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12-12-2013 , 08:06 PM

#26

MrBubbleBoy

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yeah not so sure on rule 6

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12-12-2013 , 10:08 PM

#27

zibou04

centurion

Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 109

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Originally Posted by MrBubbleBoy

can you reserve me 750 to win 500?

Booked.

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Originally Posted by MrBubbleBoy

yeah not so sure on rule 6

Yeah sorry for my English on that paragraph. What I was trying to say was that if Portugal becomes legislated in terms of poker online, and we poker players, have to pay additional taxes (like the case of Greece for example), then the bet will be void. It only isn't if I left Portugal and started to grind in another country within a 30 day period.

Once again sorry if my English wasn't fully understandable. If there is any more doubt about this specific matter, I am be fully available to answer, so please let me know if this is the case.

Last edited by zibou04; 12-12-2013 at 10:15 PM.

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12-12-2013 , 10:31 PM

#28

MrBubbleBoy

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is there any current movement or rumor that this may happen to legislation

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12-12-2013 , 10:37 PM

#29

PS ICANTSNG

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So, i can now book my action?

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12-12-2013 , 10:39 PM

#30

zibou04

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Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 109

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Originally Posted by MrBubbleBoy

is there any current movement or rumor that this may happen to legislation

Well even if poker is legislated in Portugal, no one knows yet if there will be taxes for players to pay. All this legislation stuff has been talked over the news for something like 2 years, but nothing has been done yet. I think Portugal has more important issues to treat atm, like Troika etc

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12-12-2013 , 10:55 PM

#31

zibou04

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Originally Posted by PS ICANTSNG

So, i can now book my action?

me vs you profit pre-rb with 1:1 odds?? looool this year I'm negative -1%/-2% roi and you're up +1% roi on sng's. AND i grind less games than you! I would be a huge underdog on that bet lol, come on man don't troll me

I don't do profit pre-rakeback vs you since I'm gonna grind less games than you. What we could do is do that bet of pre-rb profit, but only counting the first X number of games of who grinded less.

For example, if I played 20k games and you played 30k games, then it will only count who made the most profit on the first 20k games.

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12-13-2013 , 05:56 AM

#32

Captain Sifilis

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I smell pussy.

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12-13-2013 , 08:09 AM

#33

PS ICANTSNG

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So in other words your trying to alter any bet we make to best suit you?you must realise that until you post the max bet i cant agree to ur specific terms., im not going to effect my hourly just to lol rape you in a prop bet, the prop bet has to then cover my losses, for exmaple if i choose x amount of games, and you lay 6max turbo in off peak when there weak and im 30 tabling fifty50s and all peak games im obv at a huge disadvantage to you which i currently do now and know u wont have a 50k year pre rb so im gunna take it at 1:1 even though its three times harder however i need you to state a maximum

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12-13-2013 , 08:12 AM

#34

PS ICANTSNG

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how about hours played in a year?tracked by your software?the moment ur game # differentuiates from scope to ur trackin program hh must be supplied so u cant delete when u dump 30k, i think hours played is fair, so its a hourly win rate bet

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12-13-2013 , 08:14 AM

#35

PS ICANTSNG

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Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 1,014

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Originally Posted by zibou04

looool this year I'm negative -1%/-2% roi and you're up +1% roi on sng's. AND i grind less games than you! I would be a huge underdog on that bet lol, come on man don't troll me

so you are publicly now admitting i am a much better player then yourself?ive played more games, not hours

/bet by sounds of it

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12-13-2013 , 09:51 AM

#36

zibou04

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Ok I'm willing to give the odds you want, and make 1.25:1 odds on my favor on the bet, me vs you better pre-rakeback profit on the same number of games. It's obvious that you will lol rape me given our results this year on sng's, so 1.25:1 it's a big big advantage for you. You can't say I could just choose to grind off peak games and win a little advantage there, because you know me. I multitable like a machine when I play (not as much as some sickos though), and don't table select ever. You can always see me open sit any 6 max turbo on the PS lobby. I also only grind peak games, you only find me grinding at night (Europe Time).

