 7 (3 players)
    BB checks, UTG+2 bets $0.15, Hero calls $0.15, BB folds

    Turn: ($0.62) A (2 players)
    UTG+2 checks, Hero bets $0.40, UTG+2 raises to $0.80, Hero calls $0.40

    River: ($2.22) 6 (2 players)
    UTG+2 bets $1.10, Hero calls $1.10

    Spoiler:
    Results: $4.42 pot ($0.18 rake)
    Final Board: T 2 7 A 6
    UTG+2 showed Q J and lost (-$2.15 net)
    Hero showed K A and won $4.24 ($2.09 net)



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    BR: $83.67
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    09-29-2014 , 03:33 PM
    Do you play with a HUD? Always a bit easier to analyse the hands when you have stats avialable. At the lowest limits they generally say that you should have 2pair+ to call a turn raise but if you have a history with him where you have seen him pull off a lot of bluffs then I dont mind the river call

    However I would definantely 3 bet pre here to about 35c
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    09-29-2014 , 04:02 PM
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    Originally Posted by Rawbies
    Do you play with a HUD? Always a bit easier to analyse the hands when you have stats avialable. At the lowest limits they generally say that you should have 2pair+ to call a turn raise but if you have a history with him where you have seen him pull off a lot of bluffs then I dont mind the river call

    However I would definantely 3 bet pre here to about 35c
    Hi - I don't play with a HUD. I'll probably download Holdem Manager at a later date. I just take meticulous notes on players & have a color code scheme going on, that's about it.

    Yeah I agree with you, I don't really like my call pre flop either. I would normally 3bet AK if I was a little later in position. I suppose it was pot controlling, because this was actually the first time I saw this player raise that early, so I was expecting QQ+. I was surprised that he turned over QJ. But oh well, maybe I gave him too much credit.
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    09-29-2014 , 04:44 PM
    Update: Just made ChromeStar Status.

    BR: $85.33

    That's me done for today.
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    09-30-2014 , 04:37 AM
    Time to take your BR to the Spin & Go's, $30 buy in has a jackpot of 36k


    then you can play whatever the fark you want
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    09-30-2014 , 05:12 AM
    If you're having trouble with chasing losses, you can use the Responsible Gaming feature to block higher stakes. It takes 24 hours to set a higher restriction, which is a lot of time to shake off a bad beat or whatever it is that's got you tilted.
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    09-30-2014 , 05:36 AM
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    Originally Posted by walkby
    If you're having trouble with chasing losses, you can use the Responsible Gaming feature to block higher stakes. It takes 24 hours to set a higher restriction, which is a lot of time to shake off a bad beat or whatever it is that's got you tilted.
    You know what. I knew of the feature, but I never used it because I thought I could control myself. Re-reading my thread, I knew it was the right thing to do.

    I took your advice.

    Thanks!

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    09-30-2014 , 05:52 AM
    $172 to $400+ that's a big gap, what happened in between here for you to increase your BR by $230+?
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    09-30-2014 , 06:01 AM
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    Originally Posted by Chanty57
    $172 to $400+ that's a big gap, what happened in between here for you to increase your BR by $230+?
    I wasn't playing with "proper" bankroll management.
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    09-30-2014 , 06:56 AM
    gl sir.
    Don't feel bad about degening off most of your roll at a higher stake. Many many poker players including myself have done the same before, it is how you recover that matters. When grinding up the right way you will find that it is much easier and you will make more money long term.
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    09-30-2014 , 09:49 AM
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    Originally Posted by trent32la
    gl sir.
    Don't feel bad about degening off most of your roll at a higher stake. Many many poker players including myself have done the same before, it is how you recover that matters. When grinding up the right way you will find that it is much easier and you will make more money long term.
    Hey thanks, yeah I had to take a break for a few months due to being on life tilt after degening away my last roll. I know it's in me to go on rage tilt, so that's why I self banned stakes higher than 5NL.

    Played a good session today. Just a few bucks off moving up to 5NL. I'm going to use a 20 BI strategy (for now) - and stick to it. When I hit $100, I'll take a proper shot at 5NL. I might play later... don't know.

