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06-29-2014 , 05:27 AM
Updates and responses to come. Yesterday I played with a methhead today a dude high on opiates. Conclusion: opiate users are friendlier but also more annoying. I ran awful and grinded through it. Due to the bluff conversation in Duke's thread I ran a few bluffs. You'll have to wait for the results to see... But hint: I'm a beast at finding 1/2 bluff spots.

I also snap called on a $500 prop bet... it'll be my first. Ha! He didn't know I had rookie run good in my corner. Full prop bet details coming up. There's also a humiliation bet and if it's too close to call a three part tiebreaker. We could end up with a $500 game of beer pong. If so we are gonna have to get an audience and some premium beer.
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06-29-2014 , 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by mkultra88
Get em Cuse, GL tonight.
Thanks!

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Originally Posted by All-inMcLovin
You either go busto the hero or chip up long enough to become the villain!
With great hero call power comes great poker responsibility?

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Originally Posted by Pushaholic
Looks like the old Cuse is back...and he's pumped. Better. Stronger. Faster.

Session reports should be coming soon...
I know I got to be right now, cause I can't get much stronger! I need a little Terrell Owens video. "Get your popcorn ready!"

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Originally Posted by fintan111.
Spent many hours over the last few days reading. Congrats on the progress
Thanks! Much appreciated, hope you enjoyed it.

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Originally Posted by Pushaholic
Nice session. I've missed these detailed session reports!
I've missed writing them! Gotta get more volume in.

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Originally Posted by JoeyBlaze
Great session and an awesome writeup.

Was pretty sure you recognized me haha. Just not completely cause I was wearing a hat and glasses this time.

I just said I had a pair that hand. J9s.

Kinda regretted that table change. I should have just seat changed to the meth head's left.

I'll prob be back there again in a couple weeks. Games are top notch at Borgata this time of year.
Thanks... Nice laydown with the J9. I'm not sure my donking range since I just started looking for spots to do it recently, but you're probably marginal either way. Maybe sets and 78.

Well you missed a couple players that helped me get that big stack. Seat changing to the meth guy's left was an interesting thought. I was kind of putting myself in your shoes wondering if I'd do it... You'd have me on your near left, and even though I'm not going to be coming after you specifically, you know I'm very aggro in position in general so you aren't going to be able to overlimp as much and such. He was also making it so obvious when he had a big hand, having position wasn't quite as necessary.

The games were awesome yesterday - how'd you do? I didn't see you around later in the day. I briefly considered not playing a WSOP satellite online cause my first game was so good, but I was too fired up to skip it.
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06-29-2014 , 10:09 PM
June 28 - “I’m back, better than ever, on top of my game, / Even them country boys sayin’, ’50 we feeling you, man. / Now you stay the f*** outta my zone, outta my throne. / I’m New York City’s own, bad guy!”

I woke up feeling good, I tried a nootropic for enhanced REM sleep and it seems good so far. I had gotten a late checkout, and there was an online satellite to the WSOP Main Event at 5pm, so the plan was a session beforehand at Borgata, then play it in the cafeteria, ship it and go home. Sequel was in it too, so if he shipped it, I was considering driving up to New York for celebration. In the unlikely event I didn’t ship it, I’d play another 1/2 session.

I was feeling really confident coming off the previous session, ready to start upswinging bigtime.

Hand No. 1

A kid in headphones raises to $12, an older guy calls and I call with TT.

Flop ($35): T53

It checks to me and I decide to check. I rarely slowplay, but the kid in headphones seems like a kind of nitty online player. When he checks this board, he always has either two unpaired big cards or 66-99. Thus, I’m getting no real value from betting. I may get a street from 66-99, but I may get it later anyway. The other guy checked BEHIND the raiser, which means he probably has nothing. Only weird straight draws are even drawing live right now, no way either of them has an overpair.

Turn ($35): 3

The kid bets $15 and the other guy folds. I call. Again, he’s likely either bluffing or betting a pair under the 10. Raising does nothing for me.

