nice read so far! GG seems to be a good place with Traffic 24/7 across all games and stakes. I tried different formats and also 30k hands of R&C. Couldn't win in any of these so i play only my daily freebies and the occasional MTT. Will follow your journey for sure and prob will give GG another try.
nice read so far! GG seems to be a good place with Traffic 24/7 across all games and stakes. I tried different formats and also 30k hands of R&C. Couldn't win in any of these so i play only my daily freebies and the occasional MTT. Will follow your journey for sure and prob will give GG another try.
There is a big pool of players so yeah it attracts many regs and players who want to make a decent living. You could probably make $25-30k a year at NL25 rush and cash and $50k+ at NL50 rush and cash if you can beat the rake and do decent volume. Considering all them factors its why its competitive pool.
The ACR pool is somewhat similar but I haven't played it in a long time it has much less traffic but still a good amount of regs also.
I think the reg tables are softer, rush and cash you have to be fundamental solid otherwise you will just donk off buyins so quickly...
First villian (UTG) is a recreational player.
Second villian (CO) who 3bets to 5bb is a reg I have played with for over a year at these stakes. I know he has traps here and so never squeezing or 4betting my AK here my thinking is to just call and see what first villian does first. When 1st villian 4bets and the 2nd villian (reg) jams I can snap fold my hand here its never good.
GG Poker - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Kh Ad
UTG raises to 2 BB, fold, CO raises to 5.04 BB, Hero calls 5.04 BB, fold, fold, UTG raises to 22.66 BB, CO raises to 459.66 BB and is all-in, fold, UTG calls 93.36 BB and is all-in
Flop : (238.58 BB, 2 players) Qh 7c 9c
Turn : (238.58 BB, 2 players) 6s
River : (238.58 BB, 2 players) Qs
CO shows Kc Ks (Two Pair, Kings and Queens)
(Pre 11%, Flop 6%, Turn 2%)
UTG shows Ac As (Two Pair, Aces and Queens)
(Pre 89%, Flop 94%, Turn 98%)
MP (Reg) Kinda spewy but not that bad
BTN (Reg) A bit more solid.
Then me in BB...
When MP bets and BTN raises my hand isn't even worth calling lol.... Still with MP to decide on action I could be trapped and invested in the pot so decided to fold for many reasons... Either 1 or both have sets or 1 has NFD and the other has a set.... either way I have reversed implied odds with K high FD and my hand is never good here...
Flop:(8 BB, 4 players) J 6 7
SB checks, Hero checks, MP bets 4 BB, BTN raises to 12 BB, fold, fold, MP raises to 27 BB, BTN raises to 42 BB, MP raises to 211.46 BB and is all-in, BTN calls 63.2 BB and is all-in
Turn:(218.4 BB, 2 players) Q
River:(218.4 BB, 2 players) 8
BTN cashed out 202.56 BB for a fee of 0 BB
Spoiler:
MP shows 7 7 (Three of a Kind, Sevens)
(Pre 19%, Flop 5%, Turn 2%) BTN shows J J (Three of a Kind, Jacks)
(Pre 81%, Flop 95%, Turn 98%)
hand #3
Another multiway scenario and I have position with bottom set but there is also 89 which is a straight on the flop... MP I was worried about since its a reg but CO is a fun player. So I'm more worried and not really happy with my hand if reg (MP) raises at any point... however once it gets to the river and both check usually here I am good since reg would have shoved his sets and 89 for value or raised it on turn and its a very unorthodox line to check and trap again when it might check down...
Didn't really expect fun player to hero but yeah.... He probably watched too many saulo costa videos and thought I was bluffing but this is why at these limits you really don't want to make big bluffs since some villians cant even fold...
There is a big pool of players so yeah it attracts many regs and players who want to make a decent living. You could probably make $25-30k a year at NL25 rush and cash and $50k+ at NL50 rush and cash if you can beat the rake and do decent volume. Considering all them factors its why its competitive pool.
The ACR pool is somewhat similar but I haven't played it in a long time it has much less traffic but still a good amount of regs also.
I think the reg tables are softer, rush and cash you have to be fundamental solid otherwise you will just donk off buyins so quickly...
yeah makes sense! I have just re-started after a long break from Poker, so i will just try out a few sites/networks that are available from the country i am currently living in which is Germany. Like for GG Poker hhey have different leaderboards which are running weekly starting on wednesdays with a very top-heavy payout structure.
Hey! Nice read so far.
I’ve been playing in the ACR 50nl pool recently. It’s like a rollercoaster. I never seen to back up winning sessions and what I do win, I lose in the next couple sessions and maybe more. I’m running below EV. Slightly losing before raleback and probs around break even with rakeback and beast leaderboard.
