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SB: $2.02
BB: $2.16
UTG: $2.65
Hero (MP): $2.27
CO: $5.64
BTN: $2.00

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is MP with 8 8
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.07, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.07, SB calls $0.06, BB calls $0.05

Flop: ($0.28) 6 A 8 (4 players)
SB bets $0.20, BB folds, Hero raises to $0.54, BTN folds, SB calls $0.34

Turn: ($1.36) 4 (2 players)
SB bets $1.41 all in, Hero calls $1.41

River: ($4.18) 7 (2 players - 1 is all in)

UGH, he showed Ah Td 80% equity fails.

Also had Ak, floppted TPTK, he had 77 with 1 heart and caught a runner runner for a flush. Cant find hand .

Quit session early, down 2.5 BI's. I knew after I had that tiny little run good id be back to running like ass.

Probs will play tomorrow but i cba getting sucked out on anymore tonight.

Yo just skimmed this thread, kinda cool but haven't read anything so sorry if I say anything that's already been said.

As for strategy, I've never played 2nl (started at 10nl) but I'd say the one must useful piece of advice I could give is bet for value and fold when people bet strong over multiple streets. I can't give specific advice on preflop spots and stuff because I don't know how people play, but you can figure that out just by watching regs (are there many regs at 2nl) and seeing what they have in certain spots.

Always try to sit on a fishes left, and raise his limps with a very wide range to isolate him and either get value or cbet/take it down depending on the situation.

You seem to be playing really tight which isn't optimal but you can't really go wrong with it and you have more room for error when you play a lot looser. Don't just blindly try to open more pots preflop if you haven't thought about the proper way to play them postflop.

As far as tilt goes (my biggest weakness too) just try to remember that NOTHING good will come from tilting, and when you're in the moment try to actively think that you're hurting your winrate and hindering yourself from where you want to be. Imagine yourself making good folds and good valuebets instead of imagining moving up limits, and I guess try to remember how lucky you are to be able to play online poker when you feel yourself start to tilt.

If you're not quite there with controlling your emotions, quitting for a while can't be a bad thing.

Oh yeah and don't play FR lol speeeeeew

unless he had a flush draw as well, this is sort of a cooler, actually, sort of a cooler either way. Apparently this is a pretty bad player, calling out of position raises with J8 then calling flop raises for 25% of his stack with a gutshot draw. Probably not much you can really do here if the guy is as bad as I think he was. If he was a tight player, you "might" be able to get away from this..... I guess you could think about checking back on the turn for pot control if you think he had a gutshot draw, but that's hard for me to say, would need a lot more information about your opponent here.

Regarding posting your position stats, just take a screenshot of the HEM or PT3 section and save it as an image and post the image.

Looks like you're doing better now. I agree with whomever recommended not playing more than 6 tables at this point, especially 6 max. My guess as to why you play better with more tables is you probably employ less FPS but that's just a guess. Post those stats when you get the chance!

Keep it up!

oh, one other thing, I find FR to be much easier, though I play both and win at both, the reason I think it's easier, at least for me, is because I think the players at FR tend to be more by the book and they're easier to runover and/or get out of the way of when they hit the flop hard. It's not because the game is "easier", the players playing it just aren't as good on average as the 6max players though you'll still get plenty of good players playing FR. 6 max certainly requires more skill IMO because of this. Whether you play 6max or FR should be determined by your goals, i.e., if you're simply just looking to get better, you should probably just play 6max solely, if you're looking to build your roll a little faster AND get better, you can play some sort of mix of both.

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BB: $0.82
UTG: $2.31
MP: $2.10
CO: $2.00
BTN: $2.41
Hero (SB): $2.37

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is SB with K 8
UTG calls $0.02, 2 folds, BTN calls $0.02, Hero calls $0.01, BB checks

Flop: ($0.08) K 8 T (4 players)
Hero bets $0.08, BB folds, UTG raises to $0.32, BTN folds, Hero raises to $2.35 all in, UTG calls $1.97 all in

Turn: ($4.66) Q (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: ($4.66) 2 (2 players - 2 are all in)



hmm after thinking about it, i cant see what hands he limps that beat me unless hes super passive, sick beat or bad play?

Session: 1175 hands, $+1.52, WR: 6.4/100.

BR:36.61

Not a bad session, took some beats though and made some bad bets, quite a strange one where i had TPGK, i bet flop and turn for value, dry board, rivers a brick and villain shoves over my small ish value bet, not sure if he saw me as desperately trying to win the pot or he had a set etc, 2 pair etc, he said thanks after which was funny but still, a strange hand. All in all I think I played well and probably could have won more but Its a winning session so im happy.

would you shove 100bbs if you had a hand like KQ on the flop?

notice the only difference between KQ and K8 is that KQ loses to one hand that K8 beats, and thats AK.

bottom line is, bottom 2 pair is not that great of a hand and should not be overplayed when faced with aggression.

