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11-29-2021 , 03:12 PM
Lethiferous, you can stop wearing black. Ceres, you can stop weaving that burial shroud. Daddy's home.

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We do a little grinding, it's called we do a little grinding.


Thought I'd revive this thread as I've been playing a reasonable amount recently. I'm also fairly keen to study as I'll be playing a lot live next year, and I found logging study sessions in this thread quite motivating.

So, for the week:
- 14 hours of study (3.5h preflop, 7h meaty solver stuff, rest HH reviews/videos)
- 30 hours of play


All in the hopes of establishing myself at 100nl on Stars by Christmas, a mere 12 months later than the originally scheduled plan.
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12-06-2021 , 03:32 PM
Very good week results wise, slacked a bit on volume and didn't study as much as I should have though.

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So, for the week:
- 14 hours of study (3.5h preflop, 7h meaty solver stuff, rest HH reviews/videos)
- 30 hours of play
Probably managed 9 hours of study. Only about 2 hours preflop, a reasonable amount of solver stuff, and a lot of HH reviews. One hour/day has to be the absolute bare minimum but I really should be managing at least 2.

Hit 29 hours of play, not terrible but, again, should do better.



Played a reasonable amount of $50 and $100nl on Ignition too, with good results. I'll try and set up a tracker there this week, thread will be more fun if I can post all my volume. With rakeback/bonuses made over $1.5k total playing mainly 50nl which is slightly absurd.

Hands

You must bet-fold. I can't bet-fold. I'll bet-fold. (I don't bet-fold.)

Can't ever fold in theory, obviously. But what's the point in being white if you don't use that white magic?

PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $0.25/$0.50 - 4 players
Hand delivered by Upswing Poker

UTG: $67.09 (134 bb)
BU (Hero): $51.00 (102 bb)
SB: $81.31 (163 bb)
BB: $52.84 (106 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN with J J
1 fold, Hero raises to $1.25, 1 fold, BB 3-bets to $5.50, Hero calls $4.25

Flop: ($11.25) 4 9 7 (2 players)
BB bets $7.13, Hero calls $7.13

Turn: ($25.51) 7 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $8.25, BB raises to $40.21 (all-in), Hero calls $30.12 (all-in)

First River: ($102.25) 4 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Second River: ($102.25) 7 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $102.25 (Rake: $0.75)

First Showdown: Board: 4 9 7 7 4

BB shows K K (two pair, Kings and Sevens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 81%, Flop: 86%, Turn: 95%, River: 100%)

BU (Hero) shows J J (two pair, Jacks and Sevens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 19%, Flop: 14%, Turn: 5%, River: 0%)

BB wins $50.75

Second Showdown: Board: 4 9 7 7 7

BB shows K K (a full house, Sevens full of Kings)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 81%, Flop: 86%, Turn: 95%, River: 100%)

BU (Hero) shows J J (a full house, Sevens full of Jacks)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 19%, Flop: 14%, Turn: 5%, River: 0%)

BB wins $50.75

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Finally got one of these ****s through

PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $0.25/$0.50 - 6 players
Hand delivered by Upswing Poker

UTG: $50.00 (100 bb)
MP: $91.47 (183 bb)
CO: $57.94 (116 bb)
BU: $51.95 (104 bb)
SB: $9.92 (20 bb)
BB (Hero): $88.36 (177 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BB with J Q
UTG raises to $1.10, 4 players fold, Hero calls $0.60

Flop: ($2.45) Q 9 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $0.77, Hero calls $0.77

Turn: ($3.99) K (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $4.93, Hero calls $4.93

River: ($13.85) 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $9.87, Hero raises to $51, UTG folds

Total pot: $33.59 (Rake: $1.68)
BB (Hero) wins $31.91

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Meant to value jam the river apparently, but when u know u know

PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $0.25/$0.50 - 6 players
Hand delivered by Upswing Poker

