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2011, Onwards and upwards: 2-100nl, YouFaiil continues the grind! 2011, Onwards and upwards: 2-100nl, YouFaiil continues the grind!

09-01-2010 , 12:22 PM
Session: 896 hands, $+1.68, WR: 9.3/100

BR: $38.01


@ architect, will reply when i have more time, just updating before going out.

Hope things are going well.
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09-02-2010 , 03:28 AM
@ArchitectPro: Multi-tabling: I understand this but i think at 2nl if you can play a decent TAG style to beat the limit and then develop on this as you move up to 5/10nl. The reason being for 6-12(9-12) tabling is i just want to get to 5nl, I think spending ages at 2nl playing 4-6 tables is a waste of time and it doesnt require a huge amount of skill to beat, just more volume and patience. If I start to put in a lot of losing sessions then ill drop down in tables and study/analyze more.

Since I started playing more tables, my BR: has taken a much bigger boost including the rakeback. I have $4 from last week and $3 already this weak. Of course I understand that rakeback should just be a bonus and that I should win more at the tables.

1) Looked back through the HH, can see now, he can do this a lot with Kx, but i think we both agree i was right to fold and i was beat.

2) Sure and generally at 2nl, if there repping it, they have it, would you agree? I dont post stats as im currently HUD-less, ive gone through both HEM and PT3 trials, HEM is on the to-buy list as soon as i find work which really shouldnt be too long.

3)Yep it certainly is, as long as i played it ok, my money was in ahead so its +EV.

I noticed this as well in a session yesterday, I think multi-tabling can help this in that you aim to play tighter and IP more because you know being in a lots of hands on 9 tables isn't ideal, so you aim to avoid tough spots and play in those that are more +EV.

I was also thinking about WR a while back and winning 1 BI over 1k hands is still a WR of 10/100 which is great for 2nl and just playing tight/patient can easily achieve this. You don't need to desperately find a tough spot and make a hero call, its just patience.

Ty for the wishes, i saw you had a thread a day or two ago, 2-10nl in a month is an amazing achievement, i think ill drop by on your thread soon, Im getting closer to 5nl, started with $25.44, now at $38.01 with $7 rakeback to come and the rest of the week to earn more.

Thanks for replying, hope to see you here again, GL!
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09-02-2010 , 05:02 AM
Full Tilt Poker $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

SB: $2.03
BB: $2.81
UTG: $2.17
CO: $2.91
Hero (BTN): $2.08

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is BTN with K K
1 fold, CO raises to $0.06, Hero raises to $0.20, 1 fold, BB calls $0.18, CO calls $0.14

Flop: ($0.61) 5 4 5 (3 players)
BB checks, CO checks, Hero bets $0.38, BB raises to $0.76, CO folds, Hero raises to $1.88 all in, BB calls $1.12

Turn: ($4.37) 6 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($4.37) 3 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Spoiler:
A5


Anyone find a fold a fold here? With a flat pre im thinking PP's TT/JJ/QQ/, its hard to see any 5's here, i thought about 44 but wasnt sure. Any feedback appreicated as always.
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09-02-2010 , 06:17 AM
Session: 1373 hands, $+6.50, WR: 23.6/100

BR: $44:51


Quite a few close spots, with overpairs ran into a lot of 34o flopping 2 pair only to save me on the river. I had set vs set 1/2 times, me on the good side .

However when i saw these hands, it was their mistake, I raised KK utg, BB called with 34o to flop 2 pair, i turned a K then the money went in.

Another hand, I 3bet a MP/CO raiser with QQ, he flatted with 44 and we both flopped sets.

So yeah I think variance wise, it could have been a big downswing, but play wise, im happy.

Im thinking that maybe another 2/3 weeks and I should hit 5nl, just an estimate but I'm sure I can do it.

Since I started recording again, i've played 10801 hands, $+9.42, WR: 4.3/100.
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09-02-2010 , 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by YouFaiil
@ArchitectPro: Multi-tabling: I understand this but i think at 2nl if you can play a decent TAG style to beat the limit and then develop on this as you move up to 5/10nl. The reason being for 6-12(9-12) tabling is i just want to get to 5nl, I think spending ages at 2nl playing 4-6 tables is a waste of time and it doesnt require a huge amount of skill to beat, just more volume and patience.
I 100 percent agree with you but as you move up in stake your going to notice that once you start concentrating more on a few tables you will be able to extract more value out of your solid hands and this is speaking from experience. Another kick to it is that your not exhausted after an hour of play. Longer session are easier to play rather than grinding out a 1 hour 1000 hand session I play 2 hours 1000 hands and I'm able to concentrate more and I don't feel like death after. Unless your looking at becoming FPP pro I wouldn't bother playing any more than 12 tables at any limit.

