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06-24-2022 , 04:01 AM
2000 more hands have been played and a few buyins up as well. Been working a bit with GTO Wizard , focusing on cbetting OOP and IP with different sizes. Cant say i nail every spot but getting better and better.

Bankroll $69.51

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06-30-2022 , 05:07 AM
Bankroll Update

Bankroll: $81.62

Im like 500 hands away from 10k hands at 2NL fullring. When i get there i will share some positional stats.

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06-30-2022 , 08:34 AM
nice results!

It looks like a full ring is a good way to get through the micro quickly, despite the fact that we are reducing hands/hour
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06-30-2022 , 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by slyless
nice results!

It looks like a full ring is a good way to get through the micro quickly, despite the fact that we are reducing hands/hour
Thanks slyless

Yupp, but im actually having better winrate at 6 max. +13 buyins with 3.5k hands played. But i know the sample size is small and been running kinda good =)

But hopefully i can leave 2 NL at the end of next month and start my next mission to beat 5 NL.
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06-30-2022 , 05:35 PM
Okay so a bit more than 10,000 hands played at 2NL Fullring. I share some stats and as always i would gladly get som input what i should focus on the most to improve in the future.

The graph.....remember the graph and stats following is only my fullring hands. The redline in the beginning was terrible and then i adjusted and kinda bet all the time which worked out good overall and of course for the redline as well. Studied some GTO spots,mainly cbetting and appplied a lot of checks when OOP but also cbet much less when IP. My graph still goes up, but my redline worries me a bit....I have problems in spots when i give up the initiativ to my opps. Better to be betting myself.

Should i adjust back? Doesnt GTO work at 2NL or should i implement it already now cause it will be good for "higher" games in the future?



Positional stats

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07-01-2022 , 04:38 AM
The positional stats might confuse, when its not in right order at the moment =)
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07-01-2022 , 11:03 AM
looks ok
I wouldn't bother too much with the GTO stuff at these stakes. Just a maximum exploit and a good select.
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07-27-2022 , 02:08 PM
Have not made an update since the end on June, been playing a bit less in the beginning of July but now im kinda back at it.

Since the start of the blog/challenge i have now played 17,716hands and the results so far is +$80.18. All at 2NL, mostly fullring but also a bit of 6max. The winrate combined so far is 22.6bb/100.

My bankroll now stands at $100.18 - so maybe i could take som shots at 5NL but some kind of insecurity comes to mind when thinking about that so maybe i will stay at 2NL a bit longer.

The graph



And some positional stats, now for every position since im playing a lot of fullring. What is some good winrates for different positions? Anything that seems a bit off here?



And my results when facing different actions preflop. Same here, looks good or is anything a bit off?



Ok - so now how do i proceed. I want to make the most out of my pokertime but also want to protect my roll so i dont have to deposit anymore - should i take a shot at 5NL. Maybe play 1 table 5NL and 3 tables of 2NL . Or should i stay and get in more hands at 2NL first so i kinda now my winrate at 2NL?

Also, i want to get better all the time. What should my plan be now. Which kinda stats should i look at in Pokertracker to find my leaks? Appreciate any advice here.

Have a nice evening/M
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07-28-2022 , 10:18 AM
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What is some good winrates for different positions? Anything that seems a bit off here?
I like this answer to your question
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Originally Posted by Brokenstars
Keep in mind you'll want a pretty large sample size for positional winrates to converge to something meaningful. Your winrate in the blinds will be negative and that is normal. You can look at the following thread and excerpt from a book to get an idea of what positional winrates should approximately be for 6max nlh.

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/1...rates-1774082/

On the screen you provided, there is no indicator bb / 100

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Maybe play 1 table 5NL and 3 tables of 2NL . Or should i stay and get in more hands at 2NL first so i kinda now my winrate at 2NL?
To start, add 1 table nl5. But tighten up the selection criteria for this table.
For example, there must be two 50%+ VPIP fish at the table and you must be in position on one of them.
This way you will increase the mathematical expectation at this table and reduce the variance.