I am trying to play solid poker but keep running into everything. Plus when I do occasionally bluff I get called and when I have good hands I get no action. Excuses ha. Mainly getting sucked out on the river where opponents are showing up with crazy hands. Definitely a hard couple of sessions recently.
I can post my last two sessions (since yesterday - 9k hands). I was up $340 last night and now down $140 or so. Will play later tonight but man… I really want to be winning post rakeback.
Would love to chat strategy with you if at all possible. I am trying to grind 30k hands or so per week. Sometimes more.
yeah makes sense! I have just re-started after a long break from Poker, so i will just try out a few sites/networks that are available from the country i am currently living in which is Germany. Like for GG Poker hhey have different leaderboards which are running weekly starting on wednesdays with a very top-heavy payout structure.
Yes I heard about this from someone else seems like the german leaderboard can be very profitable if you get top ranks on it. good luck with it.
Hey! Nice read so far.
I’ve been playing in the ACR 50nl pool recently. It’s like a rollercoaster. I never seen to back up winning sessions and what I do win, I lose in the next couple sessions and maybe more. I’m running below EV. Slightly losing before raleback and probs around break even with rakeback and beast leaderboard.
I am trying to play solid poker but keep running into everything. Plus when I do occasionally bluff I get called and when I have good hands I get no action. Excuses ha. Mainly getting sucked out on the river where opponents are showing up with crazy hands. Definitely a hard couple of sessions recently.
I can post my last two sessions (since yesterday - 9k hands). I was up $340 last night and now down $140 or so. Will play later tonight but man… I really want to be winning post rakeback.
Would love to chat strategy with you if at all possible. I am trying to grind 30k hands or so per week. Sometimes more.
Good luck
ACR 50NL pool I say is pretty tough. After I hit GGPlatinum I might go back there to just dive in for a month and see if I have improved or not ego thing (lol)
Yeah you just need to be careful sometimes its just volume and I have also gone through like a month 100k hands where nothing went right for me and I could not hit the board to save my life or win stacks when I had hands and then I had stretches where it seems like I was just flopping sets every time I called or called a 3bet....
Anyway I send you a DM and probably easier to talk on discord, thanks.
Now I am over 500k hands I thought I show you a comparison versus me and two top regs on pokerstars both beating the game for 8bb/100
ffs_shocked 23/18/8.6 8.25 bb
arcticbearDK 24/20/11 8.59bb
Comparison of some of our stats versus my yearly hands
Both of them make more money 3betting than me but this I am aware of and it really depends if I wish to implement this and pay more rake. It will add more variance and you can see my std dev is way lower than both of them.
Our other stats are pretty much similar where there are some areas I am better e.g. defending blinds, cold calling, calling 3bets, all in preflop....
Certain areas we also match e.g. our river betting profits as calling 3bets and 3bettor.
But anyway I thought that be interesting for everyone to see. I kinda modelled my foundation off these two guys and their graphs and gameplay and hence why our stats are similar in some aspects.
The other big difference is they paying a ton more rake than I am but that is due also to they are playing bigger pots on average.
Made me giggle a bit when you say "I'm better in some spots" against two dudes making 8 times more money pre rb. I mean you are basically a stereotype of a bad reg living out of whales and rb.
Made me giggle a bit when you say "I'm better in some spots" against two dudes making 8 times more money pre rb. I mean you are basically a stereotype of a bad reg living out of whales and rb.
I'm content with my life, I'm beating the game so it's fine. Have no desire to be the best just good enough to beat the rake. All the best
Nice tracking you do here.
I suggest to use PT4 again for showing graphs since GG itself does not include rake and therefore is heavily misleading.
What's your average winning per month?
What do you need to cover your monthly expenses?
Wish you all the luck brother
Yes I normally show my PT4 graph but was accused of deleting hands to make my graph look nice so sometimes I show both. End of month I will show my PT graph.
On average if I just playing NL50 I make $5k on average monthly including rakeback.
Its more if I include the BBJ winnings but I dont really want to say how much I won there.
But for the year I well over $50k in profits.
(my monthly expense are $600 a month)
Last edited by nogamenolife; 07-12-2023 at 11:27 AM.
1) Been coolered a bunch this month e.g got set over set twice. Ran KK into AA twice and AK into AA few times.
2) 4 times I have AA and split pot 3 times and lost 1 lol...
3) Still played kinda like a monkey around my B- game definitely could have saved some more money and made a bit more profit but I been testing alot of weird stuff out like donks and leads in call 3bet pots and so forth.
Apart from that just slow and steady profits which basically against my expectation and not much variance.
70k hands
2.26 bb/100
1.23 ev bb/100
profits: $794
rake: $1204.96
Total $1,998.96
Nice results mate.
