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04-19-2024 , 02:36 AM
I am going to be starting with $25 in my Ignition Account and try to spin it up to $25,000.

I will start at 5nl since it is the lowest stake on the site and be playing Ignition Reg tables only.

I will be updating every 5k hands with my progress.

My expectation for each limit is as follows:

Expected Winrates for each limit:

5NL: 30bb/100

10NL: 25bb/100

25NL: 20bb/100

50NL: 15bb/100

100NL: 12bb/100

200NL: 10bb/100

Variance will be a decent factor in a lot of these winrates but these are just ball park numbers. Once I hit 25k I will take a 10buyin shot at 500nl! As far as moving up I'll move up whenever I feel like it, but probably after winning 30-40 buyins at the limit.

There will be no cherry picking here since you can't cherry pick a Bankroll Challenge. Wish me luck (or not) and follow along in this thread.
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04-19-2024 , 03:19 AM
GL then!
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04-19-2024 , 07:43 AM
glgl, how many tables are you gonna play?
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04-19-2024 , 09:02 AM
Good luck! Starting out with only 5 buy-ins for 5NL is intense.

I recently got $25 in freeplay on a newer online poker site and am in the process of trying to spin it up myself. Good results for me so far, hopefully you experience the same!
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04-19-2024 , 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by DeeKayBee
glgl, how many tables are you gonna play?
4 tables (max for Iggy)
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04-19-2024 , 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Dan GK
Good luck! Starting out with only 5 buy-ins for 5NL is intense.

I recently got $25 in freeplay on a newer online poker site and am in the process of trying to spin it up myself. Good results for me so far, hopefully you experience the same!
Good luck to you as well!
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04-19-2024 , 11:32 AM
And so it begins:

What I will NOT do in this thread:

1. Post any MDA

2. Post Bot/Collusion strategies that I am developing

What I will do in this thread:

1. Post HH's revealing MDA strategies vs Fish

2. Post HH's revealing MDA strategies vs Regs.

Exhibit A:

If you are playing vs Fish you need to play much wider preflop to maximally exploit them. Solvers fold here but it's irrelevant vs a Fish.

On the river, you need to bet small to induce bluffs. If you were bluffing here you would overbet.

Hand History driven straight to this forum with DriveHUD 2 Poker Tracking Software

NL Holdem 0.05(BB)
HERO ($5.44) [VPIP: 29.1% | PFR: 24.2% | AGG: 36.7% | Flop Agg: 41.5% | Turn Agg: 33.9% | River Agg: 37.4% | 3Bet: 11.5% | 4Bet: 13.9% | Cold Call: 9.3% | Hands: 332110]
SB ($5.26) [VPIP: 23.8% | PFR: 19% | AGG: 40% | Hands: 22]
BB ($1.64) [VPIP: 19.2% | PFR: 11.5% | AGG: 25% | Hands: 26]
UTG ($3.79) [VPIP: 26.5% | PFR: 0% | AGG: 24% | Flop Agg: 22.2% | Turn Agg: 22.2% | River Agg: 28.6% | 3Bet: 0% | 4Bet: 0% | Hands: 34]
HJ ($5.81) [VPIP: 60.9% | PFR: 39.1% | AGG: 25% | Flop Agg: 30% | Turn Agg: 20% | River Agg: 50% | 3Bet: 50% | 4Bet: 0% | Hands: 24]
CO ($9.50) [VPIP: 14.7% | PFR: 11.8% | AGG: 10% | Hands: 35]

Dealt to Hero: T 8

UTG Calls $0.05, HJ Raises To $0.15, CO Folds, HERO Calls $0.15, SB Folds, BB Folds, UTG Calls $0.10

Hero SPR on Flop: [7 effective]
Flop ($0.52): A 4 9
UTG Checks, HJ Checks, HERO Checks

Turn ($0.52): A 4 9 J
UTG Checks, HJ Checks, HERO Bets $0.34 (Rem. Stack: $4.95), UTG Folds, HJ Calls $0.34 (Rem. Stack: $5.32)

River ($1.20): A 4 9 J 7
HJ Checks, HERO Bets $0.57 (Rem. Stack: $4.38), HJ Raises To $5.32 (allin), HERO Calls $4.38 (allin)

Spoiler:

HJ shows: Q K

HERO wins: $10.55


Exhibit B:

Against 5nl/10nl regs I am going to be playing a max exploit strategy vs a likely 1/3 range bets in 3bps. Raise any two cards here and bluff flush completes/4 to straight completes.

