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11-18-2020 , 09:38 AM
This post is another sign of your biggest leak, entitlement

You keep posting over and over how tilted you are because things aren’t in your control, or someone sucked out on me for stacks, waaaa waaaa waaaa

Go home to mommy before you lose your roll.

If your looking for help, post hands that matter-that hand is just a cooler that everyone has experienced and no one feels sorry for you

(You really need a mentor/coach or you are not going make it-you are way too immature and not nearly ready to deal with the poker world around the game-yes LV is the most shallow fake place on the planet, and many of the people you are going to meet are broken, what did you expect?)
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11-18-2020 , 09:47 AM
I’m not sure why you think I’m looking for empathy?

Mid session I’m not going to post a spot where a double barrel went awry or when I folded JJs to a cold 4-bet from a nit.

I don’t care what you think and would like you to never post in this thread again.

Read your post over and hopefully you’ll be able to figure out why.

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Originally Posted by RoadtoPro
Table #1 breaks, lots of small/mid-sized pots there that I’ll potentially post later, and we get moved to a new game.
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Yeah sure, when I’m grinding full time hours WHILE traveling around and being busy I’m not going to post tons of hands for feedback.

Of course, it’s going to be the highlights.

I am not crying about run bad. I am simply posting an honest account of what is taking place. If we won that pot.... we would still be posting that hand.

If I was entitled, I would not be dragging my *** to the tables when I am feeling like **** and could come up with hundreds of excuses as to why it would be perfectly fine for me not to play for however long.

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is this blog worth the personal attacks and all the hate? I’m not sure it is tbh. Super annoying. A few miserable people just ruining it for everyone else.

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11-18-2020 , 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Xenoblade
I would donk a good bit smaller given nobody ever hero calls this board texture, make it a price they can’t pass on, not like we’re balanced here and have any bluffs, im thinking 1/10 pot at most
Yeah for sure, got a little excited. First hand at the table and was a little out of my element in that hand.

Thanks for dropping in!

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Originally Posted by IAMthepokerhack
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just FYI- you’re on my ignore list now so I can’t see the garbage you post anymore.

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11-18-2020 , 10:25 AM
I am with team RTP. Dont let the toxicnon constructive haters ruin this thread and experience for you.

As i mentioned earlier, its not that easy to be young/hungry/up and coming- and at the same time get a shitton of heat/advice from "everyone".To be honest i think you handle it pretty well.
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11-18-2020 , 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by RoadtoPro
I want to go homeeeeee

I hate it here, higher frequency of shallow people than anywhere I’ve been to.

same is true back home for downtown LA but we’re in a suburb in LA county and it’s overall fine back home.

simple, not glamorous lifestyle is than better than this ****
This is why most people go to Las Vegas for just 2-4 days at a time. It would be best to go home. Don't end up hating poker because you overdosed on it.

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Originally Posted by RoadtoPro
I would’ve started playing a while ago but I feel like death so procrastinating a bit.

My eyes are very red, which concerns me a little. I also don’t feel too good and my muscles hurt a lot. I have not lifted anything heavy in a week so not sure what that’s about. It’s whatever, absolutely not taking two days off in a row. Maybe I should play 1/3 (again) like some of you have suggested though I dunno.

thanks for reading.
I don't like telling you this, but my son who is 1 year younger than you felt this way Sunday. He got tested and has Covid. Get tested and isolated.
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11-18-2020 , 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by RoadtoPro
I want to go homeeeeee

I hate it here, higher frequency of shallow people than anywhere I’ve been to.

same is true back home for downtown LA but we’re in a suburb in LA county and it’s overall fine back home.

simple, not glamorous lifestyle is than better than this ****
Can you expand on what you mean by this? Shallow in what sense?
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11-18-2020 , 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by venice10
I don't like telling you this, but my son who is 1 year younger than you felt this way Sunday. He got tested and has Covid. Get tested and isolated.
I was gonna say the same. Muscle weakness/aches could easily be a symptom of the flu or Covid.
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11-18-2020 , 08:22 PM
I'm just gonna chime in here since I'm the one person that defended RtP's decision to play poker during a pandemic, and now seemingly less than a week later I'm the one laying in bed the last 3 and half days with what is most likely covid-19. So everyone can have fun at my expense about that.

However, regardless of whether he has covid-19 or not I still think his decision to play poker is ok provided he takes appropriate actions when he does get sick in order to mitigate the spread.
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11-18-2020 , 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Petrucci
I am with team RTP. Dont let the toxicnon constructive haters ruin this thread and experience for you.

As i mentioned earlier, its not that easy to be young/hungry/up and coming- and at the same time get a shitton of heat/advice from "everyone".To be honest i think you handle it pretty well.
Petrucci, I really appreciate that man!

