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08-15-2016 , 01:31 PM

#301

ZenForest

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How many hands has he played ?

A graph would be nice for this. Can't do that w/ WSOP I presume.....

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08-15-2016 , 01:50 PM

#302

Fayth

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with no timeframe it's not insane, it's actually inevitable that it's going to happen

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08-15-2016 , 01:58 PM

#303

Fayth

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yeah a couple months sounds reasonable, I have no idea why you think it's hard lol

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08-15-2016 , 03:24 PM

#304

KossuKukkula

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How much there is action at higher stakes?

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08-15-2016 , 03:26 PM

#305

chopsy2

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Originally Posted by Notabot

Okay well I'll def follow along. And if he gets even remotely close I'll eat my hat

is that you think nobody can do this or just HE cant do this?

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08-15-2016 , 04:13 PM

#306

Fayth

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you really have to explain why anybody would need a reload, unless they are a fish or they tilt playing higher than their bankroll allows

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08-15-2016 , 04:15 PM

#307

speedcake

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I'd like to hear more about why you think that's crazy. You are just saying over and over that it is crazy, without explaining why you think it is so?

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08-15-2016 , 04:27 PM

#308

Fayth

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no you don't, 30 buy ins is pretty conventional bankroll management and you don't need a lot of time to turn 100$ into 10 000$, you do understand that he's slowly going to move up right? I'm not sure of how he's doing it but I think he has to move back down if he lose 5 buy ins of the next limit

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08-15-2016 , 04:29 PM

#309

speedcake

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ah, ok so you are just questioning the specific time frame of two months. That's fair, if so. I dont' think it'd be "insane", but it'll take some run good and solid play for sure to have a chance.

I think Doug addressed this a bit last night and said outright this was going to take a long,long time. Especially after how he got rocked in week one.

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08-15-2016 , 04:38 PM

#310

speedcake

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Years? I feel like we bein trolled now.

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08-15-2016 , 04:39 PM

#311

kissmyacehole

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Originally Posted by Notabot

So he's not going to play 100 until he has 3k? Do you know how long it can take to build 100-->3k using a non risky approach? It could take months, years, if ever. Idk I'll just leave it here and be happy to follow along. I have no ill will towards Doug I think he is a slightly above average player

ahat odds are you prepared to lay on doug completing the challenge without reloading ?

I'm happy to place some action with you. Doug or another well known can escrow.

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08-15-2016 , 04:48 PM

#312

speedcake

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Ok. Still won't give an explanation for why you think it will take years, hostile towards people who disagree with you, definitely trollin. And we are getting off topic.

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08-15-2016 , 04:57 PM

#313

Snuffers

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Originally Posted by Notabot

I have no ill will towards Doug I think he is a slightly above average player

It was at this point that everyone stopped taking you seriously.

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08-15-2016 , 05:02 PM

#314

Fayth

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I think it should take from 3 to 6 months, took me about 7 months back in the day starting from a free 60$ from some promotion, although the games were probably easier than they even are on this WSOP site I was also a MUCH worse player than Rider is at the moment, I literally had no knowledge of what poker was and just learned through grinding and reading forums, as long as you move down when you should and move up when you should it's virtually impossible to get down to 0$

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08-15-2016 , 05:19 PM

#315

TheImperator

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Originally Posted by Notabot

You think he's below average player? Jeeze....

:P

No, he's a world-class player, and you absolutely seem like you are trolling.

A lot of us can agree that it will take more than a "couple of months" but to think a world-class player can't make $10k because he had to start in the micros is just ridiculous.

This challenge has been done starting with $0.00 before, by someone whose name I won't mention because of his involvement with FTP. But it was done in 18 months starting with freerolls and zero money. To think another world-class player can't complete this is pretty silly.

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08-15-2016 , 05:20 PM

#316

outfit

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He already had a 25bi downswing. Its inspirational actually.

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08-15-2016 , 05:26 PM

#317

Cobweb

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Well, if nothing else, this is making me feel better about my microstakes performances

Seriously though, Doug I would be very interested in the changes you are making to your game for the micros compared to "competent" opponents

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08-15-2016 , 05:36 PM

#318

ZenForest

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After one week he is up $29, so I think it's safe to say, no way this would happen w/in a month or even two

I would be impressed no matter what the time frame if he makes it happen tho.

Edit: I am far less interested in the time frame as I am in seeing if he can turn a single $100 bullet into $10,000

Totally rooting for him to pull it off.

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08-15-2016 , 05:46 PM

#319

outfit

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Kid Poker started something similar years ago and it never went anywhere. I think its an old thread on here.

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08-15-2016 , 06:00 PM

#320

ClouD87

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Originally Posted by Notabot

Again I'm not saying it hasn't or can't be done. I'm sayin it's very very very difficult to turn one 100 bullet into 10k regardless of timeframe. Add to that any kind of <3-4 month timeframe and its exponentially harder.

Curious, what are you gunna say if in three weeks Doug is at $147 and decides to give up?

Turning 100 dollars or less into thousands and more is basically what every single reg has done. Hundreds of people have done it.

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08-15-2016 , 06:16 PM

#321

Fayth

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ok look, any winning reg has close to a 100% chance of succeeding turning 100$ into 10k with proper brm, the 99 you are talking about that don't are either complete fishes or people who can't follow proper bankroll management, so they would fall into the fish category

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08-15-2016 , 06:18 PM

#322

ClouD87

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The point is for every time one 100 deposit turns into 10k+ there are going to be like 99 that don't. Maybe he has a few % chance better of succeeding than another good player, he will most likely fail or it will take way way way longer than he/other people are expecting

The determining factor in people succeeding at cashgame poker longterm is skill, not luck. If you are good enough you will win. The reason most players lose is that they aren't good enough.

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08-15-2016 , 06:29 PM

#323

z0mgtiltz

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Originally Posted by Notabot

Okay well I'll def follow along. And if he gets even remotely close I'll eat my hat

Tagged
Please post video too

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08-15-2016 , 07:54 PM

#324

Codecci

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If you try to turn $100 into $10,000, follow a 30 buy-in bankroll management, never have to move down and your winrate is 10bb/100 in every stake, it takes you 210K hands to do it:

2NL: 25K hands
5NL: 30K hands
10NL: 45K hands
25NL: 30K hands
50NL: 30K hands
100NL: 30K hands
200NL: 20K hands

I'm not sure if 10bb/100 is doable at 100-200NL, at every lower stake I guess it is, could be even more at lower stakes.

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08-15-2016 , 07:57 PM

#325

Fayth

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It's kind of likely you will have to move down at some point so prob a few more hands, let's say 300k hands to be extra safe, easily doable within 6 months

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