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05-01-2024 , 01:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ZKesic
Solver would've probably checked the turn, especially with K and I just didn't have an exploitative reason to deviate.

Are you saying that the rec will call a turn shove more than MDF and not bet often enough vs a check? It's possible, I just didn't have a solid reason/MDA data to think so.
It seems completely plausible to me that he'd float the flop with air vs the small bet and then bluff jam the turn. Or thin value shove low pairs to protect vs ~AK.

I honestly am not sure what the optimal line is, but am open to opinions.


What do you think about checking the river with KK? Could that be a thing?
I guess I don't know... but I'd imagine he'd have a lot of pp, maybe some broadways/AX.. I don't expect him to bluff turn when x to very often and would expect most of his pairs to always call a jam. You also run into fish just calling the turn with hands like AQ high non-zero amt also.

I wouldn't have included j7o in his range though, so there is that.

The more he bluffs or jams his pp when x to the more reasonable it is to x turn, but I'd imagine turn x freq here is quite high personally. 18bb 3b pre was pretty large and turn is ~1spr.
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05-01-2024 , 03:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DooDooPoker
Checking turn is good since we are vs a fish and we know how they play after calling flop (they bet turn 10% more than theory).
Yeah, but they can also underfold turns vs a barrel. This makes these spots pretty tricky (even in SRP).

Quote:
Originally Posted by DooDooPoker
Another thing to note is the fish call2bet/call3bet range is very wide as you can see here so we always cbet range OTF.
I'm aware of that
They also don't raise enough, which makes it even more of a range bet.
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06-02-2024 , 10:00 PM
May 2024:



Challenge progress: 76k/100k

I didn't have time to play a lot of poker this month due to various wedding preparations, birthdays and practices for the first dance. My goal for June is to play 50k+ hands and make at least 2k profit from poker.

I ended up buying a 1000€ suit. There were probably cheaper options, but I liked this one:
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Some dumb hands:
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H1: The sickest hero call ever?
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Hold'em No Limit - €0.25/€0.50 - 5 players

UTG: €91.59 (183 bb)
CO (Hero): €32.27 (65 bb)
BU: €51.50 (103 bb)
SB: €30.08 (60 bb)
BB: €95.69 (191 bb)

Pre-Flop: (€0.75) Hero is CO with J T
1 fold, Hero raises to €1.10, BTN calls €1.10, SB calls €0.85, 1 fold

Flop: (€3.80) 8 3 Q (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: (€3.80) 4 (3 players)
SB bets €2.88, Hero calls €2.88, BU folds

River: (€9.56) K (2 players)
SB bets €5.50, Hero calls €5.50

Total pot: €20.56 (Rake: €1.02)

Showdown:
SB shows Q K (two pair, Kings and Queens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 62%, Flop: 57%, Turn: 75%, River: 100%)

CO (Hero) shows J T (high card, King)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 38%, Flop: 43%, Turn: 25%, River: 0%)

SB wins €19.54

H2: Vs a whale
Spoiler:
Hold'em No Limit - €0.25/€0.50 - 5 players

UTG: €88.98 (178 bb)
CO: €155.51 (311 bb)
BU (Hero): €55.60 (111 bb)
SB: €33.69 (67 bb)
BB: €197.09 (394 bb)

Pre-Flop: (€0.75) Hero is BTN with A 8
2 players fold, Hero raises to €1.10, SB 3-bets to €17.70, 1 fold, Hero 4-bets to €39.15, SB calls €15.99 (all-in)

Flop: (€67.88) 3 2 3 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: (€67.88) 4 (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (€67.88) 2 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: €67.88 (Rake: €3)

Showdown:
BU (Hero) shows A 8 (two pair, Threes and Twos)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 28%, Flop: 14%, Turn: 16%, River: 0%)

SB shows J J (two pair, Jacks and Threes)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 72%, Flop: 86%, Turn: 84%, River: 100%)

SB wins €64.88

Imagine how much money I'd have if I just learned to fold

H3: Vs a reg
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Hold'em No Limit - €0.25/€0.50 - 4 players

UTG: €50.00 (100 bb)
BU (Hero): €16.25 (33 bb)
SB: €42.55 (85 bb)
BB: €27.05 (54 bb)

Pre-Flop: (€0.75) Hero is BTN with J A
UTG raises to €1.15, Hero 3-bets to €3, 2 players fold, UTG calls €1.85