Turn on the display of stacks in BB instead of $, this way you will reduce the excitement due to increased bet amounts.

And be sure to set a stop loss where you cut out nl5 and come back all the way to nl2, say $80.

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Which kinda stats should i look at in Pokertracker to find my leaks?
I think now there are a lot of examples of database analysis in the free access.
At one time, I really liked the W34z3l leak finders for micros.
https://youtu.be/yry2THThMW4

You can also post your stats in Stats and Graphs Analysis Thread where other more experienced users can help you with the analysis.
But pay attention to the composition of the reports posted by other users.

And GL!
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07-28-2022 , 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by slyless
I like this answer to your question


On the screen you provided, there is no indicator bb / 100



To start, add 1 table nl5. But tighten up the selection criteria for this table.
For example, there must be two 50%+ VPIP fish at the table and you must be in position on one of them.
This way you will increase the mathematical expectation at this table and reduce the variance.

Turn on the display of stacks in BB instead of $, this way you will reduce the excitement due to increased bet amounts.

And be sure to set a stop loss where you cut out nl5 and come back all the way to nl2, say $80.


I think now there are a lot of examples of database analysis in the free access.
At one time, I really liked the W34z3l leak finders for micros.
https://youtu.be/yry2THThMW4

You can also post your stats in Stats and Graphs Analysis Thread where other more experienced users can help you with the analysis.
But pay attention to the composition of the reports posted by other users.

And GL!
Thanks for your input Slyless.

I have analysed my winrate for every position, and at the moment they are all very good except my SB loserate that are slightly out of line compared to the other positions.

Do you know of any good vids, threads or some other study stuff i can go trough to develop my SB game? Or some analysis i can do in Pokertracker to see where im bleeding. Im not that good in filters etc in PT so might miss out on some good stuff there.

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07-28-2022 , 04:10 PM
I have adjusted my ranges from SB now and also will start to only 3bet/fold in these spots from now on and see if it can help my winrate here. Kinda remember that i have read something about that strategy earlier and it´s the way SB should be played these days. Keep the initiativ when OOP, but then i think i will need to develop my cbet game OOP as well =)

But thats one of the funniest things about new things, when you learn something new you always realise that i so much more to learn.
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07-28-2022 , 05:32 PM
Hi, nice thread!
Gl with your goal.
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07-29-2022 , 02:04 PM
Another thing i noticed when i went trough my pokertracker database is that i might miss out a bit of money from not stealing enough from button.

I have a good winrate from BU (60bb/100) so maybe i shouldt change much here, maybe it even will lower my winrate but according to the stats in my database i find their should be some more opportunities to steal some more.

At the moment my raise first in from BU is 38%, and i always go with 2.5xBB, so i have to succeed 62,5% to breakeven. But when i look at fold to button open the population in my games folds 68% of the time.

So my question here, i realise i could go ahead and start raising 100% and if they dont adjust i will make more money from stealing. But i guess you never should do anything 100% cause its kinda easy to exploit.

Any advice here, what would you guys do. Just stay with what im doing now since my winrate is good? Open up a little bit more, say 45-50% or just go ahead and start raising 100?

Thanks in advance =)

Bankroll at the moment: $106.51
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07-30-2022 , 05:04 AM
The main indicator of BU style is not the SB and BB folds, but their 3bets in these positions.
This is due to the fact that if opponents expand their defense by calling, this will not be a problem for us, because we will always play these spots (aggressor in position) with a positive expectation.
Our problems start when we get a 3bet and play spot as a 3bet caller.

I think you can open from BU 52% up to nl10 ( including) because at these stakes the guys still defend their blinds badly.
And reduce this range to the standard 42% if the SB and BB are aggressive guys with high 3bets.


I usually use stats 3bet SB vs BU open and 3bet BB vs BU open. If the sum of these stats is more than 30%, then I don't expand the steal.

You can also use a lower sizing of 2.1bb with a 52% steal and 2.5bb with a 42% steal.
But you should open 2.1bb the entire 52% range, not just the hands marked in blue.
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