UTG: $51.17 (102 bb)
MP: $87.29 (175 bb)
CO: $52.98 (106 bb)
BU: $33.66 (67 bb)
SB: $50.00 (100 bb)
BB (Hero): $136.02 (272 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BB with A A
2 players fold, CO raises to $1.25, 2 players fold, Hero 3-bets to $5, CO calls $3.75

Flop: ($10.25) T 8 T (2 players)
Hero bets $3.02, CO calls $3.02

Turn: ($16.29) K (2 players)
Hero bets $5.25, CO calls $5.25

River: ($26.79) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $39.71 (all-in), BB (Hero) folds

Total pot: $26.79 (Rake: $1.34)
CO wins $25.45
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12-21-2021 , 02:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BestToEverDoIt?
Lethiferous, you can stop wearing black. Ceres, you can stop weaving that burial shroud. Daddy's home.
Papa? PAPA!!!



Hands
Hand 1 - JJ vs KK, BU vs BB
Quote:
Originally Posted by BestToEverDoIt?
You must bet-fold. I can't bet-fold. I'll bet-fold. (I don't bet-fold.)

Can't ever fold in theory, obviously. But what's the point in being white if you don't use that white magic?
Oooh, you want to bet-fold even with double fd?!
Q1.1: Do you think villain takes this line with fds?
Q1.2: Do you think bet-fold is best even if villain takes this line with fds?

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Hand 2 - QJo, BB vs EP
Quote:
Originally Posted by BestToEverDoIt?
Finally got one of these ****s through
Q2.1: Rather call Q8 or J9 OTT?
Q2.2: Consider folding Q8, J9, and even QJ OTT?
Q2.3: I think Jh might be better than Qh here since villain more likely to OB OTT w/ JhXh than QhXh?

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Hand 3 - AA, BB vs CO
Quote:
Originally Posted by BestToEverDoIt?
Meant to value jam the river apparently, but when u know u know
Q3.1: Consider bet small OTR instead of check?
Q3.2: What do you think villain does with QQ, JJ, 99, and diamond draws?
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12-22-2021 , 05:51 AM
Great to see you're still around these parts, Leth. I hope everything's going well.

Hand 1

Bet-folding here is horrid. Obviously it's one of those spots where, relative to equilibrium, villain has shed bluffs at every decision point, but even so, folding would still be a significant mistake.

Q1.1: Do you think villain takes this line with fds? Very rarely at these stakes.
Q1.2: Do you think bet-fold is best even if villain takes this line with fds? No

Hand 2

Q2.1: Rather call Q8 or J9 OTT? J9 all day
Q2.2: Consider folding Q8, J9, and even QJ OTT? QJ>J9>Q8
Q2.3: I think Jh might be better than Qh here since villain more likely to OB OTT w/ JhXh than QhXh? More of a comment than a question here mate, but I'll play along. I think you're right.

Hand 3 - I really dislike how I played this one

Q3.1: Consider bet small OTR instead of check? Yeah I think block performs very well
Q3.2: What do you think villain does with QQ, JJ, 99, and diamond draws? Might bluffs 9s, probably bluffs diamond draws (although he has fewer than he should) doesn't bluff the two bigger pairs.
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12-22-2021 , 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by BestToEverDoIt?
Great to see you're still around these parts, Leth. I hope everything's going well.
Thanks mate. Not been playing a ton of poker but I'm very happy in the rest of life right now. Hope things are going well with you too.

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Originally Posted by BestToEverDoIt?
Hand 2
Q2.2: Consider folding Q8, J9, and even QJ OTT? QJ>J9>Q8
Agree with your ranking. Where do you think we should set the threshold? I'd strongly consider folding all three hands.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by BestToEverDoIt?
Hand 3
Q3.2: What do you think villain does with QQ, JJ, 99, and diamond draws? Might bluffs 9s, probably bluffs diamond draws (although he has fewer than he should) doesn't bluff the two bigger pairs.
I'd be sorely tempted to bluff w/ QQ and JJ also, especially with a spade. Feels like we aren't often winning here after x/x OTR.
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12-23-2021 , 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Lethiferous


Agree with your ranking. Where do you think we should set the threshold? I'd strongly consider folding all three hands.
I think folding JQ here is just too big a deviation from equilibrium. I know a point of difference between us is that I respect the 50nl regs slightly more than you do, and I don't think villian is going to be under-bluffing here to the extent that we can fold such a +EV continue.


