as a radio PD, I would probably be more likely to toss it the trash for that

You don't run a sports station by any chance?

One day in, one goal is complete!

Just had the second worst session since I started this thread in terms of bb lost. I played fine and feel fine, though. I lost over 500bb but I also lost a 500+bb pot as a 77% favorite and played really well overall. I did stop early though. I'm not really using a stop loss at 1/2 or 1/3 anymore but I was stuck huge and the game lost all but one fish and she was up huge and in lock up the win mode.

Anyway that means I have to rediscover those hours in the next couple of days, so I'll have to change my planned schedule.

It looks like I'm going to have a real tough time hitting my hourly goal for the first period of the year. I built up some sleep debt and needed a day off today, so I took it. I also revised my schedule in a way that means less hours, but more profit, as I'm back at 2/5. It's a longer drive to play 2/5, but I'm scheduling to maximize my expected profits.

I also have had to bank a debt on the pushups and hindu squats. After a couple of days of doing them, I got some really bad pain under my left shoulder blade. I'm pretty sure the way I was sitting at the poker table was putting it under extra stress, as I regularly had mild tightness and pain there before. I think the pushups aggravated it worse, so I've started some stretching to try to fix the problem and will ease back into the pushups.

Annoying, but I didn't want to make it worse, so I'm trying to be smart about it.

Just from the perspective of someone who has been hiring manager for a lot of smart folks over the years - I agree. Our field has nothing to do with radio of course but if someone put "mensa" on their resume I would almost automatically put them in the "smart but egotistic" basket. That could change with an interview, but that would definitely not give you a leg up for an interview.

I'd legit laugh somebody out of the office for caring about being in mensa

I don't understand all this hate towards Mensa? Wouldn't that kind of be something worth noting? I mean people mention things like playing flag football on a res, but Mensa is something worth laughing at?

High iq has no correlation to anything worth while in the work place. Flag football at least shows you are a team player.

There's a fundamental difference between people with high iq and people with high iq who seek out validation for it.

There's a very small wiser oft he population of Mensa(I am only counting those who are active in the sense of going to conferences or listing on resume) I would want to work with.

Is this really true?

I don't want to derail, but if the investment banks put such weight on people from top 10 schools, there's at least some sort of argument against what you are saying. I somewhat agree that intelligence isn't the most important thing when it comes to performance at work, but if you don't think it's a factor in some roles then I think you're nuts.

There is clearly a floor below which nobody has a chance of learning how to do certain jobs. Being an engineer, 11t should certainly understand that many people would have no hopes of being able to learn how to do his job. After a certain point, for most things, it's my opinion that other traits are just as important as IQ.

So listing any awards should be avoided? It's pretty common to list trade awards in broadcasting. Basically if I'm applying along with 100 or even 200+ people I need to stand out big time.


It's not so much caring about being in Mensa as demonstrating intelligence on a resume. My GPA was just good not great. How would you recommend doing it?

It depends on what your job is, I guess, but putting flag football on a sports broadcasting resume would definitely get me laughed out of a room.



There's a difference in seeking validation and trying to get a job by demonstrating your strengths, is there not? Although the networking would by far be more valuable than listing that you're in Mensa.



Exactly... It doesn't necessarily apply to broadcasting but if I end up pursuing any jobs outside that field, this was a way to show that I'm more than my GPA or communications degree - that I can match wits with applicants who pulled a 4.0 or went to an Ivy League school.

Again you guys are not differentiating between smart people and people who join Mensa(to be a card carrying memento, doing so to see if you are smart enough is ok). There are many factors that push someone to want to join Mensa and a lot of them are not things people want as employees/co workers.

I think the less experience you have, the younger you are, the more you spice up your resume with other items and interests.

When you get to a point where you have worked a certain number of jobs in your field, you need to eliminate the other things. I see GPA on resumes of 22-year-olds. By the time you are 52 you don't even remember your GPA.

Since your resume should be limited to 1 page (that's all I ever wanted to read), you have limited space.

In my field (computer engineering), the norm for resumes is 1-2 pages for every 10 years experience.

