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11-05-2019 , 01:24 AM
I flopped two more sets tonight at 2/5 and made $1,300. Easy game.

Last edited by DumbosTrunk; 11-05-2019 at 01:32 AM.
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11-05-2019 , 01:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Leobzook
this is just ridiculous. I played 200 hours of Holdem in October and made 8 sets for the whole month
Then I recommend that you work on your set game. I think there are training sites for that.

The key is to start with a pair in your hand and then have the same card appear on the flop.

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11-05-2019 , 02:25 AM
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One regret I have from my later 2/5 session was after losing AQ v. A4o in straddle which I raised to $50, fish limp/called and flopped a 4. He showed after I mucked and I slipped, "you are running good, man, let's see how long it lasts." Oops. Super no-no, I probably should have exiled myself. But he was running incredibly good given how poorly he was playing. It was pretty tilting. Just shouldn't have said anything.


There's no excuse for saying something like that man. You aren't better or more deserving or more important than anyone else. Also, it might help if you stop referring to people as fish and instead think of them and call them fun players.

No one likes a bad loser. I believe you can do better. Good luck.

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11-05-2019 , 03:04 AM
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Originally Posted by SimpleRick


There's no excuse for saying something like that man. You aren't better or more deserving or more important than anyone else. Also, it might help if you stop referring to people as fish and instead think of them and call them fun players.

No one likes a bad loser. I believe you can do better. Good luck.
True. I normally say fun player. You know what I meant. Yeah lost my table etiquette that hand, albeit momentarily. Shoulda known better. Thanks for the reinforcement.

Last edited by DumbosTrunk; 11-05-2019 at 03:14 AM.
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11-05-2019 , 04:26 AM
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True. I normally say fun player. You know what I meant. Yeah lost my table etiquette that hand, albeit momentarily. Shoulda known better. Thanks for the reinforcement.
Like I said I believe you can do better and I believe you will. I've said and done worse I'm sure. I cringe when I think about some of it. Learning from mistakes is part of growing. If something like that bothers you it is symptomatic of some other unaddressed problem you have in your life. Bad beats happen and when you are doing everything right in your life they will just roll off your back and not even bother you. Try to think about things you can do better. Maybe you need to be putting more hours in at the table. Maybe you need to work on improving other areas of your life. Whatever it is try to figure it out and work on it. Good luck.

And good on you for being accountable with yourself here and posting about it.
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11-05-2019 , 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted by SimpleRick
Like I said I believe you can do better and I believe you will. I've said and done worse I'm sure. I cringe when I think about some of it. Learning from mistakes is part of growing. If something like that bothers you it is symptomatic of some other unaddressed problem you have in your life. Bad beats happen and when you are doing everything right in your life they will just roll off your back and not even bother you. Try to think about things you can do better. Maybe you need to be putting more hours in at the table. Maybe you need to work on improving other areas of your life. Whatever it is try to figure it out and work on it. Good luck.

And good on you for being accountable with yourself here and posting about it.
Totally agree. It wasn’t about the suck out; it was whatever else had been bothering me. I’m sure if my mental game was in good form I never would have said a word. I might have even congratulated him.
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11-05-2019 , 08:07 AM
After 2/5, some 1/3 up $90, then 5-card which was meh, got back on 2/5 list which looked much juicier than it was when I left (very deep game). Got lucky at 5-card with JJ on 9TJ, boated otr against I'm guessing a flopped straight. V potted flop and turn and I called down (AI ott). Flop call was fine, turn call was a 5% mistake against a straight. Oh well.

2/5 opened JdJh, BB defended. Flop As-Js-4h. He x/c. Turn: Kh. He c/r from $45 to $130. I call. River: 7h. He jams $250 eff. I snap, he has 34ss. Then open QQ at new table, SB calls, HU, Q-7-3r. He c/r to $75, I call. Turn: Jd. He bets $200, call. River: 3c. He $200, I rip for $325 more, he tank folds Qd face up.

Then 3! KK in SB over lag BTN iso, three ways and I hold on 9348Q runout against BTN's T9cc.

Miss an opportunity with A2hh which I overlimp otb, flop K-8-7hh, SB donks $40 into $50, CO isos $105, I just let it go otf not closing the action. Turn was the Th and SB c/r CO's turn bet. We were over $1k eff. :/

Up close to $1,600 all in all today. I think if I played my OPs a little more aggressively I could have made more. Oh, and not folding the nfd super deep. Meh.
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11-05-2019 , 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by SimpleRick


There's no excuse for saying something like that man. You aren't better or more deserving or more important than anyone else. Also, it might help if you stop referring to people as fish and instead think of them and call them fun players.

