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2013 for z0mgtiltz : 0k+ and hitting 5kNL+ 2013 for z0mgtiltz : 0k+ and hitting 5kNL+

12-27-2012 , 08:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Blonde
I've always been very serious mate but doubt it's worth your while these days Nice fold seems like a well played hand all around. Any reason for the smallish overbet compared to other sizes?
Just wanna be able to threaten their stacks with a river bet.

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Originally Posted by ProfesorKaos
see thats insane i would never fold 33 there because I don't understand why people play 66 that way.

do you put 55/99 in BB range?

I always say, they would have raise flop with sets, so its 89 or a draw, I mean i might be slightly worried about UTG since 89s got there but are you putting 66/55/99 in their range too?

what if BB raises turn and UTG folds?
Uh. Can't take those out of their range, nope.

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Originally Posted by blakkman08
if both villains are thinking players turn is a fold forsure especially vs our donk,donkoverbet line. all 3 sets and the str8 are possible (55 being the only hand that can be somewhat discounted) and our line basically means 2pair+ if we bet turn again into two people (obv some draws as well but our valuerange is 65+++++)

i think i prefer as slightly bigger overbet tbh but not sure it makes any difference
If I overbet turn bigger it'll make the pot a lot bigger than I'd want it to be. I'll be overbetting draws here some % of the time and don't think that I'd wanna bloat it up to the point where I don't have FE on the river.

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Originally Posted by coopah




As a whole, the zoom player pool is ******ed.
Found these gems all within 6.6 minutes of 8 tabling Zoom.

Spoiler:
Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $5(BB) Replayer
SB ($527)
BB ($515)
UTG ($521)
UTG+1 ($389)
Hero ($584)
BTN ($1,143)

Dealt to Hero 7 7

fold, fold, Hero raises to $12.50, fold, SB calls $10, BB calls $7.50

FLOP ($37.50) 4 J 7

SB bets $24, BB folds, Hero raises to $70, SB raises to $116, Hero calls $46

TURN ($269) 4 J 7 2

SB checks, Hero bets $85, SB raises to $399 (AI), Hero calls $314

RIVER ($1,067) 4 J 7 2 5

SB shows A J
(Pre 48%, Flop 29.8%, Turn 18.2%)

Hero shows 7 7
(Pre 52%, Flop 70.2%, Turn 81.8%)

Hero wins $1,064

More of a "cooler" but not really.


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Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $2(BB) Replayer
SB ($199)
BB ($138)
Hero ($216)
UTG+1 ($746)
CO ($435)
BTN ($122)

Dealt to Hero Q A

Hero raises to $5, fold, fold, BTN calls $5, SB calls $4, fold

FLOP ($17) J K T

SB checks, Hero bets $12, BTN calls $12, SB raises to $42, Hero raises to $90, BTN folds, SB raises to $194 (AI), Hero calls $104

TURN ($418) J K T 2

RIVER ($418) J K T 2 4

SB shows J 4
(Pre 34%, Flop 39.4%, Turn 20.5%)

Hero shows Q A
(Pre 66%, Flop 60.6%, Turn 79.5%)

Hero wins $415

Flat J4s from the SB, oh so standard.


And winner of the Zoom's Greatest Plays award:

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Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $5(BB) Replayer
SB ($2,685)
BB ($500)
UTG ($142)
Hero ($567)
CO ($628)
BTN ($625)

Dealt to Hero A A

fold, Hero raises to $12.50, fold, BTN raises to $40, fold, fold, Hero raises to $90, BTN calls $50

FLOP ($187) 9 6 2

Hero bets $52.50, BTN calls $52.50

TURN ($292) 9 6 2 3

Hero bets $72.50, BTN raises to $482 (AI), Hero calls $352 (AI)

RIVER ($1,141) 9 6 2 3 J

BTN shows K J
(Pre 13%, Flop 3.1%, Turn 0.0%)

Hero shows A A
(Pre 87%, Flop 96.9%, Turn 100.0%)

Hero wins $1,139

I just have to tip my hat off to this guy. Good show, old chap.
2013 for z0mgtiltz : 0k+ and hitting 5kNL+ Quote
12-27-2012 , 09:09 PM
As for why I'm playing 8 tables of Zoom it's cus:

1) It's late
2) I suck and keep getting valueowned by Mr. Scout at 2kNL

But no worries cause I run good 200bb+ deep.