Flop: (€6.75) 2 3 8 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

Turn: (€6.75) 6 (2 players)
UTG bets €3.50, Hero calls €3.50

River: (€13.75) 4 (2 players)
UTG bets €11, Hero calls €9.75 (all-in)

Total pot: €33.25 (Rake: €1.66)

Showdown:
UTG shows T Q (high card, Queen)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 39%, Flop: 22%, Turn: 14%, River: 0%)

BU (Hero) shows J A (high card, Ace)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 61%, Flop: 78%, Turn: 86%, River: 100%)

BU (Hero) wins €31.59
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06-03-2024 , 06:52 AM
Looking fly Z. Good choice 👍

Also nice results as usual
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06-03-2024 , 01:23 PM
Hard to go wrong owning at least one very nice suit. Keep trucking!

Folding is boring.
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06-30-2024 , 08:00 PM
June 2024:



Challenge progress: 77.1k/100k

Nothing super special happened this month poker-wise. Played medium volume and coached a bit.

I'll give myself an arbitrary goal to play 40k+ hands in July, even though I'll spend 1-2 weeks on a vacation, so it might not happen.

Some recent hands:
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H1: I need 80% Fold Equity here.
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Hold'em No Limit - €0.25/€0.50 - 4 players

UTG: €99.76 (200 bb)
BU: €51.35 (103 bb)
SB: €66.28 (133 bb)
BB (Hero): €17.65 (35 bb)

Pre-Flop: (€0.75) Hero is BB with 9 Q
UTG raises to €1.25, 2 players fold, Hero calls €0.75

Flop: (€2.75) 9 3 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks

Turn: (€2.75) 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks

River: (€2.75) A (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets €2.06, Hero raises to €16.40 (all-in), UTG folds

Total pot: €6.87 (Rake: €0.34)
BB (Hero) wins €6.53

H2: He wasn't repping much.
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Hold'em No Limit - €0.25/€0.50 - 4 players

UTG: €42.60 (85 bb)
BU: €143.91 (288 bb)
SB: €51.95 (104 bb)
BB (Hero): €20.47 (41 bb)

Pre-Flop: (€0.75) Hero is BB with A 5
1 fold, BTN raises to €1.25, 1 fold, Hero calls €0.75

Flop: (€2.75) 9 8 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: (€2.75) 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets €4.12, Hero calls €4.12

River: (€10.99) 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets €16, Hero calls €15.10 (all-in)

Total pot: €41.19 (Rake: €2.05)

Showdown:
BU shows 3 4 (a pair of Eights)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 39%, Flop: 9%, Turn: 0%, River: 0%)

BB (Hero) shows A 5 (two pair, Eights and Fives)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 61%, Flop: 91%, Turn: 100%, River: 100%)

BB (Hero) wins €39.14

H3: Vs a nit.
Spoiler:
Hold'em No Limit - €0.25/€0.50 - 5 players

UTG: €73.69 (147 bb)
CO: €41.14 (82 bb)
BU: €79.31 (159 bb)
SB: €53.97 (108 bb)
BB (Hero): €18.13 (36 bb)

Pre-Flop: (€0.75) Hero is BB with A T
2 players fold, BTN raises to €1.25, 1 fold, Hero calls €0.75

Flop: (€2.75) 3 9 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets €0.90, Hero calls €0.90

Turn: (€4.55) Q (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets €1.50, Hero raises to €6.08, BTN calls €4.58

River: (€16.71) 8 (2 players)
Hero bets €9.90 (all-in), BTN calls €9.90

Total pot: €36.51 (Rake: €1.82)

Showdown:
BB (Hero) shows A T (a pair of Nines)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 67%, Flop: <1%, Turn: 0%, River: 0%)

BU shows A 9 (three of a kind, Nines)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 33%, Flop: >99%, Turn: 100%, River: 100%)

BU wins €34.69

Last edited by ZKesic; 06-30-2024 at 08:11 PM.
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08-29-2024 , 11:00 AM
August 2024:



Challenge progress: 77.8k/100k

Didn't play much recently due to a bunch of IRL stuff.

Next month my goal will be to play 30k hands in the 1st half. Afterwards I'll have a 2 week honeymoon vacation.