No one likes a bad loser. I believe you can do better. Good luck.
You are my hero. So few people get Hook references and it makes me sad. Such a great movie.
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11-05-2019 , 04:37 PM
Love me any movie starring Robin Williams. Except those weirdly dark ones.

"Phenomenal cosmic powers! Itty-bitty living space."

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11-05-2019 , 07:15 PM
A little jog while the sun was still out, a little home exercise, tried a mindfulness mediation video (got 2 minutes in...maybe not my thing, will take some getting use to), couple short PLO videos. Fresh coffee. Mmmm.... Getting into a good mental state for playing later.

Also, just want to let everyone know that I appreciate the constructive and encouraging posts and PMs I get from many of you. As I have said many times, playing poker full time can be an isolating slog. I need all the motivation I can get sometimes. I try to be self-motivating, but hearing positive feedback from people in the community helps a lot too. So thank you to the supporters.

This thread is intended first and foremost as a way for me to share my poker journey and my life. I do this voluntarily. I don't have to spend hours a week posting here. In return for the effort I put in, I would like to keep the purely negative (non-constructive) posts to a bare minimum. If you think I need a slap on the wrist for something, that's fine. But if your intent is simply to put down my efforts or slander me, that is not fine and I will have your post flagged.

For example, "you should not berate a rec player, you know better." Constructive. Fine.

On the other hand, posts like "your hourly is terrible for the stakes you play," "I predict you will quit poker," "everyone hates you," "you are a hit-and-runner" are harassment. Not fine. Reported to the mods. Up until now I have not reported every one of these posts because I have been lackadaisical and frankly, some days I just didn't care. I will be reporting these types of comments every time now.

Again, thank you to the supporters. You make this thread worth it. That is all. Carry on.

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11-06-2019 , 07:09 AM
2/5 I was just card dead for the most part and didn't get action with my big hands, up $60, table went cold so then a little 1/3 until I was called for 5-card where I opened 5679Thhdd and flopped 348h, lost with wrap and bdfd against Q8423cc (50/50 otf, 65/35 fav ott where I improved to top pair 9h to go along with my draws), then ran it up some chopping action player's money with other AA AI pre. Then forgot my hand and thought I flopped the nuts on 89J against same action V when I actually had QJ789 for two pair. Weirdly, I thought I had T7 "with a redraw to the Q-high straight" in my head. Wtf? Clearly not thinking straight. It was quite embarrassing when I jammed turn over V's psb, the river was a brick, and I said "nuts" and tabled my hand confidently, thinking I had T7 (which was the second nuts anyway). Action player V (who I table changed to play with - he raises every hand) had the nuts/QT with both flush and straight redraws. The reverse bumhunt was alive and well today. I certainly felt like a fish.

Ended down $450 instead of up $350, which is what I should have been hand I not made that costly mistake. This is the second such blunder in the past couple weeks for over $500, this one more than the last. Yikes. I may need to work on something, not sure what though. In both hands I was sure I had the nuts or the nut blocker when I misread either the board or forgot my hole cards. Not sure if this is something a lifestyle change will fix or if it's just me. I wasn't really consciously tilting, either. Maybe I subconsciously had it out for Vs in both hands and because I was so intent on beating them I had a momentary lapse of attention? Maybe it was getting late and I was not playing at full capacity? Maybe all these hours are catching up with me? I can't say for certain. All I know is it's a terrible feeling to think you are a good player and then let these mistakes happen. They certainly are a dose of humility, especially when they happen against the fun player.

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11-06-2019 , 01:26 PM
Lol @ the hand misread, but it happens to all of us. I have no excuses when it happens cuz I only have 2 cards to look at; pretty sure I'd misread my hand all the time if it was more.

Ggogogo!,imoG
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11-06-2019 , 02:36 PM
I read the first 20 or so pages..do u still buy in for the minimum?
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11-06-2019 , 05:30 PM
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I read the first 20 or so pages..do u still buy in for the minimum?
It depends on the game conditions. At 1/3, I never min-buy anymore, usually that means at least $300. The average 1/3 is just so soft at this point for me. I will max buy ($500) if there is a clear spot who is deep. I buy in for less ($200 or so) if there is a competent pro/reg to my immediate left who has me covered.

At 2/5, I frequently min-buy - even now - if much of the table is comprised of good regs. I don't think I have a large skill edge over many of these players, especially when they are sitting to my left. If the table is soft, however, I will buy in for at least $600 or more.

At 5/10+, I usually min-buy ($600), but there are occasional exceptions like when the $25 straddle is on or there is a maniac at the table, in which case I will buy in for $1,200+.

Thanks for reading! The next 20 pages are quite entertaining, trust me.
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11-06-2019 , 05:37 PM
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Lol @ the hand misread, but it happens to all of us. I have no excuses when it happens cuz I only have 2 cards to look at; pretty sure I'd misread my hand all the time if it was more.