I don't want to make a prop on hourly because my tracker is not accurate as it should on this. So I think the best is to do what I said on paragraph 1 of this post. I'm willing to bet up to 2.5k$ on this one

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12-13-2013 , 10:21 AM

#37

TT_fold

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Hmmm, I may take you up on this for a few K.

To be clear, you're laying 3: my 2? And what's the maximum you'll be risking here and elsewhere so I know how motivated u are?

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12-13-2013 , 10:49 AM

#38

zibou04

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Originally Posted by TT_fold

Hmmm, I may take you up on this for a few K.

To be clear, you're laying 3: my 2? And what's the maximum you'll be risking here and elsewhere so I know how motivated u are?

Yeah we can book that bet if you want (3k$ you vs my 2k$). Right now I got a lot of people interested in prop betting with me and it bothers me that I could lose a lot of money with this. Some friends of mine already said it looks like i'm perhaps a big/medium underdog on this prop bets so I should be careful. But I believe I have a chance to win, and I'm not talking just with my super-ego... well maybe I am meh. I do think I have chances to win

Right now I don't have a maximum $ set to what I'll be risking. I think maybe a few more K$ and I'm done. Maybe 10K$? I just regret not laying better odds for me in the beginning since the insane action I'm getting.

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12-13-2013 , 03:48 PM

#39

zibou04

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Originally Posted by TT_fold

Hmmm, I may take you up on this for a few K.

To be clear, you're laying 3: my 2? And what's the maximum you'll be risking here and elsewhere so I know how motivated u are?

So do you want the bet booked? Let me know as soon as you can because there's other people interested atm who are waiting..

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12-13-2013 , 04:05 PM

#40

PS ICANTSNG

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Originally Posted by zibou04

why do you keep changing it? there is no set number of gmes for christ sake, what i stop playing for the year for ur 2K prop..

heres my final offer cause you talk out of your ass i will lay 1.5:1 ur favour, for profit pre rb with sne, no game count, minimum bet is your 10K to my 15K

stop looking for anyway around the bet you talked it up eith except it or dont

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12-13-2013 , 04:25 PM

#41

zibou04

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Originally Posted by PS ICANTSNG

WoW!! alone you're getting probably almost 100% action I'm selling. Man never thought you were so fearless! Ok I accept, my 10k$ to your 15k$ according to the rules set on the prop bet of post number 1 of this thread (me making a profit pre-rakeback + making SNE on 2014)

Booked. I'll send the money to BBZ (bigbluffzinc) as soon as I finish my SNE of this year (65k vpps left atm, ~2weeks). I don't think I'll accept more action other than this and the other one booked by "MrBubbleBoy". It's just way too much than I expected and wanted to bet. I should've changed the odds to 2:1 but now I'll have to go with this I guess.. Gonna be the biggest challenge of my life that's for sure

I don't want to be a dick here, so GL to everyone!

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12-13-2013 , 04:33 PM

#42

bigstealer

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Originally Posted by PS ICANTSNG

Is this the original bet or you vs him pre rakeback bet?

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12-13-2013 , 11:08 PM

#43

istack_u5

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Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 618

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Originally Posted by bigstealer

Is this the original bet or you vs him pre rakeback bet?

this

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12-14-2013 , 01:36 AM

#44

OurSurveySays

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 5,486

You confirm you will escrow withnbigbluff too? Interesting betting quite a bit. What's maximum exposure you want?

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12-14-2013 , 05:27 AM

#45

PS ICANTSNG

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Originally Posted by zibou04

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Originally Posted by PS ICANTSNG

clearly its me vs you zibou not u tp get sne

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12-14-2013 , 06:31 AM

#46

PS ICANTSNG

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To make things clear the prop bet being offered to you,

Is that myself ICANTSNG on stars will give you ZIBOU04 on stars 1.5:1 odds in your favour, of a minimum of 10k, So thats 15k vs your 10k in a Yearly Pre rb profits bet while both achieving SNE, as stated already if either fail to get sne its instant loss, or if both fail it will b judge on pre rb winnings..

