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enough equity to call? enough equity to call?

08-06-2010 , 08:27 PM
I am not sure if I have enough equity to call here. I have no Hub because the trial has expired. I have been frustrated with these damn short-stackers! No leveling please.

PokerStars Game #47807609105: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25 USD) - 2010/08/06 20:18:07 ET
Table 'Aitne III' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: BLAS_AS ($4.75 in chips)
Seat 2: shipitthx555 ($19.05 in chips)
Seat 4: Burbanella ($4.42 in chips)
Seat 5: le_bOEUfff ($15.87 in chips)
Seat 6: kai2828 ($2.15 in chips)
BLAS_AS: posts small blind $0.10
shipitthx555: posts big blind $0.25
Djovani: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to shipitthx555 [7c Ac]
Burbanella: calls $0.25
le_bOEUfff: folds
kai2828: calls $0.25
BLAS_AS: folds
shipitthx555: raises $0.75 to $1
Burbanella: calls $0.75
kai2828: folds
*** FLOP *** [3h 4s 9d]
shipitthx555: bets $2
Burbanella: raises $1.42 to $3.42 and is all-in
shipitthx555: calls $1.42
*** TURN *** [3h 4s 9d] [Ad]
*** RIVER *** [3h 4s 9d Ad] [Td]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
shipitthx555: shows [7c Ac] (a pair of Aces)
Burbanella: shows [8c 9s] (a pair of Nines)
shipitthx555 collected $8.74 from pot
08-06-2010 , 09:16 PM
Any prev history with villian? Can you edit and hide results too? gives bias views on the way hand is played.

Assuming no history villians limp-calling range here UTG is reasonably strong so you have no real business c-betting this flop as it needs to work ~45% of time maybe more (not exact) to be profitable. Villains range contains a lot of pairs maybe a set or two or overcards all of which have you beat and because of he shot stack villian may be inclined to even push with overs which have you dominated most of the time.

As played I may be inclined to fold depending on history.
08-07-2010 , 10:22 AM
Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

SB: $4.75
Hero (BB): $19.05
UTG: $4.42
CO: $15.87
BTN: $2.15

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BB with 7 A
UTG calls $0.25, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.25, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1, UTG calls $0.75, 1 fold

Flop: ($2.35) 3 4 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $2, UTG raises to $3.42 all in, Hero calls $1.42

Turn: ($9.19) A (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($9.19) T (2 players - 1 is all in)
09-04-2010 , 04:19 PM
conti bet arround 50% to make it a profitable play longterm sir
09-05-2010 , 04:50 AM
You just had an ace high though most of the chips were comitted to the pot so yes, it was a call..
09-07-2010 , 02:10 PM
Hey guys, this question can easily be answered:-)

The pot is 5.42, Hero has 1.42 to call --> Hero needs only 20.8%EQ to call here.