Ggogogo!,imoG
Thanks! I may be overthinking all this. We all just have our "oops" moments from time to time, right?

And having two unforced errors in over 600 hours of play probably ain't that bad.
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11-06-2019 , 07:47 PM
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We all just have our "oops" moments from time to time, right?
I've misread PLO hands online because of being tired . x/f a set twice in a session earlier this year because of it.
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11-06-2019 , 10:00 PM
Do you try to avoid checking your hand to prevent giving something away? Even in hold'em I find it a good idea to re-check occasionally. I'm pretty sure that I don't do it with specific hand types in any way that really matters. The EV you *may* be giving up by re-checking seems minuscule compared to what a mis-read would do.
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11-06-2019 , 11:23 PM
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Do you try to avoid checking your hand to prevent giving something away? Even in hold'em I find it a good idea to re-check occasionally. I'm pretty sure that I don't do it with specific hand types in any way that really matters. The EV you *may* be giving up by re-checking seems minuscule compared to what a mis-read would do.
Normally I recheck and say my hand in my head right before the flop. I probably didn’t do that this time.

You kinda alluded to it but a big live read is re-checking hole cards when you flopped huge so I don’t recheck postflop.

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11-06-2019 , 11:33 PM
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I've misread PLO hands online because of being tired . x/f a set twice in a session earlier this year because of it.
Thanks for the perspective!
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11-07-2019 , 08:39 AM
Up $350 tonight, a little at 2/5 and 5-card (both games broke early), lost a little at 5/10 (game broke 30 minutes in), then finished with 1/3 for a few hours where I met this guy I've had my sights on for a while (he was sitting to my immediate right). We had a great conversation and FB'd each other. Hope it goes somewhere...! He's a total sweetheart and incredibly enough we have a lot in common outside of poker (martial arts, foreign languages, outdoors). Here's hoping!
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11-08-2019 , 07:13 AM
Up $200, most from 5-card, a little from 1/3, and a slight loss at 2/5. Very uneventful session, as expected from the results.

Got FB messaged by the new friend, a good sign. Will probably ask him out when he gets back from Vegas.
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11-08-2019 , 12:34 PM
A few sessions ago I'm playing at this table and it's HU between this semi-unkown girl and this semi-unknown guy. And things are tense, like as tense as I see them around these parts in a reg filled game where mostly people get along with each other. He says something pointed and inappropriate, and she responds with a curt "is he talking ****?", and it goes back and forth a bit like this, and everyone is just taken a little aback and we let it run out, and he ships the pot, and she goes for a walk. Someone suggests "I'm guessing you guys have some history at the table?". I make half jokingly / half expert read, "nah, they're ex's for sure!". He gives me a knowing look and says "yup, you nailed it".

Hope things go well for you (gotta meet people where you do your thing and gogogo for it, imo), but sure hope things down't turn out awkward at the table if things eventually go sideways!

Ggogogo!,imoG
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11-08-2019 , 05:05 PM
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A few sessions ago I'm playing at this table and it's HU between this semi-unkown girl and this semi-unknown guy. And things are tense, like as tense as I see them around these parts in a reg filled game where mostly people get along with each other. He says something pointed and inappropriate, and she responds with a curt "is he talking ****?", and it goes back and forth a bit like this, and everyone is just taken a little aback and we let it run out, and he ships the pot, and she goes for a walk. Someone suggests "I'm guessing you guys have some history at the table?". I make half jokingly / half expert read, "nah, they're ex's for sure!". He gives me a knowing look and says "yup, you nailed it".

Hope things go well for you (gotta meet people where you do your thing and gogogo for it, imo), but sure hope things down't turn out awkward at the table if things eventually go sideways!

Ggogogo!,imoG
Well at least he's primarily a 1/3 and tourney grinder, so we probably won't find each other at the same table too often.

So totally unrelated but last night at 2/5 this reg brought up this riddle you may or may not have heard before. I'll post it here:

"A man walks into a bar and asks the bartender for a glass of water to drink. The bartender then points a gun at the man, the man says 'thank you,' and walks out."

You're supposed to guess why all this transpired. It was interesting enough, although when I found out the answer I realized I never would have guessed it because it was such a bizarre situation.
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11-08-2019 , 06:37 PM
Ha, I like riddles but I'm stumped so far. Are we allowed to ask questions?

GcluelessriddlenoobG
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11-08-2019 , 06:43 PM
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Ha, I like riddles but I'm stumped so far. Are we allowed to ask questions?

GcluelessriddlenoobG
Yes, but trust me this one is a head-scratcher.
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