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Originally Posted by Lethiferous


I'd be sorely tempted to bluff w/ QQ and JJ also, especially with a spade. Feels like we aren't often winning here after x/x OTR.
I don't respect them that much that I think they'd be turning QQ and JJ into a bluff here.

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So I have been playing these past few weeks, it's just been slightly bitty owing to technical issue after technical issue. Ignition was down, then Stars wasn't working, then I coulnd't get my HUD to work on either, then I could get my HUD to work but it was only tracking half the hands yada yada yada. Results were ok but not great, think I lost about 10bi total at 50nl and won around 8bi at 100nl. Running really well there, finally, although still not playing it as much as I should be.

Anyway, everything's back working now and I'm putting in pretty good volume, so expect an update - with graphs and everything - at the end of the week.
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12-24-2021 , 05:34 PM
For H1 - I just would never fold this hand in these positions, it's fairly high in our range (we can mainly 4b this as well) and people should be finding the bluffs plus he can literally jam worse/the same for value which makes this a snap call without thinking.

H3 - I don't get the turn sizing (maybe it's good in theory) but in my view this is just a great card for our range, double flush draw board we should just be sizing geometrically to shove the river, I don't think 1/3 is good. So yeah would bet 2e OTT and all in OTR

Nice results and glgl
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12-24-2021 , 06:21 PM
Nice results looks like you are going to make it in cash games from the hard work you put into it.
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12-25-2021 , 01:46 AM
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12-25-2021 , 03:51 PM
Sub'd.. GL
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12-27-2021 , 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by trytodoitagain
Nice results looks like you are going to make it in cash games from the hard work you put into it.
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Originally Posted by Kendoo
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Originally Posted by Claret~N~Blue
Sub'd.. GL
Thanks lads.

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Originally Posted by 2021shipit
For H1 - I just would never fold this hand in these positions, it's fairly high in our range (we can mainly 4b this as well) and people should be finding the bluffs plus he can literally jam worse/the same for value which makes this a snap call without thinking.

H3 - I don't get the turn sizing (maybe it's good in theory) but in my view this is just a great card for our range, double flush draw board we should just be sizing geometrically to shove the river, I don't think 1/3 is good. So yeah would bet 2e OTT and all in OTR

Nice results and glgl
Yup, never ever a fold. And v the better regs I do mainly 4b in these positions, although I think that might be a small mistake v pop.

I have two sizings ott in most 3bet pots OOP, block and geometric, and I do think the block performs well in general. If I remember the sim I ran then the solver does actually block a lot here, building the range around JJ/QQ and maybe the strongest 10s. At my level trying to incorporate multiple sizings is a mug's game in general though, and I doubt whether including the block sizing here increases EV by more than a negligible amount.

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Reasonable week, I'm getting carried a bit by my 100nl results at the moment, and am actually on a fairly nasty 50nl downer/breakeven stretch. My play has been meh, not aggressive enough in general and with periods of tilt.


Missing a few thousand breakeven hands

Hands

Looks punty and is. Technically solver approved but villain needs to have a lot of AT here which he just doesn't.

PokerStars - $0.50 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

SB: 100 BB
BB: 271.14 BB
UTG: 102.72 BB
MP: 212.74 BB
CO: 99.96 BB
Hero (BTN): 103.5 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Tc Jd
fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.5 BB, fold, BB calls 1.5 BB

Flop : (5.5 BB, 2 players) 7c 2h 4d
BB checks, Hero bets 1.62 BB, BB calls 1.62 BB

Turn : (8.74 BB, 2 players) Ts
BB checks, Hero bets 6.22 BB, BB raises to 21.78 BB, Hero calls 15.56 BB

River : (52.3 BB, 2 players) 6d
BB bets 16.4 BB, Hero raises to 77.6 BB and is all-in, BB calls 61.2 BB

Hero shows Tc Jd (One Pair, Tens)
(Pre 71%, Flop 14%, Turn 7%)

BB shows 7d Td (Two Pair, Tens and Sevens)
(Pre 29%, Flop 86%, Turn 93%)

BB wins 203.5 BB

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Probably the hand I'm most tilted about from the past week. Turn is a fold at equilibrium and a slam-dunk muck at these stakes. River is w/e but I should just shove.

