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11-20-2017 , 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by BenaBadBeat
I mean this genuinely and not a dig. You were down 2bi and 2bi below ev... if this was a 100nl thread and someone was seemingly super tilted after losing $200, people would be like wtf.

Given that you're a high stakes pro and in this climate, edges are smaller than ever, I'm really surprised at the overall tone of this post
At 100nl you just go back the next day and grind it out but at 200/400 you're lucky if you even play another hand this year.
Also, not being happy with how a session went EV-wise in retrospect is very different to tilting during it.
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11-20-2017 , 11:23 AM
I hear what you're both saying, however, making the decision to take a super high variance situation, with the knowledge of the incurred monetary swings involved, in my opinion, shouldn't really have an impact on your mental game, especially when it's 2 buy ins. It just comes across a little entitled
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11-20-2017 , 11:51 AM
sRy Mr PeRFecT MINDseT
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11-20-2017 , 01:34 PM
l0o0o0o0o0l
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11-20-2017 , 02:26 PM
Nice job turning the session around, despite the run bad. You came across pretty calm and relaxed on the stream considering!

I just wanted to say a quick thank you for reviewing my footage during yesterday's stream. I really liked how you explained the actions you'd take for each hand and the reasons why before the footage played out - felt good when my lines and sizings agreed with your thought process, and validated when I was thinking about things in the correct way. And for the times where I played differently, it helped me understand what I was doing wrong and the flaws in my thinking.
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11-20-2017 , 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by ishipkq
sRy Mr PeRFecT MINDseT
lolled
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11-20-2017 , 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by BenaBadBeat
I mean this genuinely and not a dig. You were down 2bi and 2bi below ev... if this was a 100nl thread and someone was seemingly super tilted after losing $200, people would be like wtf.

Given that you're a high stakes pro and in this climate, edges are smaller than ever, I'm really surprised at the overall tone of this post
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Originally Posted by BenaBadBeat
I hear what you're both saying, however, making the decision to take a super high variance situation, with the knowledge of the incurred monetary swings involved, in my opinion, shouldn't really have an impact on your mental game, especially when it's 2 buy ins. It just comes across a little entitled
I'm going to use this one on my friend who is going through a divorce.

"Hey man, I mean this genuinely and this isn't a dig. I hear what you're saying, but you knew this was a possibility when you got married...this shouldn't really affect your mindset. All of this self pity talk just makes you sound entitled."

Running bad at 20x your average stakes in games that run infrequently #feelsbadman. Why lecture somebody for venting a bit of frustration?
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11-20-2017 , 06:47 PM
lets not get sidetracked and keep fun thread fun
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11-20-2017 , 10:30 PM
You woulda got beat down at laser tag anyway, best to stay inside where it is safe.
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11-21-2017 , 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Warder
I'm going to use this one on my friend who is going through a divorce.

"Hey man, I mean this genuinely and this isn't a dig. I hear what you're saying, but you knew this was a possibility when you got married...this shouldn't really affect your mindset. All of this self pity talk just makes you sound entitled."

Running bad at 20x your average stakes in games that run infrequently #feelsbadman. Why lecture somebody for venting a bit of frustration?
This genuinely might be the worst counter-argument to anything that I've ever read in my life.
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11-21-2017 , 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by BenaBadBeat
I mean this genuinely and not a dig. You were down 2bi and 2bi below ev... if this was a 100nl thread and someone was seemingly super tilted after losing $200, people would be like wtf.

Given that you're a high stakes pro and in this climate, edges are smaller than ever, I'm really surprised at the overall tone of this post
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Originally Posted by JYamada
Uh...I think you're wrong to post this as well..number one you including I play mostly zoom tables and the speed of reg tables is just aids and when you play 200/400 which probably only has one table running at a time I think OP has every right to ***** and complain how much of a grind it is..think about it Ben if you had to grind max 2 tables of 400 or 600NL for the whole day..so I think it's not fair if you compare this situation to a 100NL player...
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Originally Posted by BenaBadBeat
I hear what you're both saying, however, making the decision to take a super high variance situation, with the knowledge of the incurred monetary swings involved, in my opinion, shouldn't really have an impact on your mental game, especially when it's 2 buy ins. It just comes across a little entitled

Who says it has a huge impact on my mental game? It doesn't affect me much. It would just be nice to not run terribly all the time.
I play 30k hands of high stakes a month in good games, the variance should end somewhere.

I wasn't talking about losing 2 buy ins at nosebleeds. I meant that I've been running like shi t the whole year, despite grinding harder than all of those guys.
I don't feel entitled to anything. High stakes poker variance is brutal and I accept that, otherwise I'd just play 500 zoom and 5/10 only.

At least I've been running very hot this month. Jinx incoming.

