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12-10-2022 , 02:21 AM
Sup,

This is my journey back into poker, and back to being a winning player. Before Black Friday, I was a solid reg in the Stars 180-man SnGs, and was (for a short time), a full time MTT SnG player, with cool Sharkscope badges and everything. Then BF happened and I dropped poker for basically 11 years. Recently the interest re-sparked, and I've started casually playing again. And as soon as I began playing, I realized the desire to crush is still very much there. However, I have no desire to play MTT SnGs anymore, I'm much more interested in cash games. I also have no desire to ever play for a living again. I want this strictly as a hobby, and to see how high I can go before I'm not a winner anymore.

Right now my goals are simple:
  • Be confident I am beating 50NL by the end of 2023
  • Beat 100NL
  • Devote at least SOME time to poker every day, and update here

Time is my major constraint. I am also learning Italian as well as programming languages so I can shift out of my career in marketing and into one in tech so I can move abroad and travel for a few years.

Here is my graph so far:


Obviously, I'm just getting started and results are meaningless so far. And it's clear a lot has changed in the past 11 years in the game. Everything has moved towards GTO, though I'll be playing mostly exploitatively until at least 50NL. My first few days back felt a bit like a junkie who just relapsed, loaded up the size of a shot he used to do before he got clean, and immediately ODs. I used to 24 table MTTs, now I get overwhelmed at times 4-Tabling cash. I thought everyone was just ******ed with these 2x opens and 1/3 PSB cbets, and then I started catching up on theory (however I am starting at micros so.... everyone really is kind of ******ed). Overbets were just becoming a thing when I was playing, but weren't a thing in MTTs really, and now I run into overbets all the time.

Needless to say, I have a lot to learn, and a lot to catch up on. I have a coach working with me on rebuilding my fundamentals and getting me up to speed. I'll be updating here hopefully daily. If nobody ready this, that's fine, it's mostly for me. However, if you do read this, and see me slacking on devoting time to poker, make sure to bully me about it.
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12-10-2022 , 02:38 AM
Today I played my longest session by far since I started back up. Up until today I've been playing hour long sessions, stopping, and reviewing all the hands. So usually 250 hands or so in a session. I tripled that today and finished with a 2.5 BI win. Should have been 3.5BI but I punted a stack on a bluff that is too embarrassing to even post. No idea what I was thinking.

Todays graph:


Some hands from today:

Yatahay Network - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 67.1 BB
Hero (CO): 128.3 BB
BTN: 106.4 BB
SB: 162.7 BB
BB: 124.7 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T T

fold, Hero raises to 2.5 BB, fold, SB raises to 10 BB, BB calls 9 BB, Hero calls 7.5 BB

Flop: (30 BB, 3 players) 2 J 9
SB bets 7.5 BB, BB calls 7.5 BB, Hero raises to 24.1 BB, fold, fold

Hero wins 49.9 BB

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Thought I was bluff catching, in reality I'm a fish:

Yatahay Network - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 107 BB
Hero (CO): 119.2 BB
BTN: 133.4 BB
SB: 151.8 BB
BB: 96.6 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 5 5

fold, Hero raises to 2.5 BB, fold, SB raises to 10 BB, fold, Hero calls 7.5 BB

Flop: (21 BB, 2 players) 6 4 A
SB bets 5.2 BB, Hero calls 5.2 BB

Turn: (31.4 BB, 2 players) K
SB checks, Hero checks

River: (31.4 BB, 2 players) K
SB bets 23.5 BB, Hero calls 23.5 BB

Hero shows 5 5 (Two Pair, Kings and Fives)
(Pre 53%, Flop 74%, Turn 5%)
SB shows K Q (Three of a Kind, Kings)
(Pre 47%, Flop 26%, Turn 95%)
SB wins 74.5 BB

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This guy was like a 54/40/25 spaz. I played this river poorly and should have put in a blocker bet of some kind.

Yatahay Network - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 303.4 BB
BTN: 100 BB
Hero (SB): 161.6 BB
BB: 111 BB
UTG: 188.7 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J Q

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (6 BB, 2 players) Q 7 3
Hero bets 3.7 BB, BB calls 3.7 BB

Turn: (13.4 BB, 2 players) 8
Hero bets 8.4 BB, BB calls 8.4 BB

River: (30.2 BB, 2 players) K
Hero checks, BB bets 70.2 BB, fold

BB shows T J (High Card, King)

BB wins 28.7 BB


If anyone can tell me how to get player stats into HHs from PT4, that would be appreciated.
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12-11-2022 , 01:57 AM
Today's graph:



Two hands with 88:


Yatahay Network - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (MP): 100.8 BB
CO: 106.4 BB
BTN: 178.9 BB
SB: 101.4 BB
BB: 236.6 BB
UTG: 112.7 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 8 8

fold, Hero raises to 2.5 BB, fold, BTN raises to 10.2 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 7.7 BB