PokerStars - $0.50 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

BB: 187.6 BB
Hero (UTG): 100 BB
CO: 137.72 BB
BTN: 71.98 BB
SB: 101.14 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Jh As
Hero raises to 2.5 BB, fold, fold, fold, BB calls 1.5 BB

Flop : (5.5 BB, 2 players) 9s Th 7s
BB checks, Hero bets 1.46 BB, BB calls 1.46 BB

Turn : (8.42 BB, 2 players) Qh
BB checks, Hero bets 6 BB, BB raises to 26 BB, Hero calls 20 BB

River : (60.42 BB, 2 players) Ts
BB checks, Hero bets 45 BB, BB calls 45 BB

Hero shows Jh As (One Pair, Tens)
(Pre 75%, Flop 68%, Turn 7%)

BB shows Js Kh (Straight, King High)
(Pre 25%, Flop 32%, Turn 93%)

BB wins 146.42 BB


Ok, for the week:

14k hands
10 hours study
No tilt sessions (I'll write a bit about this next week)
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12-27-2021 , 04:48 PM
My advice take with a grain of salt cause I am just at 10nl right now. Stacking off with top pair is going to happen. I don't really pay to much attention to those spots. Sometimes they have a big hand and sometimes I see complete air balls. The next hand you just ran into a big hand. You block a straight. You can have Tx. You have over pairs since you raised utg and he doesn't have it. He just happen to have it this time. But any pair is folding unless he is bad. I think we are printing money here most of the time against a regular that understands basic ranges from ep raise. But again I don't know what solvers do here. I might be completely wrong. I would probably take the same line as you did and lose my money. I like how you play. You could be the best to ever do it. GL

Last edited by trytodoitagain; 12-27-2021 at 05:00 PM.
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12-31-2021 , 10:59 AM
Wtf? This thread had better not overtake my thread
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01-03-2022 , 09:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by trytodoitagain
My advice take with a grain of salt cause I am just at 10nl right now. Stacking off with top pair is going to happen. I don't really pay to much attention to those spots. Sometimes they have a big hand and sometimes I see complete air balls. The next hand you just ran into a big hand. You block a straight. You can have Tx. You have over pairs since you raised utg and he doesn't have it. He just happen to have it this time. But any pair is folding unless he is bad. I think we are printing money here most of the time against a regular that understands basic ranges from ep raise. But again I don't know what solvers do here. I might be completely wrong. I would probably take the same line as you did and lose my money. I like how you play. You could be the best to ever do it. GL
Thanks for the kind words. Bolded is a good way to be, something I'm working on.

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Originally Posted by Ceres
Wtf? This thread had better not overtake my thread
Ceres!.... Mate. Good to see you!

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Week finished with a whimper unfortunately as commitments bloody commitments meant I couldn't play much poker.



Month actually looks good, no graph unfortunately but with rakeback I think I made slightly over 3k in EV.

Hands aka Coward's Corner
Hello, do you think overbet bluffing is somehow impolite? Do you “roll low” before every potential three barrel bluff, squealing “it’s a mix, it’s a mix”? Have you never met an IP check-back you didn’t like? Well, come on in, make yourself at home – for you ARE home – here at Coward’s Corner.

Checking river here is a Poker Crime, if there were any justice in the world I'd be put before a Poker Firing Squad and my family sent to the Poker Gulag.