I'm not necessarily talking about this hand though because of the number of draws on the flop, shipping it might be fine. but just something to think about.

u should try being a nit. it works better when you're always ahead.

@Donnyz89: This was my exact thoughts after the hand, im never shipping 100bbs on that board, but I think that situation KT makes a lot of sense, KQ/AK/KJ is rarely limped utg, even at 2nl, I thought his range was big draws which i have ~60% equity over (including fd, fd + gshot)?

I'm guessing with you, im never going to get a "its a bad beat, wp" response, and there will always something i did wrong, but at least i can learn and improve from it, I think the reason for shoving was i know the pots going to get big if i c/c and if he does have a big draw i can redraw/get ahead if im not already.

But yeah rare situation I think probably why I played it bad, anyone think i can fold here at 2nl or take a different line?

Donnyz89, what line are you taking here?

EDIT: I can see why when faced with aggression especially on the flop i lose to top 2/set more than anything else and draws some players want to get there with first.

@oomalikoo, lol are you serious? im not too keen on nitting it up, yea id beat 2nl but im winning now playing an ok TAG game i think, plus i want to improve all round as a player.

I want to cry, 2nl is solid :'(

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BTN: $1.59
Hero (SB): $2.10
BB: $1.30
UTG: $3.19
MP: $6.03
CO: $3.88

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is SB with 3 3
3 folds, BTN calls $0.02, Hero calls $0.01, BB checks

Flop: ($0.06) 7 3 9 (3 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $0.02, BTN calls $0.02, Hero calls $0.02

Turn: ($0.12) 7 (3 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $0.21, BTN folds, Hero calls $0.21

River: ($0.54) K (2 players)
Hero bets $0.22, BB raises to $0.44, Hero raises to $1.85 all in, BB calls $0.61 all in

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BB: $2.35
UTG: $2.58
CO: $2.08
BTN: $2.30
Hero (SB): $2.07

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is SB with K K
UTG raises to $0.06, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.20, BB calls $0.18, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.46) Q 3 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.34, BB calls $0.34

Turn: ($1.14) A (2 players)
Hero bets $0.72, BB raises to $1.81 all in, Hero requests TIME, Hero folds

Seeing so much of this at 2nl, does no1 ever believe or are people always getting ahead?
run bad or should i check scare cards :/?.

yum yum

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BTN: $2.00
Hero (SB): $2.19
BB: $1.43
UTG: $3.71
MP: $2.13
CO: $2.75

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is SB with Q Q
1 fold, MP raises to $0.06, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.20, 1 fold, MP calls $0.14

Flop: ($0.42) 9 6 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.30, MP raises to $0.60, Hero raises to $1.99 all in, MP calls $1.33 all in

Turn: ($4.28) J (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: ($4.28) 7 (2 players - 2 are all in)



its these hands that explain why i dont win at 2nl...

everyone get coolers, but good players win enough to cover for them. how much are you losing? i'm struggling with nl2 myself VERY small winner (most $ comes from rakeback)

have you checked any video sites? there are free trials at dc and pokersavvy, watch some videos from micro 6max if you haven't already

True, in the session ive just finished, now going for lunch, i was winning it all back only to get coolered again and again and again...didnt tilt, i understand its just poker now. Have thought about using videos as well, might check them out over lunch. Yeah rakeback is a godsend tbh, makes up at least 1 losing session per week.

Session finished, 2505 hands, $-2.22, WR:-4.4/100 .

BR: $35.02

EDIT: posted one QQ vs JJ hand already, had another which was all in pre against short stack (~40bb) and lost.

QQ vs JJ is an 80/20 right?

yes

Running bad really, really sucks, especially when you're right in the middle of it, looks like you're running pretty bad from looking at the graph and all the hands you've posted and mentioned. The way to look at it is that things will eventually turn around and if you play well enough, you can still be positive, EVEN while running badly, especially at NL2 where your winrate can be much bigger than at the higher stakes.

If it makes you feel any better, I had a 10k hand period where I ran 15 buyins under expected EV at NL50 and had 6 set under sets as well, 4 of them in deep stacked games with 250 bb's on the table + 2 A high flushes for 250bb's each against straight flushes, all in that 10k stretch. You may be running worse than all of that, I dunno, but either way, we understand your pain, it happens at all levels, just push through it and stay smart with your bankroll and you'll be all good!

True it does but this is another great benefit of having a thread, people drill it in that tilt is pointless, it wrecks your roll, dont do it and that running bad is just variance, as long as you play well, your doing fine.

Agree with you there about mentality during sessions, i think im pretty good with this now, i dont tilt, i stay positive and just keep trying to play +EV. If i lose to luck, i should be happy i got my money in ahead and thats what we aim for.

Your run bad period sounds 10x worse, lets hope mine doesnt go that way, i think mine are mainly losing 80/20s, id be sick to see set vs set 6 times in 10k hands, no flush over flush yet but im not big on small suited hands.