River ($64): 8

He bets $25. I think for a bit, because really I’m not getting much value from anything. His hand looks like 99 or 77 at this point. I decide I can either make a weird small raise to like $55 and try to just give him too much of a price, or I can try to take a bluffy line. If he calls the $30 70% of the time, the EV of that raise is $21. If he calls a raise to $100 even 30% of the time, it’s a better raise. I decide to try to make it look bluffy and slide out a stack of reds. He thinks a bit and folds 99.

This is one of those spots where you’re running good in making a full house, but not running good enough to get paid off.

Hand No. 2

There’s a limper and I pick up AK and make it $12 in EP. The BB calls, he’s a relatively new player who seems fishy. We’ll learn more about that in a bit. The limper calls. I forget my reads on him as I type this up. I think he was limping a lot and playing kind of weak-tight.

Flop ($33): K97

It checks to me and I bet $20. The BB calls, the other player folds. I start warming up the bus to Valuetown.

Turn ($72): K

He checks. I basically have him on a weaker K at this point so I’m just extracting. He’s got like $300 left, so I need him to put in a raise to get it all. I bet $50. He calls.

River ($172): 3

I’m planning on betting about $110 here, but he beats me to it and bets $110. I tank as to whether or not to raise. I decide on this board I’m not getting paid off enough when I raise, and I’ve repped a big K the whole way. I just call. He shows AT and takes it down with the expert flop out of position float with the extreme backdoor equity.

Hand No. 3

I’ve been running bad and I’m down to like $220 on my second buyin. I’ve basically missed a lot of flops and I’ve got a super fishy table so it’s a good way to lose money fast… Raise to $12, miss and either cbet and get called or know you really can’t cbet. I also lost two big pots, one with a flush under a full house against a fish and another with trips under a flush to the same guy.

Anyway… I limp A7, there are a few limps and the fish from Hand 2 raises to $9. I call and four other calls.

Flop (52): 532

It checks to the preflop raiser and he bets $20. I figure I’ve got 15, maybe even 18 outs, so lets try to get it in. I raise to $70. He moves all-in and I snap call for $212 (he covers).

Turn ($476): T

River ($476): 5

I expect him to turn over a boat, but he says “I missed,” and I turn over my nut flush and scoop it. I guess he had a naked straight draw?

Session 1 Results: 3.75 hours, -$156

WSOP Satellite

Ever since I bubbled the other Main Event satellite and they cancelled the one the following week, I’ve been looking forward to this one. But, I never got anything going at all. I literally was never above the starting stack. I had two bad spewy aggros on my left, and a lot of loose-passive calling stations on my right. It’s a dream table when you’re making hands, or in cash where you can be patient. It’s a nightmare table when you are in a tournament and whiffing flops left and right, and that’s what happened. I shoved like 8bb with A8 and ran into AQ and good game, me. I railed Sequel for a bit, then headed back to the cash games while he texted me updates. I’ll let him tell his satellite story in his thread if he wants to instead of stealing any potential thunder.

Session 2

I got a couple of table changes before I got things going, but there was a table I had eyes on the whole time and finally after a long wait on the table change list I got onto it. All of these hands were at that table, I was basically between $250 and $350 from my $300 starting stack until the new table. Just running bad and grinding.

Hand No. 1 & 2

I wasn’t getting much going hand wise, so I was looking for spots. A tight Internet looking kid raised to $7 in EP and got a call. I looked down at J7 and decided to squeeze to $30. The EP player called, the other player folded. I forget the flop, but I cbet and took it down.

Then I limp A2. An old guy in LP raises to $7. He’s been opening to $10, so this feels week. The BB calls. I consider limp-raising, but I decide to just call.

Flop ($19): T42

It checks to the old guy who bets $12, again smaller than his usual bet sizing. I decide he has nothing and make it $35 and he quickly folds.

Just grinding away without making many hands…

Hand No. 3

I limp behind a couple fish with T9. A blind raises to $10 and a fish calls, then the other fish calls, I call as well.