This all might be advice for the later levels for you but just take it into consideration. Try playing your next 10 sessions at 15 tables for an hour each and then play your next 10 sessions at 6 tables an hour each and see how the results match up.

Keep up the good work!
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09-02-2010 , 10:49 AM
I think playing lots of tables is a good strat for you. I don't speak from experience, but I cannot imagine that you can't crush 2nl with a tight/solid gameplan where you just valuebet a lot. Of course you can win more if you play less and focus on valuebetting, but not 3 times as much (12 tabling compared to 4).

Also, I'm guessing the uNL limits stay fairly similar until 25nl, in that you can just keep vbetting and crush. I found 50nl to be the limit where regs were actually 3betting me and ****, and I needed to learn to start bluffing and thinking about my game more.

Besides, no offense obviously but playing 2nl sucks, and the money you win as you move up is exponential for a while. Getting out of 2nl as fast as you can, even if you're not developing your game much is the best way imo, you can start playing less tables at a higher limit.
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09-02-2010 , 01:09 PM
Will reply soon. sorry.

Session: 413 hands, $+2.08, WR: 25/100

BR: $46.59


Also got a $100 bonus offer from FT, 166FPP/$10 by september 23rd, figure ill have to do 75 FPP a day abouts, so a lot more volume.

5nl by 23rd september, I think so!
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09-02-2010 , 01:35 PM
Hello,

I'm thinking of doing something like you, but i want some software to keep track of how i'm doing and what i can fix, do you have any FREE programs to track my play?

Thanks
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09-02-2010 , 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by ilovelamp
Hello,

I'm thinking of doing something like you, but i want some software to keep track of how i'm doing and what i can fix, do you have any FREE programs to track my play?

Thanks
Id definitely recommend doing it, its good to start from the bottom and build especially if your a beginner.

I would recommend using the poker tracker 3 trial, it lasts 60 days and then the Hold Em Manager which lasts 15 days or vise versa.

Also if your looking for leaks you can post/read here http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/69...-stakes-pl-nl/

Hope this is helpful, feel free to ask any more questions and ill try to answer as best I can.

GL!
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09-03-2010 , 02:52 AM
@ArchitectPro: I take everything you say into consideration, If I was at 10/25nl now then I can see the benefits of playing less tables to focus more and learn.

But being at 2nl, i just want to get to 5nl, Ill have a good roll and can move down if i feel i need to learn more.

Also for the $100 bonus, i need to average 80-90 points a day, meaning 12 tables for maybe 3/4 hours? Not totally sure, but this will put me at 5nl.

@SmokeyJ, this is exactly what I mean, 4 tables vs 12, ill make more at 12. Also I think you never stop learning with poker but at 2nl, you only need to know so much to beat it, the rest is tilt control and BRM.

As soon as I hit 5nl, i'll start with less tables, probably 4-6 and slowly increase when I know I can win there.
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09-03-2010 , 03:00 AM
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Originally Posted by YouFaiil
Will reply soon. sorry.

Session: 413 hands, $+2.08, WR: 25/100

BR: $46.59


Also got a $100 bonus offer from FT, 166FPP/$10 by september 23rd, figure ill have to do 75 FPP a day abouts, so a lot more volume.

5nl by 23rd september, I think so!
At 2NL you'll have to play about 5-6 hours a day, for each of the 21 days. And that's if you 16-table.

$100 is a lot of money for a 2NL player, though. If you can play break-even poker for the next three weeks (should be easy at 2NL), you'll more than triple your bankroll. You can leave 2NL behind for good then.
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09-03-2010 , 03:04 AM
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Originally Posted by LOLDONKBETZ
Grunch:

read Ryan Fee's 6max ebook (quick google search will find it for u), youll be beating microstakes before you know it
This is great advice except...

Dont read it once.
Stop putting in sessions and read it five times.

Sign up for Truly Free Poker (google that also) since its free. Sooner or later youll earn a week free if not more.

Buy HM not PT3
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09-03-2010 , 06:39 AM
Session: 3236 hands, $+5.40, WR: 8.3/100

BR: $52.4


Also earned 44 points today, however i only earned 20 yesterday so im 60 behind for yesterday and 36 today, need to get 96 more today.

Also have $4.31 in rakeback due today,
Rakeback so far this week: $7.02. 3 more days of the rakeback week, I think ill aim for $12-$15 rakeback.

Lunch then back to the tables.

@TheDuke211: Will read the 6max book, i must have missed loldonkbetz post about that :/, ill carry on playing as things have turned around massively, hav doubled my roll since i started and im halfway to 5nl.