Hand History driven straight to this forum with DriveHUD 2 Poker HUD and Database Software

NL Holdem 0.05(BB)
HERO ($5.12) [VPIP: 29.1% | PFR: 24.2% | AGG: 36.7% | Flop Agg: 41.5% | 3Bet: 11.5% | 4Bet: 13.9% | Hands: 332110]
SB ($4.95) [VPIP: 33.3% | PFR: 28.6% | AGG: 66.7% | Flop Agg: 80% | 3Bet: 33.3% | Fold to 3Bet: 0% | 4Bet: 0% | Hands: 21]
BB ($5) [VPIP: 30.6% | PFR: 22.2% | AGG: 14.3% | Hands: 36]
UTG ($2.45) [VPIP: 56% | PFR: 32% | AGG: 52.2% | Hands: 26]
HJ ($8.50) [VPIP: 13% | PFR: 4.3% | AGG: 41.7% | Hands: 23]
CO ($5.55) [VPIP: 18.5% | PFR: 14.8% | AGG: 14.3% | Hands: 28]

Dealt to Hero: 9 Q

UTG Folds, HJ Folds, CO Folds, HERO Raises To $0.13, SB Raises To $0.52, BB Folds, HERO Calls $0.39

Hero SPR on Flop: [4.06 effective]
Flop ($1.09): 7 4 3
SB Bets $0.34 (Rem. Stack: $4.09), HERO Raises To $1.02 (Rem. Stack: $3.58), SB Folds

Spoiler:

HERO wins: $1.69
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04-19-2024 , 08:13 PM
Subbed, your shot taking should be more aggressive imo
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04-19-2024 , 10:12 PM
glglglglglgl

If you can pull this off you'll really silence any doubters about your coaching imo
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04-20-2024 , 02:02 AM
the w/r at 25NL and above are insane. Ignition is soft, but not that soft.
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04-20-2024 , 11:37 AM
Alvin Lau managed it (or at least claimed he managed it) playing zone. I don't see why it wouldn't be doable for Doodoo, playing regular tables.

I like how he is making the BRM rules the "correct", conservative way (other than now at the beginning obv), so no one can really say in the end he just got lucky.

GLGLGL
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04-21-2024 , 02:58 AM
Respectfully, this seems like a collossal waste of time especially for someone who is good at poker. Can I ask why you chose to start at $25?
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04-21-2024 , 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by wereallgonnamakeit
Respectfully, this seems like a collossal waste of time especially for someone who is good at poker. Can I ask why you chose to start at $25?
It's a colossal waste of time if you treat poker like a job and only care about your hourly. But I don't think that is the best way to approach it.

Poker players look down on microstakes/small stakes all the time. I used to be friends with a guy who whenever we would go play live would never play 1/2 because of the perception that he would think it made him look like a bad player (even though he was terrible).

If you go play live and you play 1/2. The 2/5 players will look down on you. Likewise with the 5/10 players to the 2/5 players. It's all nonsense.

Just because you play a certain stake doesn't make you good. How you think about the game makes you good.

I chose $25 because it was a catchy title to go from $25-->$25k.

Also I think you are underestimating how important it is to study bot play.

Fun HH where we turn 2 pair into a bluff.

Hand History driven straight to this forum with DriveHUD 2 Poker HUD and Database Software

NL Holdem 0.05(BB)
HERO ($5) [VPIP: 29.1% | PFR: 24.2% | AGG: 36.7% | Flop Agg: 41.5% | Turn Agg: 33.9% | River Agg: 37.4% | 3Bet: 11.5% | 4Bet: 13.9% | Hands: 332352]
BTN ($5.10) [VPIP: 36% | PFR: 20% | AGG: 28.6% | Flop Agg: 25% | Turn Agg: 50% | River Agg: 0% | 3Bet: 8.3% | 4Bet: 0% | Cold Call: 30.8% | Hands: 27]
SB ($5.96) [VPIP: 25.9% | PFR: 22.2% | AGG: 77.8% | Hands: 27]
BB ($2.34) [VPIP: 22.1% | PFR: 10.4% | AGG: 46.2% | Hands: 77]
UTG ($5.16) [VPIP: 22% | PFR: 15.3% | AGG: 37.5% | Hands: 61]
HJ ($8.51) [VPIP: 35.1% | PFR: 23% | AGG: 28.1% | Hands: 77]

Dealt to Hero: J 7

UTG Folds, HJ Folds, HERO Raises To $0.13, BTN Calls $0.13, SB Folds, BB Folds

Hero SPR on Flop: [14.76 effective]
Flop ($0.33): J 7 9
HERO Checks, BTN Bets $0.11 (Rem. Stack: $4.86), HERO Calls $0.11 (Rem. Stack: $4.76)

Turn ($0.55): J 7 9 T
HERO Checks, BTN Bets $0.40 (Rem. Stack: $4.46), HERO Calls $0.40 (Rem. Stack: $4.36)

River ($1.35): J 7 9 T 5
HERO Bets $1.48 (Rem. Stack: $2.88), BTN Folds

Spoiler:

HERO wins: $1.29



Last edited by DooDooPoker; 04-21-2024 at 10:21 AM.
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04-21-2024 , 10:28 AM
Nice pic brother and great to see another thread here.
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04-21-2024 , 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by DooDooPoker
I am going to be starting with $25 in my Ignition Account and try to spin it up to $25,000.

I will start at 5nl since it is the lowest stake on the site and be playing Ignition Reg tables only.

I will be updating every 5k hands with my progress.