I’m not sure I’ll be able to develop that skill. I think a lot of it is because I try to (go out of my way) and be genuinely kind to most people I meet and that is usually reciprocated.

But here, people just take every opportunity to point out every flaw in my decision making/temperament and given that I am going to lose over 30% of my sessions and sometimes twice that amount etc. there are a lot of opportunities for that.

These are just people that struggled to do the same things that I’m trying to do at the end of the day and want to make themselves feel better.

It’s OK. If this thread continues- we r going to have a lotttttt of fun quoting in 2024-26.

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Originally Posted by venice10
This is why most people go to Las Vegas for just 2-4 days at a time. It would be best to go home. Don't end up hating poker because you overdosed on it.

I don't like telling you this, but my son who is 1 year younger than you felt this way Sunday. He got tested and has Covid. Get tested and isolated.
Thanks for the concern, Venice. Wrt poker overdosing we can’t really avoid that right? Part of the “job description”.

I’m not worried about burnout, working hard is all we know- however I am worried that I’ll just feel tempted to move on to something more lucrative/with more upward mobility/stability every time I get rest.

Hope your son feels better.

We have a sore throat and fever now as we wake up (past 3pm today) so you’re probably right.

However, there is simply no chance I am going to let people tell me I’m soft, entitled, won’t make it. We r grinding it out.

I’m confident in my play for the most part, just need to win the big ones.

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Originally Posted by SpinMeRightRound
Can you expand on what you mean by this? Shallow in what sense?
inb4 the “YeAH bUT arEN’T yOU shALLow bY plAYIng wITh SYMptoms dURIng a PAndeMcic?”

Thinking about it now, that was meant to be more of a comment on the environment specifically in addition to the people.

But everyone seems to be out for themselves and the environment in the Vegas card rooms/casinos is FAR less friendly/hospitable than in the Texas card rooms.

Gross vibes and too much glitz and glamour.

The whole city seems like a massive trap.

For example, a lot of the cocktail waitresses are flirty with you, but they’re just out for tips. Wtf?

In Texas, 95%+ of the workers are just being themselves and are genuinely kind.

lol sample size though.

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Originally Posted by browni3141
I was gonna say the same. Muscle weakness/aches could easily be a symptom of the flu or Covid.
What can you do man. This is what I signed up for and we were, unfortunately, waiting a long time for this.

Not even at the halfway point on this trip.
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11-18-2020 , 08:37 PM
Do they offer testing at the casino for patrons? I suppose they have a cvs and walgreens at every corner but I can't help but think the casino would offer an easy process to get tested for patrons that want it. Yes/no?
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11-18-2020 , 08:41 PM
I would say what you can do is not potentially kill someone directly by playing when you likely have covid-19, and not potentially kill many people indirectly by playing when you likely have covid-19. The fact that you will probably lose money at the tables should make this an even easier decision.
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11-18-2020 , 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by RoadtoPro
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We’re going to pretend like the most likely scenario isn’t that it just folds around?
I would think less than 10% of the time either of the two limpers are gonna fold to a 4bb bet from the SB in the games I've played. They're limping to call and A9o just is not a hand to play out of position

remember what Rob said in chat....your goal from the SB isn't to win...it's to lose as little as possible

you simply have to open your mind to accept that your erroneous idea of how you will play at 50/100 means that these plays are correct.
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11-18-2020 , 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by RoadtoPro
Petrucci, I really appreciate that man!

I’m not sure I’ll be able to develop that skill. I think a lot of it is because I try to (go out of my way) and be genuinely kind to most people I meet and that is usually reciprocated.

But here, people just take every opportunity to point out every flaw in my decision making/temperament and given that I am going to lose over 30% of my sessions and sometimes twice that amount etc. there are a lot of opportunities for that.

These are just people that struggled to do the same things that I’m trying to do at the end of the day and want to make themselves feel better.

It’s OK. If this thread continues- we r going to have a lotttttt of fun quoting in 2024-26.



Thanks for the concern, Venice. Wrt poker overdosing we can’t really avoid that right? Part of the “job description”.

I’m not worried about burnout, working hard is all we know- however I am worried that I’ll just feel tempted to move on to something more lucrative/with more upward mobility/stability every time I get rest.

Hope your son feels better.

We have a sore throat and fever now as we wake up (past 3pm today) so you’re probably right.

However, there is simply no chance I am going to let people tell me I’m soft, entitled, won’t make it. We r grinding it out.

I’m confident in my play for the most part, just need to win the big ones.



inb4 the “YeAH bUT arEN’T yOU shALLow bY plAYIng wITh SYMptoms dURIng a PAndeMcic?”

Thinking about it now, that was meant to be more of a comment on the environment specifically in addition to the people.

But everyone seems to be out for themselves and the environment in the Vegas card rooms/casinos is FAR less friendly/hospitable than in the Texas card rooms.