PokerStars - $0.50 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

SB: 100 BB
Hero (BB): 102.72 BB
UTG: 101.5 BB
MP: 79.02 BB
CO: 205.74 BB
BTN: 150.24 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Ac 4c
UTG raises to 2.24 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 1.24 BB

Flop : (4.98 BB, 2 players) 2c 9h 5d
Hero checks, UTG bets 1.56 BB, Hero calls 1.56 BB

Turn : (8.1 BB, 2 players) 6s
Hero checks, UTG checks

River : (8.1 BB, 2 players) Th
Hero checks, UTG checks

Hero shows Ac 4c (High Card, Ace)
(Pre 33%, Flop 32%, Turn 16%)

UTG shows Jd As (High Card, Ace)
(Pre 67%, Flop 68%, Turn 84%)

UTG wins 7.7 BB

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"It's a mix, it's a mix!"

Ignition - $1 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

BB: 91.76 BB
UTG: 170.05 BB
CO: 112.72 BB
BTN: 101 BB
Hero (SB): 103.23 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) CO has 9s Js
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Ac Tc
fold, CO raises to 2.5 BB, fold, Hero raises to 10 BB, fold, CO calls 7.5 BB

Flop : (21 BB, 2 players) Qh 3c Jc
Hero bets 8 BB, CO calls 8 BB

Turn : (37 BB, 2 players) 8s
Hero bets 28.36 BB, CO calls 28.36 BB

River : (93.72 BB, 2 players) 2h
Hero checks, CO checks

Hero shows Ac Tc (High Card, Ace)
(Pre 60%, Flop 55%, Turn 39%)

CO shows 9s Js (One Pair, Jacks)
(Pre 40%, Flop 45%, Turn 61%)

CO wins 90.72 BB

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Why bluff when you can check and win 0.00000001% of the time?

PokerStars - $0.50 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

UTG: 100 BB
CO: 26.9 BB
BTN: 100 BB
SB: 105.92 BB
Hero (BB): 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Jh Td
fold, fold, fold, SB raises to 3 BB, Hero calls 2 BB

Flop : (6 BB, 2 players) Ah 4h Ts
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn : (6 BB, 2 players) 3s
SB bets 4.28 BB, Hero calls 4.28 BB

River : (14.56 BB, 2 players) Kh
SB checks, Hero checks

SB shows Ad 9c (One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 56%, Flop 76%, Turn 89%)

Hero mucks Jh Td (One Pair, Tens)
(Pre 44%, Flop 24%, Turn 11%)

SB wins 13.84 BB
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01-04-2022 , 11:18 PM
In that last hand it looks like SB should've been distinctively uncoward-like on that river and missed the thin value spot



The lily livered invertebrate.
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01-17-2022 , 08:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ceres
In that last hand it looks like SB should've been distinctively uncoward-like on that river and missed the thin value spot



The lily livered invertebrate.
'Lily Livered Lounge' the more upscale version of 'Pussyole's Parlour.' Lots to think about.

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Couldn't play the first two weeks of the year, so last week's graph (below) represents my YTD. Playing well in stretches but sill tilting a bit and not always applying the right amount of aggression. Lots of study, mainly just hand reviews, I'm getting pretty good at not making too many big EV mistakes, but my frequencies are still just all slightly unbalanced towards the more passive options. Such is life. Got a fairly clear 30 days or so before I'll have to put poker on the back burner.



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River is actually my biggest EV punt of the year so far, or at least the biggest one I've caught. Can't even raise it IIRC.