If anyone wants to discuss some hands:

Spoiler:
H1: Vs a reg

Hold'em No Limit - €0.25/€0.50 - 3 players
Replay this hand on Pokeit

BU: €50.00 (100 bb)
SB (Hero): €23.00 (46 bb)
BB: €78.99 (158 bb)

Pre-Flop: (€0.75) Hero is SB with T A
1 fold, Hero raises to €1.44, BB calls €0.94

Flop: (€2.88) 8 3 4 (2 players)
Hero bets €0.72, BB calls €0.72

Turn: (€4.32) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets €2.16, Hero calls €2.16

River: (€8.64) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets €6.48, Hero calls €6.48

Total pot: €21.60 (Rake: €1.08)

Showdown:
BB shows T K (high card, King)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 25%, Flop: 12%, Turn: 7%, River: 0%)

SB (Hero) shows T A (high card, Ace)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 75%, Flop: 88%, Turn: 93%, River: 100%)

SB (Hero) wins €20.52

H2:

Hold'em No Limit - €0.25/€0.50 - 5 players
Replay this hand on Pokeit

UTG: €16.17 (32 bb)
CO: €62.44 (125 bb)
BU: €237.43 (475 bb)
SB: €54.00 (108 bb)
BB (Hero): €21.99 (44 bb)

Pre-Flop: (€0.75) Hero is BB with A J
1 fold, CO raises to €1.10, 2 players fold, Hero 3-bets to €4, CO calls €2.90

Flop: (€8.25) 3 8 5 (2 players)
Hero bets €2.22, CO calls €2.22

Turn: (€12.69) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

River: (€12.69) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets €56.22 (all-in), Hero calls €15.77 (all-in)

Total pot: €44.23 (Rake: €2.21)

Showdown:
CO shows A T (high card, Ace)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 32%, Flop: 19%, Turn: 11%, River: 0%)

BB (Hero) shows A J (high card, Ace - higher kicker)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 68%, Flop: 81%, Turn: 89%, River: 100%)

BB (Hero) wins €42.02

H3: Is this the optimal line vs a rec? I'm unsure. Turn check or a smaller bet both seem like decent options, as do flop cbet and check-call.

Hold'em No Limit - €0.25/€0.50 - 5 players
Replay this hand on Pokeit

UTG (Hero): €46.82 (94 bb)
CO: €50.00 (100 bb)
BU: €15.71 (31 bb)
SB: €49.50 (99 bb)
BB: €78.31 (157 bb)

Pre-Flop: (€0.75) Hero is UTG with Q T
Hero raises to €1.10, 1 fold, BTN calls €1.10, 2 players fold

Flop: (€2.95) 8 2 J (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets €1.47, Hero raises to €3.68, BTN calls €2.21

Turn: (€10.31) 4 (2 players)
Hero bets €10.93, BU folds

Total pot: €10.31 (Rake: €0.51)
UTG (Hero) wins €9.80

Last edited by ZKesic; 08-29-2024 at 11:12 AM.
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08-29-2024 , 11:55 AM
How's the married life going?

What's the plan for honeymoon?
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08-29-2024 , 01:00 PM
^ The married life is surprisingly similar to the life before marriage

The wedding was really fun. Truly a once in a lifetime experience.

For honeymoon we're going to Maldives. It's gonna cost ~5000€, but will hopefully be worth it.
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08-29-2024 , 02:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ZKesic
^ The married life is surprisingly similar to the life before marriage

The wedding was really fun. Truly a once in a lifetime experience.

For honeymoon we're going to Maldives. It's gonna cost ~5000€, but will hopefully be worth it.
Yes, married life is no different. The big change is when you end up getting some kids.

Sounds great! Take pictures to share with us.
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10-31-2024 , 06:00 PM
October 2024:



Challenge progress: 78.7k/100k

My volume has been pretty awful lately, partially because of the wedding stuff, but also due to my sheer laziness.

The last time that I had a 40k+ hand month was back in March, so I'm setting that as my goal for November. If I don't reach 40k hands, I'll send €50 to one of the last five people who post here as a penalty.

I set this rule to limit my procrastination, as I happen to be more greedy than I am lazy.