    BR: $93.34

    Last edited by Zzoop; 09-30-2014 at 09:56 AM.
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    09-30-2014 , 03:04 PM
    So I played more.

    BR: $97.13

    I had it up to $99.90 at one point, was determined to stop at $100 and celebrate beating 2NL the most legitimate manner I have ever beaten it. (ie, not jumping into 50NL winning a few hands to get over $100 lol)

    Failed. So I'll end today at 97. Hopefully tomorrow, if I don't run bad, I'll reach 5NL and hopefully (fingers crossed) never have to play 2NL EVER again!!!!! weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!
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    09-30-2014 , 05:55 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Zzoop
    So I played more.

    BR: $97.13

    I had it up to $99.90 at one point, was determined to stop at $100 and celebrate beating 2NL the most legitimate manner I have ever beaten it. (ie, not jumping into 50NL winning a few hands to get over $100 lol)

    Failed. So I'll end today at 97. Hopefully tomorrow, if I don't run bad, I'll reach 5NL and hopefully (fingers crossed) never have to play 2NL EVER again!!!!! weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!
    This isn't a great way of thinking about it. Progression through the stakes isn't what is important it's your progression as a player. The best player in the world could play 5nl w/$100 and drop 4BI (or whatever your move down is) and following BRM move down and this sets it up as if you have somehow failed when that isn't the case.

    It also sets targets that rely on short term variance and will seriously annoy you when they don't happen. At least that's been the case for me.
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    10-01-2014 , 07:32 AM
    I did it! Thoughts from 2NL...

    So, I made it to over $100 just now. This is (for me) a major accomplishment because I am sure I have beat 2NL for the first time properly. In the past, I lost a few buyins then rage tilted up the limits to win big to push the roll over $100. This time I managed to get over the $100 line 90% with 2NL play.

    My journey from the 26th Sept was pretty much like this....

    Deposit $39 (well... $38.99 to be exact)
    Play 2NL, lose a few buyins, move to 25NL win it back.. break even..
    Play solid 2NL...move up to 5NL on one tilt fest..small winner...
    Self ban games higher than 5NL
    Grind 2NL past $100 today.

    This is also the quickest I've "beaten" 2NL - in 5 days.

    I just hope I don't have to move down again (but I will if I have to as above poster mentioned, there's no shame in moving down right?)

    Today I started at 97 bucks.... grinded to 99... was getting excited... then went on a devasting down swing to 93 bucks... I just kept my head, kept playing my A game and this was the hand that moved me across the line:





      Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #31192191

      BTN: $1.97 (98.5 bb)
      SB: $2.93 (146.5 bb)
      BB: $2.32 (116 bb)
      UTG+1: $1.76 (88 bb)
      UTG+2: $1.87 (93.5 bb)
      MP1: $0.81 (40.5 bb)
      MP2: $1.97 (98.5 bb)
      MP3: $2.30 (115 bb)
      Hero (CO): $6.65 (332.5 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is CO with 5 9
      4 folds, MP3 raises to $0.06, Hero raises to $0.18, 3 folds, MP3 calls $0.12

      Flop: ($0.39) 9 J 7 (2 players)
      MP3 checks, Hero bets $0.38, MP3 calls $0.38

      Turn: ($1.15) 6 (2 players)
      MP3 checks, Hero bets $0.68, MP3 raises to $1.74 and is all-in, Hero calls $1.06

      River: ($4.63) 4 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

      Spoiler:
      Results: $4.63 pot ($0.16 rake)
      Final Board: 9 J 7 6 4
      MP3 showed A Q and lost (-$2.30 net)
      Hero showed 5 9 and won $4.47 ($2.17 net)



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      Now I know 3betting 59o aint the wisest or prettiest thing in the world to do.... buuuutttt... my notes on villain gave me enough reason to. I expected him to lay it down pre.... put what do you know.... sometimes the junkiest hands can be the most profitable....

      BR:
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      10-01-2014 , 10:27 AM
      I just moved out of the 5NL zoom pool, what is your SN on stars? If you don't mind sharing. I'd love to see if I have hands on you.
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      10-01-2014 , 12:42 PM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by Zzoop
      I did it! Thoughts from 2NL...



        Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
        Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #31192191

        BTN: $1.97 (98.5 bb)
        SB: $2.93 (146.5 bb)
        BB: $2.32 (116 bb)
        UTG+1: $1.76 (88 bb)
        UTG+2: $1.87 (93.5 bb)
        MP1: $0.81 (40.5 bb)
        MP2: $1.97 (98.5 bb)
        MP3: $2.30 (115 bb)
        Hero (CO): $6.65 (332.5 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is CO with 5 9
        4 folds, MP3 raises to $0.06, Hero raises to $0.18, 3 folds, MP3 calls $0.12

        Flop: ($0.39) 9 J 7 (2 players)
        MP3 checks, Hero bets $0.38, MP3 calls $0.38

        Turn: ($1.15) 6 (2 players)
        MP3 checks, Hero bets $0.68, MP3 raises to $1.74 and is all-in, Hero calls $1.06

        River: ($4.63) 4 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

        Spoiler:
        Results: $4.63 pot ($0.16 rake)
        Final Board: 9 J 7 6 4
        MP3 showed A Q and lost (-$2.30 net)
        Hero showed 5 9 and won $4.47 ($2.17 net)



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        Now I know 3betting 59o aint the wisest or prettiest thing in the world to do.... buuuutttt... my notes on villain gave me enough reason to. I expected him to lay it down pre.... put what do you know.... sometimes the junkiest hands can be the most profitable....
        This makes no sense, i mean, this is the easiest fold ever (especially playing nitring), but lets forget that.

        If you expect villain to fold a lot pre, we have to assume that his range postflop when he calls will be stronger right? so why do you keep not only betting, but also calling his c/shove? thats VERY bad.
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        10-02-2014 , 07:20 AM
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        Originally Posted by Summnormal
        This makes no sense, i mean, this is the easiest fold ever (especially playing nitring), but lets forget that.

        If you expect villain to fold a lot pre, we have to assume that his range postflop when he calls will be stronger right? so why do you keep not only betting, but also calling his c/shove? thats VERY bad.
        I have a lot of history with the opponent.

        He didnt have a low pocket pair because he limps with them 90% of the time.

        My thought process was, he doesnt have a big pair like AA, KK, QQ because he'd have reraised me pre. He called, so yes, you're right, stronger than I thought - he called, so I put him on AK/AQ/AJ... he would have raised the flop with AJ, so I culled that.

        My bet on turn he should have folded, at this stage I had him on overs.

        So a call with a pair of nines was easy.

        Easy call.
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        10-02-2014 , 08:48 AM
        That hand was absolutely horrendous on every street and if you can't see that I doubt you could even turn a long term profit on the playmoney games.
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        10-02-2014 , 09:05 AM
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        Originally Posted by DonkeyStars
        That hand was absolutely horrendous on every street and if you can't see that I doubt you could even turn a long term profit on the playmoney games.
        yeah, because I play 95o like that long term every time, against every opponent, at any position at the table.......
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        10-02-2014 , 09:34 AM
        In my game I will exploitatively 3 bet certain opponents very light (like the hand you posted). If I expect them to fold and they call, I will put them on a much stronger range. AA-TT, AKs-AQo. I think there are more Pocket Pairs in his range then AK/AK so its scary. Great job that it worked for you though.
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        10-02-2014 , 12:07 PM
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        Originally Posted by Zzoop
        yeah, because I play 95o like that long term every time, against every opponent, at any position at the table.......
        Why do you have the need to defend your indeed horrendous play with sarcastic answer,just admit that you've played this nahd poorly and move on.This is how good players learn.
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        10-02-2014 , 01:03 PM
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        Originally Posted by Zzoop
        yeah, because I play 95o like that long term every time, against every opponent, at any position at the table.......
        No offense but players like you are reason why I am winning at 2nl...
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        10-02-2014 , 01:11 PM
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        Originally Posted by sipio
        No offense but players like you are reason why I am winning at 2nl...
        lol no offense taken at all!

        I'll see you at 5NL!
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