Flop ($36): JT8

There’s a check and a fish running bad angrily bets $25. The other fish calls. We’re like $235 behind effective. The pot is now going to be at $110ish before my raise, but a pot-sized raise would be weirdly sized given stacks. A shove is too big of an overbet I think, and will scream draw. I decide whether I can raise smaller and call a shove. I don't want a shove, obviously, but raise/folding here is spew. I’m basically live against any range here… Against a set I’ve got a full straight draw, against two pair, same deal. Against a flush draw I’m ahead with the pair, and still have straight outs and have to fade clubs. The only hands that really put me in bad shape are like Q9 or 89. I decide to raise to $75, with plans to call a shove if they do. The angry guy tank folds and the other one folds as well, claiming he laid down two pair.

I don’t believe him, but hey, who knows.

Old Acquaintances

A couple of guys who I’ve played with before who know each other through playing together but don’t know each other “in real life,” are sitting on my left. They’re both solid so it works well. They aren’t good enough to play back at me, so I have like 1.5-2 effective buttons per round. We’re also chatting each other up, cracking jokes, trying to loosen the table up, but nobody else will even talk to us. We start joking about how nobody else will even speak. Soon, we’ll wish for more quiet neighbors.

”I relapsed on opiates, bro. But, you know, you learn from it.”

A guy sits down two to my right who I’ve played with before. He’s decent but kind of spewy and today he’s REALLY antsy. It turns out he bought 5 percent of his buddy who’s deep in the $1500 Monster Stack at the WSOP. First is like 1.3M, there are a few hundred people left, and this guy is already spending the $65,000.

He shows us a tweet of his buddy saying he has 1200 BBs, and I inform him that is highly unlikely and he later realizes it was a 12K BB, not his buddy has 12K big blinds. Thus, he has like 60BB. I chat him up and stay friendly, and he tells us that he’s so nervous he smoked weed then relapsed on opiates last night. He is basically en route to going out of his mind at our table.

I’m trying to tip toe that line of being the one bantering with him to keep him playing and donating (he’s like VPIPing 80% and raising 60%, but running hot), while not annoying anyone else too much. I figure if I talk to him, at least he’s not pestering others. He is walking frequently, so when he walks, I joke about him with my other neighbors, to try to stay in their good graces too.

Hustling is hard work, man.

So he starts singing… First it’s some pop song he doesn’t know the words to. Then he’s making up words about the 10 seat and inserting them. Next he’s standing up, yelling so the whole room can hear him about his buddy.

“LETS GO BABY! LETS GO! COME ON!”

Players at other tables are like, who the f*** is this dude standing up yelling who doesn’t have chips in a pot or cards in front of him?

Then he starts singing. “Vivvaaaaaa Las Vegas! I said Vivaaaaaa Las Vegas!”

He sits back down and a floor man is walking buy who I have chatted a bit with before. I jokingly call the floor and he turns from a few feet away, and I ask him if we can get a karaoke machine for the six seat. He laughs and says there’s a better chance of him getting to drink on the job. I tell him if he gets the karaoke machine, I’ll order a beer and give it to him. This all amuses our table.

The opiate relapse guy is wearing a green shirt and some of those neon green plastic sunglasses that look like a dollar store knockoff of Wayfarers. Like, who decided those were cool? They look so ridiculous. He offers to massage a player in the 10 seat and another player jokingly calls him gay. He’s going back and forth with that guy and I say, “Must be the sunglasses!”

He takes slight offense, then says he got them for free at Electric Daisy Carnival or whatever it is. I then divert the conversation to his musical taste and he’s happy again.

Then he goes walking for a long time.

Hand No. 4

Again I’m not picking up any cards at a fishy table, so I’m looking for spots and they’re few and far between. There’s a raise to $8 and a call and I’m in the SB with JT. Based on bet sizing I decide this is a good squeeze spot. I make it $30. The BB who’s TAG and is one of the acquaintances from above makes it $65 and it folds to me.

Now, he thinks I’m solid and has said as much. He’s mentioned I never put a lot of chips in bad. I’d typically give him a 3B range of like KK+, AK and maybe half his QQ hands, but I do think it’s a little bigger since I’ve 3B and squeezed a few times over small opens.

