I might be interested to put some here too...

Let me know. PM or here

Are people betting against this guy assuming he will or will not get coaching? If he does get coaching surely the odds should be reduced in favour of the bettor?!

I won't get coaching donk. Delete your stupid post

8k isnt enough to cover the loss in hourly from possibly having to reduce to under 30 tables,
your bet completey favours yourself, my hourly comes from the amount of tables i play, i will prob take a loss for the first part of the year incase some how you manaage to actually make money, the 15k is minimum at the bet you propose

and like i stated ill give you 1.5:1 at 10K minimum for you for yearly profits pre rb with no cap on vpps or games

Ok I'll bet 8k vs 8k at this one

And 7k vs 10.5k on this one. That's a total of 15k on my part vs your 8k+10.5k= 18.5k

Deal?

So your trying to freeroll the No cap prop bet by proposing a split to cover your loss while still in no way covering my yearly loss of losing hourly for 1million vpps?Your not smart enough to come up with that, however i dont mind who advices you or coaches you that doent cover in anyway the loss ill take on hourly for 60% of the year you ant to bet 15k total there i dont get why you dont want to bet 15k on just the first one which is more suited to you?

You obviously know that by doing this it stops me from crushing profit till 1million then vpping for possible loss for rest of year, because ill have to watch my total profit still, you aren't smart enough to have come up with this your self

The prop shoudlnt effect my yearly, it doesnt effect yours it shouldnt effect mine,, yes its my decision to play twice as many tables as yourself, however i should then be proposed odds in my favour, I cant justify 8k for the loss on hourly to beat you, while you reciieve coaching, everything you offer doesnt effect your yearly outcome or anything you planned to do, it does mine..

Untll we reach an agreement i suggest we do this through skype before this gets cluttered with back and forth., im not going to be free rolled essentially and give you odds of 1.5:1 thats absurd

Ok, we can talk on skype. I already gave you...

added on skype

Zibou & I have just booked a bet. BBZ is the escrow.

- Bet is pre-rb profit first 6 months of 2014 (jan 1 to jun 30), highest profit or least $ lost (lolsigh) wins.
- Live@pompeii vs. zibou04 on pokerstars only
- Bet only counts SNGs played buy-in $1+, no MTTs, free rolls, cash etc.
- Min VPPs to qualify is 500k, if a player does not have 500k VPPs for the year by end of June 2014 pokerstars server time he loses the bet.
- if legislation in either of the countries we are residing in forces us to move, affected player is given 2 months maximum delay to move out and restart bet. Remaining time for player from first game sat after restart will be equal to time left after that player's last game was played. (So no more than 6months playing time will be given to either player.)

If anyone sees anything important I've left out, please let us know.

Odds are 1:1, my $7.5k to zibou's $7.5k.

Zibou & I have already booked on Skype, but zibou plz quote to confirm ITT.

Looking for a judge(s), TBD

2 more details:

- Bet starts January 1st 2014 at 0:00 EST and ends June 30th 2014 at 23:59 CET.
- The bet will be void if PokerStars removes 6-max turbo SnG's (game i will play the most volume in)

Confirmed & booked! Glgl!!

Also, everyone can take side action and bet on our HU match (me vs live@pompeii aka starting gun)

Will put $100-200 on l@p at 1:1. No escrow needed if I know you

I might be interested in betting against you as well zibou, what do you think your abi is going to be? I would probably be most willing to do a $60-200 6max pre rb profit bet, if we include higher stakes, whoever sun runs the highest stakes will win.

I'm sure you know already, but in case you dont, I play 6m hts $60-500 as 99.9% of my volume

So, im betting 1:1 that you will profit pre-rakeback(only SNG counts) and achieve SNE next year... If one of them is not acomplished i win the bet!!!

It is ok for you Zibou ???

P.S: I added you on skype

My av-buy in will be between $80-$150, probably more around $150. Don't know exactly yet, since I still have to figure out how high do I wanna play next year.

Is $200 fine for the bet of me vs live@pompeii? You can bet more, there's still plenty of action to fill on this, even though I already got $7.5k on this...

Me vs you bet, I think I accept too, but would like to see your whole 2013 results if you don't mind. Maybe unlock sharkscope and send me a link/pic? With every stat obv, roi etc.

Yes it is ok, just tell me how much you want to bet, and SN please.

Cool so a $60-200s only bet would be good then as it it would mean we'd have about the same abi on the tournaments that are eligible for the prop bet.

I will add you on skype later today or tomorrow and show you graphs broken down by stake etc, and we can talk about coming up with a prop

Ok, just want to say also also it's better to do the prop bet for the first 6 month instead of 12. This way we don't have to hold $ for so much time. We both have to reach 500k vpps by June 30th too, otherwise the bet is lost for the player not accomplishing this goal.

Besides that it should also only count the profit made on the first 500k vpps. I know you are going for 3m vpps so there's no way I can put in that much volume too. Only going for 1m vpps next year here (very probably) So I have 0 tolerance for negotiating in this specific matter, unless you lay down crazy crazy odds in my favor

zibou does this mean we can do ours over 6months?if that is the case i will more likely agree to me stopping and capping vpps at 500K, you have 6months i get stopped at 500k, if so i will offer you 1:1 in that scenario and ill take your remaining roll as action, looking for 15k as stated

will however take more if you can do so

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OK ICANTSNG has booked 12.5k at 1:1 with Zibou at a 400k vpp cap with a sng buy in level MAX of $200 (to avoid sun run in short period as per jdawgs idea) i have given zibou 6months however even though this isnt sne pace, both the VPPS and $ won and lost $300+ does not count, that is why i have given him 6months for 400k, as both of us will have a number of vpps from $300+ to calculate this it will be rake paid $1-$200 obviously 181K/2.5K to calculate 400k vpps, The legislation changes and laws etc will be devided and confirmed with the judge and escrow, Will try to contact BBZ as he actually hadn't confirmed to be escrow i believe. Any other reputable Judges can 2+2 memebers please post for possible, and there will be a Webcam rule, exactly how long it has to stay on or if requested by the judges etc will be decided once judge is confirmed.

Yes, I can confirm I have booked that bet with "ICANTSNG". Details here:

- Bet is pre-rakeback profit first 6 months of 2014 (jan 1 to jun 30), highest profit or least $ lost wins.
- ICANTSNG vs. zibou04 on pokerstars only
- Bet only counts SNGs played buy-in $1+ to $200, no MTTs, free rolls, cash games.
- Min VPPs to qualify is 400k (only from sng's between $1+ to $200), if a player does not have 400k VPPs for the year on those sng buy-ins by end of June 2014 he loses the bet.
- Any profit or vpp's made on $201+ sng's, won't count for this prop bet.
- If legislation in either of the countries we are residing in forces us to move, affected player is given 2 months maximum delay to move out and resume the bet. Remaining time for player from first game sat after restart will be equal to time left after that player's last game was played. (So no more than 6 months playing time will be given to either player.)
- Odds are 1:1
- Amount of bet is minimum $10k.
- Bet starts January 1st 2014 at 0:00 EST and ends June 30th 2014 at 23:59 EST.
- The bet will be void if PokerStars removes 6 and 18 max turbo SnG's as long as fifty50's.
- The bet only starts when escrow receives total prop bet money from both players.

Agreed, and webcam rules will be discussed with final Judge/Judges