Flop: (21.9 BB, 2 players) Q 9 4
Hero checks, BTN bets 7.2 BB, Hero calls 7.2 BB

Turn: (36.3 BB, 2 players) 2
Hero checks, BTN bets 20.1 BB, Hero calls 20.1 BB

River: (76.5 BB, 2 players) K
Hero checks, BTN checks

Hero shows 8 8 (One Pair, Eights)
(Pre 80%, Flop 90%, Turn 82%)
BTN shows 3 5 (High Card, King)
(Pre 20%, Flop 10%, Turn 18%)
Hero wins 72.7 BB

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Yatahay Network - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: 155.7 BB
CO: 163.9 BB
Hero (BTN): 100 BB
SB: 192.3 BB
BB: 119.3 BB
UTG: 101.5 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 8 8

UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 3 BB, fold, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (9.5 BB, 3 players) 2 5 5
BB checks, UTG bets 7.1 BB, Hero calls 7.1 BB, fold

Turn: (23.7 BB, 2 players) 9
UTG bets 23.7 BB, Hero calls 23.7 BB

River: (71.1 BB, 2 players) 4
UTG bets 67.7 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 66.2 BB and is all-in

Hero shows 8 8 (Two Pair, Eights and Fives)
(Pre 20%, Flop 8%, Turn 5%)
UTG shows A A (Two Pair, Aces and Fives)
(Pre 80%, Flop 92%, Turn 95%)
UTG wins 193.4 BB

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Realizing I have some significant leaks pre-flop, specifically not 3betting enough, having almost no 4bet bluff range, and being unsure of a good calling range facing 3bets. Going to spend tomorrow morning studying some preflop ranges before I sit down to play more. Hoping to get in another 700ish hands tomorrow as well, but then will slow back down during the week to probably just 200 a day or so.

Also need to look at my bluffing ranges post flop. While I think micros are largely underbluffed, I'm probably overbluffing in a lot of spots, not thinking about my range, and instead just relying on aggression to make passive unplayers uncomfortable. Which will probably actually work at 10NL, but obviously is an awful habit to get comfortable in if I'm looking to move up.
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12-11-2022 , 08:25 AM
Good luck my friend!!
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12-11-2022 , 12:24 PM
GL subbed..

Guess the games and overall strat seem so different? I took a break from 2013 til 2019 and had to kinda work on stuff as FR was dead so moved to 6max. The transition was a challenge but i wished i moved to 6max sooner.

Anyways i will follow your progress
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12-12-2022 , 01:06 AM
Spent the majority of today working on pre-flop 3b & calling ranges. I'm sure I have some stuff wrong, but feeling much more solid. Only got in about 440 hands, because I was 2-3 tabling. Wanted to make sure I wasn't too busy to not look up every action pre-flop to try and start drilling ranges into my head. Had a losing day again, but no big deal. A mix of making mistakes and running bad post flop. I did finally decide that nobody is 4/5bet bluffing at the micros pre. Players doing that are likely just spaz shipping stacks. This feels like one of those things I knew before but had to re-learn the lesson.



A few hands:

Yatahay Network - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 193.2 BB
CO: 155.4 BB
BTN: 210.5 BB
Hero (SB): 141.1 BB
BB: 100 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q Q

UTG raises to 2.5 BB, CO calls 2.5 BB, fold, Hero raises to 13.5 BB, fold, fold, CO calls 11 BB

Flop: (30.5 BB, 2 players) T 3 3
Hero bets 19.1 BB, CO raises to 45.2 BB, Hero calls 26.1 BB

Turn: (120.9 BB, 2 players) A
Hero checks, CO bets 96.7 BB and is all-in, fold

CO wins 114.9 BB


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Yatahay Network - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 117.6 BB
BB: 126.2 BB
Hero (UTG): 113.1 BB
MP: 121.9 BB
CO: 240.3 BB
BTN: 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K A

Hero raises to 2.5 BB, MP calls 2.5 BB, fold, fold, fold, BB calls 1.5 BB

Flop: (8 BB, 3 players) 4 A J
BB checks, Hero bets 5 BB, MP calls 5 BB, fold

Turn: (18 BB, 2 players) 2
Hero bets 12.8 BB, MP calls 12.8 BB

River: (43.6 BB, 2 players) K
Hero bets 20.7 BB, MP raises to 101.6 BB and is all-in, fold

MP wins 80.8 BB


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Anddddd, some really bad spew:

Yatahay Network - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 106.6 BB
BTN: 59 BB
SB: 106.3 BB
Hero (BB): 225.7 BB
UTG: 246.8 BB
MP: 180.9 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A K

fold, MP raises to 2.8 BB, fold, fold, SB calls 2.3 BB, Hero raises to 14 BB, MP raises to 44.8 BB, fold, Hero calls 30.8 BB

Flop: (92.4 BB, 2 players) 3 9 J
Hero checks, MP bets 23.1 BB, Hero calls 23.1 BB

Turn: (138.6 BB, 2 players) J
Hero checks, MP checks

River: (138.6 BB, 2 players) 5
Hero bets 57 BB, MP calls 57 BB

Hero shows A K (One Pair, Jacks)
(Pre 30%, Flop 14%, Turn 7%)
MP shows K K (Two Pair, Kings and Jacks)
(Pre 70%, Flop 86%, Turn 93%)
MP wins 240 BB
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12-12-2022 , 02:24 AM
^Interestingly just ran that last hand through GTO Wiz and said it was played essentially perfect, but I suspect this is still spew at micros. Maybe being results oriented
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12-13-2022 , 01:25 AM
Another poor session, which is my fault. I made three bad plays during the session, which really ruined the whole thing. After the first hand, A4, loss, I grinded back up to pretty much even before donking it off towards the end of the session. Although, the KJs hand probably isn't that bad, I've seen this player do that with complete air before, I'm probabaly just more upset that I got stacked.