Btw, i didnt ignore your last post, its just i like to have a bit of time to reply so i dont miss out parts or repeat things you say.

Thanks for keeping up with the thread so far, hope to see you around here again!

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MP: $3.28
CO: $2.70
BTN: $3.83
SB: $1.63
Hero (BB): $2.25
UTG: $1.66

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is BB with Q Q
1 fold, MP calls $0.02, 2 folds, SB raises to $0.06, Hero raises to $0.20, MP calls $0.18, SB calls $0.14

Flop: ($0.60) T 2 3 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.38, MP folds, SB calls $0.38

Turn: ($1.36) T (2 players)
SB bets $1.05 all in, Hero requests TIME, Hero folds

Standard fold at 2nl/micros? ive been in these spots before, sometimes they show up with PP's, other times a T.

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CO: $1.44
Hero (BTN): $2.14
SB: $4.40
BB: $4.27
UTG: $2.03
MP: $2.60

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is BTN with J J
1 fold, MP raises to $0.05, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.16, 2 folds, MP calls $0.11

Flop: ($0.35) K K 5 (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $0.22, MP calls $0.22

Turn: ($0.79) 8 (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $0.39, MP calls $0.39

River: ($1.57) 9 (2 players)
MP bets $1.57, Hero requests TIME, Hero folds

Why am i always in these spots :'(, i think PP's 99/88/55 or KQ/AK/KJ slowrolling
Frustrating, anyone think they can call here?

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Hero (BB): $2.00
UTG: $5.73
CO: $2.94
BTN: $2.89
SB: $5.43

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is BB with A Q
3 folds, SB raises to $0.06, Hero raises to $0.20, SB calls $0.14

Flop: ($0.40) T 9 7 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($0.40) 8 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.28, SB calls $0.28

River: ($0.96) 2 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.62, SB raises to $4.95 all in, Hero calls $0.90 all in





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Hero (UTG): $2.19
CO: $5.73
BTN: $2.94
SB: $2.96
BB: $3.46

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is UTG with K A
Hero raises to $0.07, 2 folds, SB calls $0.06, BB raises to $0.28, Hero calls $0.21, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.63) T 5 K (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.42, BB calls $0.42

Turn: ($1.47) 9 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.49 all in, BB calls $1.49

River: ($4.45) 2 (2 players - 1 is all in)



-sigh- 2nl is solid, I cant see this getting any better for a long time, 1st hand is kinda of tilt but i was surely he was stacking light, oh well sick.

2nd hand again i was certain they had JJ/QQ

cba to play anymore tonight or maybe for a while, went from being up 2 BI's to being down 1.5 BI's.

Probably played those hands bad, i dnt even care its just sick and disgusting and ****ing boring.

you said yourself, sometimes they show up with PPs, other times a T. so why is this a standard fold?

It isnt totally clear whether or im ahead or way behind, if im playing for a 140bb pot his range seems so 50/50 and its too much of a gamble, imo.

Also for 2nl, with no read/stats isn't it fairly standard to fold to fish if there representing strength.

If i call im pretty much guessing where im at.

It'd be great to hear your line of action and reasoning for that hand?

Session: 1470 hands, $+4.39, WR: 14.9/100.

BR: $36.38

Also reached the 1 a day iron man freeroll. I think I could probably reach bronze at 2nl so I might give this a go, seeing as im now 6-9 tabling and playing at least 1k hands in a session.

Session: 3223 hands, $-0.05, WR: -0.07/100

BR: 36.33

Breakeven for 3k hands , thank god for rakeback. Have $4 of rakeback from the past week coming on friday and ive built up $3 so far this week not including today i dont think.

Lunch then will be playing again.

Update: I am now 6-12 tabling as i cant stand the low volume whilst running bad playing 6 tables.

At this limit I don't think there is any reason to play more than 8-10 tables. Concentrate on learning your game rather than building your bankroll. This will help you get much further later on in your game.

As for your posted hands.

JJ hand your definitely beat and I wouldn't give them 99,66 or 55. All they need is simply AK,KQ. And your right if any villain pushes back at any limit up to nl10 (basically) then you know that your beat unless you have the nuts. I wouldn't call anything less than KQ in this spot.

As for the QQ hand he is repping a 10 real hard and it definitely falls in his range. By his range I mean the common nl2 player because for some reason you don't post their stats. Without their stats you cant honestly expect to get a most accurate response.

The other QQ hand where you lost to a fully. Thats just a cooler at nl2. I would have possibly folded the flop to the min raise villain is repping the nuts with a min raise basically telling you don't fold and come along lol.

One more bit of advice that I have noticed helped my play is try not to force mediocre situations to win money. At the micros I have noticed that most of these players are so bad that they will give you money when you have the best hand so just be patient and bet bet bet when you have the nuts.

GL with the rest of your goal op.