Fun day



Vs maniac, playing 48/36 29.8% 3bet, 0 f3b, saw a few showdowns where he shoved nonsense or very weak hands on the flop (or preflop). Was probably tilted, drunk, on drugs or all these options at the same time. A lot of deep stacks on the table obv So, fun table to play, and would keep there if not tired.

PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $0.02/$0.05 - 9 players
Hand delivered by Upswing Poker

UTG: $5.07 (101 bb)
UTG+1: $17.08 (342 bb)
MP: $6.25 (125 bb)
MP+1: $5.00 (100 bb)
LP: $6.33 (127 bb)
CO: $4.66 (93 bb)
BU: $3.73 (75 bb)
SB (Hero): $5.00 (100 bb)
BB: $5.35 (107 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.07) Hero is SB with A♣ J♠
UTG raises to $0.17, 6 players fold, Hero 3-bets to $0.60, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.43

Flop: ($1.25) 8♠ 9♦ T♣ (2 players)
Hero bets $0.40, UTG raises to $4.47 (all-in), Hero calls $4 (all-in)

Turn: ($10.05) 5♠ (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($10.05) 2♥ (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $10.05 (Rake: $0.42)

Showdown:
UTG shows A♠ 7♥ (high card, Ace)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 28%, Flop: 26%, Turn: 16%, River: 0%)

SB (Hero) shows A♣ J♠ (high card, Ace - higher kicker)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 72%, Flop: 74%, Turn: 84%, River: 100%)

SB (Hero) wins $9.63


Cheers

Btw, plugging some wide but still reasonable range for him, the call was actually close to 0 ev. Obv probably slightly above due to the nonsense holdings he might still have. The range I put on equilab was:

66+,AJs-A7s,K9s+,Q7s+,J7s+,T7s+,97s+,87s,AJo-A7o,KJo-K9o,Q9o+,J7o+,T7o+,97o+,87o

Btw, vs this particular player, I think betting smaller otf was a big mistake. Should have bet at least 2/3 pot imo.

This is a check on the flop 100% of the time in my opinion.

By betting 2/3 of the pot, what are you doing exactly? Bluffing? No better hand is going to fold.

This exact player was shoving every flop. My conservative and probably tighter range for him gives ~38% equity when he moves allin. If he’s unaware of sizing, and the fold equity remains the same, I’d get better pot odds after betting bigger.

About any other reasonable opponent, agreed about check 100%.

Cheers

This
X/j otf vs this guy, it's very unlikely that you will fold many better hands but this guy will spazz out with any 2 vs your x and possibly call you with worse, also it's good for you to see him fold KQ in there.

Btw, fold pre, AJo is too loose oop vs utg in a 9-max table

Vs a 48/36 player? In the SB with only one other player (aside from the maniac) left to act? I think folding is probably the worst option.

Vs that guy sure, go for it

Never 3b utg pot sized opening with AJo from the SB. Was specific to this player, as not only I had his stats, but I was watching all his spew at showdown. But I understand how borderline it was even in this spot. Agreed about postflop, thought about x/j line and makes way more sense.

Hate zoom, always being put in spots (boards and players like this villain). K high dry board is a flop cbet with AA in a 4b pot right? Not want to be results oriented, but the only hands I can see villain defending vs my 4b and calling flop and maybe x behind turn would be AA and KK (only one combo of each), and AK. He can´t have any bluffs here, and would never turn QQ or JJ into a bluff right?

Obv tilt called river, and lost

Oh, is there any way to block zoom from my lobby, so I don´t ever play it again? At least the pace of normal tables is slow and I don´t tilt and drop 3 stacks in 30 hands like that (unless running relly bad or at 10nl lol).

PokerStars Zoom, Hold'em No Limit - $0.02/$0.05 - 6 players
Hand delivered by Upswing Poker

UTG: $6.98 (140 bb)
MP (Hero): $5.00 (100 bb)
CO: $11.20 (224 bb)
BU: $5.00 (100 bb)
SB: $5.04 (101 bb)
BB: $5.00 (100 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.07) Hero is MP with A♥ A♣
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.12, 3 players fold, BB 3-bets to $0.35, Hero 4-bets to $1.15, BB calls $0.80

Flop: ($2.32) 7♠ 4♠ K♣ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.73, BB calls $0.73

Turn: ($3.78) K♦ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($3.78) T♣ (2 players)
BB bets $3.12 (all-in), Hero calls $3.12 (all-in)

Total pot: $10.02 (Rake: $0.42)

Showdown:
BB shows A♠ K♠ (three of a kind, Kings)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 12%, Flop: 43%, Turn: 98%, River: 100%)

MP (Hero) shows A♥ A♣ (two pair, Aces and Kings)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 88%, Flop: 57%, Turn: 2%, River: 0%)

BB wins $9.60

Looks fine to me. Can't really fold blocking so much AK and unblocking spades with this SPR on the river. Would deffo check how many tables he is playing in the lobby (the fewer the more happy I am about calling). Also he can still just have random nonsense. Going to be losing here sometimes for sure but given that he should just be shoving his AK pre in this configuration I prefer calling river I think.

(proba would fold versus a russian 4 tabler as they just always have the nuts whenever they bet big)

Actually, that video from twitch via Thebosspoker, shows him folding AA in this situation. If you had gone all in on flop, he still would have called. You can not tell if he is bluffing.

I do not know if it is spew, but realize AA gets cracked all the time. If check on river, or he slides it in before you, consider folding 50% of time. What else could he have?

This is where you learn the discipline. If you just got AA cracked, then take a break. AA does not always get cracked. The name of the book is The Grinders Manual, and you can download the free pdf. Otherwise, it is like $50. Its around 600 pages, and worth the read.