The range hero has at least 20.8% against is:
AsAh,AsAd,AhAd,QsQh,QsQd,QsQc,QhQd,QhQc,QdQc,JsJh, JsJd,JsJc,JhJd,JhJc,JdJc,TsTh,TsTd,TsTc,ThTd,ThTc, TdTc,9s9h,9s9c,9h9c,7s7h,7s7d,7h7d,5s5h,5s5d,5s5c, 5h5d,5h5c,5d5c,4h4d,4h4c,4d4c,3s3d,3s3c,3d3c,AsKs, AhKh,AdKd,AsQs,AhQh,AdQd,AsJs,AhJh,AdJd,AsTs,AhTh, AdTd,As9s,Ah9h,As8s,Ah8h,Ad8d,As7s,Ah7h,Ad7d,As6s, Ah6h,Ad6d,As5s,Ah5h,Ad5d,Ah4h,Ad4d,As3s,Ad3d,As2s, Ah2h,Ad2d,KsJs,KhJh,KdJd,KcJc,KsTs,KhTh,KdTd,KcTc, Ks9s,Kh9h,Kc9c,Ks5s,Kh5h,Kd5d,Kc5c,Kh4h,Kd4d,Kc4c, Ks3s,Kd3d,Kc3c,QsTs,QhTh,QdTd,QcTc,Qs9s,Qh9h,Qc9c, Qs5s,Qh5h,Qd5d,Qc5c,Qh4h,Qd4d,Qc4c,Qs3s,Qd3d,Qc3c, Js9s,Jh9h,Jc9c,Js5s,Jh5h,Jd5d,Jc5c,Jh4h,Jd4d,Jc4c, Js3s,Jd3d,Jc3c,Ts9s,Th9h,Tc9c,Td7d,Ts5s,Th5h,Td5d, Tc5c,Th4h,Td4d,Tc4c,Ts3s,Td3d,Tc3c,9s8s,9h8h,9c8c, 9s7s,9h7h,9s6s,9h6h,9c6c,9s5s,9h5h,9c5c,9h4h,9c4c, 9s3s,9c3c,9s2s,9h2h,9c2c,8s7s,8h7h,8d7d,8s5s,8h5h, 8d5d,8c5c,8h4h,8d4d,8c4c,8s3s,8d3d,8c3c,7s6s,7h6h, 7d6d,7s5s,7h5h,7d5d,7h4h,7d4d,7s3s,7d3d,6h4h,6d4d, 6c4c,6s3s,6d3d,6c3c,5h4h,5d4d,5c4c,5s3s,5d3d,5c3c, 4d3d,4c3c,4h2h,4d2d,4c2c,3s2s,3d2d,3c2c,AsKh,AsKd, AsKc,AhKs,AhKd,AhKc,AdKs,AdKh,AdKc,AsQh,AsQd,AsQc, AhQs,AhQd,AhQc,AdQs,AdQh,AdQc,AsJh,AsJd,AsJc,AhJs, AhJd,AhJc,AdJs,AdJh,AdJc,AsTh,AsTd,AsTc,AhTs,AhTd, AhTc,AdTs,AdTh,AdTc,As9h,As9c,Ah9s,Ah9c,Ad9s,Ad9h, Ad9c,As8h,As8d,As8c,Ah8s,Ah8d,Ah8c,Ad8s,Ad8h,Ad8c, As7h,As7d,Ah7s,Ah7d,Ad7s,Ad7h,As6h,As6d,As6c,Ah6s, Ah6d,Ah6c,Ad6s,Ad6h,Ad6c,As5h,As5d,As5c,Ah5s,Ah5d, Ah5c,Ad5s,Ad5h,Ad5c,As4h,As4d,As4c,Ah4d,Ah4c,Ad4h, Ad4c,As3d,As3c,Ah3s,Ah3d,Ah3c,Ad3s,Ad3c,As2h,As2d, As2c,Ah2s,Ah2d,Ah2c,Ad2s,Ad2h,Ad2c,KsJh,KsJd,KsJc, KhJs,KhJd,KhJc,KdJs,KdJh,KdJc,KcJs,KcJh,KcJd,KsTh, KsTd,KsTc,KhTs,KhTd,KhTc,KdTs,KdTh,KdTc,KcTs,KcTh, KcTd,Ks9h,Ks9c,Kh9s,Kh9c,Kd9s,Kd9h,Kd9c,Kc9s,Kc9h, Ks5h,Ks5d,Ks5c,Kh5s,Kh5d,Kh5c,Kd5s,Kd5h,Kd5c,Kc5s, Kc5h,Kc5d,Ks4h,Ks4d,Ks4c,Kh4d,Kh4c,Kd4h,Kd4c,Kc4h, Kc4d,Ks3d,Ks3c,Kh3s,Kh3d,Kh3c,Kd3s,Kd3c,Kc3s,Kc3d, QsTh,QsTd,QsTc,QhTs,QhTd,QhTc,QdTs,QdTh,QdTc,QcTs, QcTh,QcTd,Qs9h,Qs9c,Qh9s,Qh9c,Qd9s,Qd9h,Qd9c,Qc9s, Qc9h,Qs5h,Qs5d,Qs5c,Qh5s,Qh5d,Qh5c,Qd5s,Qd5h,Qd5c, Qc5s,Qc5h,Qc5d,Qs4h,Qs4d,Qs4c,Qh4d,Qh4c,Qd4h,Qd4c, Qc4h,Qc4d,Qs3d,Qs3c,Qh3s,Qh3d,Qh3c,Qd3s,Qd3c,Qc3s, Qc3d,Js9h,Js9c,Jh9s,Jh9c,Jd9s,Jd9h,Jd9c,Jc9s,Jc9h, Js5h,Js5d,Js5c,Jh5s,Jh5d,Jh5c,Jd5s,Jd5h,Jd5c,Jc5s, Jc5h,Jc5d,Js4h,Js4d,Js4c,Jh4d,Jh4c,Jd4h,Jd4c,Jc4h, Jc4d,Js3d,Js3c,Jh3s,Jh3d,Jh3c,Jd3s,Jd3c,Jc3s,Jc3d, Ts9h,Ts9c,Th9s,Th9c,Td9s,Td9h,Td9c,Tc9s,Tc9h,Ts5h, Ts5d,Ts5c,Th5s,Th5d,Th5c,Td5s,Td5h,Td5c,Tc5s,Tc5h, Tc5d,Ts4h,Ts4d,Ts4c,Th4d,Th4c,Td4h,Td4c,Tc4h,Tc4d, Ts3d,Ts3c,Th3s,Th3d,Th3c,Td3s,Td3c,Tc3s,Tc3d,9s8h, 9s8d,9s8c,9h8s,9h8d,9h8c,9c8s,9c8h,9c8d,9s7h,9s7d, 9h7s,9h7d,9c7s,9c7h,9c7d,9s6h,9s6d,9s6c,9h6s,9h6d, 9h6c,9c6s,9c6h,9c6d,9s5h,9s5d,9s5c,9h5s,9h5d,9h5c, 9c5s,9c5h,9c5d,9s4h,9s4d,9s4c,9h4d,9h4c,9c4h,9c4d, 9s3d,9s3c,9h3s,9h3d,9h3c,9c3s,9c3d,9s2h,9s2d,9s2c, 9h2s,9h2d,9h2c,9c2s,9c2h,9c2d,8s5h,8s5d,8s5c,8h5s, 8h5d,8h5c,8d5s,8d5h,8d5c,8c5s,8c5h,8c5d,8s4h,8s4d, 8s4c,8h4d,8h4c,8d4h,8d4c,8c4h,8c4d,8s3d,8s3c,8h3s, 8h3d,8h3c,8d3s,8d3c,8c3s,8c3d,7s6h,7s6d,7s6c,7h6s, 7h6d,7h6c,7d6s,7d6h,7d6c,7s5h,7s5d,7s5c,7h5s,7h5d, 7h5c,7d5s,7d5h,7d5c,7s4h,7s4d,7s4c,7h4d,7h4c,7d4h, 7d4c,7s3d,7s3c,7h3s,7h3d,7h3c,7d3s,7d3c,6s4h,6s4d, 6s4c,6h4d,6h4c,6d4h,6d4c,6c4h,6c4d,6s3d,6s3c,6h3s, 6h3d,6h3c,6d3s,6d3c,6c3s,6c3d,5s4h,5s4d,5s4c,5h4d, 5h4c,5d4h,5d4c,5c4h,5c4d,5s3d,5s3c,5h3s,5h3d,5h3c, 5d3s,5d3c,5c3s,5c3d,4h3s,4h3d,4h3c,4d3s,4d3c,4c3s, 4c3d,4h2s,4h2d,4h2c,4d2s,4d2h,4d2c,4c2s,4c2h,4c2d, 3s2h,3s2d,3s2c,3d2s,3d2h,3d2c,3c2s,3c2h,3c2d

