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Originally Posted by wereallgonnamakeit
i would agree if we are going to barrel the turn (w/77). Otherwise we just give him the turn and river very cheap when he has overcards. Even if he's a fish, the equities remain the same.
This topic is pretty complicated and I don't think I can definitively prove that cbetting smaller is better but I'll just say some things that I know to be true.
I have Fish as 3bp oop pfc xf 44% vs B50 but only xf 31% vs B30. They actually play closer to theory when you c-bet bigger (we don't want this).
Fish donk lead more than theory. So you want to keep ranges wide when you have a bluff catcher OTR which is why we want to cbet smaller with medium strength hands OTF (you could cbet bigger with strong value).
You also have to look at xc-x-b lines vs fish and compare them to theory. I have Fish bluffing 50% weak in xc30-x-b70 and theory is 30% weak as 3bp oop pfc.
You aren't incentivized to double barrel fish with merged hands because xc-xc-donk is the strongest donk line and fish donk much more than a solver.
That is MDA that I know to be true but I'm open to hearing why cbetting bigger OTF is better.
