I invested 7000€ into some Index funds today (in the middle of the economic recession).



What do you guys think? Is this the best or the worst time to invest?

Gotta gamble imo

^ My logic for shortstacking was that 90% of fish are short, while all regs are 100bb+ deep.
Therefore, everytime I'd get it in ~100bb deep it would be vs a reg, which would be ~break even on average with high variance.

Also, most regs study only 100bb and don't really ever study under 50bb and how to play vs limps, so I'd have a big edge on them.

It also helped me achieve higher volume.

However, I've decided to only play 100bb+ deep from now on, since I feel that I've pretty much reached the WR cap for 40bb. I've also overestimated how well regs play when deep.

Yeah, they came back few days ago
Multitabling is really limited on PS right now, though :/
RB is also low.

I'll keep playing in the PS Home games club for now, since the RB is better, games are softer and for some reason we're allowed to multi-table.

I don't think anyone has a clue what will happen with the markets. It's literal infinite stimulus vs. prolonged 30% unemployment. Unprecedented stuff. I personally have not jumped back in but I wish you luck.

Have you considered buying crypto for your bankroll/portfolio?

Getting any hands in during the Corona times mate ?

The games have been pretty fun lately





The pool has been 3-4x bigger than usually.

I don't know enough about crypto. I've made some profit with it in the past, bit it seems a bit too risky.

I definitely would suggest to average into the markets rather than plop down everything you want to invest in at once. That way if we fall another 30% you have more money to average down.

+1

Especially regarding index funds, I think it´s pretty dangerous to move all at once, both in normal times and in distressed times like right now. Dollar cost averaging over a decent interval (for example, doing it in a way that would take at least 2 years to put all your risk financial assets at work) seems better imho. Maybe avoiding it over any signs of overvaluation/bubble territory, when it happens again, might be a good idea (or maybe not, but I´d do it myself).

Being so aggressive with just an 8, and 8 and another 8??!

On a serious note


Move up ffs <3

What were you doing vs a shove OTR? calling?

^ I was already all-in on the river. The HH just doesn't say it for some reason

Thanks for the advice.

7k isn't even a majority of my money, though. So it wouldn't be the end of the world even if I somehow lost it all. I look at this from more of a longterm point of view. I intend to keep this money invested for 20+ years and by then I should deffinitely make some profit out of it, no matter how many recessions there will be in between. I'll also probably keep investing money like this annually as I'm earning it, so I will be in a way "averaging" into the markets.

That's a really smart way to invest, wp man.

Imo it's way smarter than going nuts over crypto and studying it pretty hard, specially when a poker player does it, time and mental health are worth way more for us and going deep into that area hurts in both areas pretty hard.

Guys, if anyone else wants to play 20 NLH or 10 PLO in a Slovenian PS Home Games Club with 60% RB, contact me (6 max and 9 max tables).



I have some players already, but am looking for a few more. We can make some nice profit here, the games are reeeally soft.

Dej me notr oz. PM d se zmenva.

Count me in.

April 2020:



It was a low volume month.

Bankroll is at 30.2k



Haven't been playing this deep in quite a while

Some hands:

I'm not sure what the rake cap is but H6 I am calling the guy a moron in chat and spitecalling him. That sort of **** tilts me enough that I'm burning a bit of ev to burn a bit of villain's ev.

I didn't read the other hhs but good luck

H6 I´d say you have to call just to punish the idiot, but yeah, spots like this one are so rare that it isn´t really worth bothering, just fold

Remember the day I did the same play and went all in vs a fish but there I was the one holding the A kicker and the board was J and four 9´s I think. He snap called me with Kx haha

I don't really take these things personally His play might even be GTO

About spitecalling, though... I actually made a thread on this topic a while back:
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/1...alled-1562868/

His play is GTO if we never take it "personal" and fold. Id call v regs and fold vs fish

Wp on that KQ fold, always a KJ after he bombs the flop and goes smaller ott if he is a nit or nitfish. Vs a donk I don't think we can fold lol.

So sick to see you have $30k man, wp. You probably have a bigger roll than a lot of small stakes regs

Btw, who is Rusty?

Vaaaamooo

If villain in h6 knows we're spiting, his nodelocked equilibrium certainly becomes pure check and we'll get more potshare in the future

But for me, the **** you equity and self-satisfaction is just worth half the rake

He is supposed to jam every time, I think. It's a situation that is similar to the prisoner's dilemma

I thought about this a bit more, and I guess the response I like most is to call just enough to make his bets slightly -ev. This saves us rake money vs. the spite 100% strat while still constructing an equilibrium where he should pure check.

This is not really like a "normal" gto spot, because in a normal gto spot it's impossible for us deviating to lose him money. But in this case, we can deviate by calling more and cause his strategy to lose ev. It's actually more like ICM spots in sngs/mtts where if someone knows you're spitecalling he'll be incentivized to jam less vs you (because him jamming pure ICM will actually be torching $).

But in practice I think this kind of betting behavior is kinda lame and degenerate so I'm gonna pure call to cost villain the max amount of rake.

The gto solution of that spot is that OOP has to jam and IP has to fold, that's it. IP gains nothing by calling.

Rapi is right.

Villain can use the same logic vs us and always "spiteshove" no matter what we do. In equilibrium he wins here, that's what that thread was about.

The KQo guy was a nit, yeah. These guys sometimes even flat AK pre and just never bluff like this postflop.

Rusty has been the Poker Theory Forums mod since like 2006. Guy has no life

Wrong, I think. Poker is an iterated game. Solvers don't generate iterated gto solutions -- but this doesn't usually matter, because usually no matter what we do we can't decrease the ev of the gto strategy (this is, broadly speaking, the definition of a gto strategy).

However, in this case, we can decrease OOP ev by spiting to the point where OOP is incentivized to pure check in future iterations, which will then increase our ev in those iterations. Solvers just aren't equipped to handle these kind of spots.

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To give this a more human element, let's say we're playing hu and you get this spot, overbet jam, and I spite you and we both lose rake, plus tell you in chat that in the future I'm going to spite you every time in pure chop spots.

The next time a pure chop spot comes up, what's the ev maximizing play for you? It'll be check. But then I get to check and take half the pot as well. This is because of the weird feature that if you know you're getting spitecalled, your options are 1) jam anyway and we both donate more money to the pokersite or 2) you check and we actually both make more money.

In this spot if you believe you're getting called, it's actually max ev for both of us to purecheck and basically take money for ourselves away from the site. It's a pretty unique feature of these spots though.