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Originally Posted by ishipkq
sRy Mr PeRFecT MINDseT
Someone explain this one to me


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I just wanted to say a quick thank you for reviewing my footage during yesterday's stream. I really liked how you explained the actions you'd take for each hand and the reasons why before the footage played out - felt good when my lines and sizings agreed with your thought process, and validated when I was thinking about things in the correct way. And for the times where I played differently, it helped me understand what I was doing wrong and the flaws in my thinking.
Good to hear, GL
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11-21-2017 , 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by MagikarpFTW
At 100nl you just go back the next day and grind it out but at 200/400 you're lucky if you even play another hand this year.
Also, not being happy with how a session went EV-wise in retrospect is very different to tilting during it.






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Originally Posted by Warder
I'm going to use this one on my friend who is going through a divorce.

"Hey man, I mean this genuinely and this isn't a dig. I hear what you're saying, but you knew this was a possibility when you got married...this shouldn't really affect your mindset. All of this self pity talk just makes you sound entitled."

Running bad at 20x your average stakes in games that run infrequently #feelsbadman. Why lecture somebody for venting a bit of frustration?


IF YOU CANT STAND TEH HEAT GET OUT OF TEH ****ING KITCHEN...



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Originally Posted by Mixgrill

Someone explain this one to me
benanitbeat runs fairly boring pgc thread as well. he is a tehRAPIST in training and over teh course of his thread he brags several times how good his mindset is and that its almost impossible to get to his level at this point in time.
i think ishipKQ tried to take a cheap shot at this...
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11-22-2017 , 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by TimStone

benanitbeat runs fairly boring pgc thread as well. he is a tehRAPIST in training and over teh course of his thread he brags several times how good his mindset is and that its almost impossible to get to his level at this point in time.
i think ishipKQ tried to take a cheap shot at this...
It's not easy to go on a big downswing when playing 24/20...
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11-22-2017 , 08:42 AM
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11-22-2017 , 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Mixgrill
It's not easy to go on a big downswing when playing 24/20...
UhhhhhhhHhhhhhhhhhHhHHH play 24/20 then?
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11-22-2017 , 10:54 AM
having an exploitative approach pre flop (too loose?) at the highest stakes doesn't seem like a particularly good plan indeed, also I don't think you had a big downswing as far as bigblinds are concerned?
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11-22-2017 , 11:31 AM
I guess it's just when you post stuff like this:

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Originally Posted by Mixgrill
Fish just kept showing up and I just kept running like shi t, the way I usually do. Losing all of the setups at high stakes and having to grind my way out.

I wish I ran like all those those other sun runners who just show up occasionally and cooler the fish 3 times, but I have to play these insane sessions because otherwise I'll just be stuck heaps.
when you've posted stuff like this before:

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Originally Posted by Mixgrill
2016 recap

Wish granted, up 522k

2016


Really happy with my results. I ran pretty good and didn't have any big down swings.
I also improved a decent amount, despite not doing enough off the table work and not playing many reg games anymore.

Your ego always inflates when you're doing well and it's important to keep it in check and stay focused.
I already calculated my EV for next year, thought about my retirement age and other crazy and did unimportant things that you should not think about.
My focus will simply be to play as well as I possibly can and keep up my volume. That's all you can do in this crazy game.
but I mean w/e.
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11-22-2017 , 01:22 PM
give him some time, he's still young and inexperienced
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11-22-2017 , 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Warder
I'm going to use this one on my friend who is going through a divorce.

"Hey man, I mean this genuinely and this isn't a dig. I hear what you're saying, but you knew this was a possibility when you got married...this shouldn't really affect your mindset. All of this self pity talk just makes you sound entitled."

Running bad at 20x your average stakes in games that run infrequently #feelsbadman. Why lecture somebody for venting a bit of frustration?
yeah, this is exactly the same, you're right

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Originally Posted by Mixgrill
It's not easy to go on a big downswing when playing 24/20...
I'm too old to rise to this nonsense

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Originally Posted by Mixgrill
Who says it has a huge impact on my mental game? It doesn't affect me much. It would just be nice to not run terribly all the time.

I play 30k hands of high stakes a month in good games, the variance should end somewhere.
you've answered the question yourself. On the contrary, variance should not necessarily end somewhere, especially when you're playing 30k hands a month at 5-10x your av stake

As smb said, w/e, I was just pretty triggered by your comment and felt the need to comment on it.