I decide it’s like JJ+ (obviously missing some combos) and AK, maybe AQ occasionally. It’s still a narrow range, I know how he plays, he thinks I’m solid, etc. He’s got about $200 behind. Based on pot odds and a number of other factors I can discuss when people tell me how spewy I am, I call.

Flop ($141): AT7

This is a great flop for me. I pick up a little equity vs. KK/QQ, which are now his most likely hands. I can check-raise him based on my read of his c-bet sizing and I’ve got some equity if called. He checks back, though, which he’s like NEVER doing with AK.

Turn ($141): A

Terrible card for me, because now it’s harder to have an A. Still, I know he doesn’t have one. I decide to bet $80, which gives me room to shove the river. He tanks and reaches for his cards to fold, looks at them again (those KK/QQ look so pretty, don’t they dude?) and calls.

River ($301): 7

Also a bad card. I’m repping really thin now, but he’s obviously going to put me on AK/AQ/AJ if I shove, and given the image he has of me, and his ability to fold, I think he’s going to muck this a lot. I stack up my chips and slide them out.

He gives a speech about how bad he runs, then says maybe he’s good, maybe I have QQ. Oh boy, don’t talk yourself into a crying call dude. He says, “Take it. See?” and shows me KK. I nod, as I drag a huge pot.

He asks what I had and I shrug, and let him guess a bit, and give him a nod when he says AK. He then analyzes the hand all the way through while I listen and give him the occasional nod, or mmhmm, and he says he should have folded the turn. I agree with him, and give him some bad, standard advice, like “What are you gonna do? The A always comes. Your turn call probably isn’t too bad, because if I am bluffing with QQ or something I’m like never betting that river obviously.”

“Right, you’re never doing that without the A,” he says.

“Exactly,” I tell him. “Good laydown man, they’re tough to throw away.”

A Tranquilizer Gun

After another round of about 45-60 minutes of annoying opiate-fueled chaos, the guy takes a walk again. The kid has been standing up, sitting down, standing up, sitting down, bouncing in his chair. It feels like sitting next to a five year old at a catholic mass. He’s also being REALLY loud. The same floor walks past and I tell him instead of a karaoke machine, we’d like a tranquilizer gun. He laughs and says he wishes and I tell him, alternatively, 9 pairs of ear plugs could do. “No wait, on second thought, I think your dealer might appreciate a 10th.”

A couple people at the table make tranquilizer gun jokes over the next few minutes or so…

The guy returns and again gives us annoying play-by-play and analysis of his buddy’s deep run. He’s talking about how he’s going to book a flight to Vegas to rail the final table, and how if that happens before he leaves he’s going to rip his shirt off and run around the Borgata poker room. The play-by-play is all hypothetical too, because he hasn’t gotten a text back in a while and Poker News hasn’t updated. “I bet he’s sitting tight. Premium hands, man. That’s the smart thing to do. No need to get involved. I wouldn’t! And this guy is good, he’s good man. He’s like really good, real good. I think I’m pretty good, I’m just not playing well today, but like he’s the only player I’ve ever met who I think is actually better than me.”

”Am I a bad person?”

He goes for a walk and I turn to my neighbors. “Yup, it’s like (as I hold my hand up high) his buddy, (a little lower) him, (a lot lower) and Phil Ivey, Doyle Brunson and Johnny Chan.”

Everyone laughs. “I’m such a bad person, but I’m actually kind of secretly hoping his buddy busts out while he’s still at the table here. Nothing against the guy, but I want to see the meltdown here. This guy is just going to crumble if his buddy busts out. Am I a bad person?”

Everyone assures me that I’m not THAT bad of a person, and it would be pretty funny.

He comes back and his friend still has 495K according to PokerNews, which he’s had for like 3 hours in their chip count. He starts analyzing, “He’s just treading water… He’s so good. He’s probably like stealing once an orbit, then losing it back to the blinds… Or maybe like, steal once, lose the blinds, steal twice, loose the blinds, then don’t steal, lose the blinds, then steal like 3 times, lose the blinds twice, gain a little. You have to time that stuff.”