There is NO cap limit on number of games to be played, there is no restrictions in anyway in sitting eachothers games, the prop is strictly based on SNG's so if you achieve SNE but dont rake the amount required which is 181818.18$ in sngs your SNE status does not count nor do any winnings or loses outside of sngs

Each player is not allowed to play heads up SNGS for any amount Above $200 in Novemevber or december UNLESS they have played a total of 1000games or more HU sngs $200+ up to that point (to prevent sitting 5k hu sngs when being behind)

the Escrow and judge will be BBZ and money must be received by 11PM on december 31st ET (ET will used as this is what stars bases everything around)

Neither player may block there at any stage for any length of period, nor restart, either player doing so will automatically lose, Bigbluffzinc may also request audits from each player if he pleases

If you agree to this we then will add more details such as country restrictions (which happens to look likely however i will be relocating either way) and severe injury/illness and deaths etc

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12-14-2013 , 11:09 AM

#47

zibou04

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Hello there ICANTSNG,

I accept your bet but we'll have to add/alter 2 more things. 1st, change the amount of the bet to half ($10k is too much to bet on this single bet for me atm). 2nd, it only counts the number of games of the first 1m vpp's. If you play more than 1m vpp's, it will only count the profit made on the first 1m vpp's.

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Originally Posted by OurSurveySays

You confirm you will escrow withnbigbluff too? Interesting betting quite a bit. What's maximum exposure you want?

It's hard to find him on skype last couple of days, so I can't confirm yet 100%. I'll try my best to talk to him soon. Whoever has his skype can also try to confirm

----* I would also like to say, action for the prop bet regarding post #1 of this thread, is still open to book (money transfers to escrow will only open around last 10 days of current month)*----

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12-14-2013 , 12:29 PM

#48

zibou04

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Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 109

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Originally Posted by zibou04

Propbet summary:
This propbet is that I, zibou04, can be profitable pre-rakeback playing sit and go's on Pokerstars PLUS achieve Supernova Elite status in the upcoming year of 2014, starting 1th January 2014 at 0:00 Central European Time (CET) and ending 31th December 2014 at 23:59 CET.

These sit and goes will need to be of $1 buyin or higher. Sattelite sit and go's, mtt's and cash games will be excluded. If i play these for fun at the end of a day, they will not count in the bet.

I have to be profitable pre-rakeback AND achieve Supernova Elite status at the same time, to win this bet. If I fail succeeding one of this conditions, I lose the bet.

Escrow
If we don't know eachother too well from past dealings, escrow will be bigbluffzinc, much respected Supernova Elite pokerplayer.

Updates:
I will update from time to time here and I will update on a portuguese forum

Difficulty:
2013 pre-rakeback results -

60$+ games are pretty hard these days (as seen in my whole graph)

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Rules:

Spoiler:

Let more action come in guys, either in here, PM or on skype is OK. Any remarks for other rules/suggestions/etc are welcome too.

I allready have enough to do the challenge regardless but I have plenty of action that can be filled up still.

PM me on twoplustwo(zibou04) on skype(andre90p) and we talk

cheers

Hey guys, just want to let you know all, I officially changed the odds of this prop bet to 1:1 instead of 1.5:1, after some requests and conversations.

The goal is to reach $5K or more in action in a shorter period of time. Right now I had 1 booked bet of $750 with 1.5:1 odds in my favor and another one of $3000 suspended. Despite that I'm still changing the odds to 1:1 in order to reach a higher amount of action in less time.

For those 2 bettors (one booked, one suspended) odds will remain 1.5:1 if I don't reach at least $5k in action (till 31th december) with 1:1 odds. If i reach, they'll benefit too of the 1:1 odds!

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12-14-2013 , 12:29 PM

#49

PS ICANTSNG

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Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 1,014

thats not accepting my bet what so ever are you a pussy?

if you want to bet on my profits at 1million point its 1:1 odds minimum 15k

you claim your so great then earn more then me in a year?simple...

you alter every prop given to you and want odds in your favour yet your the great zibou, your a drooler 1:1 15k my profts stop at 1mill vpps