Some hands:

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H1: Which one of us played it worse?
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$0.25/$0.50 No Limit Holdem
5 Players

Stacks:
UTG ($54.48) 109bb
CO ($65.09) 130bb
BTN ($13.50) 27bb
SB ($15.25) 31bb
BB Hero ($20) 40bb

Pre-Flop: (0.75, 5 players) Hero is BB A 7
UTG raises to $1.25, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.75

Flop: 7 J 10 ($2.75)
Hero checks, UTG checks

Turn: 6 ($2.75)
Hero bets $0.74, UTG calls $0.74

River: 9 ($4.23, 2)
Hero checks, UTG bets $3.17, Hero calls $3.17

Final Pot: $10.57
Hero shows
A 7
UTG shows
A 7

H2: oopsie
Spoiler:
Hold'em No Limit - €0.25/€0.50 - 5 players

UTG: €49.75 (100 bb)
CO: €61.18 (122 bb)
BU (Hero): €14.47 (29 bb)
SB: €116.73 (233 bb)
BB: €50.00 (100 bb)

Pre-Flop: (€0.75) Hero is BTN with 8 9
2 players fold, Hero raises to €1.10, 1 fold, BB calls €0.60

Flop: (€2.45) A 6 K (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (€2.45) 4 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets €3, BB calls €3

River: (€8.45) T (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets €10.37, BB calls €10.37

Final Pot: $28.75
BB shows 4 4 (three of a kind, Fours)

BB wins €27.74

H3: Somehow they are just always at the top of their range
Spoiler:
$0.25/$0.50 No Limit Holdem
5 Players

Stacks:
UTG ($52.66) 105bb
CO ($44.13) 88bb
BTN ($67.76) 136bb
SB Hero ($14.50) 29bb
BB ($98.38) 197bb

Pre-Flop: (0.75, 5 players) Hero is SB 2 A
3 folds, Hero raises to $1.44, BB calls $0.94

Flop: 10 5 J ($2.63, 2 players)
Hero checks, BB checks

Turn: Q ($2.63)
Hero bets $1.44, BB calls $1.44

River: 2 ($5.51, 2)
Hero bets $11.62, BB calls $11.62

Final Pot: $28.75
BB shows
K 9

H4: SB was a nit. Could you ever fold this?
Spoiler:
Hold'em No Limit - €0.25/€0.50 - 5 players

UTG: €14.58 (29 bb)
CO (Hero): €22.11 (44 bb)
BU: €50.50 (101 bb)
SB: €51.17 (102 bb)
BB: €61.64 (123 bb)

Pre-Flop: (€0.75) Hero is CO with A T
UTG calls €0.50, Hero raises to €1.60, 1 fold, SB calls €1.35, 2 players fold

Flop: (€4.20) 4 4 T (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets €1.29, SB calls €1.29

Turn: (€6.78) A (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets €4.74, SB calls €4.74

River: (€16.26) K (2 players)
SB bets €14.50, Hero calls €14.48 (all-in)

Total pot: €45.22 (Rake: €2.26)
SB shows Q J (a flush, King high)

SB wins €42.96

We only lose to one combo of [QcJc]
However, his whole bluffing range is probably exactly [].
FML. Seems foldable.

H5: No one calls the river with A9, right?
Spoiler:
$0.25/$0.50 No Limit Holdem

Stacks:
CO ($50.59) 101bb
BTN ($63.50) 127bb
SB Hero ($41.60) 83bb
BB ($56.57) 113bb

Pre-Flop: (0.75, 4 players) Hero is SB K J
2 folds, Hero raises to $1.94, BB calls $1.44

Flop: A 6 Q ($3.88)
Hero checks, BB checks

Turn: 3 ($3.88)
Hero checks, BB bets $1.94, Hero raises to $10.20, BB calls $8.26

River: 6 ($24.28)
Hero bets $29.46 (all-in), BB folds


Quote:
Originally Posted by Brokenstars
Yes, married life is no different. The big change is when you end up getting some kids.

Sounds great! Take pictures to share with us.
Yeah, it's a bigger difference for couples that didn't already live together before the marriage.

I'm both terrified and excited about having kids. The lifestyle change will be huge, but surely worth it.

Here are two pics:
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Our wedding

Me in Maldives

Last edited by ZKesic; 10-31-2024 at 06:10 PM.
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10-31-2024 , 06:29 PM
Thanks for the pictures and congratulations again.
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10-31-2024 , 09:09 PM
H1: Villain reopening A7s was the worse by miles IMO.

H2: Fine I guess.

H3: Haha, I think I'm running worse in spots similar to this one tho.