Spoiler:
Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $20(BB) Replayer
Hero ($4,906)
BB ($5,748)
UTG ($3,367)
UTG+1 ($6,252)
CO ($3,257)
BTN ($3,479)

Hero antes $4
BB antes $4
UTG antes $4
UTG+1 antes $4
CO antes $4
BTN antes $4

Dealt to Hero A A

fold, UTG+1 raises to $60, fold, BTN raises to $200, Hero raises to $580, BB raises to $1,000, fold, fold, Hero raises to $4,902 (AI), BB calls $3,902

FLOP ($10,088) T 7 4

TURN ($10,088) T 7 4 5

RIVER ($10,088) T 7 4 5 J

Hero shows A A
(Pre 83%, Flop 91.6%, Turn 95.5%)

BB shows K K
(Pre 17%, Flop 8.4%, Turn 4.5%)

Hero wins $10,085

Must've literally tanked for 50seconds in this spot. 3 different options to do here but went with the non-fancy line since I didn't think he'd be getting out of line given gameflow.


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Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $20(BB) Replayer
SB ($8,141)
Hero ($4,996)
UTG ($3,445)
UTG+1 ($3,101)
CO ($3,754)
BTN ($4,194)

CO antes $4
BTN antes $4
SB antes $4
Hero antes $4
UTG antes $4
UTG+1 antes $4

Dealt to Hero Q A

fold, fold, CO raises to $60, fold, SB calls $50, Hero raises to $280, CO calls $220, SB calls $220

FLOP ($864) 2 9 Q

SB checks, Hero bets $420, CO raises to $1,140, SB folds, Hero calls $720

TURN ($3,144) 2 9 Q 5

Hero checks, CO bets $2,330 (AI), Hero calls $2,330

RIVER ($7,804) 2 9 Q 5 K

CO shows 9 J
(Pre 40%, Flop 51.9%, Turn 31.8%)

Hero shows Q A
(Pre 61%, Flop 48.1%, Turn 68.2%)

Hero wins $7,801

I *just* topped up to $5k the hand before, which is the sick bit.




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And yet I'm only +$3k today, $4k above EV. :\
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12-27-2012 , 09:45 PM
Why are those pair+fd hands so ******ed, other than maybe bet sizing in hand 1 AJcc?
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12-27-2012 , 09:49 PM
AJcc: He's better off x/c turn. If I'm valuebetting, he's behind. If I'm bluffing, his equity is monstrous && I bluff on cards that hit him.

J4ss: It's a ridiculously bad flat pre.

J9dd: Is obviously wp.
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12-27-2012 , 11:58 PM
why is j9s played well
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12-28-2012 , 12:02 AM
He's at least 50% vs all my continuing range besides QQ.
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12-28-2012 , 01:05 AM
why not check turn on his part?
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12-28-2012 , 01:27 AM
Part of his gameplan with his range I'd assume
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12-28-2012 , 03:04 AM
your so awesome tiltz, one day we will get to play together.
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12-28-2012 , 01:09 PM
cool
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12-28-2012 , 10:44 PM
Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $20(BB) Replayer
SB ($6,959)
BB ($8,210)
Hero ($4,337)

Dealt to Hero A A

Hero raises to $40, SB raises to $160, fold, Hero raises to $360, SB calls $200

FLOP ($749) 8 7 K

SB checks, Hero bets $350, SB calls $350

TURN ($1,449) 8 7 K 3

SB checks, Hero bets $820, SB raises to $3,816, Hero calls $2,804 (AI)

RIVER ($8,697) 8 7 K 3 8

SB shows 9 Q
(Pre 18%, Flop 34.0%, Turn 18.2%)

Hero shows A A
(Pre 82%, Flop 66.0%, Turn 81.8%)

SB wins $4,348
Hero wins $4,348


That's the first board. 2nd river was 4 cause I forgot I had run it twice on. I feel robbed.
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12-28-2012 , 10:47 PM
just railed you at 2knl, seen some guy bluff you with 97o on AQKxx lol

nh
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12-28-2012 , 11:07 PM
he showed?
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12-28-2012 , 11:13 PM
no i shud have said tried to bluff lol
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12-29-2012 , 03:22 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ProfesorKaos
just railed you at 2knl, seen some guy bluff you with 97o on AQKxx lol

nh
Quote:
Originally Posted by OMGClayDol
he showed?
Quote:
Originally Posted by ProfesorKaos
no i shud have said tried to bluff lol
Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $20(BB) Replayer
SB ($4,342)
Hero ($4,834)
CO ($2,921)
BTN ($3,991)

BTN antes $4
SB antes $4
Hero antes $4
CO antes $4

Dealt to Hero A 6

fold, BTN raises to $40, fold, Hero calls $20

FLOP ($106) K Q A

Hero checks, BTN bets $60, Hero calls $60

TURN ($226) K Q A 3

Hero checks, BTN bets $160, Hero calls $160

RIVER ($546) K Q A 3 5

Hero checks, BTN bets $380, Hero calls $380

BTN shows 7 9
(Pre 40%, Flop 6.8%, Turn 0.0%)

Hero shows A 6
(Pre 60%, Flop 93.2%, Turn 100.0%)

Hero wins $1,304
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12-29-2012 , 03:28 AM




My 2012 winnings, give or take about $20k-$40k or so cause I lost my database. Decent year for me, though when you compare it to some other beasts this is a bit poor.