“Or, they just haven’t updated his chip count on PokerNews because he’s not famous,” I tell him.

He then pulls up his buddy’s Twitter, and sees some tweet about his strategy and shows it to me. I scroll down a bit, and my eyes light up.

Me: “Sorry man, but I’ve got some bad news for you.”

Opiate Guy: “No!”

Me: “Sorry man…”

I peak to my left and my neighbors are smirking and trying not to literally laugh out loud as I slide his phone back to him and he sees his friend’s tweet from like two hours ago that he busted when he shoved 16.5 BB as a resteal over the CO with AJ and ran into KK. He puts his head in his hands and crumples face down onto the felt.

Now opiate guy starts analyzing whether or not his friend could have gotten away from it instead of re-stealing. I let him go for a while, and he’s like maybe if he had like 25 BB, or like 23 BB. I simply can’t help myself.

Me: “Maybe if he had been following your strategy, you know, steal once, lose the blinds, steal twice, lose the blinds, he would have chipped up to like 21.5 BB and been able to get away from it.”

Opiate guy: “Oh s***, you’re right. Man, I wish I could have been helping him with that. He probably could have avoided it then. Oh man this is painful, 65K man, I would’ve had 65K!”

He walks away and the guy on my left says, “You enjoyed that a lot didn’t you.”

“Could you tell?” I ask, with a laugh.

Yeah, I’m a horrible person, but he was being so annoying about it I just couldn’t resist. I hope his buddy goes on a sick run and ships a huge tourney next time he’s deep, assuming he’s a cool dude. I’m sending him some makeup rungood vibes now.

Session 2 Result: 7 hours, + $232

I’m really, really proud of that result. I made something out of nothing. If I had lost like $100 in this session, given the cards and the action, I would have had a great session. I had to grind HARD to win some money and it made it a +$700 trip and I think has my bankroll back over 5K (will check tomorrow), which feels like an important psychological barrier.

It made it a +$700 trip in like 15 hours.
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06-29-2014 , 10:16 PM
I admire the effort that you put into the hand analysis that you post in your PGC. Nevertheless, I think you will have more success as a live pro if you stop spending so much time writing giant walls of text.

Grind more volume and post more condensed updates.
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06-29-2014 , 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ATsai
I admire the effort that you put into the hand analysis that you post in your PGC. Nevertheless, I think you will have more success as a live pro if you stop spending so much time writing giant walls of text.

Grind more volume and post more condensed updates.
This is good advice... I was actually thinking about it recently and I'm trying to minimize the posting while I'm out in AC and just rely on my notes, then type it up when I'm back in Delaware on a day I won't be able to play anyway (like today). Although, it could still be study time or something.

Usually the only time I type stuff up at the casino is while I'm eating a meal in the cafeteria or in the hour or so winding down before bed... Yours is one of two or three threads I'm just starting to catch up on from the start in my downtime at my broadcasting job so I don't know off hand - how often do you write up sessions and update your thread?
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06-29-2014 , 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by ATsai
I admire the effort that you put into the hand analysis that you post in your PGC. Nevertheless, I think you will have more success as a live pro if you stop spending so much time writing giant walls of text.

Grind more volume and post more condensed updates.
I enjoy his walls of text.
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06-29-2014 , 10:44 PM
He effort you put into the banter stuff is odd as well. Not bad, just odd. It sounds like you are a bit proud of some sort of table domination, is that true? Is that part of your game?
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06-29-2014 , 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Jihad2
He effort you put into the banter stuff is odd as well. Not bad, just odd. It sounds like you are a bit proud of some sort of table domination, is that true? Is that part of your game?
His banter stuff isn't odd. It's awesome.
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06-30-2014 , 12:22 AM
One of the few posters that posts well-written, enjoyable, detailed session/trip reports, and people are telling him to stop.

True, these writeups must take a while, but it also allows him the opportunity to review, analyze, and catalog the info for future reference. That will surely pay dividends. And it provides the rest of us with invaluable entertainment in the meantime.

As a person who has played through these limits, I believe I would've learned and progressed at twice the speed if I would've put in such a deliberate effort to writeup session reports.