And 600$ as living expenses for a month are really low, so you are basically rich by winning 5k a month.
Some other people already mentioned it that your red line looks awful and you defended that by stating that most crushers have a losing red line.
I think having a losing red line is fine, but your red line definitely loses a lot.
Don't you think you would achieve better results bringing it a bit further upwards?
I'm thinking about adding this particular play (2-tabling Rush n' Cash) to my poker grind, since GG is accepted in my country now.
How many hands per table do you get in?
Also, what's your prediction for these tables the next six month? Since GG are growing steadily and attracting recreational players it should be fine up to $200, right?
Nice results mate.
And 600$ as living expenses for a month are really low, so you are basically rich by winning 5k a month.
Some other people already mentioned it that your red line looks awful and you defended that by stating that most crushers have a losing red line.
I think having a losing red line is fine, but your red line definitely loses a lot.
Don't you think you would achieve better results bringing it a bit further upwards?
I prefer low variance compared to higher variance plays. And GGPoker you need to be concerned with losing to the rake which is really you main enemy when you play rush and cash. For me just consistently winning money and not having swings is my main goal.
My redline I compare it to articbear on pokerstars who play NL50 reg tables and he loses -10 bb/100 where my red line falls around -(08-10) bb/100 so its acceptable.
I'm thinking about adding this particular play (2-tabling Rush n' Cash) to my poker grind, since GG is accepted in my country now.
How many hands per table do you get in?
Also, what's your prediction for these tables the next six month? Since GG are growing steadily and attracting recreational players it should be fine up to $200, right?
Good luck!
About 200 hands/hour per table so 2 tabling you will do around 400 hands per hour.
I think the pool is always going to be +EV if you fundamentally strong. Biggest pool so going to always have a good circulation of fish and bad players and recreational regs...
And yeah lots of mis-information on internet so this always help fuel the bad players to come in =)
Some other people already mentioned it that your red line looks awful and you defended that by stating that most crushers have a losing red line.
I think having a losing red line is fine, but your red line definitely loses a lot.
Don't you think you would achieve better results bringing it a bit further upwards?
Take a look at the graph below. he is a 8.5 bb/100 winner but his red line is basically same or worse sometimes than mine.
redline factors mainly come into these factors:
1) are you willing to bluff catch more and play more pots in marginal situations and have a better mininum def frequency. In general I don't find value in bluff catching at NL50 but I do it more at NL100 and NL200.
2) are you playing with regs more often or recreationals. if you have more fish you probably will have a better red line see graph below...
So redline really isn't a main factor into your win rates, it somewhat effects but you can't really assume it is a cause since articbear who wins at 8.5 bb/100 has a bad red line also.
This is my redline at nl200 rush where I just basically bum hunt you can see I avoid regs and bluff catch more.
So yeah if you playing a pool where you dont really game select you will have a worser for wear red line, if you bum hunt you have a better red line.
For a good redline you do not have to bluff catch (these hands influence the blue line a lot and much less the redline)
To have a good redline two points are very important:
1) Go for all the small pots when villains are capped or do not have big interest in
2) Go for thin value on the river
For a good redline you do not have to bluff catch (these hands influence the blue line a lot and much less the redline)
To have a good redline two points are very important:
1) Go for all the small pots when villains are capped or do not have big interest in
2) Go for thin value on the river
Yup which neither I am too interested to do. My overall macro strategy beats the rake no point in trying to fix what isn't broken.
There is a clear obsession with alot of people with a red line but again I think its just a red herring. Beat the games first + 0bb/100 and then slowly find where you can increase your ev. I have no idea why people obsess over this too much to the point they ignore or don't see if their game is fundamentally strong.
If your foundation is bad you won't win pure and simple whatever you do but if you are beating the game just find the spots where you can increase ev versus the population and pool. And just from my mass data analysis there is no real point to make an amazing red line in rush and cash ggpoker since it doesnt really equate to a high win rate and you can beat the rake over time. This is my 2cents worth but again try it if you dont believe it and see if it works for a big sample...
UTG raises to 3.4 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 11.6 BB, fold, BB raises to 38.6 BB, fold, Hero calls 27 BB
Flop:(81 BB, 2 players) J 2 K BB bets 60.34 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 60.34 BB
Turn:(201.68 BB, 2 players) J
River:(201.68 BB, 2 players) 7
Hero cashed out 187.33 BB for a fee of 0 BB
Spoiler:
BB shows A 2 4 A (Two Pair, Aces and Jacks)
(Pre 65%, Flop 11%, Turn 5%) Hero shows K 7 K 5 (Full House, Kings full of Jacks)
(Pre 35%, Flop 89%, Turn 95%)
Hit the flop well on this one but calling is better than shoving since if I hit my flush his equity drops which I did.