Yatahay Network - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 169.2 BB
Hero (BB): 100 BB
UTG: 263.9 BB
MP: 470.4 BB
CO: 100 BB
BTN: 125.4 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A 4

fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 9 BB, SB calls 6 BB

Flop: (18 BB, 2 players) A 5 Q
SB checks, Hero bets 11.2 BB, SB calls 11.2 BB

Turn: (40.4 BB, 2 players) T
SB checks, Hero bets 19.2 BB, SB raises to 41.4 BB, Hero calls 22.2 BB

River: (123.2 BB, 2 players) 6
SB bets 39.3 BB, Hero calls 38.4 BB and is all-in

SB shows 5 A (Two Pair, Aces and Fives)
(Pre 56%, Flop 90%, Turn 93%)
Hero shows A 4 (One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 44%, Flop 10%, Turn 7%)
SB wins 190 BB


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Yatahay Network - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 172.5 BB
Hero (MP): 146.4 BB
CO: 108 BB
BTN: 103.5 BB
SB: 104 BB
BB: 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J K

fold, Hero raises to 2.5 BB, fold, fold, SB raises to 10 BB, BB calls 9 BB, Hero calls 7.5 BB

Flop: (30 BB, 3 players) 7 J 5
SB bets 21.6 BB, fold, Hero calls 21.6 BB

Turn: (73.2 BB, 2 players) 9
SB bets 72.4 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 72.4 BB

River: (218 BB, 2 players) 8
SB cashed out 149.2 BB for a fee of 1.5 BB

Hero shows J K (One Pair, Jacks)
(Pre 29%, Flop 17%, Turn 27%)
SB shows A J (One Pair, Jacks)
(Pre 71%, Flop 83%, Turn 73%)


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This was 100% a tilt call after turning my hand into a bluff on the turn. I had just lost the KJs hand and was annoyed. I swear I'm not this bad.

Yatahay Network - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 43.7 BB
MP: 164.4 BB
CO: 172.7 BB
BTN: 100.5 BB
SB: 111 BB
Hero (BB): 144 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 8 8

fold, MP raises to 2.5 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 1.5 BB

Flop: (5.5 BB, 2 players) 8 T 9
Hero checks, MP bets 1.6 BB, Hero raises to 5.8 BB, MP calls 4.2 BB

Turn: (17.1 BB, 2 players) Q
Hero bets 10.7 BB, MP calls 10.7 BB

River: (38.5 BB, 2 players) 5
Hero checks, MP bets 28.8 BB, Hero calls 28.8 BB

MP shows A J (Straight, Queen High)
(Pre 48%, Flop 26%, Turn 74%)
Hero shows 8 8 (Three of a Kind, Eights)
(Pre 53%, Flop 74%, Turn 26%)
MP wins 91.3 BB


Overall graph now:



Meeting with coach tomorrow morning to go over pre-flop ranges and why I am a fish.
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12-14-2022 , 01:26 AM
Met with coach for two hours this morning. Finalized defending ranges. Now I need to work on my 4b/ call 3b ranges. We also went over some post flop stuff and I can see some big leaks.

Played a short session tonight. Punted a stack at the beginning because I misread a board when hurrying to check a pre-flop spot on another table. So have dropped down from 4 tables to 3. Realized I was playing badly because I was upset at myself for such a dumb mistake, so called it early and had a breakeven night.



No interesting hands really.
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12-14-2022 , 10:02 PM


Small session today for tiny win. Am 2-tabling for now to not rush myself on learning new ranges, and to focus more post-flop. Mixing in a third table only when I found a juicy one. Literally nothing happened this session besides a small hand at the end I'll post where I couldn't decide whether to raise turn or call and evaluate river. I elected to call, and then call again if I brick my flush, and raise (obviously) if I hit it. If I missed the flush, then AJ starts to get into bluff catcher territory, especially with the 8 & 9 on the board. I think if the river was an offsuit T, I would be able to find a fold.

Villain is 24/23/13 w/ 83% cbet over 136 hands. Just looked him up on StatName & they have him at 31/27/17.6 and -8.6bb/100 over 14k hands. However they also have him last online as two years ago.

Yatahay Network - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 110.6 BB
CO: 215.7 BB
Hero (BTN): 104.9 BB
SB: 120.2 BB
BB: 102 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J A

fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.5 BB, SB raises to 8.5 BB, fold, Hero calls 6 BB

Flop: (18 BB, 2 players) 3 9 8
SB bets 4.5 BB, Hero calls 4.5 BB

Turn: (27 BB, 2 players) A
SB bets 13.5 BB, Hero calls 13.5 BB

River: (54 BB, 2 players) 7
SB bets 27 BB, Hero raises to 78.4 BB and is all-in, fold

Hero wins 102.6 BB

Probably doesn't matter much one way or the other whether I raise turn or not, it's just literally the only decent pot I was in this session.
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12-16-2022 , 12:23 AM


Breakeven mini-session. Wanted to put in a lengthy session, but the tables were bad and full of nits and would rather just not play. This weekend I'll be able to put some volume in though, and I'm excited about that. A few hands:

Villain is 27/17/9 over 63 hands. Basically still just playing general population. River, how thin do you value-bet, and how do you size? This was... pretty thin IMO.