PokerStars - $0.50 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 111.34 BB
SB: 219.44 BB
Hero (BB): 100 BB
UTG: 100 BB
MP: 99.5 BB
CO: 143.82 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T T

fold, fold, CO raises to 2.5 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 1.5 BB

Flop: (5.5 BB, 2 players) A 3 T
Hero checks, CO bets 2.88 BB, Hero calls 2.88 BB

Turn: (11.26 BB, 2 players) J
Hero checks, CO bets 8 BB, Hero calls 8 BB

River: (27.26 BB, 2 players) A
Hero checks, CO bets 15 BB, Hero raises to 84.88 BB, fold

Hero wins 54.4 BB

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Played this one correctly

PokerStars - $0.50 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: 113.32 BB
CO: 223.98 BB
BTN: 301.76 BB
SB: 111.2 BB
Hero (BB): 111.98 BB
UTG: 610.36 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J K

fold, MP raises to 2.26 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 1.26 BB

Flop: (5.02 BB, 2 players) 3 J 9
Hero checks, MP bets 3 BB, Hero calls 3 BB

Turn: (11.02 BB, 2 players) Q
Hero checks, MP bets 7.84 BB, Hero raises to 25 BB, MP calls 17.16 BB

River: (61.02 BB, 2 players) 5
Hero checks, MP bets 29 BB, fold

MP wins 57.96 BB

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Just about ok. Solver doesn't really like having the 9 here as it blocks his bet-folds, which is something I missed in game. Still acceptable a small amount of the time though.

Ignition - $1 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

CO: 82.38 BB
BTN: 189.6 BB
Hero (SB): 100.13 BB
BB: 141.31 BB
UTG: 201.79 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 9h 7h
fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BB calls 2 BB

Flop : (6 BB, 2 players) 2c 4d 5h
Hero bets 1.6 BB, BB calls 1.6 BB

Turn : (9.2 BB, 2 players) 8c
Hero checks, BB bets 6.66 BB, Hero raises to 18 BB, BB calls 11.34 BB

River : (45.2 BB, 2 players) Th
Hero bets 77.53 BB and is all-in, fold

Hero wins 42.94 BB

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For the week:
16k hands
Review all hands
3 hours playing v solver
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01-18-2022 , 02:21 PM
With that first TT hand, is the purpose of checking precisely to have something evil to x/r on the river?

My instinct is to charge FDs + 2p on the turn, but I imagine that's wrong. Presumably we can expect CO to bet the **** out of this river, so we'll reap all that overbluff $$$, plus he has to call a lot, so I think I understand river ap. I need to add more nuance to my value lines.
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01-18-2022 , 08:10 PM
In game I actually read the hand correctly until the river. Flop is obviously a v high frequency check/raise - I think exploitatively I probably should have just gone pure, but I rolled very low - and then turn is only a low frequency check raise. Main reason, I think, is just that he has a billion combos of the nut straight and so our raising range is constructed around the nut-straight and draws with blockers. Also with our tens we're blocking his 2 pair continues. This passivity with non-nuts strong hands is actually a pretty common theme with solvers in spots where one or both players can have 16 combos of the nut straight. It's sick but if we check/raise turn we actually have to fold to a jam, which is pretty disastrous. No, better to lay low in the weeds, bide our time, and make a 20bb+ mistake river raise instead.
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01-18-2022 , 11:21 PM
I see, thanks.

All those coolers must mount up and zap our EV. I haven't quite got used to how much weight solvers give to nut combos, like they're bloody special or something
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01-24-2022 , 04:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Ceres
I see, thanks.

All those coolers must mount up and zap our EV. I haven't quite got used to how much weight solvers give to nut combos, like they're bloody special or something
Solver can be quite the Anxious Agnes in places. Often in spots where you get the Fear, the solver's thinking the same thing.

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Nice week, played really well at the start but got a bit lazy towards the end. Need to try and maintain focus and keep the aggression up always. Getting better though.

Ignition was either down or being a bastard for much of the week so I had to mainly play on Stars, mixing between 50nl Zoom and 100nl statics. I'd like to move all my action on Stars to 100nl, but I play at pretty dead hours and getting even a couple of tables there can be quite the faff.


Plus $200 untracked and $75 in rakeback

No hands, I played perfectly this week so no mistakes to learn from.

For the week:
15k hands
Complete Stars rakeback challenge
10 hours study

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Inspired by this series, I spent a reasonable amount of time this week learning to card count. I spend a lot of time in casinos and look like a gormless ****ing idiot so I figured it might be a skill worth learning. The guy is very annoying in the classic YouTubery way, but the content is good and a lot of the concepts map with poker quite nicely.