H4: Vs a nit? Yes, I think I could.

H5: Some do
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10-31-2024 , 10:42 PM
You have just about 1k hours of playing to the end.
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11-02-2024 , 07:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Peace&Love
H1: Villain reopening A7s was the worse by miles IMO.
We were probably both pretty far from solver approved

Quote:
Originally Posted by Peace&Love
H4: Vs a nit? Yes, I think I could.
Yeah, I tanked for really long. Was close to folding, but there's legit only one combo that beats me there. I convinced myself that he might have ~AxJc.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Haizemberg93
You have just about 1k hours of playing to the end.
I've been making around $32/hr this year. At this hourly it'll take me around 353 hours to finish the challenge.
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11-02-2024 , 09:47 PM
You can do it by the end of the year!
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11-03-2024 , 05:00 PM
Technically, I could run 10 marathons by the end of the year too, but let's be real - it ain't happening
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11-03-2024 , 07:34 PM
Hey ZKesic, sorry if you already answered this and I am just being repetitive, but is poker still your main source of income? If yes, will you still play for a living after reaching 100k? Finally, I just realized the title, and your goal, was to make 100k playing 20nl, and you're playing higher. That's cheating my friend

GLGL
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11-04-2024 , 01:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Peace&Love
Hey ZKesic, sorry if you already answered this and I am just being repetitive, but is poker still your main source of income? If yes, will you still play for a living after reaching 100k? Finally, I just realized the title, and your goal, was to make 100k playing 20nl, and you're playing higher. That's cheating my friend

GLGL
Yes, poker is my main source of income. I also play on some untracked sites, which I'm not including in this challenge, and on the side I make money from coaching people. This together is more than enough to cover all of my expenses.

Even after reaching the 100k profit goal, I plan to keep playing. There's no reason to stop

I made the first ~40k profit playing exclusively at 20nl. Eventually, as the speed games on iPoker died off, I transitioned to 50nl.
While it may feel like a slight "cheat," my hourly rate is better at 50nl, so it just makes sense to finish the challenge there.
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11-04-2024 , 07:46 PM
vwp sir, and congratz on almost reaching your goal, not many people that I know keep updating their threads year in and year out til the challenge is complete, for the # of years you're doing it (I know I don't lol) so you have all my compliments for that.
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11-19-2024 , 07:36 AM
wow, very great job so far. almost there.
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11-20-2024 , 10:58 AM
Impressive journey.
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11-30-2024 , 11:00 AM
I've been wondering about these spots:

Hold'em No Limit - €0.25/€0.50 - 5 players
Replay this hand on Pokeit

UTG (Hero): €41.44 (83 bb)
CO: €57.39 (115 bb)
BU: €17.43 (35 bb)
SB: €50.00 (100 bb)
BB: €45.00 (90 bb)

Pre-Flop: (€0.75) Hero is UTG with Q J
Hero raises to €1.10, CO 3-bets to €3.70, 2 players fold, BB calls €3.20, Hero 4-bets to €41.44 (all-in), 2 players fold

Total pot: €11.35 (Rake: €0)
UTG (Hero) wins €11.35
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I've been completely improvising in them, but don't actually have a good strategy rn.

There were times when I got really burnt.

My logic for shoving hands like QJs are mainly:
Reg isn't gonna call with AQ, which is good for us as we have more equity vs AK.
If fish calls our shove he will mostly have low pocket pairs. This is why I think QJs > A5s / 66.

But then again, the best play might just be to call. It's really hard to decide at this stack depth.
You can apply the same question to 100bb stacks.

What do you guys think?

Last edited by ZKesic; 11-30-2024 at 11:19 AM.
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11-30-2024 , 09:00 PM
I'm not confident about any of the postflop decisions in this one:



But tbh, no matter which line I took, I'd probably end up in a gross river spot either way.
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11-30-2024 , 10:19 PM
QJs jam is a thing vs SB 3bet esp if they use bigger size and I agree with this logic. In this spot in probably depends on a fish, they can show up with AJo/AQo/JJ/QQ making is probably bad imo, regs range is also tighter given its CO 3BET.

TJo I would just call vs 1/2 stab, its more polar so he dose not have that much pp trash Ax ect that make you want to raise. AP-Maybe tiny block otr, when you check he just bets better hands for value and some draws, putting you in close to 0ev spot.
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