My expectation for each limit is as follows:

Expected Winrates for each limit:

5NL: 30bb/100

10NL: 25bb/100

25NL: 20bb/100

50NL: 15bb/100

100NL: 12bb/100

200NL: 10bb/100

Variance will be a decent factor in a lot of these winrates but these are just ball park numbers. Once I hit 25k I will take a 10buyin shot at 500nl! As far as moving up I'll move up whenever I feel like it, but probably after winning 30-40 buyins at the limit.

There will be no cherry picking here since you can't cherry pick a Bankroll Challenge. Wish me luck (or not) and follow along in this thread.
That's a real challenge mate.
I wish you al the luck.
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04-21-2024 , 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by wereallgonnamakeit
Respectfully, this seems like a collossal waste of time especially for someone who is good at poker. Can I ask why you chose to start at $25?
If I'm a microstakes player looking for a coach, I'd rather be coached by someone who yes, is knowledgeable and beats higher, but also knows how the games I'm into really play, because he was there and crushed it. So, I have nothing but respect for what OP is doing, don't remember a lot of other coaches doing it (Kiranov the italian redline guy comes to mind). Now let's hope Doodoo actually succeeds in this
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04-21-2024 , 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by DooDooPoker
It's a colossal waste of time if you treat poker like a job and only care about your hourly. But I don't think that is the best way to approach it.

Poker players look down on microstakes/small stakes all the time. I used to be friends with a guy who whenever we would go play live would never play 1/2 because of the perception that he would think it made him look like a bad player (even though he was terrible).

If you go play live and you play 1/2. The 2/5 players will look down on you. Likewise with the 5/10 players to the 2/5 players. It's all nonsense.

Just because you play a certain stake doesn't make you good. How you think about the game makes you good.

[/spoil]
Sure, but it's undeniable that the higher stakes you play, the tougher the competition is. IMO whether you beat 5nl for 10bb or 15bb or 20bb, the result is just noise.

The money is also a factor of course, it's giving up a lot of EV.
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04-22-2024 , 12:13 AM
Do you mind posting your routine or volume goals ... how much time you generally plan to put in?
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04-22-2024 , 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by nonsimplesimon
Do you mind posting your routine or volume goals ... how much time you generally plan to put in?
I study more than I play but I plan to put in 2-3 hours of playing time a day. Goal is 5k hands a week.

Important theory point with HH.

Hand History driven straight to this forum with DriveHUD 2 Poker HUD and Database Software

NL Holdem 0.05(BB)
HERO ($15.19) [VPIP: 29.1% | PFR: 24.2% | AGG: 36.7% | Flop Agg: 41.5% | Turn Agg: 33.9% | River Agg: 37.4% | 3Bet: 11.5% | Fold to 3Bet: 60.2% | 4Bet: 14% | Hands: 332533]
SB ($4.95) [VPIP: 23.3% | PFR: 13.3% | AGG: 9.1% | Hands: 30]
BB ($10.30) [VPIP: 20.6% | PFR: 11.8% | AGG: 0% | Hands: 34]
HJ ($4.95) [VPIP: 0% | PFR: 0% | AGG: 0% | Hands: 3]
CO ($8.21) [VPIP: 17.6% | PFR: 8.8% | AGG: 11.1% | Flop Agg: 0% | Turn Agg: 50% | River Agg: 0% | 3Bet: 0% | 4Bet: 0% | Hands: 34]

Dealt to Hero: 8 7

HJ Folds, CO Raises To $0.15, HERO Raises To $0.45, SB Folds, BB Folds, CO Calls $0.30

Hero SPR on Flop: [8 effective]
Flop ($0.97): 6 3 K
CO Checks, HERO Bets $0.31 (Rem. Stack: $14.43), CO Calls $0.31 (Rem. Stack: $7.45)

Turn ($1.59): 6 3 K 9
CO Checks, HERO ?

In a solver you never bet your open ended straight draws OTT here as a default. We want our opponents to have 88/77/55/44 so we block their folding range with all OESD . As a result we should X back OTT.



Blocking folding ranges. All 88/77/55/44 becomes 0EV continues vs turn barrel.

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04-22-2024 , 11:29 AM
Smh my head what a fish. Everyone knows you barrel all your good draws, keep raising with combo draws, and XF most of your air

Spoiler:

GL!
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04-22-2024 , 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by TripleBerryJam
Smh my head what a fish. Everyone knows you barrel all your good draws, keep raising with combo draws, and XF most of your air

Spoiler:

GL!
Obviously we barrel turn we picked up equity! EASY BET!

lmao
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04-22-2024 , 02:17 PM
So instead of playing 200nl, maintaining the same winrate that you had over your 22k hand sample and shutting up all the haters, you do a silly br challenge?

I knew you were a bit of a simpleton, but even for you this is just hilarious.

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2. Post Bot/Collusion strategies that I am developing
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04-27-2024 , 01:17 PM
How come you're not playing Z?
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04-27-2024 , 01:36 PM
How are you doing at the challenge so far?
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04-29-2024 , 03:51 AM
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Originally Posted by nonsimplesimon
How come you're not playing Z?
For the super high winrates he's shooting for I don't think zone would be possible.
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