Last edited by BestToEverDoIt?; 01-24-2022 at 04:24 AM.
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01-31-2022 , 03:10 AM
Don't know what to think about the week. At the start I was focussed and not tilted at all but just playing horribly. I'd review dozens of hands a day and just be told over and over by the solver that I'm a moron - "I hear there's good money in backgammon," it would say after reporting another 5bb mistake. I really don't understand what was happening. I review a lot of hands, and usually significant mistakes are actually pretty rare, but Mon/Tue/Wed it was just raining blunders. Then later in the week I broke my mouse (see hand 1) with a flamboyant over the shoulder throw onto a paving stone and, grappling with the trackpad, got rewarded with a weekend boomswitch.

Almost all $100 with a smidge of $200. $200 games weren't good but provided I don't donk off too much during the week I'll probably have another crack next weekend.

Graph - Missing about 1k hands and $220 profit. Also cleared about $400 in RB.


Hands I'm too ashamed to post everything, but here's a taste

Hand 1

PokerStars - $1 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 175.21 BB
BB: 128.08 BB
Hero (UTG): 110.23 BB
MP: 98.5 BB
CO: 101.5 BB
BTN: 107.64 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q T

Hero raises to 2.5 BB, MP calls 2.5 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold

Flop: (6.5 BB, 2 players) A J T
Hero checks, MP bets 4.5 BB, Hero calls 4.5 BB

Turn: (15.5 BB, 2 players) 8
Hero checks, MP bets 16 BB, Hero raises to 103.23 BB and is all-in, MP calls 75.5 BB and is all-in

River: (198.5 BB, 2 players) 6

Hero shows Q T (One Pair, Tens)
(Pre 29%, Flop 13%, Turn 3%)
MP shows Q K (Straight, Ace High)
(Pre 71%, Flop 87%, Turn 97%)
MP wins 196 BB

If I'm posting this, just imagine the state of the specimens I'm too embarrassed to share.

Villain's a fish, hero's a fish, everyone's a ****ing fish - although, in hero's defence, his line makes a bit of sense if you are, like he was, absolutely certain villain wouldn't take this line with his nutted hands.

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Hand 2


Ignition - $1 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: 112.81 BB
CO: 59.86 BB
BTN: 101.5 BB
SB: 123.61 BB
Hero (BB): 115.41 BB
UTG: 228.02 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 4 A

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) UTG has 7 7

UTG raises to 2.5 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 1.5 BB

Flop: (5.5 BB, 2 players) T 3 9
Hero checks, UTG bets 3.92 BB, Hero calls 3.92 BB

Turn: (13.34 BB, 2 players) 7
Hero checks, UTG bets 8.88 BB, Hero calls 8.88 BB

River: (31.1 BB, 2 players) 5
Hero checks, UTG bets 20.68 BB, Hero raises to 100.11 BB and is all-in, UTG calls 79.43 BB

Hero shows 4 A (High Card, Ace)
(Pre 34%, Flop 44%, Turn 16%)
UTG shows 7 7 (Three of a Kind, Sevens)
(Pre 66%, Flop 56%, Turn 84%)
UTG wins 227.32 BB



We just don't need that many bluffs here and we have much, much better candidates to choose from. Both GTOwiz and the solution I ran donk turn with my combo almost pure. If we omit donks - the strategy I actually play - then my shove becomes even worse.

