do you mind sharing what site you used to play on now that you cant play there anymore?

Its lol money. You should pay like 50% of your profit to someone who allows you to cheat.

I used to rent accounts (small networks) for 350€/one and 1000€/package per month. Good luck for your 100€/y offer

My best suggestion is you move to Italy and make legit accs on your name (if they havent joined the EU network already)

Why don't you do Bodog? 25nl Zone? No huds though. But, lots more people, and 25nl easier than 10nl on ACR, other WPN skins.

WPN has skins that will allow your country, but more bots, can use huds, but blitz is weird there. Can get rakeback, sign up through affiliate.

Just find something that is your own account. Otherwise, expect to pay art least $100/month.

Zkesic I am ̶o̶n̶e̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶b̶i̶g̶g̶e̶s̶t̶, ̶a̶m̶o̶n̶g̶ ̶y̶o̶u̶r̶ ̶m̶o̶s̶t̶ ̶h̶a̶r̶d̶c̶o̶r̶e̶, ̶h̶y̶p̶e̶r̶ ̶m̶e̶g̶a̶ ̶d̶e̶d̶i̶c̶a̶t̶e̶d̶

What I'm trying to say Zkesic - I am simply your ***#1***

Brothers until we die, Zkesic.

*snorts another line of bees* woooh!

^Thanks for the praise, Finland. It's great that you finally appreciate my micro-ways.

That's not really how the economy works. Also, it's not cheating, just against the terms of service.
I'm only willing to pay $100/year for this. So, if someone wants the free money, contact me. Otherwise, just go on with your life

For now, I'll just play on Party Poker or something.

Thanks for the info, FutureInsights.

Also, have fun during the WW3, everyone! Remember to film horizontally.

With no leverage you're gonna take the ass end of it. $100/year is literally nothing while someone's providing a way for you to attempt to make an income in games you otherwise wouldn't be able to play.

While I think 50% of your winnings is way too high, $100/year is ridiculously low. I wouldn't even think of doing it for < $300/month considering the info itt wrt graphs and expenses.

Not trying to be a hater but using someone else's account kind of is cheating. There's a bit of a grey area in who was previously using the account, whether they were a giant fish and if they've played a hand recently which will make it more (or less) like cheating.

I understand what you guys are saying. However, since I'm able to play on some sites legally from my country, you also have to understand that paying ~3.6k/year or whatever, just to play on a site that I like a bit more isn't really +EV for me.

~100€/year is as much as I'm willing to pay for it. It's weird that you guys aren't looking at it from the other point of view - With just few clicks one of you can create a passive income of 100€/year, with no risk. Seems pretty good to me.

Your thinking only of your own EV, but a market has a buyer and a seller to be agreed on. The seller doesn't care about your circunstances, just the value of his own account and the possibility of being blocked in the future. It seems there's a big spread to have a deal. I can see someone selling some MPN account for 100/year though.

If he is playing on someone elses account, I can't think of any way where he can feel 100% confident his money is secure.

GL homie, follow your dreams!

Come on guys thats almost 9€ a month your passing up on cold hard cash

That's quite the haul to deal with a mysterious poker player using your technology.

I've actually done the math few days ago: Since the November, I've spent ~740€ on MTG cards. It really is an expensive hobby
However, luckly I'll probably be alive for at least ~50 more years, which means that technically I'm only spending ~1.2€/month on these cards, which really isn't much.

Thanks for showing me the light, guys. Your logic is great!

I'll go to the store right now and buy me some 50€ bottles of whisky to celebrate. It's only like 0.08€/month anyways.

Damn, life must be fun for you guys.

5 people have contacted me so far and I'm in the process of making it happen with one of them.

That person will likely get 1k+ out of me lifetime and all he had to do only took him few hours, if not minutes. He is technically making 500€+/hour, which is more than pretty much any job.

Yikes. Be careful. It's going to be very easy for any of them to claim they were hacked and get the money in the account.

I don't think anyone here is jealous . They're probably getting < $0.10/hr from what you play.

I'll make the account myself on a site that they don't know. I'll also be cash outing my winnings regularly and never have more than few hundred on the account. I've thought everything over carefully and came up with a pretty safe process.

Thanks for the warning anyways.

Which deck did you buy?

I bought a Core 2020 Booster Box + 4 Throne of Eldraine Booster Boxes (3 of them as an investment ) + some single cards.

I don't buy made decks. The main fun in the game for me is building unique decks by myself.

I'll stop spending money on MTG for now, though. I'll buy some Theros basic lands when they come out, but that's really the only thing I like from that set.

Jace the Mind Sculptor

OP have you ever played live cash games? If so, what's your opinion on playing live cash for a living?

I used to play in some underground 50nl - 200nl live cash games, but I spent way more time as a dealer in those (it was more profitable and my family owned one of the rooms). I played mainly to start the tables when there weren't enough players.

This is my lifetime graph for playing in live cash games:



Overall you'd have to play at least 200nl to do it for a living (depends on how much per hour you'd like to make).

Live poker is definitely way softer, so your win rate can be a lot higher, however, the number of hands per hour you play is way lower. Online you can easily play 1000+ hands/hr, while live you can be happy with 30-50 hands/hr.

Therefore, even if you're crushing 200nl for 20bb/100 (after rake and tips), you're still only making 12-20€ per hour. You have to also consider the time that it takes you to drive to the casino and the time you spend waiting for the game to start.

The variance in live games is also a lot higher, because of the low amount of hands you play per hour. You need a bigger bankroll to have the same hourly as online (but it's easier to achieve this hourly).

Overall, live poker is easier, more fun and you meet many interesting people. For playing poker seriously (professionally) though, I obviously chose the online option as it gives me more constant income and an easier way of tracking my play history/improve. It also challenges me more.

Good luck getting anywhere near 50hph in a casino

This isn't crushing for live, in the live realm winrates are measured in bb/hour, and 10bb/hour is typically considered very good.

The lower amount of hands you play per hour has no affect on variance. Standard deviations will run higher because of more multiway pots, though.

You only need a bigger bankroll for live because you're playing higher stakes than online typically. In terms of buyins, you don't need anywhere near as many for live (again because winrate is higher and that's the biggest factor in variance).

Unless the game plays really deep, playing 1/2 live for a living is almost always going to be a horrible decision!