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12-01-2018 , 04:02 PM
Anyone know where to find the stream? Or has it finished?
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12-01-2018 , 04:18 PM
Didn't catch the stream, what was the announcement? Also, OP, what would you recommend to do/see in Amsterdam (if I'm not not mistaken you are Dutch?)
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12-01-2018 , 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by megalomaniac23
Didn't catch the stream, what was the announcement?
OP is going to play the whole of next month without looking at hole cards as he feels the game has lost its challenge
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12-03-2018 , 02:34 AM
did you already delete the stream
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12-03-2018 , 04:14 PM
only hud and vodka gameplay
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12-06-2018 , 06:51 AM
The games were pretty good last month, but I took two weeks off for a trip abroad, so I wasn't able to play much.
It's fun to be able to go anywhere you like, but now it's time to grind hard for the next 6 months. The goal is play 40k hands every single month.

We launched our own PLO project on December 1st, because we've been getting lots of requests by PLO players. We wanted to take our time and find the right coaches and set up the infrastructure.

Thanks for tuning into the stream week. I'm going to be streaming roughly once a week again from now on.



November




Lucky

Stacks:
UTG ($4,107.50) 82bb
CO ($5,000) 100bb
BTN Hero ($9,973) 199bb
SB ($4,950) 99bb
BB ($5,000) 100bb

Pre-Flop: (75, 5 players) Hero is BTN Q A
UTG raises to $150, 1 fold, Hero raises to $500, 2 folds, UTG calls $350
Flop: A 5 8 ($1,075, 2 players)

UTG checks, Hero bets $425, UTG raises to $1,150, Hero goes all-in $9,473, UTG goes all-in $2,457.50

Turn: Q ($14,155.50, 2), 2 all-in
River: 8 ($14,155.50, 2), 2 all-in

Final Pot: $14,155.50
UTG shows two pair, Aces and Eights
K A
Hero shows two pair, Aces and Queens
Q A

Hero wins $14,152.50 (net +$4,179.50)



Really wanted to fold

Stacks:
BTN ($11,098.79) 444bb
SB Hero ($6,182.07) 247bb
BB ($8,983.87) 359bb

Pre-Flop: (75, 3 players) Hero is SB 9 K
BTN raises to $126.50, BB folds, Hero calls $76.50
Flop: 9 5 K ($278, 2 players)

Hero checks, BTN bets $91.16, Hero raises to $350, BTN raises to $808.84, Hero calls $550

Turn: 3 ($1,986.84, 2)
Hero checks, BTN bets $1,370.32, Hero calls $1,370.32

River: 5 ($4,727.48, 2)
Hero checks, BTN raises to $8,701.97, Hero goes all-in $3,785.25

Final Pot: $17,214.70

Seat 4 lost -$6,182.07 [9 K] Two Pair, Kings and Nines
Seat 6 won $12,387.39 (+$6,205.32) [7 5] Three of a Kind, Fives
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12-06-2018 , 09:30 AM
simple amazing!
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12-07-2018 , 04:45 PM
Is BTN's play with 75s GTO or GTFO
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12-08-2018 , 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Katon Bond
Is BTN's play with 75s GTO or GTFO
gtfo
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12-08-2018 , 10:33 AM
which part
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12-08-2018 , 03:56 PM
Every street but pre-flop and the river
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12-08-2018 , 04:16 PM
I dunno mate, according to pio, flop c-bet is super low frequency, but as played, repop to 800 is pretty high freq, turn barrel super high freq and well river jam obv standard

so the only non-standard part would be the c-bet to 91$ with 75s on K95 BTNvsBB
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12-08-2018 , 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Xenoblade
I dunno mate, according to pio, flop c-bet is super low frequency, but as played, repop to 800 is pretty high freq, turn barrel super high freq and well river jam obv standard

so the only non-standard part would be the c-bet to 91$ with 75s on K95 BTNvsBB
3-bets OTF are insanely hard for humans to balance in real time with a correct pio frequency, even if pio likes doing it with that specific combo and it looks wp by villain, we don't know how much is he overdoing with those 3bets otf. If he is 3-betting every 5x unblocking FDs and BDFDs he will already be overdoing it by a lot, now add some random hands and he will be massively overbluffing.