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Hand 3


PokerStars - $1 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 100.88 BB
BTN: 135.51 BB
SB: 467.99 BB
BB: 223.12 BB
UTG: 189.08 BB
Hero (MP): 101 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A Q

fold, Hero raises to 2.5 BB, CO calls 2.5 BB, fold, fold, BB calls 1.5 BB

Flop: (8 BB, 3 players) 3 3 2
BB checks, Hero bets 3 BB, CO calls 3 BB, fold

Turn: (14 BB, 2 players) 3
Hero bets 19 BB, CO calls 19 BB

River: (52 BB, 2 players) J
Hero bets 76.5 BB and is all-in, CO calls 76.38 BB and is all-in

Hero shows A Q (Three of a Kind, Threes)
(Pre 43%, Flop 26%, Turn 16%)
CO shows T T (Full House, Threes full of Tens)
(Pre 57%, Flop 74%, Turn 84%)
CO wins 202.26 BB

I can't run it but I'm actually ok with this. BB was a pretty big fish and even though I could just check range OTF I think betting in these spots performs fairly well. Be surprised if it wasn't fine to bomb turn and river, although I think I'm probably overdoing it.

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Hand 4

Biggest loser of the year so far, looks standard, wp by villain too I think

Ignition - $1 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 355.68 BB
Hero (BTN): 145.85 BB
SB: 92.31 BB
BB: 174.05 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A Q

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) BB has A A

fold, Hero raises to 2.5 BB, SB calls 2 BB, BB raises to 13 BB, Hero calls 10.5 BB, fold

Flop: (28.5 BB, 2 players) 4 5 5
BB bets 10.83 BB, Hero calls 10.83 BB

Turn: (50.16 BB, 2 players) Q
BB bets 19.06 BB, Hero calls 19.06 BB

River: (88.28 BB, 2 players) A
BB checks, Hero bets 102.96 BB and is all-in, BB calls 102.96 BB

Hero shows A Q (Two Pair, Aces and Queens)
(Pre 13%, Flop 34%, Turn 25%)
BB shows A A (Full House, Aces full of Fives)
(Pre 87%, Flop 66%, Turn 75%)
BB wins 291.2 BB

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Shoot for another 15k hands this week but it might be tricky. I'll try and play at least 1000 hands of 200nl too, moving up always provides good motivation to study.

GL!
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01-31-2022 , 06:07 AM
Good stuff!

Hand 3: You mentioned this guy is huge fish. If that's correct read, he is not really calling your T bet other than pocket pairs. At river he just looks at his screen and hand value says: "full house". He clicks a call to your shove. Honestly, if he is huge fish by the standards I define them, he is almost never folding better hand at river. But of course, NL100 huge fish might not be as bad as huge fish in my pool

EDIT: you didn't mention CO is fish so most likely fine then!
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02-01-2022 , 03:34 AM
:( only ever seen a Zeebo eclip$e on twitch

Quote:
Originally Posted by BestToEverDoIt?
Then later in the week I broke my mouse (see hand 1) with a flamboyant over the shoulder throw onto a paving stone and, grappling with the trackpad, got rewarded with a weekend boomswitch.
Looks like Best2's discovered his own personal escalating violence luckometer. Very rare!

They don't teach this in The Mental Game of Poker by Jarod Tendler.
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08-10-2023 , 07:50 PM
Going to be trying to put in reasonable volume online until at least the end of the year so thought I'd revive this thread.

I didn't play much online last year after my last update. This year, however, I put in reasonable volume in February and March at 100 and 200, and took some small shots at 500 on Ignition. Started playing again last week, just $100nl for now as I shake off the rust.

Year to date

Whilst my redline gently weeps loudly wails

Graph is missing most of my Ignition volume, unfortunately. I'm up roughly $5000 for the year there, running a decent amount above EV.

Like I said in OP I'm primarily a live player, so these goals are subject to change, but presuming I can devote a reasonable amount of time to online I'd like to achieve the following aims.

Goals for the end of the year:
- Be shotting $1knl
- Study 90 minutes/day on average

I think at my current level I'm a strong $100nl reg and a mediocre $200nl one. I'm pretty diligent with study though so I hope to improve quickly. Reaching $1k may seem ambitious but I generally take a pretty laissez-faire attitude with my online bankrolls. If I feel like I'm good enough to bumhunt it in a few months, I will.
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08-14-2023 , 10:15 AM
Very happy to see this reboot.

Shoot for the mf moon indeed sir. Destroy it. Pulverise the moon.
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