Yes, perhaps he could wait till he gets back home to do the writeups, but then there is also the risk of it becoming an overwhelming amount to review/type...maybe a balance of writing up half on trip/half afterwards would work?
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06-30-2014 , 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Pushaholic
One of the few posters that posts well-written, enjoyable, detailed session/trip reports, and people are telling him to stop.

True, these writeups must take a while, but it also allows him the opportunity to review, analyze, and catalog the info for future reference. That will surely pay dividends. And it provides us invaluable entertainment in the meantime.

As a person who has played through these limits, I believe I would've learned and progressed at twice the speed if I would've put in such a deliberate effort to writeup session reports.

Yes, perhaps he could wait till he gets back home, but then there is also the risk of it becoming an overwhelming amount to review/type...maybe a balance of writing up half on trip/half afterwards would work?
Nobody wants him to stop. Don't take any of ATsai's posts seriously.
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06-30-2014 , 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Jihad2
He effort you put into the banter stuff is odd as well. Not bad, just odd. It sounds like you are a bit proud of some sort of table domination, is that true? Is that part of your game?
This a rhetorical technique that is part of an experienced writing style (as taught in any advanced English course). It prevents the material from becoming too dry from being only fact-oriented. It is also one of the best parts of this thread.
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06-30-2014 , 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Duke0424
Nobody wants him to stop. Don't take any of ATsai's posts seriously.
Oh lol; maybe they're friends

I was able to tell that from your posts, but didn't quite catch it here.
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06-30-2014 , 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Pushaholic
Oh lol; maybe they're friends

I was able to tell that from your posts, but didn't quite catch it here.
They're not friends lol
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06-30-2014 , 04:11 AM
subbed, awesome thread
I feel like we could literally swap itunes playlists for a couple week w/o missing a beat..
The writing style makes your write-ups captivating and engaging, hell nah to condensing...
and yes yes ... lol you are a terrible human being fwiw, but I thoroughly enjoy your table banter/level don't change Gl Keep it up!
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06-30-2014 , 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Duke0424
Nobody wants him to stop. Don't take any of ATsai's posts seriously.
Duke, no offense but please keep any issues you have with ATsai out of this thread. I know you guys had your falling out, and I advised you to keep it off the forums in general, but definitely keep it out of my thread. Obviously you're one of my friends on here I talk to the most and we post in each other's threads a lot, which is great and valuable, but the last thing I want is anyone on here doing anything in my thread that might cause anyone else to be less interested in offering me advice and such.

It doesn't bother me at all when you give me s*** in here or troll me a little cause we're friends, or when anyone trolls someone who's just trolling the thread, but I don't want anyone in here starting/continuing stuff with innocent third parties.
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06-30-2014 , 06:41 AM
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Duke, no offense but please keep any issues you have with ATsai out of this thread. I know you guys had your falling out, and I advised you to keep it off the forums in general, but definitely keep it out of my thread. Obviously you're one of my friends on here I talk to the most and we post in each other's threads a lot, which is great and valuable, but the last thing I want is anyone on here doing anything in my thread that might cause anyone else to be less interested in offering me advice and such.

It doesn't bother me at all when you give me s*** in here or troll me a little cause we're friends, or when anyone trolls someone who's just trolling the thread, but I don't want anyone in here starting/continuing stuff with innocent third parties.
Well said.
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06-30-2014 , 06:47 AM
To be clear, my comment wasn't to encourage cuse to stop.
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06-30-2014 , 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by All-inMcLovin
I enjoy his walls of text.
Thanks man!

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Originally Posted by Jihad2
He effort you put into the banter stuff is odd as well. Not bad, just odd. It sounds like you are a bit proud of some sort of table domination, is that true? Is that part of your game?
I wouldn't call my banter "table domination," by any stretch. I'm not playing table captain, or not trying to at least in the traditional sense, I'm trying to keep everyone loose and friendly. If they're having fun, the game is more profitable.