Yatahay Network - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 159.7 BB
Hero (CO): 153.5 BB
BTN: 148 BB
SB: 100 BB
BB: 114 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q J

UTG raises to 2.5 BB, Hero raises to 8 BB, fold, fold, fold, UTG calls 5.5 BB

Flop: (17.5 BB, 2 players) 7 Q 5
UTG checks, Hero bets 12.5 BB, UTG calls 12.5 BB

Turn: (42.5 BB, 2 players) 2
UTG checks, Hero checks

River: (42.5 BB, 2 players) T
UTG checks, Hero bets 13.3 BB, fold

Hero wins 40.4 BB


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This guy is a 23/19/7 over 1k hands and has bluff raised me on flop multiple times, so I decided to continue w/ TPTK and evaluate turn as there were a lot of good cards to C/R on if needed. Happy to check it down though since I had showdown value:

Yatahay Network - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (UTG): 103 BB
CO: 293.3 BB
BTN: 100 BB
SB: 100 BB
BB: 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A 9

Hero raises to 2.5 BB, fold, BTN calls 2.5 BB, fold, fold

Flop: (6.5 BB, 2 players) 5 9 7
Hero bets 4.6 BB, BTN raises to 15 BB, Hero calls 10.4 BB

Turn: (36.5 BB, 2 players) 8
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: (36.5 BB, 2 players) 7
Hero checks, BTN checks

Hero shows A 9 (Two Pair, Nines and Sevens)
(Pre 27%, Flop 83%, Turn 89%)
BTN shows A Q (One Pair, Sevens)
(Pre 73%, Flop 17%, Turn 11%)
Hero wins 34.7 BB


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Final hand. SB is 41/22/18 over 32 hands. Tiny sample, but obviously a spaz.

Couldn't decide on flop if I wanted to ship it then since I have so much equity, or let him continue with all his spazzy-fishy bluffs on the turn. I elected to just call and let him ship turn, which he does. Unfortunately whiff all my outs. Probably should have just shipped flop, but still had direct odds for the turn call. Was a little annoyed I was (I thought) drawing to the nut low flush, but he shows up with 62s because he is a spaz. Hit & ran me, will bumhunt him in the future.

Yatahay Network - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 95.9 BB
UTG: 108.7 BB
MP: 119.2 BB
CO: 110.9 BB
Hero (BTN): 100 BB
SB: 123.8 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 5 7

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.5 BB, SB calls 2 BB, BB calls 1.5 BB

Flop: (7.5 BB, 3 players) 6 K 4
SB bets 3.5 BB, BB calls 3.5 BB, Hero raises to 13.3 BB, SB raises to 41.5 BB, fold, Hero calls 28.2 BB

Turn: (94 BB, 2 players) Q
SB bets 79.8 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 56 BB and is all-in

River: (206 BB, 2 players) 9

Hero shows 5 7 (High Card, King)
(Pre 65%, Flop 58%, Turn 36%)
SB shows 2 6 (One Pair, Sixes)
(Pre 35%, Flop 42%, Turn 64%)
SB wins 195.7 BB
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12-16-2022 , 07:58 AM
Whats the software like on that site?
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12-16-2022 , 02:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Claret~N~Blue
Whats the software like on that site?
ACR? It's alright. Nothing special, but not too bad either.
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12-16-2022 , 03:56 PM
Subbed! We're basically at the same spot in our journeys

I think the QJ hand was played well, though i would probably have charged his probable flush draw with a bet/fold ott. Obviously it opens us up to bluffs. With that runout as played I think the bet size is fine, as I expect villain would bet a better Q, and hands like JJ with a club can find a catch. Dending on villain he could also turn up with ATo with a club and pay otr. I mean, it's thin, but when villain checks turn he basically turns his hand face up. We might ofc run into KQo vs some looser UTG openers, but with those stats I think there are not so many combos in populations range here at 10NL, at least not where I play (Pokerstars).

Like the play with the A9, though I usually only open ATo+ from UTG/LJ. Villain should have a few raises with exactly the kind of hand he had on this board, as it interacts poorly with your opening range. After that there is no reason to bet. I would probably consider a call to a reasonable sized bet otr.

I think I prefer just shipping it OTF with the OESD+FD here. Your equity is ahead of pretty much all of villains value holdings. Splashy fish has such a wide range that calling off ott when you miss your turn draw is blergh, even if we get the direct outs.

***Exclaimer: I am probably still a massive fish, so take my thoughts with a pinch of salt haha***

Looking forward to following your journey Accepted Friend request on discord, will be good to talk some hands at similar stakes
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12-17-2022 , 01:02 AM


Alright session. Tables broke up so I opted not to continue on tighter tables still running. Frustratingly ran very card dead on a dream table and didn't get much done there.