Just doesn´t make sense for him to bet anything here but quads, TT and AK, even though we have 2 A´s . Like, I can´t really expect to see QQ or JJ, as these would be x river. Wasn´t counting TT as I don´t think villain would defend TT otf also.

Anyway, jokerstars decided to put a 4 tables cap in all ring games, so I´m either moving entirely to 6-max (again ), or just forget my tilted rant and go to zoom.

Better to stick to 6-max ring tho, as this ****stars move just tilted even more haha

Cheers!

@FutureInsights I bought the author´s video course a few months ago, really great, and he talks about stuff that I guess is in his own book also. And it´s probably more up to date I guess. Anyway, tks. And yes, I should have the discipline to find a old in spots like that. As I said to 291, I can´t really imagine any logical blus here, unless it´s just random spew, and I can´t really play expecting that right?

So, planning to train 4 tabling 6-max and either stick to it or move to the zoom raketrap, or maybe finally change sites

Cheers

Btw, I really hope regs in general don´t move to zoom, so stars actually lose money by running less tables and earning less rake. Let´s see if tables get softer

Don't forget about the extra 1% rake for those who choose to just take their equity share of the pot when it goes all-in before the river. Hopefully that money-grabbing decision by Stars pisses off more regs too hahaha.

Yeah. But I´m pretty sure they will need to increase rake anyway. Can´t imagine stars earning the same amount without the 12-24 masstablers , even though ppl will probably play looser. The zoom raketrap will be even worse lol.

I´m never using that allin cashout feature, but I´m pretty sure stackoff ranges will get a little bit looser at unl, nits will be less afraid of getting the Money in with more optimal ranges.

Btw, you guys shouldn´t take everything I say at face value, in posts where the tilt word is present I was expecting this move, but to 6, not 4 tables maximum, and I think removing the masstablers should be a good thing in the end (less tables running, but with greater ev, both bc fish will be able to seat more easily, and also bc the masstablers won´t adjust well hopefully and will start to spew preflop lol). It ruined my FR grind, and I´m pissed off bc of that, but by being forced to move to 6-max, this might end up being a good thing in the grand scheme of things.

Still not moving my full volume to zoom

Cheers

Why did they switch to 4 tables? Any reasoning?

They keep talking about making the site better for recreationals, protecting the ecosystem and bs like that. All the while taking actions like rake increases, reduced rakeback, reducing # of tables, etc, which is obv bad for the ecosystem they want to protect (bc it just incentivizes more and more predatory behavior like bumhunting etc, which will only destroy fishes bankroll quicker).

Anyway, that´s their business anyway, and even though their software is still the best by miles, there are options. Just learned that RIO enabled the HH download after 24 hours, might go there again. Also bodog, 888, ipoker etc.

Btw, I´m calmer now So decided to try zoom again and the game seemed very tolerable. Maybe the pool got better with all the fr nits like me lol

Just need to find a way to make the hotkeys work. Even 2-tabling zoom makes my wrist hurt after a while.

Cheers

You should use StarsHelper. It's a great software for PS hotkeys.

@ZKesic Thanks, I´m gonna get this software.

So, tried both 2 and 3 tables of zoom this evening, and everything went just fine. I guess I should stick to the fun times only, definitely doable to put 1k hands playing 90 minutes max during the evenings. Would like to learn how to fight those aggro russians of the mornings/afternoons tho, or I´m pretty sure I´ll find the same difficulties after moving up again.



Cheers

Tried that today.

Sorta modified my opening range via my own database and that book. I don't 3 bet as often (even though I have plugged most of my leaks, database review showed the most mistakes were made by not sticking to my plan). I don't 3 bet AK anymore, and I don't start a bluff until the turn. (Learned these from the bosspoker vids, think the last vid he did at 25nl, started a little tilt ).

Lots less shoving if any. If I have the highest pair, just value bet. Someone bets one or two streets big bet, I am out of there. Also value bet flopped sets and flushes (found I was most often being called down by Ak - A2 whatever today), makes more money in short term than shove. Did a lot of study though. At higher limits, need to be a little more aggro, but have that in background already.

Just tilted close to 4 stacks today lol.

Biggest problem I find while playing zoom (and I remember one of you guys talking about that) is how the fast action compounds any mental leaks we´re suffering into true disasters.

Still think I´m running bad, when all the times I move in on the flop with 2p+ on dry boards vs fish, I get a bad beat by the river. All good to strong hands, from AA to flopped sets, get a suckout bc we get our utg open flatted on the button by 86o and he obv rivers a str8. Oh well, it´s part of the game ofc, and it´s pathetic to be complaining about this, and tomorrow when I read this post again I´ll wish there is a way to delete it

Anyway, I´m not in the mood to study, watch vids or whatever. If/when the tilt vanishes, I´m gonna try to play a small FR session 4-tabling. Hopefully the snail pace will help

Cheers

Seriously, that fear of losing is a big one, our perfectionism, results orientation, and the need to be pro earning level in certain amount of time all compounds tilt (all the above is stress, and someone taking your stack just compounds it.)

We have covered this before. You even get tilted at full ring. Going back does not help, changing how we cope with these stressors does. Mental work.

I am at 25nl level (though all new strategies are tried at 5nl until I move up to 50nl, then they will be tried at 25nl). I am going to deposit on ACR, and have platform with Rakeback there, hoping they get their blitz poker up and running goot.

You can do this. Most seem more concerned with volume, quantity over quality. I say, if can earn $100 playing 1k hands vs $100 playing 5k hands, prefer the $100 with 1k. Think about it, work smarter, not harder.