Gross vibes and too much glitz and glamour.

The whole city seems like a massive trap.

For example, a lot of the cocktail waitresses are flirty with you, but they’re just out for tips. Wtf?

In Texas, 95%+ of the workers are just being themselves and are genuinely kind.

lol sample size though.



What can you do man. This is what I signed up for and we were, unfortunately, waiting a long time for this.

Not even at the halfway point on this trip.

This post is so completely insane to me that I obviously retract my support for RtP playing poker during a pandemic. My apologies to the rest of the thread.

I do still support my own decision to play poker during a pandemic though, regardless of whether I end up dead or not.
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11-18-2020 , 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Dream Crusher
I would say what you can do is not potentially kill someone directly by playing when you likely have covid-19, and not potentially kill many people indirectly by playing when you likely have covid-19. The fact that you will probably lose money at the tables should make this an even easier decision.
hater
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11-18-2020 , 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by RoadtoPro
We have a sore throat and fever now as we wake up (past 3pm today) so you’re probably right.

However, there is simply no chance I am going to let people tell me I’m soft, entitled, won’t make it. We r grinding it out.
"Grinding it out" when you possibly have COVID-19 does not prove to people what you think it does about being tough or making it. Aren't you going back home to your family after this trip? If potentially infecting casino patrons and employees doesn't concern you (it should) then I'd think your family's health would. Casinos are at least not publicly advertising that they're testing but there are sites around the city that do: https://www.clarkcountynv.gov/news_detail_T28_R183.php

Missing a few days or weeks of poker is completely minuscule in the grand scheme of things.
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11-18-2020 , 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by RoadtoPro
We have a sore throat and fever now as we wake up (past 3pm today) so you’re probably right.

However, there is simply no chance I am going to let people tell me I’m soft, entitled, won’t make it. We r grinding it out.
Muscle aches, fever, and sore throat are all possible symptoms of covid 19. The fact that you would continue to play poker and expose other people is absolutely wrong on your part. Get tested. Spreading disease is not cool by any measure. It won't be cool in 2024-2026 either.

You have something wrong mentally to be worried about people calling you "soft" rather than worrying about potentially spreading a very contagious and deadly disease to other unsuspecting patrons. You aren't soft, nor are you hard, you're just very selfish and dangerous. Hopefully this post finds you in time to reconsider. If not then shame on you for exposing other people.
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11-18-2020 , 09:49 PM
Hey RTP. Just wanted to chime in over some stuff I've skimmed in this thread, I like helping you because I do see a lot of myself in you. I'm someone who grinded 1/2 on the east coast, moved up to 2/5, 5/10 10/20 occasionally bigger I moved to Vegas 10 years ago and now I play 10/20 for fun. I understand I like to joke around in the chat thread but I am someone who lived this myself for a long time and grinded up to high stakes without a big tournament score or any other income.

First off - your game needs work. Some of these hands are horrendous and you are massively underprepared. You seem to keep quoting your EV and making statements as if you are running bad. You are playing horrifically bad. These are also just the hands I see that you publically post. I am sure you have some other embarassing hands that are omitted, whether consciously or subconsciously. I had a popular thread for years. I didn't post every single bad hand I played, because a lot of the time I didn't even realize it was bad.

You can lie to yourself to protect your ego (many pros and wannabe pros do this) but at the end of the day your results wont be there because you lack the ability to produce these results.

Welcome to Vegas. As I said I have been here quite a while and seen all sorts of kids, adults, addictions, problems, and hopes and dreams. You are right to assume this city is a trap. If you have any weakness it will be exploited. Your **** needs to be together to be here.

I think you have an inflated view of your own skill and what poker is based on your experiences in Cupcakeland Texas, but yes, you seem to be experiencing what Vegas is compared to the rest of the country.

People are out for themselves, the cocktail waitresses don't give a **** about you, the people at your table don't give a **** about you. You are a long way from southern hospitality in a location where games are probably significantly tougher on average than what you are used to. Vegas gambling world is incredibly cutthroat. I could litter this forum with stories of broken pros.

You also seem to really love this like, laggy image, metagame baller pro stuff?

I never understood why everyone thinks thats so cool. Do you know whats actually cool?

Money.

You arent good. Tighten your game up and try to play a very boring, solid form of poker.

I used to grind at Foxwoods for a year or so before moving to Vegas, granted poker was different back then in 2011 or whatever, but I 3bet light probably once a month. Did I care? There were regs in the game that called me nitty and would give me **** - didn't care at all.

When I was first grinding 5/10 at Wynn (an uncapped 5/10), there were a lot of regs that gave me **** for buying in for 2-3k and not 10k. I later found out a lot of these guys were staked and probably not doing great. I'd like a big price I definitely have more money than them now, and made a hell of a lot more from poker than they ever did.