Weird hand. Made a pretty standard raise on flop to steal from his air cbets, and he just jams. I did some mental math and put him on AA/KK/QQ/TT/ATs, and figured I had odds. I was right, by about 1%. Not a great spot, I don't think there are ever any bluffs in his range there. Probably with rake at 10NL this is a clear fold now that I think of it.

Yatahay Network - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 104.1 BB
UTG: 100 BB
Hero (MP): 134.4 BB
CO: 397.7 BB
BTN: 390.5 BB
SB: 131.3 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K A

fold, Hero raises to 2.5 BB, fold, fold, SB raises to 12 BB, fold, Hero calls 9.5 BB

Flop: (25 BB, 2 players) 2 T T
SB bets 8.2 BB, Hero raises to 20.4 BB, SB raises to 119.3 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 98.9 BB

Turn: (263.6 BB, 2 players) 3

River: (263.6 BB, 2 players) 6

Hero shows K A (One Pair, Tens)
(Pre 34%, Flop 45%, Turn 27%)
SB shows K K (Two Pair, Kings and Tens)
(Pre 66%, Flop 55%, Turn 73%)
SB wins 250.5 BB

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Got lucky here, not sure if I change anything? I see these shortstackers punt off stacks w/ top pair or a draw constantly. So even though he showed up with the top of his range here, I feel like this is still fine. Could be wrong.

Yatahay Network - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 52 BB
SB: 100 BB
BB: 62.2 BB
Hero (UTG): 100.5 BB
MP: 164.2 BB
CO: 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A A

Hero raises to 2.5 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, BB calls 1.5 BB

Flop: (5.5 BB, 2 players) K 7 Q
BB checks, Hero bets 3.4 BB, BB raises to 9.8 BB, Hero raises to 26.2 BB, BB raises to 59.7 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 33.5 BB

Turn: (124.9 BB, 2 players) T

River: (124.9 BB, 2 players) 4

BB shows Q Q (Three of a Kind, Queens)
(Pre 18%, Flop 86%, Turn 70%)
Hero shows A A (Flush, Ace High)
(Pre 82%, Flop 14%, Turn 30%)
Hero wins 118.7 BB

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Finally a small bluff against a reg

Yatahay Network - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 106 BB
BTN: 100.9 BB
Hero (SB): 127.6 BB
BB: 384.3 BB
UTG: 399.3 BB
MP: 132.9 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 9 Q

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (6 BB, 2 players) 4 K J
Hero bets 1.8 BB, BB calls 1.8 BB

Turn: (9.6 BB, 2 players) 2
Hero bets 3.5 BB, BB calls 3.5 BB

River: (16.6 BB, 2 players) 4
Hero bets 5.2 BB, fold

Hero wins 15.8 BB
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12-17-2022 , 03:17 AM
I think the AA call becomes pretty meh once you're facing a 4bet jam on the flop. The Ah in your hand actually blocks a large part of villains range that you're hoping he has here.

I think if you just stick it in as a 3bet he may punt off wider than he jams over a non ai 3bet. But I really struggle against players I perceive as fish since I have struggle to range them accurately and figure out how they think. So I'm really not sure.

I think I probably just call his x/r otf with the Ah and call a bet ott. Probably don't get stacks in, but much lower variance.
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12-17-2022 , 10:47 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by fckthemoon
ACR? It's alright. Nothing special, but not too bad either.



What's the pool like? reg infested or?



How's rakeback etc?
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12-17-2022 , 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Claret~N~Blue
What's the pool like? reg infested or?



How's rakeback etc?
There's definitely a fair share of regs. I'm trying to do a lot of table selecting.

My only reference for rakeback is 2009-2011 Pokerstars. It is obviously not that good, not sure how it compares to other sites today. I will move to Ignition at some point, but for some reason deposit options are not working for me, so right now just sticking on ACR
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12-17-2022 , 05:55 PM


Very annoyed at myself, ruined a good session with not folding a hand I knew I had to, and then tilting off a stack immediately after


I knew I should fold this on flop when he jammed. Just couldn't bring myself to do it. Talked myself into "if I'm not getting it in on tjis board, why am I even calling the 3bet pre"

Yatahay Network - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 109.1 BB
BB: 100 BB
UTG: 100 BB
Hero (MP): 158.5 BB
CO: 143.2 BB
BTN: 116 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T T

fold, Hero raises to 2.5 BB, CO calls 2.5 BB, fold, fold, BB raises to 12 BB, Hero calls 9.5 BB, CO calls 9.5 BB

Flop: (36.5 BB, 3 players) 4 3 8
BB bets 13.6 BB, Hero raises to 30.5 BB, fold, BB raises to 88 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 57.5 BB

Turn: (212.5 BB, 2 players) K

River: (212.5 BB, 2 players) 7

BB shows A A (One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 81%, Flop 92%, Turn 95%)
Hero shows T T (One Pair, Tens)
(Pre 19%, Flop 8%, Turn 5%)
BB wins 201.9 BB



And then shortly after this hand happened and I was tilted and played awfully and was hoping he had a lower overpair and was blowing up with it like I had just done:

Yatahay Network - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: 104.6 BB
CO: 100 BB
BTN: 98.7 BB
Hero (SB): 145.1 BB
BB: 100 BB
UTG: 201.4 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A A

UTG raises to 2.5 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 11 BB, fold, UTG calls 8.5 BB

Flop: (23 BB, 2 players) 8 8 9
Hero bets 14.4 BB, UTG calls 14.4 BB

Turn: (51.8 BB, 2 players) 6
Hero bets 32.5 BB, UTG raises to 65 BB, Hero calls 32.5 BB

River: (181.8 BB, 2 players) 2
Hero checks, UTG bets 90.9 BB, Hero calls 54.7 BB and is all-in

Hero shows A A (Two Pair, Aces and Eights)
(Pre 80%, Flop 0.1%, Turn 0%)
UTG shows 8 8 (Four of a Kind, Eights)
(Pre 20%, Flop 99.9%, Turn 100%)
UTG wins 276.7 BB


Super annoyed at myself because I know I'm better than this but I still let myself punt like this. Was planning on 700+ hands today, but going to cut it short here because I'm clearly not playing well enough.
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12-17-2022 , 07:06 PM
It happens man. Well done for identifying the tilt and ending the day. I had a fun one today also, though I was not as disciplined as you.

Several stationy spews were made, all of which obviously bad calls.

we can't win em all.
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12-18-2022 , 11:32 PM
Only had time to play another 300 hands today with everything I have going on for the holidays.



This is my lifetime graph. It is... extremely concerning to me how far over EV I am running. If I'm running this well, I should really be performing better than I am as far as winrate. EV wise I'm not even a winning player. So I'm becoming more and more troubled by this:




Hands from today:


Weird pre-flop action, but obviously just get it in.

Yatahay Network - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 88 BB
SB: 501.7 BB
BB: 105.4 BB
UTG: 39 BB
MP: 119 BB
Hero (CO): 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q Q

UTG raises to 3.5 BB, fold, Hero raises to 10 BB, BTN raises to 20 BB, fold, BB calls 19 BB, fold, Hero raises to 100 BB and is all-in, BTN calls 68 BB and is all-in, fold

Flop: (200 BB, 2 players) T 6 K

Turn: (200 BB, 2 players) 4

River: (200 BB, 2 players) 4

BTN shows J J (Two Pair, Jacks and Fours)
(Pre 18%, Flop 8%, Turn 2%)
Hero shows Q Q (Two Pair, Queens and Fours)
(Pre 82%, Flop 92%, Turn 98%)
Hero wins 190 BB

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Nice to suckout here. Villain is 29/17/7 over 187 hands. So clearly a fish, and is also shortstacking, and I assume anyone with less than 100bb is also a fish. SO I think fine to get it in here w/ AKo, though I did really hate seeing that minraise from him.

Yatahay Network - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 120.5 BB
BTN: 100 BB
SB: 173 BB
Hero (BB): 100 BB
UTG: 367.1 BB
MP: 84.9 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K A

fold, MP raises to 2.8 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 11 BB, MP raises to 19.2 BB, Hero raises to 100 BB and is all-in, MP calls 65.7 BB and is all-in

Flop: (170.3 BB, 2 players) T 3 K

Turn: (170.3 BB, 2 players) T

River: (170.3 BB, 2 players) K

Hero shows K A (Full House, Kings full of Tens)
(Pre 7%, Flop 8%, Turn 5%)
MP shows A A (Two Pair, Aces and Kings)
(Pre 93%, Flop 92%, Turn 95%)
Hero wins 161.8 BB


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Villain is unknown. I don't think I can ever raise river for value here? If so it would be very thin I believe.

Yatahay Network - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 176.4 BB
UTG: 126.3 BB
Hero (MP): 112.5 BB
CO: 105.2 BB
BTN: 99.8 BB
SB: 102.3 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A J

UTG raises to 2.5 BB, Hero raises to 8 BB, fold, fold, SB calls 7.5 BB, fold, fold

Flop: (19.5 BB, 2 players) 5 3 8
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (19.5 BB, 2 players) A
SB bets 4.8 BB, Hero calls 4.8 BB

River: (29.1 BB, 2 players) 6
SB bets 7.2 BB, Hero calls 7.2 BB

Hero shows A J (One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 61%, Flop 77%, Turn 100%)
SB shows Q K (High Card, Ace)
(Pre 39%, Flop 23%, Turn 0%)
Hero wins 41.4 BB

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Villain is unknown. Probably lost value here. Plan was to X/C the river, I should have just bet. I lose to KT & T8, but he will call with A9, Q9, J9, A2, and maybe a little wider if he's real bad.