Ill have HEM in the next couple of months, i have a job interview fri 10th so money to spend .

@Aabelno: This is the plan, yea its roughly 7 hours 12 tabling, maybe 8. However as its released in $10 increments, i might reach 5nl before the bonus expires and then getting the rest will be a lot easier.
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09-03-2010 , 12:01 PM
When will you start taking shots at 5 nl (how many buy ins?)?
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09-03-2010 , 12:15 PM
Not sure how "shot taking" works but ive seen it mentioned in threads and will look into it, im thinking 20-25 BI's.
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09-03-2010 , 12:31 PM
I'm not kidding, stop and read the book... Don't be results oriented. You'll hear that a lot around here.
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09-03-2010 , 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Theduke211
I'm not kidding, stop and read the book... Don't be results oriented. You'll hear that a lot around here.
I read the book, i dont think its suited to micros that well as there isnt a huge need for being so LAG or deceptive.

Also, im past the phase of being so results orientated, and as youll see from my updates im now a winning player at 2nl, its just a matter of volume before i move up.

Read through all my thread, youll see the development/progress i made.
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09-03-2010 , 01:25 PM
urgh, not sure how accurate ptr is and i didnt record how many hands i played or how much i won.

BR: $58.67, $4.31 rakeback was payed in today as well.

83 points done today, not sure if ill reach 140, i think ill spread what i missed over the next week or so.

exactly halfway to my first $10 increment from the bonus as well (77 points to go) so should have that tomorrow .
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09-03-2010 , 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by YouFaiil
I read the book, i dont think its suited to micros that well as there isnt a huge need for being so LAG or deceptive.

Also, im past the phase of being so results orientated, and as youll see from my updates im now a winning player at 2nl, its just a matter of volume before i move up.

Read through all my thread, youll see the development/progress i made.
no need to be lag but i think you are little bit too tight, i played today some tables with you and you were like 11/7 on 125~ hands (stacked you once set v set =D)
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09-03-2010 , 02:46 PM
Um that book is far from lag.... Its very tag and you need to read it again of you read it with that mentality
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09-04-2010 , 04:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Theduke211
Um that book is far from lag.... Its very tag and you need to read it again of you read it with that mentality
by % of hands you raise from each position it is tag, but at 2nl, raising JTs utg, I think the book really is aimed at higher limits than 2nl, and remember ill implement new things as i move up, learning everything and perfecting my play at 2nl isnt worth my while.

This is the whole purpose of having the bankroll to move up, ill have enough to deal with the variance and if i need to change my play.

@bdp, I had set over set 3 times yesterday, I think I am too tight, i've maybe become nitty, but it is very effective at 2nl and I'll beat the limit easily.

Everyone has their own playing style, changing it is hard because generally how you play is how you play best.

What stats would you say are optimal, I use to play ~12/10, ~14/12~.

Wow, just checked my rakeback this week so far, $11.07 and ive still got today, tomorrow and monday to earn more, 10 BI rakeback week? Also hit 83 points yesterday, 17 more days at 50 points/day for bronze. 77 points for $10 increment as well.
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09-04-2010 , 08:27 AM
Session: 2591 Hands, $+21.12, WR: 40/100.

I'm a poker god?

BR: 73.52, 44 points until first $10 increment, such a grind. 32 points done today, 18 for bronze and ~50 for daily bonus point amount.


I'll be at 5nl very soon, I think 1 week.

weeee!
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09-04-2010 , 07:07 PM
Update: started day off up 10 BI's running hot, playing very good, and then slowly lost it until I was back to where I started it, then had first $10 increment of bonus cleared, so ended day up 5 BI's, frustrating day but didnt tilt at all, did make some bad decisions and probably could have finished up 7 BI's instead.

BR: 67.45

Points today: 77.08

Also have todays rakeback to add onto this weeks $11.07, so maybe im up 6/7 BI's in total, not sure.


Was talking with a friend more about iron man, not sure whether to take the freeroll each month or save up the medals for cash bonuses/tickets instead.

After the first session, I was certain I'd be at 5nl in no time, although today was a good day, it could have been a lot better, but I still believe I'll be at 5nl 100% by september 23rd.
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09-04-2010 , 07:21 PM
You are doing great, I've been following your thread and not so long ago you were a losing player. Great job, keep it up!

S2
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09-05-2010 , 05:07 AM
Session $-5 or so, so ****ing tilted, i missed everything ****ing board, every time someone limped and i raised they would min raise me, i call, and miss the board to see them pot bet, tilted 2 BI's off tbh.

such ****ing BS, everytime i have KK/AA, i bet flop and turn with a fd out, the river makes the flush, i bet, they shove, FUUUUUUUU.

not going to play today, cba with this ****.
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