I enjoy testing myself, and that's a big part of it. I'm not the type to go around telling people about something like that, and would kind of be embarrassed to mention it in person if it came up... but on a resume, LinkedIn, etc, I feel like that's our spot to put our absolute best foot forward.

I'm definitely of the one page resume belief... You kind of touch on a thought of mine, which is if I'm getting out of broadcasting and applying for something else, I'll be competing with people who either have more experience or a higher level of education. Putting broadcasting on my resume and looking like an inexperienced late-20 or early-30 something with a communications degree may not be impressive, so I thought of Mensa as a way to demonstrate intelligence to potential employers. Seems like most people think it would be more of a hindrance than a help - so to those people, what would you suggest in that type of situation?

Of course, I don't expect to end up in that spot, because I've got all of my plans and I'm working hard at them, but Mensa seemed like a simple thing to do to plan for the unforeseen and spruce up the resume while testing myself. I'm certainly up for other ideas - it's one of the cool things about this thread.

Thank God I'm not an engineer (no offense - only from a resume-creating standpoint). I obsess over ONE page. Two pages per 10 years? I think I'd lose my mind!

Okay so to be in mensa you have to pass a test which makes the assertion that you are in the 98th percentile. I'm making the assertion that the difference between the 90th percentile and the 99th is negligible and above a minimum threshold the most important thing is work ethic.

Somebody mentioned the top 10 schools which makes the false correlation between schools and IQ. the real correlation is between good grades and work ethic. Everybody I know who went to a top tier school had one thing in common: they busted their ass off.

Get into mensa? That's ****ing cute. Graduate from Harvard? That's ****ing impressive.

This is probably true for most jobs, but if given the choice between the person in the 99th percentile and the 90th, all else being equal or close to equal, everyone should take the smarter applicant.

Well how would you go about demonstrating that same quality if you couldn't do it upon a career change based on your college or on past recommendations (in broadcasting, even your superiors don't have a clue how hard you work)? I also busted my ass to get into school and get through school - the issue is that it wouldn't apply to a career change in the future. Most people outside communications fields don't know that Syracuse is the #1 public communications and broadcasting school in the country in any given year (always top 3). I also got into the #1 computer science school coming out of high school, had I chosen to go that route (those were the two I was considering), which is obviously irrelevant now - point being, I busted my ass through high school to have those options, then picked one and busted my ass there to distinguish myself. I've been busting my ass for the last 6-7 years since graduating, and hopefully will see some breakthroughs soon. However, at this point if I end up having to get a job outside broadcasting/poker/starting a business, none of that will help me.

Thus, I came up with the Mensa idea, which is apparently comical to a lot of people on here - none of whom have offered another idea that applies to my situation - the need to demonstrate that you have all of the qualities that an employer would be looking for, without the traditional ways to prove it.

Anyway, it was more of a fleeting aside as a minor detail on one of my less important goals in my 2015 post - a fun way to test myself and, I was thinking at the time, boost my resume. It's not that big of a deal.

if you are as good at that as you are at trivia crack then you are a lock to make it

Yeah, too bad I can't make a living off of Trivia Crack.

If I saw a resume with a "good but not great" GPA and Mensa I would just assume you are smart but lazy.

I didn't get great grades for several semesters while in college but I do two things:

1. don't put it on my resume
2. I own it

If i am asked in interviews I don't make excuses, tell them I ****ed up, and make sure they know I learned from it.

Seems to me that cuse has enough work experience to make his college GPA pretty irrelevant. He's 6+ years out of college with half a dozen jobs on his resume, GPA shouldn't even be a discussion, no?

Cuse, if you really want to improve your resume go get more schoolin'. Mensa isn't the way to go.

Meh, reasonable ass-busting correlation, but my default is I wanna see some evidence of work.

GPA should be (almost always is) irrelevant after first job. Production is pretty much the only thing that matters.

Saying you're in mensa is meaningless if you can't articulate your transferable skills. A very basic but incredibly important life skill is figuring out how skill 1 from career 1 translates to career 2. This is why PhD's with zero employment history are seen as valuable in industry...they've exhibited an aptitude for project management by simply completing the program. (That's just an example fwiw.)