Thank you very much for inputs. I did my homework. XR turn would be better play, especially with QhQ combo, anyway, my line is not completely nonsense for this combo (but it just coincidence, it is marginal play so I should X/r there). The flop we should bet almost all the time, so it was misplayed.. I am surprised we should check so much here actually..

About the flop.. I think solver solutions usually construct x/r range so that there are some pure value hands (like 66, QQ, 99, some KK AhA, Q9) and then some hands that have small showdown value or no sd, blocks villain outs for later streets and have potential to improve a lot (AhQh,87s (especially 8h7h and 8s7s), K6s, QhJh, JTs...). However, in this case the QQ bet is prefered a lot compared to 66 and 99.
The hands with small showdown value (like K6 are good to use as it does not stand horrible against villains draws and block hands like KQ, also block his K as out for improving KJs, AKs, etc.. still we can snapfold them vs jam without regret). The key are the frequencies.

The turn is same story with dropping a lot of bluffs, but the idea is still the same.

Hey man! Just read through some of your posts. I don't think you need solvers at 10nl, it seems like you are trying to play too mechanical and looking at cooler spots too much! I'm doing a challenge to make $1000 at 10nlz in a month, have beaten 50nl lifetime for like 4bb/100 I think so am hoping to take apart 10nl :P Check out my journey and watch my stream if you like, see a different kinda way to play (I've NEVER used a solver and play 100% exploitative)

GL with your challenge.



This hand is vs villain who resteal 26%, cbet flop/turn in 3bet pot 73/75
My plan was to call him pre and let him barrel off instead of std 4bet.. Is it good plan?

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 156.8 BB
SB: 101.5 BB
BB: 100 BB
UTG: 208.2 BB
MP: 47.9 BB
Hero (CO): 222.7 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K A

fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.5 BB, fold, SB raises to 9.1 BB, fold, Hero calls 6.6 BB

Flop: (19.2 BB, 2 players) 3 K 5
SB bets 9.2 BB, Hero calls 9.2 BB

Turn: (37.6 BB, 2 players) 3
SB bets 28.4 BB, Hero calls 28.4 BB

River: (94.4 BB, 2 players) 2
SB bets 54.8 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 54.8 BB

SB shows 5 5 (Full House, Fives full of Threes)
(Pre 55%, Flop 97%, Turn 95%)
Hero shows K A (Two Pair, Kings and Threes)
(Pre 45%, Flop 3%, Turn 5%)
SB wins 194.8 BB

Thanks for the luck, best of luck to you on grinding up!

I think calling this down is borderline at best honestly. I'd just stack pre, if we 4b call we are making money, if we 4b shove we are making money. Where is villain most likely to make a mistake? If we shove and he has TT and calls then he makes a huge mistake v a potential 4b shoving range of AK, 20% AA 20% KK 30% QQ.

Post, like, I don't see any players triple barrel bluffing in this spot at 10nl. If he has a missed flush he gives up OTR and the paired turn stops random bluffs a bunch. Most regs and fish will bet once here and give up, so OTR we are realistically calling down v AA KK AK KQ and apparently 55. He can also have A4s/A3s. at 25nl+ nice hand its fine, at 10nl you can exploitative fold OTR IMO but play it more aggro earlier in the hand.

Thank you very much for your post. I agree that in general people do not 3barrel bluff. I thought that due to his high cbet stats in 3bet pot it would be good strategy to call him down here. Going for 4bet next time, lesson taken.

btw You had nice stacks today hope your challenge is going well. Going to check your stream. See you at the tables!

Any time . I would imagine most peoples cbet stats in 3bps are high, at 10nl I think most people feel obliged to cbet as much as possible just because they 3b
I'd look a lot less at stats though, you will inevitably over adjust if you look much past VPIP/PFR/3b/CBET stats

And yeah, ran a couple up, could have been a bigger day but hit a nasty spot that took my down around 4 buy ins haha. I'll post before streaming next time

When reviewing hands you should look at winning hands too. Not only the 1 standard hand / session that we all get coolered on. Mark hands where you couldve missed value, a bluff etc. Its not the standard coolers that determine a long-term winrate.

vrbik do you want to post your stats lifetime from 10z? Or since start of this thread?

By position:
EVbb/100
VPIP
PFR
3BET
UO PFR%
FOLD vs 3B%
COLD CALL%

Overall:
WTSD%
W$SD%
Won $ when saw flop%
FLOP CBET IP
FLOP CBET OOP
FOLD to flop CBET
TURN CBET
RIVER CBET
AGG Factor
AGG%
FLOP x/r
Turn bet vs missed cb%
River call efficiency

Might be good to post these for people to comment on. A nice little stat leakbust

Thank you for your tip, your advices already helped me a lot. I am going thru much more hands every day. Checking opportunity for cbets, fold to cbets, cold call pre, probe bets, etc. Also what I started to do is that I go thru all hands where I saw the SD.. Just not posting those hands here.. going to give it a try and post multiple hands here.

Ok, I will post them when I get home from work

Stats.. What is surpsising me is that since a new year I won only 15.83% hands, compared to 17% for previous year. My cbet river stat imho sucks.

You are very tight based on your VPIP/PFR. This doesn´t have to be a problem at NL10. Plenty of guys with this VPIP/PFR crush these stakes. It is something which you need to consider when you move up.