As for the effort putting it into this thread, I think it's part of what makes my thread different and entertaining. Anyone can post five hands per session or whatever, and that's all well and good... But part of what makes live threads fun is the characters we run into and the funny stories. Turning "Hero" and "Villain" into a more literary sense of heros and foils/villains, and also adding some humor.

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Originally Posted by All-inMcLovin
His banter stuff isn't odd. It's awesome.
Thanks! Glad some of you enjoy it.

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Originally Posted by Pushaholic
One of the few posters that posts well-written, enjoyable, detailed session/trip reports, and people are telling him to stop.

True, these writeups must take a while, but it also allows him the opportunity to review, analyze, and catalog the info for future reference. That will surely pay dividends. And it provides the rest of us with invaluable entertainment in the meantime.

As a person who has played through these limits, I believe I would've learned and progressed at twice the speed if I would've put in such a deliberate effort to writeup session reports.

Yes, perhaps he could wait till he gets back home to do the writeups, but then there is also the risk of it becoming an overwhelming amount to review/type...maybe a balance of writing up half on trip/half afterwards would work?
They probably don't take as long as people think, because I write fast and type fast, but obviously they take longer than shorter posts would. I may start including less detail on obvious hands that are included for results reasons only (aka, how'd you end up with 1K in your stack and not post any of those hands?).

Cataloging the info is definitely valuable. I've pulled this thread up at the table and searched it to find a hand I played against a villain who happens to be at my table again. So is keeping everyone entertained so you guys are always checking back, which means you're here to give me a little boost when I'm running bad and to give me some thoughts on hands, etc.

I'm going to try to minimize what I do while I'm at the casino, but still not leave more than like two session reports behind. I do still need to type up the full story of my WSOP satellite close call, for example. I would have loved to do it the next day with no advance results, so you could all ride the emotional roller coaster vicariously, but I had to get volume in. I may add extra notes on players' appearances to help trigger my memory more when I'm a little behind.

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Originally Posted by Pushaholic
This a rhetorical technique that is part of an experienced writing style (as taught in any advanced English course). It prevents the material from becoming too dry from being only fact-oriented. It is also one of the best parts of this thread.
Exactly. I think there are three things that make my thread unique. My stories/writing style, my looser playing style than the average 2p2er and trying to make it in poker without taking any huge risks bankroll wise and all... Proof that you can take your shot without risking TOO much.

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Originally Posted by GuessWhat21
subbed, awesome thread
I feel like we could literally swap itunes playlists for a couple week w/o missing a beat..
The writing style makes your write-ups captivating and engaging, hell nah to condensing...
and yes yes ... lol you are a terrible human being fwiw, but I thoroughly enjoy your table banter/level don't change Gl Keep it up!
Thanks man! We probably could, but every now and then listening to mine you'd definitely have a WTF moment. I have a little bit of an eccentric iTunes library haha. But the music in here is most of my favorite stuff, which also really applies well to poker.
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06-30-2014 , 08:10 AM
The Prop Bet – “Friend or foe, yo, state your biz. / Hmm, you tend to dough, ah, there it is. / Me, I run the show, oh and these kids, / don’t like nobody coming around here f***ing with they dough for s***. / You enterprising, though, and I like ya, / but f*** with the big dog, yo, I gotta bite you. / Look, it’s outta my hands, and you getting money ‘round here, it’s not in the plans.”



So I was on the way home from the Borgata real late Saturday night/Sunday morning, and I had texted Duke about the JT hand I bluffed with. I’ve been showing him a bunch of my bluffs trying to get him to bluff more after the conversation in his thread. He thinks the preflop play is spew, and I think it’s marginally +EV. Then the following transpires.

Me: “Also I’m willing to make a slightly losing play for metagame. If I 3bet to $30 and fold to $65 that looks really bad, and if my hand gets to showdown he’s never gonna forget it. It could pay dividends in 4 months.”

Duke: “You’re a nut. Play me hu."

Me: ”So most would think it’s spew but I think it’s very marginal and I’m not gonna shy away from marginal spots when I’m way the better player than the villain.”

Duke: “Win rate prop bet right now for 1/2 and 2/5 you nut, next 1K hours.”