Yatahay Network - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 276.6 BB
Hero (BB): 100 BB
UTG: 174.1 BB
MP: 103.7 BB
CO: 113.2 BB
BTN: 86.3 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 9 9

fold, fold, fold, BTN calls 1 BB, fold, Hero raises to 5 BB, BTN calls 4 BB

Flop: (10.5 BB, 2 players) J Q A
Hero bets 3.3 BB, BTN calls 3.3 BB

Turn: (17.1 BB, 2 players) 9
Hero bets 10.7 BB, BTN calls 10.7 BB

River: (38.5 BB, 2 players) 2
Hero checks, BTN checks

Hero shows 9 9 (Three of a Kind, Nines)
(Pre 55%, Flop 9%, Turn 91%)
BTN shows K Q (One Pair, Queens)
(Pre 45%, Flop 91%, Turn 9%)
Hero wins 36.6 BB

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Defitely lost value here as well. Villain is 88/25/17 over 18 hands. SO likely a whale but too early to tell. I only lose to AJ here, I should have shipped river. Clickbacks always worry me from fish, so I flatted, even though I only lose to AJ.

Yatahay Network - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 118.4 BB
BB: 120.8 BB
UTG: 131.2 BB
CO: 107.5 BB
Hero (BTN): 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J 8

UTG raises to 2 BB, fold, Hero calls 2 BB, fold, fold

Flop: (5.5 BB, 2 players) T K 3
UTG checks, Hero bets 2.6 BB, UTG calls 2.6 BB

Turn: (10.7 BB, 2 players) 9
UTG bets 3.5 BB, Hero calls 3.5 BB

River: (17.7 BB, 2 players) Q
UTG bets 14 BB, Hero raises to 29.5 BB, UTG raises to 45 BB, Hero calls 15.5 BB

UTG shows K 5 (One Pair, Kings)
(Pre 55%, Flop 66%, Turn 68%)
Hero shows J 8 (Straight, King High)
(Pre 45%, Flop 34%, Turn 32%)
Hero wins 102.4 BB

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So I'm clearly losing value in some spots. I think I'm over adjusting because the last couple sessions I have overplayed some hands like bottom sets or lower overpairs. I am feeling much more confident pre-flop right now after working on ranges w/ a coach and practicing them. Being a previous MTT player, it's not surprising to me that pre-flop play is tightening up more quickly for me than post-flop play though. Hopefully can put in some good volume this next week, especially with a few days off work for the holidays.

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12-18-2022 , 11:48 PM
Nice stuff.

I think the QQ hand is probably a remnant from your MTT days. Very rarely will you be getting it in particularly better than flipping with QQ PF in online cash games at the micros, so unless you have specific reads on a player I think it plays far better as a call rather than a 5bet jam. Generally peoples calling off ranges are limited to AKs, KK+, maybe QQ which you block fairly heavily.

The AJs is a GTO world mix call/3bet HJ vs LJ, so I think in the micros the 3bet is fine as people don't 4bet enough. Once you see a flop I think you played it fairly well, and AJ definitely is not much more than a marginal hand in this spot, so you should be check calling only. Too much AQ, AKo in villains 3bet calling range. See the above regarding pool not 4betting enough.

With 4 to a straight and you having the lower end of it, then I think just calling is fine, as you really won't reasonably get called by worse than a chop if you jam here. Villain is a potential whale though, so who tf knows what they'll do, amirite? I don't mind the call down. Lower variance etc etc.

I wouldn't worry about your results over such a short timeframe. As you said, you have been improving your preflop ranges and are adjusting to deep stacked postflop play, so past results will not really reflect where you're at and where you're going.

gnight
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12-18-2022 , 11:55 PM
the 99 hand is a classic case of the same stuff I struggle with. I often get paralyzed on the river with a clear value hand. In this case I think definitely a medium bet is warranted and much higher ev than hoping for villain to go for thin value/bluff the river. Pool underbluffs and does not value bet thinly enough for it to be worthwhile. i made a similar blunder today where as soon as I checked I just knew it was a stupid move. Villain had 2 pair and probably would have called a half pot sized bet otr as played (4 to a straight, but missed flushdraw and the lines taken allowed for wide ranges to arrive at the river.)
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12-21-2022 , 02:14 AM
Weird session overall. Kept bouncing around tables trying to find a decent one, and as soon as I would the game would break. Felt like I spent half my time trying to find a good table. Todays graph:



This was an incredibly strange hand right at the beginning of the session. SB is a reg. BB & MP are total unknowns, only been at the table with them for 3 hands. I have no idea what this idiot is limp minraising with. I struggle to get inside the mind of a fish here. I guess it's roughly any two paints, and maybe AA a larger percentage of time. I don't ****ing know, but I decide I don't want to make a massive raise when I could be dominated, I make the call assuming two players behind will do the same since they just flatted me.

Flop and turn are totally standard, although I felt turn was thin because I now don't actually beat a K. River is weird. I now have a pretty strong hand in relation to the board, and am absolutely at the top of my range which is pretty capped, but I still feel he can show up w/ AK or KJ a lot? So I just called. Probably the weirdest hand I've played since I've been playing again.