You are way too tight with your 3bets preflop. Having 5.5% is extremely low. Around 9-10% is considered standard nowadays in 6max. This is actually a huge leak imo. Try to 3bet way more, especially in position. I would also advise you to play just a 3bet or fold strategy from all positions apart from BTN and BB. Would just make exception when players behind you are fish/whale.

Combined with your VPIP/PFR your WWSF is too low. With this VPIP/PFR I think your WWSF should at least be 48. You are very likely not aggro enough postflop. Try to pick up more small pots before showdown, value bet thinner, etc. However, low WWSF can have many reasons. It is something I struggled myself in the past too.

Your Fold to F Cbet is the highest I have seen in a long time. Not sure what sizing the player pool uses at NL10, but I assume 1/3p is very common at NL10 and I think you are defo overfolding flop.

3bet steal is low, but I expected it to be lower. This tells me that probably most of your 3bets come from beeing OOP (SB/BB). As previously said try to 3bet more, especially when beeing IP.

Your EP/SB winrates are very low. A good SB winrate is considered around -15BB/100. Would defo suggest to play a 3bet/fold strategy from SB. Not sure if you are doing this.

Hope it helps a bit. GL!

Interested to see the replies to this

I think that helps alot Kockar. Nice one.

More important stats:
-3bet by position
-unopened PFR by position

I'll point out some of the same things and more:

You seem to be positionally aware with your Cbets, which is good. I still cbet too much OOP.

1. 3bet% way too low.
2. You win too often when you call the river.
3. VPIP/PFR probably too low.
4. You barrel alot OTT but give up lots of rivers.
5. Folding too much OTF (yes Kockar 1/3 pot is quite common even at 10nl)
6. WR in blinds & EP

Potential fixes:
1. Just use snowieranges or something similar preflop. Don't start to 3bet more blindly
2. I had this leak too. Especially in pots where flop or turn gets checked through, think about where you are in your range and call linearly according to MDF. If villain bets 2/3 OTR you need to call ~60% of your range. Often times your third pair makes the cut. Take a look at handcharts in riverspots.
3. Look at fix "1."
4. Don't bluff obvious fish. But do fire the third barrel vs regs when you have good blockers/unblockers. There might be other leaks that cause this, like bad hand selection when cbeting flop.
5. Also here think about fix "2.". Look in hand charts and see what kinds of hands make the cut to be a defend. OOP you don't have to defend as wide as MDF suggests, just because of the many disadvantages of playing OOP.
6. This is a complex topic. Kockar pointed out one thing. Probably need more positional stats


These are probably the most obvious ones. Don't follow my fixes religiously, they are just potential fixes. But I'm sure they help a little atleast.

Gl man

I messaged OP to help him out FYI.

Moreover, the reason I put it is to see what kind of advise people give, if they just give obvious one dimensional fixes.


Spoiler: They did.

Goodluck sir!

That's nice of you to help out and letting us know you did. I don't understand your point though or why this information is relevant.

What did you expect then?

Lol, the tonne of all your posts are so obnoxious and sour man. Why did you pull out a comment I made which was completely innocent and insult? Be a little more tolerant dude.

My point is your suggestions are not helpful past improving what someones stats look like which is the opposite way to get better.

This was actually helpful, wasn't really looking at this my bad!!!! <3

I'm sorry if you feel that way about my posts. I interpreted your post as rude and responded that way to you, sorry about that.

Some of us don't have the time to write out a poem or short story though. Sometimes one dimensional advice sparks something deeper.

All good <3 I don't like arguing in forums haha

We also have to remember that things that are obvious to you, me or someone else probably aren't obvious to OP. It's not easy to figure out yourself that you fold too much. MDF is a good start on OP's flop play (and probably river). And snowiecharts or similar help A LOT to fix preflop.

I don't think that going down the route of using Snowie's ranges or looking at MDF is going to be helpful at all. It teaches you to try and not be exploitable, but in doing so stops you from looking at how to exploit. You make the most amount of money in poker when you exploit villains mistakes to the max. Training to play just to hit MDF frequencies (which BTW are not applicable OTF given implied odds) and play "solid ranges" is counter intuitive because although there may be a small improvement, he won't develop his edge or learn how to make villain make dumb plays.

Honestly, at 50nl and below you don't need any GTO software and using it at a simple level like this will make you a worse player. It would be far far farrrr better to just plug in villains likely range, put up a bunch of board textures and see how they will likely play, then recognize good spots to over bluff. Then try to find quirky plays that the 10nl regs will play awfully against and finally value town the fish. None of that requires Poker Snowie.

I agree to some extent. Don't get me wrong.

Don't have time for a longer response right now but OP not winning at 10nl (correct me if I'm wrong OP, and sorry if this is not the case!) is not due to the fact that he isn't exploiting enough. The exploiting part is the one that should boost his winrate, not flip it around to profitable.

There are leaks that have nothing to do with exploitative poker afaik. And these should be fixed first IMO.

One thing I think is of huge importance though, when talking about exploitative poker, is folding enough in obvious spots at these stakes, where at equilibrium you would call every time.

I'm sure you are a beast at exploiting the pool (I'm serious). And that is a massive advantage, but I don't think that's the core problem here.

EDIT: What OP needs is a bootcamp with DooDooPoker, after that a coffee with StewieStag.