Me: “Snap call the prop bet.”

The Terms

It’s a $500 prop bet.

We both play 1,000 hours and compare winrates in BB/hr from 1/2 and 2/5, and we’re going to agree on something to offset the different rakes at different venues and the lower degree rake impacts winrates at 2/5 vs. 1/2. If either of us goes busto on our current rolls, the other guy wins the bet. If either roll drops below 2K, the bet amount goes into escrow. Right now I have 5K, and Duke I don’t know if you want your bankroll put up here, so I’ll just share that his bankroll is bigger than mine but not prohibitively.

There’s also a humiliation bet attached. The loser has to put their rival school’s logo in their avatar on TwoPlusTwo for a month, and dress up in their rival school’s attire for a session at the Borgata.

We’ll update our stats in our threads and track sessions, and we’ll keep it in our apps on our phones.

If it’s within .5bb/hr, we’ll call it a tie and settle it with a tiebreaker. I proposed a heads up sit and go, but Duke thinks I have too much heads up edge from past experience. Thus, it’ll be a three part, best-of-3 tiebreaker bordering on the absurd and sure to become legendary if it happens:

1. Heads up Sit and Go – We’ll do it live, probably in a hotel room at Borgata or something with some friends hanging out watching.

2. Basketball One on One – This is what Duke said he preferred to the HUSNG, so we’ll find a court and play half court 1 on 1.

3. A Drinking Game – Probably beer pong, but I’m open to any ideas that may be better.

The Trash Talk



Duke said he thinks these are good for getting in volume and playing your A game. We’ll see – that’ll be interesting for me to notice since this is my first prop bet. I don’t really subscribe to that style of motivation, personally, but more power to anyone who does. But, I’m not in the business of making –EV bets, so no disrespect to Duke, but obviously I think I’m +EV here. I think I’ve got edge from experience and playing style.

I considered not taking the bet because I didn’t want to take a friend’s money, and if I’d have proposed it and baited him I’d feel like I hustled him into a really bad bet, but he challenged me and stepped in it so it’s on him.

Hopefully we both have solid winning stretches and mine is just bigger, because I don’t want the $500 to hurt your roll too much when you pay up, Duke. I’m already visualizing you counting out that beautiful five hundo rocking some orange ‘Cuse gear and hanging your embarrassed Blue Devil head when you pay up.

He thinks he’s gonna get me all dressed up in ridiculous, ugly, Duke gear and needle me. Not a chance, buddy. Never happening. I’m going to sit at your table and taunt you all session long when you’re rocking that beautiful orange. It’s going to be so sweet. I’m going to find the dealer who’s a Syracuse fan and get him to needle you too.

I’ll let you out right now for $499.99... You should consider it.

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06-30-2014 , 08:53 AM
Hahaha love it! I don't know who i'm gonna root for yet!
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06-30-2014 , 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Varx
Hahaha love it! I don't know who i'm gonna root for yet!
I see how it is!

For anyone booking side action, I think the line is like...

Cuserounder -800
Duke0424 +700
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06-30-2014 , 09:45 AM
Sounds cool. I didn't know Duke went to Duke.
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06-30-2014 , 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by All-inMcLovin
Sounds cool. I didn't know Duke went to Duke.
I may be wrong here, but I'm pretty sure he went there for a couple years to study engineering or something.
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06-30-2014 , 10:07 AM
I thought he didn't attend Duke at all. Anyway, how am I not already subscribed to this thread?

Prop bet question: Are tips just a wash/built into win rate? Or are you guys gonna stiff all your dealers for the next 1000 hours to artificially improve your wr at the margins?
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06-30-2014 , 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by ATsai
I admire the effort that you put into the hand analysis that you post in your PGC. Nevertheless, I think you will have more success as a live pro if you stop spending so much time writing giant walls of text.

Grind more volume and post more condensed updates.
I don't necessarily disagree unless he feels that he is getting something out of rehashing the hands, thinking about villains hand ranges, how his image affects certain lines, etc. If it is simply a way to document big pots or w/e then ya it's probably a waste of time.
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