Poker is a facade. These guys that you think are "ballers" and "LAG crushers" and tom dwan esque guys are largely smoke and mirrors. I can tell you with firsthand experience with a lot of players I've seen like this, they don't last. They arent good. tough to play against doesn't always mean good.

Do you know who quietly wins all the money in public live poker? The guys who are very solid nits, they value-bet thin, don't blow up and can play hours. Guys with just enough ability and strong mental fortitude. Guys you probably won't leave the table thinking "wow this dude is a ****ing beast".

I was never one to (seriously) hate nits, or give them **** or anything else because that works. These are the guys that have money, not the guys that try crazy fancy **** and blow up a few times a week for stacks. I have seen this story over and over.

My advice to you is to 1. stay the **** home if you have a fever.

NV is about to lock down and I hate it, I'm not one of these over-the-top "wear your mask" while you drive guys - but going into the world while showing signs of covid is one of the most ignorant things I've ever read on this forum. Christ man get it together.

Poker wise - you need to study, I'd recommend signing up to a training site of your choice and learning to beat 50nl online or something to refine your game.

Maybe you can get away with this stuff in Texas, but if you are being caused a bunch of stress by the Caesars 1/3 regs I'm not exactly sure how you intend on moving up to high stakes or even making a reasonable living from this game unless you just luckbox into a private game.

Maybe you can in Texas, who know, I find a lot of pros from soft locales are very bad because it's a form of Darwinism. You don't get better in soft locations because your competition is bad and you don't need to.

In Vegas you will starve if you don't fix your leaks, both on and off the table.

Just some words of advice from a grandpa like 30 year old man that's somewhat been in your shoes before.
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11-18-2020 , 10:07 PM
Strong post Rob.
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11-18-2020 , 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by RoadtoPro
We have a sore throat and fever now as we wake up (past 3pm today) so you’re probably right.

However, there is simply no chance I am going to let people tell me I’m soft, entitled, won’t make it. We r grinding it out
RtP, I've got your back friend and am strongly rooting for you/believe you have the right ethics/mindframe to make it, but this is so wrong on many levels ; I am in no way a COVID alarmist nor like to shame people - I prefer the middlle-path -, but potentially infecting and thus harming others, is sooo uncool on all levels man Not everyone is in the same group age as you are. Give it some thought. Spend a few days resting in your hotel room, grinding online, studying, reading, relaxing etc.
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11-18-2020 , 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by RoadtoPro
inb4 the “YeAH bUT arEN’T yOU shALLow bY plAYIng wITh SYMptoms dURIng a PAndeMcic?”

Thinking about it now, that was meant to be more of a comment on the environment specifically in addition to the people.

But everyone seems to be out for themselves and the environment in the Vegas card rooms/casinos is FAR less friendly/hospitable than in the Texas card rooms.

Gross vibes and too much glitz and glamour.

The whole city seems like a massive trap.

For example, a lot of the cocktail waitresses are flirty with you, but they’re just out for tips. Wtf?

In Texas, 95%+ of the workers are just being themselves and are genuinely kind.

lol sample size though.
Yeah that's true. A casino in particular is going to show some the worst sides of human nature unfortunately. It is what it is, just got to ignore it and focus only on your own goals and life situation. That's why having friends and family is important as well.
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11-19-2020 , 12:03 AM
excuse me for wanting to go to work where everyone (including myself) has a mask on at all times and there is plexiglass in between everyone and when everything (Including said plexiglass) is wiped down every hour~ as well

will play online

there goes all the trip reports/fun I never got the chance to have nevertheless

have consumed zero adult beverages on the trip

you guys were so perfect at 21 it’s enviable
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11-19-2020 , 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by RoadtoPro
excuse me for wanting to go to work where everyone (including myself) has a mask on at all times and there is plexiglass in between everyone and when everything (Including said plexiglass) is wiped down every hour~ as well
and yet you still managed to get it somewhere. dude c'mon.
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11-19-2020 , 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by RoadtoPro
excuse me for wanting to go to work where everyone (including myself) has a mask on at all times and there is plexiglass in between everyone and when everything (Including said plexiglass) is wiped down every hour~ as well

will play online

there goes all the trip reports/fun I never got the chance to have nevertheless

have consumed zero adult beverages on the trip

you guys were so perfect at 21 it’s enviable
God damn you suck ass
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11-19-2020 , 12:29 AM
Imagine thinking going to play cards tO gEt My GrInD oN in the midst of a pandemic while showing symptoms is a good idea in any way. Wtf
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11-19-2020 , 12:31 AM
99% of the people in Vegas rn are gambling recreationally and you guys should pick on them instead

there are lots of ways to do so since that makes you happy

but anyways I said I’ll play online so that should be enough with the hating
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