Yatahay Network - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 138.7 BB
UTG: 107.4 BB
MP: 241.5 BB
Hero (CO): 103.7 BB
BTN: 99.5 BB
SB: 114.1 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q K

fold, MP calls 1 BB, Hero raises to 4 BB, fold, SB calls 3.5 BB, BB calls 3 BB, MP raises to 7 BB, Hero calls 3 BB, SB calls 3 BB, BB calls 3 BB

Flop: (28 BB, 4 players) 3 K 5
SB checks, BB checks, MP bets 7 BB, Hero calls 7 BB, fold, fold

Turn: (42 BB, 2 players) J
MP bets 10.5 BB, Hero calls 10.5 BB

River: (63 BB, 2 players) K
MP bets 15.7 BB, Hero calls 15.7 BB

Spoiler:
MP shows A A (Two Pair, Aces and Kings)
(Pre 82%, Flop 77%, Turn 89%)
Hero shows Q K (Three of a Kind, Kings)
(Pre 18%, Flop 23%, Turn 11%)
Hero wins 89.7 BB


This hand is against a reg who will X/R flop with overs and barrel turn large ALL the time. I should have folded river when the spade came, I've just seen him take this line so often I knew he didn't have a King, he would never play it like this. I was right, but I'm also a fish for not folding river.

Yatahay Network - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (CO): 102.2 BB
BTN: 100 BB
SB: 161.6 BB
BB: 100.9 BB
UTG: 105.1 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q Q

fold, Hero raises to 2.5 BB, fold, fold, BB calls 1.5 BB

Flop: (5.5 BB, 2 players) 5 K 2
BB checks, Hero bets 1.7 BB, BB raises to 8.2 BB, Hero calls 6.5 BB

Turn: (21.9 BB, 2 players) 3
BB bets 14.1 BB, Hero calls 14.1 BB

River: (50.1 BB, 2 players) 3
BB bets 23.8 BB, Hero calls 23.8 BB

Spoiler:
Hero shows Q Q (Two Pair, Queens and Threes)
(Pre 68%, Flop 56%, Turn 68%)
BB shows J A (Flush, Ace High)
(Pre 32%, Flop 44%, Turn 32%)
BB wins 92.9 BB


Had a note on this guy that he had donk-bet 33 on AK8, and barreled on a brick. So even though this flop and turn is all over his range, I thought I was good enough to call here.

Yatahay Network - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 139.4 BB
MP: 95.4 BB
Hero (CO): 106.5 BB
BTN: 100 BB
SB: 104 BB
BB: 159.1 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 8 8

fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.5 BB, fold, fold, BB calls 1.5 BB

Flop: (5.5 BB, 2 players) 5 6 4
BB bets 8 BB, Hero calls 8 BB

Turn: (21.5 BB, 2 players) 3
BB bets 10.2 BB, Hero calls 10.2 BB

River: (41.9 BB, 2 players) 4
BB checks, Hero checks

Spoiler:
Hero shows 8 8 (Two Pair, Eights and Fours)
(Pre 53%, Flop 77%, Turn 82%)
BB shows T J (One Pair, Fours)
(Pre 47%, Flop 23%, Turn 18%)
Hero wins 39.9 BB


Final hand, I maybe missed out on value here. This is the same reg who X/Rs a lot of flops w/ overs. I call flop with plans to C/R a decent turn, as this board should be hitting my range more than his. But then I catch a K and decide to X/C. OTR, I feel he has a fair amount of bluffs. I beat all his bluffs, so I don't need to raise to fold any out. AT THE TIME, I felt that if I raised, he would only be calling with better Kings, so there was no reason to narrow his range to hands that beat mine.

Now looking at it, I don't know. I'm not good enough to make this determination. If I put his range as (TT+, 77, 44, AKs, K2s+, AKo, KTo+) where some call and some raise, I have 49% equity against that range. If I raise and he jams, I think it's a fold? The more I'm looking at this hand, the more lost I'm getting actually. Would love any input here.

Yatahay Network - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BB): 105.5 BB
UTG: 183 BB
MP: 107.8 BB
CO: 100 BB
BTN: 108 BB
SB: 248.6 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K J

fold, MP raises to 2.5 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 1.5 BB

Flop: (5.5 BB, 2 players) T 7 4
Hero checks, MP bets 1.7 BB, Hero calls 1.7 BB

Turn: (8.9 BB, 2 players) K
Hero checks, MP bets 4.2 BB, Hero calls 4.2 BB

River: (17.3 BB, 2 players) K
Hero checks, MP bets 8.2 BB, Hero calls 8.2 BB
Spoiler:

Hero shows K J (Three of a Kind, Kings)
(Pre 38%, Flop 27%, Turn 89%)
MP shows T A (Two Pair, Kings and Tens)
(Pre 62%, Flop 73%, Turn 11%)
Hero wins 32.1 BB
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12-21-2022 , 04:18 AM
Interesting hand at the end there.

I think it will largely be player dependent. I think the float on the flop with 2 overs is reasonable. It's not a great flop for MP to c-bet bluff on, but you have some turns that you can work with. If villain has a very high c-bet stat then I think as bb defending we can reasonably x/r this flop. Obvs the K is great for you, and as you say the spade and K does allow most of his opening and c-betting range to barrel, so no use raising here. I don't think K9 or worse should be c-betting the flop.

The river is interesting also. It's one of those tricky ones where I think the only raise you potentially get value from would be a large one, and again this has to be dependent on villains river tendencies. if they are stationy then we should raise. Also, a small raise will look too value heavy in many ways.

I think in this spot just calling is fine. KQ probably should raise I think, but you have to puke fold to a 3bet when you do.

We can't always get stacks in. Would be interesting to see what a solver thinks about this spot though.
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