Vs one of the best in the world like mmasherdog, the thing you don't wanna be doing is to expose your strategy to exploitation by that much. Just play a more simple strategy (like not having a 3bet range otf) even if it misses a bit of EV in theory. Because if you mess up with the 3bet range it can cost way more than that.

Villain's goal in that table (if he is a reg) should be to minimize his mistakes as much as he can vs mma and take the money from the fish/worst regs and get out of there. By expanding the game tree and playing a more complex game vs someone who is obviously better than he is, villain is reducing his edge on that table by a lot.
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12-08-2018 , 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Rapidesh123
Vs one of the best in the world like mmasherdog, the thing you don't wanna be doing is to expose your strategy to exploitation by that much. Just play a more simple strategy (like not having a 3bet range otf) even if it misses a bit of EV in theory. Because if you mess up with the 3bet range it can cost way more than that.
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12-08-2018 , 07:10 PM
we don't even know who villain was in the hand rapidesh, for all we know it could be a player better than MMA
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12-08-2018 , 07:22 PM
No such thing m8
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12-08-2018 , 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by JoseMourinho
Why do you think that not having a 3b range otf is opening ourselves to get exploited? Do you think that villain getting equity denial/thin value with his TP/midpairs and a bit more of equity realization with his bluffs is a big deal? We still have the turn and river to play IP vs him, with lots of hands that dominate his TP type of hands. If mma is x/r very aggressively(way more than pio), then developing a 3-bet range otf should add a lot pf EV, but if he is playing with a reasonable x/r then it's not a big mistake to play our continuing range as a call imo.

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Originally Posted by Xenoblade
we don't even know who villain was in the hand rapidesh, for all we know it could be a player better than MMA
The number of people that could be better than OP is very small, it's way more likely that it's someone worse, specially when he is playing nl2.5k on a not so mainstream site where HH is pretty bugged:


BTN raises to $126.50, BB folds, Hero calls $76.50
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12-08-2018 , 08:32 PM
Why don’t you two pm and stop cluttering the thread?
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12-08-2018 , 08:51 PM
End of the day if you don't have at least 3 flop 3bet sizes here in your arsenal, your a fish in 2018 and need to get back in the lab.
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12-08-2018 , 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Rapidesh123
3-bets OTF are insanely hard for humans to balance in real time with a correct pio frequency, even if pio likes doing it with that specific combo and it looks wp by villain, we don't know how much is he overdoing with those 3bets otf. If he is 3-betting every 5x unblocking FDs and BDFDs he will already be overdoing it by a lot, now add some random hands and he will be massively overbluffing.

Vs one of the best in the world like mmasherdog, the thing you don't wanna be doing is to expose your strategy to exploitation by that much. Just play a more simple strategy (like not having a 3bet range otf) even if it misses a bit of EV in theory. Because if you mess up with the 3bet range it can cost way more than that.

Villain's goal in that table (if he is a reg) should be to minimize his mistakes as much as he can vs mma and take the money from the fish/worst regs and get out of there. By expanding the game tree and playing a more complex game vs someone who is obviously better than he is, villain is reducing his edge on that table by a lot.
not saying ur wrong but u should probably give someone playing 100x ur stake level the benefit of the doubt and not assume they're making a mistake
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12-08-2018 , 09:06 PM
Rapid, seems like it's 5knl and the HH thinks it's 2.5k fwiw. I think there was an issue with party like this
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12-11-2018 , 07:42 AM
Rapid makes a lot of sense
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12-11-2018 , 07:43 AM
What do you guys think of me doing a bankroll challenge?
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12-11-2018 , 07:48 AM
Pretty poor use of your time imo. I guess you'd be streaming the entirety of it to try and advertise BTS.

Having said that, a 'can I win X amount in one month' at your usual stakes would be brilliant but I guess you'd be reluctant to stream it so it depends how high the max stake you're willing to stream is imo.
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12-11-2018 , 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Mixgrill
What do you guys think of me doing a bankroll challenge?
Didn't go so well for doug right?
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