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Originally Posted by ishipkq
sRy Mr PeRFecT MINDseT
hahaha, gtfo gonzo

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Originally Posted by TimStone
benanitbeat runs fairly boring pgc thread as well. he is a tehRAPIST in training and over teh course of his thread he brags several times how good his mindset is and that its almost impossible to get to his level at this point in time.
i think ishipKQ tried to take a cheap shot at this...
lmaooo, you know so much about me! feeling the love lad
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11-22-2017 , 03:58 PM
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11-22-2017 , 10:38 PM
FINALLY SOME ACTION ITT!!!

triggering teh uk gays isnt that easy btw so very very nice induce and vwp

#teamOP
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11-23-2017 , 02:37 AM
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Originally Posted by ishipkq
sRy Mr PeRFecT MINDseT
Rofl..

On a side note, was your Capslock having a stroke?
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11-23-2017 , 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by SmbSmbSmb
when you've posted stuff like this before:
Yeah, I ran slightly good last year, whereas I've run horribly this year.
Still don't see why this makes me entitled, you guys made that up. I just grind hard and hope for good results, they just haven't come yet and I mentioned it.



Yesterday was pretty terrible, as I lost 30k while playing very unfocused. Taking the day off to relax a bit.



Value bet versus fish gone right

$25/$50 No Limit Holdem
6 Players

Stacks:
UTG ($5,626.68) 113bb
UTG+1 ($5,845) 117bb
CO ($5,000) 100bb
BTN Hero ($6,997.50) 140bb
SB ($5,545) 111bb
BB ($5,000) 100bb

Pre-Flop: (75, 6 players) Hero is BTN A 10
UTG raises to $400, 2 folds, Hero raises to $1,150, 2 folds, UTG calls $750
Flop: 3 2 10 ($2,375, 2 players)

UTG checks, Hero bets $425, UTG calls $425

Turn: Q ($3,225, 2)
UTG checks, Hero bets $825, UTG calls $825

River: K ($4,875, 2)
UTG checks, Hero goes all-in $4,597.50, UTG goes all-in $3,226.68

Final Pot: $12,699.18
Hero shows
A 10
UTG shows
5 2

Hero wins $14,065 (net +$7,067.50)



Interesting line

Stacks:
UTG ($500) 100bb
CO Hero ($507.43) 101bb
BTN ($578.63) 116bb
SB ($736.48) 147bb
BB ($935.14) 187bb

Pre-Flop: (7.50, 5 players) Hero is CO 6 6
1 fold, Hero raises to $12.50, 1 fold, SB calls $10, 1 fold
Flop: 8 6 4 ($30, 2 players)

SB bets $28.50, Hero calls $28.50

Turn: A ($87, 2)
SB bets $84, Hero calls $84

River: 2 ($255, 2)
SB bets $252, Hero goes all-in $382.43, SB calls $130.43

Final Pot: $1,019.86
SB shows two pair, Eights and Fours
8 4
Hero shows three of a kind, Sixes
6 6

Hero wins $1,016.86 (net +$509.43)



Versus reg who sometimes plays 5k

Stacks:
UTG ($733.42) 147bb
UTG+1 ($988.66) 198bb
CO ($474.50) 95bb
BTN Hero ($856.86) 171bb
SB ($523.28) 105bb
BB ($550.63) 110bb

Pre-Flop: (7.50, 6 players) Hero is BTN 6 A
3 folds, Hero raises to $12.50, 1 fold, BB calls $7.50
Flop: K 5 A ($27.50, 2 players)

BB checks, Hero bets $8.62, BB calls $8.62

Turn: 5 ($44.74, 2)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: 8 ($44.74, 2)
BB bets $10.20, Hero raises to $43.65, BB calls $33.45

Final Pot: $132.04
Hero shows two pair, Aces and Fives
6 A
BB shows
10 J

Hero wins $129.04 (net +$64.27)



Can't beat the boss

Stacks:
UTG ($5,000) 100bb
CO Hero ($5,465) 109bb
BTN ($6,188.39) 124bb
SB ($16,435.94) 329bb
BB ($10,991.45) 220bb

Pre-Flop: (75, 5 players) Hero is CO K J
1 fold, Hero raises to $125, BTN raises to $369.50, 2 folds, Hero calls $244.50
Flop: J 2 5 ($814, 2 players)

Hero checks, BTN bets $293.30, Hero calls $293.30

Turn: 6 ($1,400.60, 2)
Hero checks, BTN bets $1,336.39, Hero calls $1,336.39

River: 9 ($4,073.38, 2)
Hero checks, BTN goes all-in $4,189.20, Hero goes all-in $3,465.81

Final Pot: $11,728.39
BTN shows a pair of Queens
Q Q
Hero shows a pair of Jacks
K J

BTN wins $11,725.39 (net +$5,537)

Last edited by Mixgrill; 11-23-2017 at 11:35 AM.
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11-23-2017 , 12:00 PM
very fun hands

Op can we get a list? best and worst regs

people love lists
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11-23-2017 , 12:04 PM
Cryptic captions
I guess he was value betting JTo if he decided it’s good enough to call lol?
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