Nevertheless, 2012 was the year I first shot-took at 1kNL and 2kNL, and I feel although 1kNL was off to a rocky start, it's all going pretty good now. I took *multiple* shots at 1kNL before I could establish myself as a winning reg there. It took 100k hands before I was in the green. So you guys who are moving up and not seeming to win, don't give up hope.

2kNL took me 2 shots. The first shot, I was 20k below EV and lost 18k hah. Took me a few months before I could shot-take 2kNL again.


Biggest pot I lost in 2012:

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $50(BB) Replayer
SB ($5,322)
BB ($8,400)
UTG ($7,150)
UTG+1 ($2,438)
Hero ($6,881)
BTN ($10,822)

Dealt to Hero A A

fold, fold, Hero raises to $125, BTN raises to $425, fold, fold, Hero raises to $925, BTN calls $500

FLOP ($1,925) 3 K 9

Hero bets $775, BTN calls $775

TURN ($3,475) 3 K 9 J

Hero bets $5,181 (AI), BTN calls $5,181

RIVER ($13,838) 3 K 9 J 8

BTN shows J J
(Pre 20%, Flop 14.3%, Turn 95.5%)

Hero shows A A
(Pre 80%, Flop 85.7%, Turn 4.5%)

BTN wins $13,835


Sadface.


My biggest pot won was posted earlier in this thread, 250bb AA vs KK at 2kNL. Hopefully I'll be able to get into some bigger pots in 2013! (And with luck, they'll be shipping my way haha)


GL everyone, have a happy new year and a good start to 2013!
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12-29-2012 , 04:13 AM
Yeah man Its Andy Lee
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12-29-2012 , 04:16 AM
Beast. Sick sick year man, big congrats! I remember watching your vid almost one full year ago? You ve certainly come a long way bro. Glglgl in 2013
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12-29-2012 , 04:22 AM
brutal 300k b/e stretch in the beginning. im going through that right now, prob 150k in. ur playing mid/high stakes so i understand a player like you can go through that stretch. but im playing friggin micros so im probably doing something wrong? i use to tilt like a crazy mofo, but recently it has gotten a lot better. i keep telling myself im gunna get out of it, but everytime i hit a small upswing, i just get crushed the next day and it seems hopeless. did you question your play during that b/e stretch? can variance be this brutal?
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12-29-2012 , 04:31 AM
sick year teddy, gl and make 1 mirrion for next year
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12-29-2012 , 06:11 AM
Sick, gl
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12-29-2012 , 09:05 AM
gratz, sick year . Cant see any pooraments here
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12-29-2012 , 02:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by blakkman08
Beast. Sick sick year man, big congrats! I remember watching your vid almost one full year ago? You ve certainly come a long way bro. Glglgl in 2013
Quote:
Originally Posted by alextrev1111
sick year teddy, gl and make 1 mirrion for next year
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Originally Posted by DanteA
Sick, gl
Quote:
Originally Posted by K.O.M
gratz, sick year . Cant see any pooraments here
Thanks!

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Originally Posted by Number1Hater
brutal 300k b/e stretch in the beginning. im going through that right now, prob 150k in. ur playing mid/high stakes so i understand a player like you can go through that stretch. but im playing friggin micros so im probably doing something wrong? i use to tilt like a crazy mofo, but recently it has gotten a lot better. i keep telling myself im gunna get out of it, but everytime i hit a small upswing, i just get crushed the next day and it seems hopeless. did you question your play during that b/e stretch? can variance be this brutal?
Eh, it wasn't so much of a 300k b/e stretch as much as me playing bad vs regulars since I wasn't so used to 1kNL.

Yah you prob have a bunch of leaks tbh, would have other winning players at my limit take a look at my hands if I were in your shoes. And take heed of what they say and make notes.

Obv everyone questions their own plays when they've been breaking even for such a long time.

Variance can be very harsh indeed but rather than chalk it up to variance, I think that someone that has been breaking even for a long time definitely *should* be looking for reasons that they're playing bad and try to tweak their game.




Good news. I have some free time at maybe 9pm today so might try making a quick video at Zoom. Was going to make it playing a table each of 50nl-200nl. Thoughts or other preferences to limits you'd rather see me playing? Will not play MSNL.
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12-29-2012 , 03:06 PM
play 4 tables of 50nl!
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12-29-2012 , 03:10 PM
No limit preference but just get really out of line so we can see some tough spots.
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