This range is sooooo (about 50%) huge that it is more or less impossible that Villains range is too strong to have less than 20.8% EQ.

--> You have an easy call here.

Hope that helped and best regards,
Tobias

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09-08-2010 , 02:44 PM
Hey guys I just thought again about the hand. Forget my last post I was in a rush.

The pot is 5.77 after villain pushed and hero had 1.42 to call.
Thus Hero needs 19.8% EQ to make a profitable call (Maybe even more because of the rake)

Assuming Villain holds a range like
22+, A4s-A3s, K4s-K3s, Q3s, J3s, T9s, 94s+, 65s, A9o, A4o-A3o, K9o, K4o-K3o, Q9o, J9o, T9o, 98o, 65o

(which is kind of weird according to the preflop play) Hero has still just 19.4% EQ against. If his range is stronger, hero is crushed.

As the board does not offer many draws Hero should have an idea if villain is capable of pushing non made hands or strong draws. If he is never bluffing here you can fold.
On the other hand Villain seems to be quite fishy, thus I would have made the call assuming he has enough silly played hands in his range.

Flop play in general: I think you should have chosen a different bet amount on the flop. Almost Potsize is way too much in that spot as you missed the board.
I would have bet max 1/2 PS. There is no need to bet more. Either villain wants to play then he is allin anyway or he is going to fold which he will do for 1/2 PS as well. I do not think villains would fold a pair in any case.

So my line:
Bet the flop way smaller and fold to the push.

Best,
Tobias

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10-07-2010 , 09:44 PM
insta call
"So my line:
Bet the flop way smaller and fold to the push."
10-09-2010 , 08:21 PM
for the love of god, dont raise preflop.
10-10-2010 , 04:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt Probability
for the love of god, dont raise preflop.
Yes, you are out of position! Don't expect them to fold for 0.75$ more in this situation.
10-13-2010 , 05:53 AM
However, Hero should have an okish Equity against the limpers range. Furthermore I have seen many Fish Shortstackers to even Limp/Fold frequently thus the deadmoney to be taken is considerable
10-21-2010 , 12:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sharkly
Yes, you are out of position! Don't expect them to fold for 0.75$ more in this situation.
Ditto!
10-22-2010 , 12:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sharkly
Yes, you are out of position! Don't expect them to fold for 0.75$ more in this situation.

this

pretty bad move in that spot with a weak ace against utg and one behind

      
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